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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:01:51 No.13733352 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13733568 >>13733591 >>13733614 >>13733665 >>13734273 >>13734469 >>13734872 >>13735625 >>13736036 >>13736359

How does your bro fare competitively?

Mine's technically OU but really not very good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:05:35 No.13733395 Report

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It's a shit but I don't care.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:08:58 No.13733432 Report

Quoted By: >>13733834 >>13734491 >>13736275

solid uu sweeper, but is weak to some of the most common types in competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:09:44 No.13733441 Report

Quoted By: >>13733451 >>13733614

I wish there were third stage eeveelutions, just to make them more viable
Even just some stat redistributions and movepool tweaks instead of being outright more powerful would be neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:10:37 No.13733451 Report

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>>13733441
Mega eeveelutions?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:11:52 No.13733467 Report

Quoted By: >>13733849 >>13736722

Mines NU
but that does not matter for our love has no bounds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:13:25 No.13733484 Report

Quoted By: >>13733524

RU and sometimes UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:14:13 No.13733496 Report

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>Weavile
Pretty good. I tend to not use him competitively because he is a bit of a glass cannon.
>Blaziken
top op pls ban no re
>Flygon
never used it in the meta so idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:14:58 No.13733504 Report

Quoted By: >>13733529 >>13733544

I don't battle seriously so what would Charmander be? Never used I am assuming.

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coopie !66666666S. Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:15:43 No.13733512 Report

Quoted By: >>13733606

It's shit.

Most of my other personal favorites do pretty good though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:15:51 No.13733515 Report

Quoted By: >>13736275

It's RU, but it's seen some use in UU. I've personally had some decent results using it against OU teams at times.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:16:25 No.13733524 Report

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>>13733484
forgot pic. Also forgot to mention that is is a very good lead for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:16:34 No.13733529 Report

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>>13733504
Do you mean Charmander or Charizard?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:17:10 No.13733538 Report

Quoted By: >>13733561

Suck it, plebs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:17:27 No.13733544 Report

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>>13733504
Just about any first form evolving Pokemon is little cup, it's own tier.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:17:36 No.13733546 Report

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With the Mega Evo it will be a lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:18:56 No.13733559 Report

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>>13733529
Charmander. I don't know why but I really like him at the start of the game more then compare to any other starter I had.

>>13733544
That make sense I guess. Thanks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:19:13 No.13733561 Report

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>>13733538
>gengar
>calling other people plebs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:19:14 No.13733562 Report

Quoted By: >>13736275

With a bit of setup, can do decent in OU. Setupless, he's even higher-tier bro in doubles though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:19:31 No.13733568 Report

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>>13733352
A monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:19:37 No.13733569 Report

Quoted By: >>13734448

Feraligatr.
Dude is in RU since no one uses him but he can still wreck shit in UU and even in OU when rain is set up.
If he ever gets Sheer Force he'll be top UU and will be more than just a niche poke in OU.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:19:58 No.13733579 Report

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Meh, probably not too great.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:20:45 No.13733589 Report

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NU 4 lyfe

Oh well I just wish it wasn't such a slow shit and had a better ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:20:55 No.13733591 Report

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>>13733352
>not very good
hey man, screw you Espeon is great

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:21:35 No.13733604 Report

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A common UU Pokemon, works well as a late-game Moxie sweeper or a Guts powerhouse. Two excellent STAB moves and access to EdgeQuake. Pretty good overall, I use one on my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:21:52 No.13733606 Report

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>>13733512
>filename
>it's shit

>Getaloadofthisguycam.anyimageformat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:22:20 No.13733614 Report

Quoted By: >>13733657 >>13736623

>>13733352
>>13733395
>>13733441
If there's one thing I loved about Pokemon Conquest, it's that Leafeon was bretty gud
Why aren't they making a sequel yet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:22:23 No.13733616 Report

Quoted By: >>13734309

He does fine once he gets a Harden or two off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:23:12 No.13733630 Report

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Metagross= OU
however a lot of bros are NU (Torterra, Vespiquen, Golduck etc...)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:23:41 No.13733638 Report

Quoted By: >>13736275

All-round solid, although his lack of good recovery hampers his staying power somewhat. Still, can usually be expected to tank strong hits and then usually have just enough power to strike back hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:24:38 No.13733657 Report

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>>13733614
I need to get that game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:25:02 No.13733665 Report

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>>13733352

RU, He's a giant fucking steel snake, what's not to like?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:25:30 No.13733675 Report

Quoted By: >>13734401

He's OU for the time being.

