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Anonymous Mon 20 Oct 2025 03:08:46 No.58457567 View View Report

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>>58457499
People aren't finished enough for it to be general discussion.
Youtubers and Streamers in the like obviously beat the game two days ago by doing multiple 10 hour streams, but unless you rushing it, you're looking at a ~30 hour playthrough if you only do a handful of sidequests, and try to catch certain pokemon or do any sort of side activities between main quests.
My guess is most players will be finishing the game early this week, and by the end of the week discussion of the ending will be more normalized.
It doesn't help that its like, not THAT exciting in the grand scheme of things, like I feel like this games story was a lot more of a standalone slice of life type thing than a true "Pokemon Z" people kinda wanted it to be. Zygarde is in an awkward place since they can't retcon the Anime / SM stuff where they retooled whatever old concepts they had for him into something thats a bit out of the norm for the game series (it really does feel more in line with the anime), so this feels moreso like its building on the kinda whatever Zygarde stuff we got already instead of re-inventing Zygarde to perhaps what people hoped he'd be after finding him in that cave in XY.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 20:47:28 No.58455156 View View Report

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WHERE'S MY POKEMON Z, XY REMAKES, XY 2, XY 3, AND LEGENDS KALOS 2.
I NEED THEM NOW.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 20:22:55 No.58454949 View View Report

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Now that this bitch got its game, can it (and "Z" themes) finally stop being shoehorned into every mainline title after XY?

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 16:20:06 No.58453008 View View Report

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>>58452906
It's hit or miss but honestly so was Sugimori's art near the end of his tenure as the lead artist. By XY his shit was a shadow o what it used to be, too many basic shapes and was an inferior take on Ohmura's style. Personally this design isn't anywhere near as good as the Z-A generic >>58450737 because it just looks like basic shapes and stencils to me

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 11:20:19 No.58451506 View View Report

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I don't really agree with him. Those things don't help, sure. But think about why people liked the previous Legends.. different time period, vast wilderness, dangerous feeling pokemon, rideable pokemon etc.. Z-A feels like a total 180 being confined to just a city and switching the focus to battles when they were more scarce in PLA.
Z-A also has people believe that because it came after a gap year abd seemingly had an extra year in the oven that it would be kino which clearly isn't the case.
Its also the "Z" version people wanted all these years yet doesn't include most of the region and ignores 95% of the XY cast.
There was a lot riding on this game as a PLA and XY follow up and the end result is simply underwhelming.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Oct 2025 06:50:24 No.58450541 View View Report

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>>58450527
Assuming one card of the same rarity? If I had Oak? I'd do it for Looker, Barry, or Hau. Would also do it for Emma (either XY or Z-A version), Flannery (RSE/BW2 only, fuck her ORAS redesign), or Kukui when/if they get added

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Anonymous Sat 18 Oct 2025 23:28:50 No.58447928 View View Report

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>>58447888
Cheren and Bianca are better in B2W2 than as rivals, Hugh was just an objectively bad rival in general. He was a piss poor attempt to replicate Silver and set the stage for a lot of future rivals feeling too distant from the player to really be enjoyable

if Z-A did anything right it does the friend group much better than XY or even SV. I never got the feeling the SV cast were friends, they just seemed like a Discord server that hung out with the admin but not each other. Ain't no fucking way Nemona and Penny would hang out without Protag-kun

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Anonymous Sat 18 Oct 2025 15:30:14 No.58444490 View View Report

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>>58444483
The funniest shit is I was hoping for a little blonde Marie Antoinette ojousama back when Z-A was announced to make up for the lack of really classic anime French-feeling characters in XY and I ended up getting one anyway. She's just black

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Anonymous Sat 18 Oct 2025 11:39:44 No.58443201 View View Report

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1. SwSh
2. Z-A
3. XY
4. SM/USUM
5. BDSP/PLA
6. Cow Dung
7000. Scarlet/Violet

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Anonymous Sat 18 Oct 2025 10:27:39 No.58442927 View View Report

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>>58436595
>there are no abilities.
But each species has an ability set in their base stats anyway.
It's their base form's.
Sure, they're more than likely going to be updated once they're included in a proper mainline game, but the Z-A data that comes from Game Freak directly is there to use as a form of validation anyway.

>inb4 "eww! adding the new megas with temporary abilities is so lame!"
Game Freak themselves changed species abilities starting with XY or ORAS iirc.
Zapdos lost Lightning Rod in favor of Static, Gengar's Levitate was replaced with Cursed Body and so on.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Oct 2025 09:57:43 No.58442846 View View Report

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It's still XY but Z-A is unironically second place

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Anonymous Fri 17 Oct 2025 08:20:42 No.58434591 View View Report

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>>58434563
They were more 50/50 than XY though they're mostly better than Z-A. Beedrill, Steelix, Sceptile, Camerupt and Lopunny were good but Slowbro, Sharpedo, Salamence and Audino suck dick

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Anonymous Fri 17 Oct 2025 07:45:38 No.58434437 View View Report

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>>58434413
>ORAS
Remake.

