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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:09:38 No.18571640 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18571855 >>18576520

>2014
>Still using Aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:10:21 No.18571649 Report

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Why shouldn't I be using it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:11:01 No.18571660 Report

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>inb4 every post is about how king's shield is predictable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:11:25 No.18571662 Report

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>guaranteedreplies.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:12:43 No.18571679 Report

Quoted By: >>18572067 >>18572516 >>18573252 >>18573700

chesnaught walls the fuck out of it

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:12:49 No.18571680 Report

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My Aegislash is my bro. Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:13:21 No.18571688 Report

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How to get replies 101

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:13:58 No.18571695 Report

Quoted By: >>18572058

>Evolving Honedge
Looks perfect the way it starts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:14:10 No.18571698 Report

Quoted By: >>18571723

>He doesn't know that Attack -> Attack -> King's Shield is the best Aegislash combo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:16:10 No.18571720 Report

Quoted By: >>18571807

>2014
>not using Aegislash
If you like losing I guess that's your prerogative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:16:18 No.18571723 Report

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>>18571698
>Not Sub -> Toxic -> Sub -> King's Shield -> Attack -> King's Shield for ultimate stall points

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:19:48 No.18571762 Report

Quoted By: >>18571791 >>18571822

>they're still using King's Shield

The best set doesn't even use that shit, predictable move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:22:19 No.18571791 Report

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>>18571762
>I like letting my Aegislash die!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:23:22 No.18571807 Report

Quoted By: >>18571822 >>18572656

>>18571720
>2014
>Using Smogonsword

Innovate, scrub.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:23:57 No.18571815 Report

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>Still using King's Shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:24:28 No.18571822 Report

Quoted By: >>18571833

>>18571807
>2014
>needing to innovate
Can't hear you from so far up on the latter with your creative garbage.

>>18571762
The best sets are either ToxicStall, AutoSpecial, or MixedKS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:25:24 No.18571833 Report

Quoted By: >>18571850

>>18571822
>Using Smogon Ladder

Get official, scrub

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:26:31 No.18571850 Report

Quoted By: >>18571886 >>18576400

>>18571833
>not playing on Showdown
>resigning yourself to shitty VGC meta

ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:26:59 No.18571855 Report

Quoted By: >>18571872 >>18571924

>>18571640
>2014
>Still liking the concept of a sowrd pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:28:13 No.18571872 Report

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>>18571855
*sword, my bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:28:45 No.18571877 Report

Quoted By: >>18571891

>used to be able to completely block Aegislash with Weezing
>people started running mixed with Shadow Ball
;_;

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:28:45 No.18571878 Report

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>2014
>B8ing this hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:29:13 No.18571886 Report

Quoted By: >>18571916

>>18571850
>Playing on Showdown
>Not winning anything for competing in tourneys

Good job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:29:53 No.18571891 Report

Quoted By: >>18572706

>>18571877
>tfw so excited to start using Weakness Policy on Aegislash thinking it was the perfect item
>tfw no one runs WP anymore

I thought I knew how to use Aegislash. Guess I was wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:31:50 No.18571916 Report

Quoted By: >>18571950 >>18576412

>>18571886
>driving long distances to attend major tournaments
>just to play against and interact with GG NO RE mongoloid man children who haven't showered or shaved in weeks on the off chance of winning a shitty prize

i'll pas m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:32:41 No.18571924 Report

Quoted By: >>18572042

>>18571855
Aegislash is pretty decent, Honedge and Doublade look ugly as fuck though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:33:57 No.18571950 Report

Quoted By: >>18571964

>>18571916

Not even that guy, but holy shit you must be delusional or baiting to think Smogon ladder means shit compared to VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:35:00 No.18571964 Report

Quoted By: >>18571986

>>18571950
Considering they're two different metas I would imagine it doesn't mean shit relative to VGC. But I only play on Showdown. Where it matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:36:25 No.18571986 Report

Quoted By: >>18572011

>>18571964
>being this kind of faggot

You give Smogon users a bad name

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:36:52 No.18571991 Report

Quoted By: >>18572057 >>18572784

Aegislash @ Leftovers
252 SDef / 248 HP / 8 Def
Quiet Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Iron Head
- Toxic
- King's Shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:38:11 No.18572011 Report

Quoted By: >>18572525 >>18573634

>>18571986
I prefer 6v6 to shitty 4v4, and I prefer being able to change my sets on a whim without another hour of Bike Sim and Horde Battles - but somehow I'm obligated to care about VGC and the scrubs who play it? Yeah, nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:39:51 No.18572042 Report

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>>18571924
I don't dislike the design of Aegislash, i just can't image fighting other Pokemon with it....i mean, its a sword, and swords don't slash like normal claws or fangs

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:40:34 No.18572057 Report

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>>18571991
>no sub

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:40:36 No.18572058 Report

Quoted By: >>18572092

>>18571695
B-but Aegislash is the sword of the kings! It is in his pokedex entry!