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coopie !66666666S. Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:27:07 No.13733702 Report

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>>13733606
Huh?

It's pretty terrible competitively.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:27:20 No.13733708 Report

Quoted By: >>13733727 >>13733730 >>13733894 >>13733919

Simply the best in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:28:12 No.13733720 Report

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Scrafty. UU, used to be OU, pretty decent in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:28:32 No.13733727 Report

Quoted By: >>13733773

>>13733708

>the best
>inb4 ice fang/ice punch/ice beam/ice shard/etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:28:37 No.13733730 Report

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>>13733708
THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:28:40 No.13733732 Report

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>>13733702

It's honestly not THAT bad. Slap Sucker Punch on there and give him Swords Dance and he can kill some things.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:29:22 No.13733739 Report

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Hampered by no recovery, but he's still solid and amazing on Trick Room teams.

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coopie !66666666S. Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:31:00 No.13733758 Report

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>>13733732
Maybe in RU, but it really isn't great even there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:32:08 No.13733773 Report

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>>13733727
>implying you can ever touch Gliscor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:33:25 No.13733783 Report

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can work in OU if you scout properly and build a team around it. 90% accuracy HJK always finds a way to miss at the most inopportune times... but I think that's part of the fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:35:02 No.13733806 Report

Quoted By: >>13733840

>>13733773

my stoutland would shit on your gliscor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:35:59 No.13733834 Report

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>>13733432
Arcanine is glorious. E-Speed late game is god tier

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:36:33 No.13733840 Report

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>>13733806

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:36:51 No.13733847 Report

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Solid UU bro, I always try to use it in OU but it's sadly outclassed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:36:56 No.13733849 Report

Quoted By: >>13736722

>>13733467
Hey, maybe the Psychic/Fairy type combo will be enough to bump Gardevoir up a tier or two.But you are right, ultimately it doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:37:33 No.13733859 Report

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>Heracross
Dominant in UU, passable in OU. I don't use him on my team though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:40:44 No.13733894 Report

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>>13733708
>Faggot used Ice Beam!

Sneak's Ghost !Fp/9BMagic

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Sneak's Ghost !Fp/9BMagic Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:42:06 No.13733919 Report

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>>13733708
Aww year.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:43:14 No.13733941 Report

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>tfw outclassed in NU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:44:52 No.13733965 Report

Quoted By: >>13733991 >>13735427 >>13736275

It used to be nothing to write home about, but now? Damn it feels good to be a Pranksta.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:45:54 No.13733983 Report

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Just about the only thing able to keep the Ice type viable as a Mono after snow cloak

Otherwise he has a fairly simple gameplan in the tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:46:38 No.13733991 Report

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>>13733965
Oh, forgot to mention how I wish it did have an evolution since it could do wondrous things with Eviolite, but Leftovers works well enough.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:58:19 No.13734134 Report

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He is the most OU of OU, and yet I have nothing more than a sort of intellectual curiosity about competitive. He's just the shiny red giant insect that 8 year old me fell in love with 'cause he looked cool.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 21:59:39 No.13734152 Report

Quoted By: >>13734664 >>13736275

Dat bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:09:05 No.13734273 Report

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>>13733352
>Shuckle

The greatest most powerful I ever saw

>Rotom
>Cubone
>Vulpix
A shi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:12:27 No.13734309 Report

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>>13733616
So do I, ask ur mum XDXDXD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:13:28 No.13734321 Report

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...Heh. I don't think he's even used that much in NU.

Depressed Jesus Freak !!xS/gdrjiI77

Depressed Jesus Freak !!xS/gdrjiI77 Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:14:51 No.13734338 Report

Quoted By: >>13734385

Blaziken is pretty good. Not great, but well above average.