>LA
Basically the actual remake, GF didn't want to remake DP and outsourced it while they worked in their actual remake, with another villain who wants to remake the universe, Dialga/Palkia fucking up the timespace, Giratina appearing at the end, etc. Z-A isn't like that, it's not a reimagination of XY, it's a straight up different story. Xerneas and Yveltal will get something when XY gets remade

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Anonymous Fri 17 Oct 2025 02:06:24 No.58432720 View View Report

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>>58432583
>>Honestly, I don’t know what they were considering, but the mob trainer designs in XY and ORAS were so good that the rubbish designs of recent mob trainers are unbearable to look at, so I don’t feel the slightest bit motivated to bother battling them
>even japan loves gen 6
REVISIONISTS WILL NEVER RECOVER
GEN 6 WAS FUN AND PEOPLE LIKED IT
WHEN WERE 8 YEAR OLDS OF 2013 BORN? 2005?
PEOPLE BORN AFTER 2005 WILL NEVER ENJOY A COMPETENTLY CONNECTED REGION AGAIN
2CH BRETHREN IF YOU READ THIS I AWAIT THE DAY THE GAMES ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO BRING US ALL BACK TOGETHER SO WE CAN DO WONDER TRADE EVENTS AGAIN
FUCK THE INTERNATIONAL BRANCH OF TPC
FUCK OHMORI'S FAMILY TRAUMA HE DUMPS ONTO EVERY GAME
FUCK THE NEW HUMAN ARTSTYLE
FUCK THE NEW POKEMON ARTSTYLE
FUCK THE GALAR TREE
FUCK LACKLUSTER DLC
FUCK THE Z-A RECTANGLES WITH FLAT WINDOW TEXTURES ON THEM
FUCK ROTOM COMPANIONS
FUCK ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY OF LEGENDS WHEN HGSS DISTRIBUTED THE BEASTS ONLINE JUST FINE
FUCK COMING TO A COMPLETE STOP TO PIVOT AND BEGIN RUNNING 0 TO 100 FULL SPEED AGAIN
FUCK THE SOUL IN THE ONE NAMED HAU.FINDING A NEW VESSEL NAMED HOP AND REUSING ANIMATIONS
FUCK FIGHTING BUILDINGS
FUCK NOT ACTUALLY FIGHTING BUILDINGS AND FIGHTING 2 FLOWERS
FUCK MODERN POKEMON!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous Fri 17 Oct 2025 00:47:58 No.58432232 View View Report

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>>58432202
>XY characters were flops so they can't even be in an XY sequel
>But to remain consistent with the world building, all of the Z-A characters must be flops too

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Anonymous Fri 17 Oct 2025 00:36:52 No.58432158 View View Report

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Humiliation Ritual game

All XY characters were bad so they decided not even to try to make them good. The new Z-A characters are Kalosians, so they also had to be bad. It's all a part of Jacinthe's plan to appeal to her humiliation kink. She even threw Leon under the bus just for fun

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Anonymous Fri 17 Oct 2025 00:26:48 No.58432089 View View Report

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>>58431040
Disregarding the fact there's like no source for the remake claim, what would they even actually do for remakes to fix the problems base XY have? They should've been implemented here because this was a sequel. The base games would need to be completely reimagined to fix how empty the worldbuilding was, and even then that's not what people wanted from Z-A. They wanted to see how the characters evolved and could be explored based on what XY offered. What's the point of Z-A in this instance if we're just going to be waiting for "XY the good edition" by 2030?

Nothing was fucking accomplished with these games. Has ANY Pokemon game felt this pointless before?

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2025 23:34:18 No.58431683 View View Report

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I'm kind of done with the game and I have to say it is kusoge. The city is pathetically small, horrendously lacking in things to do, and the battle system is beyond repetitive and utterly lacking in depth. I played more dynamic MMOs when I was still in high school. It's like Xenoblade for retards except even retards would find it retarded and bad.
I really really feel sorry for any XYfag who had any hopes or expectations for this game and thought and hoped this game would redeem XY and give Kalos respect.
I wouldn't call it an humiliation ritual per-se, but there's such a distinct lack of care even for nu-Pokemon standards here...
First no Z, then Ash losing the Kalos League, and now this as its "sequel". What a tragic cursed region.
This franchise desperately needs to leave Europe and go back to Japan. Europe has brought nothing but mediocrity and misfortune to Pokemon.