"Apparently, it can detect the innate qualities of leadership. According to legend, whoever it recognizes is destined to become king."

D-don't you want to be a king?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:41:03 No.18572067 Report

Quoted By: >>18572748

>>18571679
Swords dance then shadow claw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:41:12 No.18572072 Report

Quoted By: >>18572087

Isn't it oneshotted without King's Shield / Defense Mode?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:42:07 No.18572087 Report

Quoted By: >>18572120

>>18572072
That's why you
>wait for it sick strat coming through
don't let yourself get hit in Blade Forme.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:42:32 No.18572092 Report

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>>18572058
>inb4 le ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:44:20 No.18572120 Report

Quoted By: >>18572136

>>18572087
You know what's a great way to not get hit in Blade Forme?
King's Shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:45:50 No.18572136 Report

Quoted By: >>18572260

>>18572120
Or switching out if you don't use KS for some reason, i.e. you run Autotomize, Rash, and 252 EVs in Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:55:16 No.18572260 Report

Quoted By: >>18572282

>>18572136
>Free switch for the opponent

Nice strategy 10/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:56:20 No.18572282 Report

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>>18572260
>implying there's anything they can switch to besides their specific Aegislash counter that matters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 21:59:34 No.18572314 Report

Quoted By: >>18572470

>not using arguably the best non-legendary + non-mega pokemon in the game

Yeah okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:10:31 No.18572470 Report

Quoted By: >>18572520 >>18572529 >>18572645

>>18572314
But this thread isn't about Dragonite

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:13:24 No.18572516 Report

Quoted By: >>18572748

>>18571679
but who the fuck actively uses Chesnaught in their party?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:13:51 No.18572520 Report

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>>18572470
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:14:05 No.18572525 Report

Quoted By: >>18572604

>>18572011

You're just an ignorant faggot who thinks his little sim in competitive Pokemon is the true meta as opposed to official VGC rules because you don't like that play style.

Don't delude yourself into thinking of it anything more than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:14:37 No.18572529 Report

Quoted By: >>18572827

>>18572470
>4x weakness
>gimmick ruined by Stealth Rock

lol no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:22:09 No.18572604 Report

Quoted By: >>18572678

>>18572525
You seem hilariously analblasted about my opinions of a meta game I don't play or have to care about. "Official" means absolutely nothing; no one is better at competitive just because of the meta game they play. The "official VGC rules and play style," to me, are absolute garbage, reflected by the fact that I don't play it - so I play a different meta game. It's that simple. "Official" means nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:25:34 No.18572645 Report

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>>18572470
What's this? Gen 5?

Foamp

Foamp Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:27:23 No.18572656 Report

Quoted By: >>18572686

>>18571807
>smogonsword

So, an OU pokemon has to have smogon in it?

kill yourself

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:29:02 No.18572678 Report

Quoted By: >>18572734

>>18572604
VGC is the playstyle that GF actually gives a fuck about balancing.

So nobody is better, but people like you give smogon an even worse name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:30:06 No.18572686 Report

Quoted By:

>>18572656
smogonsuicide

mark

mark Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:32:47 No.18572706 Report

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>>18571891
I fought 5 wp aegislashes yesterday

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:35:04 No.18572734 Report

Quoted By: >>18576199 >>18577643

>>18572678
>GF actually gives a fuck about balancing.
Why do I have to give a fuck about what GF thinks is "balanced"? They created M-Kangka meets The Meta: The Experience: Costarring Garchomp along with the gripping featurette Doubles: A MegaZard Y Tale - you call that "balanced"? Yeah, nah, you're a cunt m8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:36:38 No.18572748 Report

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>>18572067
>using swords dance sets
.using INFERIOR swords dance sets
>>18572516
People who don't want to get rekt by a common pokemon, or Mega Tyranitar/Gyardos

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:38:42 No.18572763 Report

Quoted By: >>18572778

Aegislash @ Air Balloon
252 Atk / 252 S.Atk
Quiet Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
- Iron Head/Flash Cannon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:41:01 No.18572778 Report

Quoted By: >>18572806

>>18572763
>no KS
Congrats, you're EQ-proof, but still die to everything else if you don't switch.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:42:17 No.18572784 Report