>crazy people. not likin' Blaziken
>as if a fistfighting fire-chicken isn't fucking awesome

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:15:29 No.13734354 Report

Quoted By: >>13734375 >>13734431

What do you think?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:16:18 No.13734366 Report

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I forget if he is RU or NU but he has a few setups that are fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:17:00 No.13734375 Report

Quoted By: >>13734383

>>13734354
>3 red and tapping just to deal 1 damage
Flareonesque

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:17:36 No.13734380 Report

Quoted By: >>13736275

Ferrothorn, great in-game and competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:17:51 No.13734383 Report

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>>13734375

and its to creatures only to boot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:17:54 No.13734385 Report

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>>13734338
you're stupid and new

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:18:52 No.13734400 Report

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In my experience? This fluffy fuck will annihilate anything that crosses it.

Tier-wise? NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:18:53 No.13734401 Report

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>>13733675
He'll be OU for a while now that hyperoffensestatuponeverything is a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:21:48 No.13734431 Report

Quoted By: >>13734535

>>13734354
It can do some damage in NU if you slap facade and a toxic orb on it Incidently its also my bro

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:22:49 No.13734448 Report

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Really good in OU, it's not unusual to beat 2~3pokémons with him thanks to trick room.
(And quite unrelated, it's when I looked up who are the psychic type pokémons who are more used than him, that I have noticed there are a lot a legendaries who are psychic.)

>>13733569
>Feraligatr.
I'm using one in a OU funteam, with full HP a custap berry. The custap berry can really catch the opponent offguard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:24:22 No.13734469 Report

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>>13733352
stronk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:25:48 No.13734491 Report

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>>13733432
My nigga

My other bro Linoone is NU but he can wreck some serious shit with belly drum so it's fine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:26:58 No.13734507 Report

Quoted By: >>13735445 >>13736275

RU, and I'm fairly certain I'm the only one that uses him.

Still, 91% accurate Thunder is a bitch to deal with.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:27:17 No.13734511 Report

Quoted By: >>13734635 >>13734801 >>13736275

Why isnt he OU? Never misses the dynamic punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:28:59 No.13734535 Report

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>>13734431

anything can do some damage in NU

it doesn't get stab from facade unlike most guts users, it doesn't have speed or coverage either like just about anyone else with facade

its defense are shit, flareon is shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:31:46 No.13734561 Report

Quoted By: >>13734608

I think it's doing just fine in competitive play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:33:58 No.13734588 Report

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Victreebel

NU, but can be used successfully in any tier all the way up to Ubers.

It just needs to be sunny.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:35:14 No.13734608 Report

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>>13734561
Yeah, he's got enough moxie to keep himself there for a while.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:36:55 No.13734629 Report

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Not bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:37:30 No.13734635 Report

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>>13734511
Conkledurr looks like a giant throbbing penis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:39:52 No.13734664 Report

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>>13734152
Moar

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:44:36 No.13734740 Report

Quoted By: >>13734897 >>13734969 >>13735432

Remember when he was OU?
Remember when he and Infernape were the best starters?
I do.
Now he's only decent.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:45:35 No.13734756 Report

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After a wait of 15 years...

SOON

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:48:14 No.13734801 Report

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>>13734511
because muh stats.
people try to optimize their sweepers too much because they think it'll net them more KO's

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!BLaZerPcEw Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:51:49 No.13734864 Report

Quoted By: >>13734983

pretty good when against rain.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:52:01 No.13734872 Report

Quoted By: >>13735451

>>13733352
There is nothing more satisfying then leading with Crustle and when people think they're safe, and you're just setting up Stealth Rocks, when instead you Shell Smash and proceed to sweep their entire team.

X-Scissor, Earthquake, and Rock Blast is PERFECT NEUTRAL COVERAGE on EVERY pokemon currently available.

Bonus points for carrying a Lum berry and feeling the pure desperation from some poor fool who thinks he can save himself by statusing you.

