>>39671393>I think the easiest way to get to a person like that would be through fear or despairAnime and Manga Giovanni has kind of demonstrated hes beyond both. Breaking his limbs would immobilize him sure but I think he'd be the kind of person who would then shout at you to just kill him or he'd wait for the gangrene to set in just to spite you. Kidnapping his son might work as Giovanni seems not so far gone as to be Keyser Söze but he'd still never love you or be loyal, a person like that would bide their time waiting for a moment to get revenge. Think Count of Monte Cristo, 13 years acting broken until a moment of opportunity he kills his guard and the warden and escapes. Seduction is a far better tool then fear, pain or mind control. One produces a puppet with no mind of their own or something that with every fiber of its being wants to kill you, the other produces a loyal slave who doesn't even know they are one until they're in too deep and you did it through playing off their base desires not their fears.