>>39184236>here's why zmoves don't workyou never said anything about why they wouldn't work
not one word
>uuhh make it strong enoughyes: you do know how z-move damage scales, do you not?
>uhhh so whatnice response champ, glad to see you have nothing to say
>here's why defog doesn't work>uhhh not everyone uses that! here's what you actually typed, because you're too gassed up to accurately assess your own arguments:
>here's why Defog sometimes won't work---therefore, it's worthless for this purposeyou can make any case about why this or that strategy sometimes won't work---that's not a complete refutation of how good that strategy is or isn't
and you also conveniently left out my other point that it actually does apply "pressure" in the sense of motivating the opponent to do something else than continue spamming the evasion move
>Also, taunt loses to a faster tauntyeah, but now you're gonna assume the opponent always has the faster taunt?
did you even go to college? where did you learn to debate?
>Your responses are only convincing me you have absolutely minimal battle experienceand your responses are convincing me you can only think within a narrow framework and refuse step outside of it, so much so that you'll resort to underhanded tactics to try to get the upperhand
>EVEN IF A FUCKING MEGA LUCARIO COULD USE A Z MOVE ON A MUK WITHOUT ANY DEFENSE INVESTMENT, THE MUK STILL LIVES WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN IF IT'S STRONG ENOUGH?Muk resists Fighting type
Glad to see you're retardededly disingenuous
Of course you're not gonna faint something that resists you in one hit without a Mega-Heracross tier base attack
you got anything else to waste my time with, kid?