You cannot rustle the Crustle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:52:52 No.13734897 Report

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>>13734740
>implying he's decent

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:53:46 No.13734909 Report

Quoted By: >>13736275

Still going strong, after all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:54:25 No.13734923 Report

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Still quite well, from what I understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:56:54 No.13734969 Report

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>>13734740
Could be worse

At least he's not Typhlosion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 22:57:29 No.13734983 Report

Quoted By: >>13736347

>>13734864
Pretty good? Starmie is one of the handful of pokemon that has remained consistently awesome through every single generation.

Speaking of which, my bro Gengar also shares this honor.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:00:04 No.13735026 Report

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he pwns all nerds #yolo #swag #420

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:00:06 No.13735027 Report

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good lategame cleaner, can set up and sweep relatively easy, but has some major flaws especially when dealing with priority

still a key element of just about every team i build, he holds his own so i can't complain too much

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:00:56 No.13735046 Report

Quoted By: >>13735101 >>13735465

My first true bro as well as my first level 100.

Somehow I managed to pick the quite literal best Pokemon in Kanto (going by total BST at least) without knowing the damnedest thing about stats.

9 year old me had great taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:04:11 No.13735101 Report

Quoted By: >>13735235

>>13735046
Well, technically, Mewtwo would be the best Pokemon in Kanto based on BST, but I have to agree, Dragonite is a damn good Pokemon both competitively speaking.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:04:13 No.13735103 Report

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it hurts knowing I will never use it in OU again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:04:29 No.13735107 Report

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It's in RU but it fucks OU (and even Uber) hard, especially Volcarona which is pretty ironic considering it's weak to both of its STABs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:10:30 No.13735233 Report

Quoted By: >>13735294 >>13736651

>Should we put Electivire in E-Rank? It's seriously garbage; it cannot KO anything, not to mention from my experience Munchlax is more useful than it. I feel it should be E-Rank.

>With all my arguments aside, I'd like to propose putting E-Vire in E-Rank. E-Vire is really fucking awful-it can't even OHKO Roselia with Ice Punch! E-Vire simply cannot hit hard enough-its attacks are way too weak to use its offensive stats well. The standard mixed set is incredibly subpar-Tangrowth barely survives its Flamethrower, and Steelix can just smash it with EQ. Sandslash can too. And Slowking can survive its Wild Charge. That's pretty bad. Its physical set is also mediocre as hell and fails to accomplish anything. Tangrowth and Steelix laugh at how weak E-Vire is all day long. It's weak attacks cannot OHKO shit at all, and it has low defenses. Also, Motor Drive is a highly impractical gimmick that is too situational to work.

>

Electivire is the best example of a great concept gone horribly wrong. Think about it: a mixed attacker that could take advantage of one of the more common and crucial attacking types in the game to sweep most teams! Unfortunately, in the end it failed when people realized that "It's super effective!" doesn't translate directly into a KO. Maybe if Electivire had better Special Attack to use its stronger STAB, or if it was a little less frail, it would be useful. Until then, it'll just remain as "that thing that noobs pair up with Gyarados."

Guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:10:38 No.13735235 Report

Quoted By: >>13735249

>>13735101

Oh fuck, I was thinking about the pseudo-legendary tier and entirely forgot about the Kanto legendaries' stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:11:54 No.13735249 Report

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>>13735235
Oh, well in that case, you're entirely correct.

And his Dream World ability is just icing on the cake.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:13:48 No.13735289 Report

Quoted By: >>13735309

OH YOU KNOW ME JUST CHILLIN' IN NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:14:00 No.13735294 Report

Quoted By: >>13735581

>>13735233
Literally all it needs is a better STAB move than Wild Charge and Agility to ascend it to UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:14:43 No.13735309 Report

Quoted By:

>>13735289
>NU
You mean uber?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:16:36 No.13735336 Report

Quoted By: >>13735355

5/5 bretty gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:17:45 No.13735355 Report

Quoted By: >>13736965

>>13735336
That's Ethan not Jimmy

Jimmy looks waaay different and probably doesn't exist in Ash's anime.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:18:57 No.13735370 Report

Quoted By:

Just the best OU in the game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:23:15 No.13735427 Report

Quoted By:

>>13733965
>That bottom left image
I saw that years ago and it freaked me out
PANIC

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:23:32 No.13735432 Report

Quoted By:

>>13734740
in RSEFRLG metagame, swampert was arguably the best pokemon in the game.