Quoted By: >>18572803

>>18571991
>Toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:42:48 No.18572787 Report

Quoted By: >>18572832

>maybe if i make fun of using aegislash people will stop using it and i can get above a 1200 rating

git gud OP you massive faggot. aegis is good but not impossible to beat. it has its counters just like everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:45:00 No.18572803 Report

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>>18572784
Toxic Stall Aegislash is legit. That guy's set needs Substitute instead of Iron Head though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:45:08 No.18572806 Report

Quoted By: >>18572829 >>18572898

>>18572778
>using KS
Chances are that a counter to Aegislash has already switched in your SB, there's no point in keeping it outside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:48:24 No.18572827 Report

Quoted By: >>18572847

>>18572529
>not using a phazer in this day and age

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:48:30 No.18572829 Report

Quoted By: >>18572865

>>18572806
It's so you don't get automatically revenge killed by everything on the planet. Without King's Shield Talonflame shits all over you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:48:43 No.18572832 Report

Quoted By:

>>18572787
intelligent post there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:51:14 No.18572847 Report

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>>18572827
>phazer
>gets rid of rocks

That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:54:12 No.18572865 Report

Quoted By: >>18572898

>>18572829
Any Talonflame (bar CB) would rather W-o-W, SD or Roost in fear of KS. Thanks for wasting a turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:58:27 No.18572890 Report

Quoted By: >>18572893 >>18572898 >>18572901 >>18572910 >>18572912 >>18572933

>not using the best aegislash set ever

Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 SDef / 248 HP / 8 Def
Calm Nature
- King's Shield
- Protect
- Toxic
- Substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:59:12 No.18572893 Report

Quoted By:

>>18572890
>Taunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:59:16 No.18572895 Report

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The only thing Gliscor cares about is HP Ice and maybe Shadow Ball on a special/mixed set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:59:41 No.18572898 Report

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>>18572806
>using Aegislash
>while their Aegislash counter is alive

ok

>>18572865
I think I'd rather risk a WoW or Roost than get OHKO'd.

>>18572890
Only if you need a wall. Not every team needs a Toxic staller.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 22:59:56 No.18572901 Report

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>>18572890
>King's Shield
>And Protect

Not how it works. Replace protect with something more useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:00:38 No.18572910 Report

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>>18572890

>Gets ruined by Taunt

At least give your sword one attacking move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:00:43 No.18572912 Report

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>>18572890
King's Shield and Protect run on the same counter retard. You can't use them one after the other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:01:57 No.18572932 Report

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Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 SAtk / 152 Spd / 48 HP / 56 Atk
Rash Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Sacred Sword
- Destiny Bond
- Autotomize

Concentrated evil

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:02:01 No.18572933 Report

Quoted By: >>18572952

>>18572890
>Not running superior
Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 SDef / 248 HP / 8 Def
Calm Nature
- King's Shield
- Protect
- Detect
- Toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:03:58 No.18572952 Report

Quoted By: >>18573201

>>18572933

Protect, Detect, and KS all run on the same counter. You can't use one after another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:07:57 No.18572975 Report

Quoted By: >>18573013

I've always just been bothered by how its hilt is too short and thick to conceivably hold. It's just impractical.
That, and I really don't like its attacking animation, it seems more like it's just flailing than actually slashing with its sword. I feel like a better design would be for the defense form to be the sword holding the shield, as it is, and for the attacking form to be the shield holding the sword. But instead it's just the same thing, in a different pose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:08:00 No.18572979 Report

Quoted By: >>18572998 >>18573008

came across shiny Aegislash, 5iv no speed, Adamant. what's the best way to run this fucker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:10:24 No.18572998 Report

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>>18572979
Not really a "good" way, just use KS, Swords Dance, Shadow Sneak and Sacred Sword. It's predictable as fuck and gets rekt by burn, but that's about all you can do for Adamant. It's a shame the Speed IV is 0 otherwise you could do an Autotomize set.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:11:06 No.18573003 Report

Quoted By: >>18573011 >>18573016 >>18573081 >>18573087

So... What exactly is the GOAT Aegislash set? I didn't even know that some SubToxic set is common nowadays (then again, I barely do any competitive battling). What different sets are actually viable? And why do people hate the Swords Dance set so much? Yeah, it gets shit on by Will-O-Wisp but so do all physical attackers. I've seen people here recommending mixed sets with Shadow Ball and max Attack and HP but I don't see unboosted 4 SpA Shadow Ball doing jack shit against anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:11:18 No.18573008 Report

Quoted By: >>18573014

>>18572979
252Atk/SpAtk @ spooky plate
Shadow ball
Shadow sneak
Kings shield
Sacred sword

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:12:07 No.18573011 Report

Quoted By: >>18574668

>>18573003
Flash Cannon
Kings Shield
Shadow Sneak
Shadow Ball
252 spa 252 hp 6 def
Weakness Policy
shiny
Nature +atk -int

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:12:22 No.18573013 Report

Quoted By:

>>18572975
>I've always just been bothered by how its hilt is too short and thick to conceivably hold. It's just impractical.