As for the boys, I'd say Lysandrefags and Corbeaufags won. Everyone else was kind of just there at best and was utterly annoying at worst. None of the girls stood out to me either. Extremely weak waifu game. Crazy, since that was like one of the few things GF could still half-do properly.

Thank you for listening to my blog.
>>58430069
>Corbeau stares up at the wide, blue sky. "I wish that Lysandre were here to see this. See me making Lumiose a little safer."
>"He would be proud of you, sir."
Thanks for the giggle. Really needed it today.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2025 18:57:23 No.58429468 View View Report

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>>58429407
cant move Koraidon out of the game, not the other murder machine, is very upsetting, who came up with this stupid shit? I did buy the DLC for this one at a cheaper price from CDKeys, Kitakami as a region despite being smaller feels more complete than Paldea who had nothing of Spain and Portugal to its name. love Carmine, love Kieran, love Ogerpon. Blueberry is pretty much fantastic in every regard. Area Zero if not for their incompetence would have looked incredible, it had an amazing feeling the first time I went there through the story but in repeat visits its very lackluster. 8/10.
>Legends Z-A
Despite the flat buildings and some ugly parts here and there, pure unfiltered soul. It nearly redeems Pokemon XY as a whole. Zygarde was always one of my favorite legends and seeing it get a redemption this big after 10 years is nothing short of satisfying. Gameplay is fun, the online however is putrid garbage. You pretty much are playing a game of tag, once youre hit everyone will just run away constantly from your attacks and refuse to play the damn game. Frustrating. I like the mega fights, very well designed. Game feels challenging probably due to the nature of the gameplay. Probably in the minority but I like these mega designs for the most part, there's a lack of Pokemon in this game as in, the amount of them, but then again everyone is gonna pick Pokemon with megas in the mega game and im fine with that myself. 8/10

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2025 14:15:19 No.58427327 View View Report

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>>58426724
Wait a sec.
>AZ built what is basically a second ultimate weapon at Prism tower 2000 years ago called Anges
>the first Ultimate Weapon was built 3000 years ago, subsequently after Floette's death.
First off, does PLZA really state 2000 and not 3000 years? If so, why would Az had the need to build another Ultimate Weapon 1000 years later, when he supposedly changed his mind after the carnage of the first UW (given how he talks about it in XY and Z-A)? Something doesn't add up or he's didn't change at all, only put on a mask to trick others to go easy on him.

>Jett for having being told by AZ the truth of Prism Tower
How am I supposed to imagine Az "suddenly" remembering there's the potential threat of another ultimate weapon?
>This Ultimate Weapon is of my design. I am deeply sorry for having caused so much suffering. Please forgive me."
>...
>...
>...
>...
>...
>(5 years later)
>...
>...
>...
>...
>...
>"By the way, I built another one."

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2025 13:54:58 No.58427208 View View Report

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>>58426874
Because Z-A is set 5 years after XY.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2025 13:05:13 No.58426922 View View Report

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>>58426886
No, it's not. There's no gym challenge, no League fuck all returning characters of note, but a post-game NPC the majority of people didn't know existed (picrel), the deuteragonist of the thing and the antagonist team in varying stages of fail (from the house-arrested Professor to the wandering hoboes). New characters, new storyline, following on clearly from the events of XY, but not actually intended to be what you wanted. Not "Z", not "XY2" and that's why you babby bastards are pissing and shitting yourselves in disbelief over (newsflash, L: A was as it was because it was intended to be an entire break from the modern era, only to pul right back on that and TIE it to the modern era. L: Z-A was intended to follow on from XY but not actually give a shit about the nuts'n'bolts of XY, Japanese are Francophiles, figures they wanted to piss about in PokéFrance AGAIN while adding new gimmick forms).

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Anonymous Thu 16 Oct 2025 06:21:25 No.58424892 View View Report

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This kiss single-handedly prevented the XY Protags from appearing in Legends Z-A.
Prove me wrong somehow. And yes, I will REFUSE to elaborate.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Oct 2025 21:59:46 No.58421505 View View Report

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>>58421446
>>58421480
L: Z-A confirms BOTH versions are canon kids. There's ex-Flare members who mention catching both Xerneas and Yvetal during their plans and actions back in XY (the other legendary being off-screen when shit goes down with the box legend). Is it a bit of a cop-out? Yes, especially when they clearly write one story then fit the version differences into the other.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Oct 2025 20:46:41 No.58420912 View View Report

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These aren't XY these are ZA, so the new ones will probably be Z shaped

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