In the short lived RSE metagame (it was shit) he WAS the best in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:24:37 No.13735445 Report

Quoted By:

>>13734507
ive seen him wreck shit in showderp with subdisable STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:24:50 No.13735451 Report

Quoted By: >>13735473

>>13734872
would be decent if scizor wasnt a thing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:25:12 No.13735456 Report

Quoted By:

It's a one-trick pony, but still pretty powerful.

inb4 MLP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:26:13 No.13735465 Report

Quoted By: >>13735535

>>13735046
dragonite was shit in RBY
dragonite wasnt good until BW really

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:26:39 No.13735473 Report

Quoted By: >>13735525

>>13735451
A lot of things would be better off if Scizor wasn't a thing.

But Crustle is more than content to be the reigning king of UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:28:39 No.13735525 Report

Quoted By: >>13735552

>>13735473
I play a lot of UU and never seen a crustle that was even a problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:29:32 No.13735535 Report

Quoted By: >>13736340

>>13735465
>OU
>BL
>BL
>OU
>OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:31:09 No.13735552 Report

Quoted By:

>>13735525
That's a shame. You should try it out for yourself.
I might just have to jump back into the pool and show them how it's done.

What Pokemon battler do you use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:33:19 No.13735581 Report

Quoted By:

>>13735294

I think more people would find him useful in OU if they didn't copypaste Smogon's only set for him. It has Flamethrower instead of Fire Punch to hit Tangrowth and Steelix harder, but when is the last time you've seen them in OU?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:33:35 No.13735585 Report

Quoted By: >>13735680

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:36:14 No.13735625 Report

Quoted By: >>13735680

>>13733352

Awful in every tier. But it's cool. We gon' go on an adventure instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:40:32 No.13735680 Report

Quoted By: >>13736024

>>13735585

It's actually NU this month. Barely, though.

>>13735625

Normal Gem + Fake Out + Covet is always fun, especially in NU where Eviolite is everywhere.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2013 23:58:44 No.13735995 Report

Quoted By: >>13736484 >>13736881

Amazing in UU, complete tank and amazing utility. Can repair your entire team and even snag some kills. Kinda viable in OU given the right role but there are others there who get the job done better so it's not a smart choice for that.

Staple of any team I build though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:00:19 No.13736024 Report

Quoted By:

>>13735680
but it will always stink

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:01:31 No.13736036 Report

Quoted By:

>>13733352
One of the best in the OU tier.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:06:58 No.13736116 Report

Quoted By:

He's NU, and has priority problems. But my god, when he wrecks shit, he REALLY fucking wrecks shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:12:47 No.13736210 Report

Quoted By:

I'm pretty sure this is the face I pull every time I pull a disable on a scarf or anything with only 1 non-fighting move. Running a boosting physical with Fighting / EQ? Son you just got Gengar'd.

Sub-sable Gengar always.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:16:56 No.13736275 Report

Quoted By:

>>13733432
>>13733515
>>13733562
>>13733638
>>13733965
>>13734152
>>13734380
>>13734909
My black friends.
>>13734507
I use him, he's really underrated. SR weakness and frailty are issues, but speed, good power, and decent coverage make up for it.
>>13734511
Machamp is UU because Conkeldurr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:17:28 No.13736281 Report

Quoted By: >>13736290

Really bad... don't worry bro... you'll always be in my party.

