>>42580541Did you honestly get the impression I was using any of these fucking trashpiles? I thought it'd be pretty obvious that I don't use any of the unovabortion pokemon. However I think you're missing or ignoring my point. The "just don't use them" argument fails to address that they're still exceedingly better than everything else.
Just because you can choose not to use them doesn't change the fact that they're still objectively superior to all other pokemon before and after them that try to do what they do. My issue isn't that they're overpowered, it's that they overshadow everything else because of that. It just seems blatantly unfair to all the other pokemon that they can't hope to compete.
>>42580969>ur just mad ur bros aren't good1: This doesn't invalidate my point that the vast majority of unova pokemon are superior to every other alternative
2: I'm well aware some gen 5 pokemon just aren't that good (like the monkeys), but Gen 5 has an extremely large amount of pokemon who were either ridiculously powerful when first introduced or got to that point over time
3: My bro is fucking Clefable. I think it's safe to say my bro is very fucking good. But Clefable doesn't overshadow every other mono-fairy type in the game just by existing. Slurpuff is a very good belly drum user. Alcremie is a fantastic set up sweeper with a g-max that acts like an extra powerful draining kiss. In fact, most people these days use Sylveon over Clefable and the two are relatively on-par with each other in gen 8. While Clefable is definately strong, it's mere existence doesn't overshadow everything else. That's the issue I have with most gen 5 pokemon.
Also, just because I don't use them doesn't mean others won't. I'd just like to see some fucking variety.
For the guy who likes Machamp though, you have world class taste. Machamp is fucking AWESOME, and part of why I hate Conk is because it's literally just Machamp with a worse design and a better stat-line.