Someone tell me that he can be good please.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:17:31 No.13736282 Report

Quoted By: >>13737465

Top design for a shitty pokemon. I love it anyways.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:18:07 No.13736290 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736281
Fucking forgot the picture, damn captcha

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:21:22 No.13736331 Report

Quoted By: >>13736350 >>13736363 >>13736388 >>13736394

You tell me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:22:15 No.13736340 Report

Quoted By: >>13736626

>>13735535
>only in warp-allowed metagame, which no comp game ever was. in no warp-allowed he was useless UU
>Shit
>Outclassed by salamence in every way shape or form
>Outclassed by salamence in every way shape or form
>Decent

!BLaZerPcEw

!BLaZerPcEw Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:22:32 No.13736347 Report

Quoted By:

>>13734983
I'm well aware.

I hope he gets calm mind or something in Gen VI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:22:50 No.13736350 Report

Quoted By: >>13736400

>>13736331
It kinda sucks for a starter.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:23:18 No.13736359 Report

Quoted By:

>>13733352
tfw ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:23:26 No.13736363 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736331
Mid-tier

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:24:46 No.13736386 Report

Quoted By:

In the lower tiers, Scarf Typhlo wrecks. Needs lots of support, but still great.

!BLaZerPcEw

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!BLaZerPcEw Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:24:51 No.13736388 Report

Quoted By: >>13736728

>>13736331
good typing
build him bulky, then throw on swords dance and roost and waterfall and be surprisingly annoying.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:25:03 No.13736394 Report

Quoted By: >>13736411

>>13736331
Decent in UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:25:25 No.13736400 Report

Quoted By: >>13736425 >>13736517 >>13736525

>>13736350
You know what "kinda sucks" for a starter?

Meganium.
Serperior.
Sceptile.

You know what's considered "average" for a starter?

Blastoise, Samurott.

You know what's considered excellent for a starter?
Blaziken and Infernape.

Empoleon is closer to those two than any other tier. You not liking him =/= Empoleon being sucky

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:25:38 No.13736406 Report

Quoted By:

He's RU, but he's pretty solid there. Really fun to use too, what with his massive movepool and all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:25:50 No.13736411 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736394
Shit forgot to describe my own pokemon.
NU, but he's hilarious for wrecking inexperienced players with accupressure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:26:51 No.13736425 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736400
Sceptile is in a higher tier than Samurott.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:27:33 No.13736441 Report

Quoted By:

Yea he's alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:28:33 No.13736452 Report

Quoted By: >>13736485 >>13736511 >>13736569

Lucario and Metagross?

Barely hanging onto OU. The insufficient stats, low speed, weakness to EQ, lack of sufficient new moves, and prevalence of powerful fire+ground types in the hyper offensive metagame mean they'll be in UU next gen.

Mega-evolution for Lucario won't change much, it needs at least 35 more base stat points in attack and 20+ in speed to stay relevant, and MLucario is only getting an attack boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:30:30 No.13736484 Report

Quoted By:

>>13735995
Who would have thought a small cat or fox thing could be so bulky

!BLaZerPcEw

!BLaZerPcEw Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:30:33 No.13736485 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736452
adaptability
and the rumor of fairy being weak to steel
I plan on using megalucario
close combat and fire punch for all the steels that'll be in the metagame to deal with the new fairies, and bullet punch to deal with the new fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:32:03 No.13736511 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736452
Metagross gets Magnet Rise, so in Doubles pair him with someone that can wreck fire types. Put him in a rain team too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:32:23 No.13736517 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736400
Sceptile is better than Samurott in every single way and probably on the same level as empoleon

Empoleon was pretty awesome at gen IV though

And Blaziken is not even on the same level as Infernape really. Uber means someting else

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:32:56 No.13736525 Report

Quoted By: >>13736539 >>13736709

>>13736400
I like Empoleon, it just sucks. Empoleon is only better than the Gen 5 starters, Meganium and Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:33:45 No.13736530 Report

Quoted By:

My bro is Regice. No, it's not very good, despite having great stats.

Doesn't matter though, I love my giant hunk of ice <3

My other bro Nidoking fairs a lot better up in UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:34:08 No.13736539 Report

Quoted By: >>13736559

>>13736525
Objectively, you're dead wrong.

It's better than 80% of the starters released to date. I don't know where you're getting the idea that he's bad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:34:57 No.13736550 Report

Quoted By: >>13736593 >>13736807

Probably one of the most mediocre Pokémon ever, but it can kill one or two things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:35:43 No.13736559 Report

Quoted By: >>13736591

>>13736539
Its stats are meh and every time i've used one it sucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:36:18 No.13736569 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736452
Oh, everyone who uses Lucario in OU now knows that come Gen 6 meta it'll be in UU no questioned asked.

It struggled to be an above average fighting type in Gen IV and it hasn't resolved that, or found a good niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:37:33 No.13736591 Report

Quoted By: >>13736639

>>13736559
>Its stats are meh
Its states are better than 90% of starters.

You not liking a pokemon =/= it being bad.

Your opinion is your own, but it's also uninformed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:37:48 No.13736593 Report

Quoted By: >>13736611 >>13736613 >>13736825

>>13736550
>Get's Moxie
>Has access to Sucker Punch, Roost and Superpower

He's not great, but he's hardly mediocre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:39:06 No.13736611 Report

Quoted By: >>13736675

>>13736593
On /v/ if you can't OHKO shit while tanking everything you're shit. Even Kamikaze pokemon like Staraptor are shit on while Braviary is praised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:39:10 No.13736613 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736593
>shitty offensive STABs
>shitty defensive typing
>only good stat is attack
>weak to pebbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:39:23 No.13736623 Report

Quoted By:

>>13733614
They are making a sequl

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:39:42 No.13736625 Report

Quoted By:

not terrible but not great either. Surprisingly bulkier than most people might be inclined to think

2 things though:
1) fuck you liligant for the superior ability plus quiver dance
2) fuck you Roserade for the superior movepool, especially when considering weather

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:39:47 No.13736626 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736340
>Not playing Wrap games on your friends to be a dick
>Good mixed attacker, ridiculous movepool, good Haze user
>Outclassed by Salamence, but not bad
>Salamence is Ubers, still has big dommoge, phys/spec split allows him to use good STAB
>Very good, 4th in OU usage list

!BLaZerPcEw

!BLaZerPcEw Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:40:27 No.13736639 Report

Quoted By: >>13736691 >>13736719

>>13736591
>its stats are better than 90% of starters
you should have checked
it's not
it's strength is its typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:41:10 No.13736651 Report

Quoted By:

>>13735233
but expert belt anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:42:21 No.13736675 Report

Quoted By: >>13736743

>>13736611
Braviary is shit though. The only good non-legendary bird Pokémon are Blaziken and Togekiss, while Archeops is only shitty because ofits ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:43:12 No.13736691 Report

Quoted By: >>13736728

>>13736639
Its strength is its typing + movepool + stats.

It has better stats than 90% of starters. The only water starter better than Empoleon is fucking Swampert. It's better than every grass starter and the only fire starters that best it are Infernape and Blaziken.

Christ almighty. You don't seem to understand that it's neither bad, nor sucky, nor mediocre. You don't like the pokemon, it colored your opinion, and its leading you to post some rather silly things.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:44:19 No.13736709 Report

Quoted By: >>13736754

>>13736525
What are you talking about? Awesome typing, good SpA, decent bulk all around. It's not in the running for the top 5 best Pokemon or anything, but it's by no means bad, or even mediocre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:44:46 No.13736719 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736639
Typing is a big part of a pokemon. That it has one of the best typings possible is a sizeable advantage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:44:47 No.13736720 Report

Quoted By: >>13736780 >>13736917 >>13737315

Skill Link+King's Rock is best. Doesn't belong in RU, considering I sweep fairly often in OU with it. Steel being the only problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:44:49 No.13736722 Report

Quoted By:

>>13733849
>>13733467
Comrades.

!BLaZerPcEw

!BLaZerPcEw Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:45:14 No.13736728 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736691
that's more than 10% of starters bruh
also
>>13736388

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:45:54 No.13736743 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736675

>Blaziken
>Togekiss
>Birds

Next you'll be trying to tell me that Noctowl is a bir- fuck it, I don't even care anymore.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:45:58 No.13736744 Report

Quoted By: >>13736769 >>13736779 >>13736799 >>13736844

I have no clue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:46:20 No.13736754 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736709
He wants Empoleon with at least 100 base stat defenses, 130 SpA, access to TBolt, Ice Beam, and Flamethrower, Swift Swim, and Shell Smash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:46:50 No.13736769 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736744
Decent in RU, shit in any other tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:47:25 No.13736779 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736744
>435 BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:47:25 No.13736780 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736720
Very fun pokemon, but frailer than wet tissue paper.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:48:47 No.13736796 Report

Quoted By:

UU but fun. Hasn't really changed that much over the years. Unlimited TM use was a godsend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:48:59 No.13736799 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736744
this is the one pokemon I have the most trouble with, its just so annoying to take out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:49:29 No.13736807 Report

Quoted By: >>13737312

>>13736550
>liking shitkrow
>implying shtkrow can kill anything if it's hit by scizor's (in OU, where nobody uses a bird Pokemon) or machamp's(in UU) bullet punch
>71 speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:50:17 No.13736825 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736593
His speed is the only thing stopping it from being better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:51:48 No.13736844 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736744
I have a minor fondness for this guy since the only shiny I've found that wasn't a Red Gyarados or an event pokemon or anything similar was one of those in SoulSilver.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:52:05 No.13736850 Report

Quoted By: >>13736868 >>13736881

I just got back into pokemon and have no idea how competitive works. I think shes probably alright?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:52:50 No.13736868 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736850
Pretty good deffensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:53:25 No.13736881 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736850
A good answer for you is
>>13735995

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:55:13 No.13736917 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736720
Dat 115 base speed.

All of my bros have remained OU. Accept no substitutes.

>Joltebro
Get rekt water

>Toxibro
Dat poison/fighting

>Starmibro
Always excellent.

>Haxobro
Always finds something to setup on.

>Gliscbro
Trollface.png

>Alakzbro
Dat magic guard.
Dat speed.
Dat spA.

>Tyrannisis
Yup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 00:57:27 No.13736965 Report

Quoted By:

>>13735355
Jimmy does, actually. Ash fought his friend with the Meganium at the Johto league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:02:01 No.13737066 Report

Quoted By:

Got the same bro as you, OP. I never really got to use him once he got Magic Bounce because I quit playing competive shortly after Black and White came out. I still use one named after my screen name in every in-game run.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:04:49 No.13737121 Report

Quoted By:

>Hone Claws
>SOVIET FURY until someone outspeeds him

He's pretty good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:10:00 No.13737221 Report

Quoted By:

>Heatran
Damn well
>Luxray
She does okay.
>Milotic
He has taken a thunder from a Kami, lived, and Ice beamed that fucker.
>Gardevoir
She can take out a few things, but not exactly a goddess.
>Roserade
Glass cannon. He is my answer to any and all Ground-types.
>Salamence
Garchomp get fucked!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:14:25 No.13737312 Report

Quoted By:

>>13736807
comparing scizors bullet punch with machamps is retarded

machamps BP is easily survivable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:14:29 No.13737315 Report

Quoted By: >>13737442 >>13737665

>>13736720
my nigga

you might appreciate this
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou-16008696

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:23:10 No.13737421 Report

Quoted By: >>13738160 >>13738217

Not sure what tier he's in, but I win a lot of matches with him.
>Embrace the fist of eternity

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:25:14 No.13737442 Report

Quoted By:

>>13737315
>http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou-16008696
>mastermind15: how are you hitting 5 time
Tip top kekekekek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:25:38 No.13737447 Report

Quoted By: >>13737465

>nobody liking banette

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:26:47 No.13737465 Report

Quoted By:

>>13737447

See:

>>13736282

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 01:38:49 No.13737665 Report

Quoted By:

>>13737315
>terrakion
>scizor
>skarmory
ewwww, I really hate when people use these pokes. It's too OU for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 02:07:51 No.13738160 Report

Quoted By:

>>13737421

ROCKET PUNCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2013 02:12:29 No.13738217 Report

Quoted By:

>>13737421

#1 in NU, but if Smogon hadn't locked the tiers down a few months ago he'd be in RU.

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