It's obviously meant for something with huge hands like Chesnaught or something.

>holding on to ghost swords that drain your soul in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:12:34 No.18573014 Report

Quoted By: >>18573153 >>18573159

>>18573008
>Using shadow sneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:12:42 No.18573016 Report

Quoted By: >>18573040

>>18573003
Nasty Plot, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, Flash Cannon.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:15:48 No.18573040 Report

Quoted By: >>18573072

>>18573016
>yfw Aegislash gets Nasty Plot and Aura Sphere in Pokemon Z

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:19:36 No.18573072 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573040
Nasty Plot would probably make people exclusively use special sets because of Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:21:42 No.18573081 Report

Quoted By: >>18573319

>>18573003
There are four GOAT sets.

ToxicStall (248 HP, 252 SpDef, 8Def), Modest
>le subprotect faec xD
>Shadow Ball for damage

Autotomize (252 SpA, 168 Spd, 88 Atk), Rash/Modest
>sanic sword
>Ball and Cannon for STAB
>HP Ice or Sacred Sword for coverage

Mixed (252 SpA, 252 Atk, 12 Speed), Quiet/Brave
>m-muh wall breaker
>KS and Sneak for priority
>Ball for STAB
>Sacred Sword for coverage

Physical (252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP), Adamant
>muh dancing sword
>Sneak for revenge killing
>Iron Head or Shadow Claw for STAB
>Sacred Sword or Head Smash for coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:22:17 No.18573087 Report

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>>18573003
>And why do people hate the Swords Dance set so much? Yeah, it gets shit on by Will-O-Wisp but so do all physical attackers.
Most physical attackers don't have identical Att and SpA attacks.

Furthermore, Swords Dance sets rely on Shadow Sneak for a STAB attack, unless they want to drop either King's Shield or priority and use Shadow Claw.

>but I don't see unboosted 4 SpA Shadow Ball doing jack shit against anything.
It still hurts like hell. You can even just skip out on the HP EVs and max out both Att and SpA. Aegislash has buttloads of viable sets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:31:19 No.18573153 Report

Quoted By: >>18573164

>>18573014
Shadow Sneak is excellent, it gets you a lot of safe OHKOs you wouldn't get otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:32:10 No.18573159 Report

Quoted By: >>18573210

>>18573014
>Talking shit about about STAB priority
Sure it's everywhere and predictable, but it's efficient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:32:37 No.18573164 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573153
Sorry, 2HKOs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:36:29 No.18573201 Report

Quoted By:

>>18572952
it was obviously a joke, aegi doesn't even get detect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:37:10 No.18573210 Report

Quoted By: >>18573222 >>18573253

>>18573159
>Unnecessary STAB priority with low bp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:38:47 No.18573222 Report

Quoted By: >>18573240

>>18573210
>Unnecessary STAB priority
Yeah because non-Auto sets are known for their blazing speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:40:17 No.18573233 Report

Quoted By: >>18573253 >>18573279

>just now got around to giving the Honedge line a try
>suddenly /vp/ tells me I'm not allowed to use it
WELL ALRIGHTY THEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:41:00 No.18573240 Report

Quoted By: >>18573263 >>18573269 >>18573279

>>18573222
>Hit pokémon with Shadow Sneak
>Too weak to OHKO
>Now you're in blade forme
>Dies to one hit
Nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:41:32 No.18573252 Report

Quoted By:

>>18571679

>SD
>Shadow Claw

Chesded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:41:38 No.18573253 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573233
It's still a really good mon and it's worth using, /vp/ just likes shitting down the throat of any pokemon in the OU tier.
>>18573210
>priority
>unnecessary
>on Aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:42:47 No.18573263 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573240
>Using shadow sneak when you're not guaranteed to kill
It's almost like you're retarded or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:43:06 No.18573269 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573240
That's why you use it AFTER something else for a safe kill.
Shadow ball -> they're low -> shadow sneak instead of taking another hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:44:01 No.18573279 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573233
If anything this thread should help you out immensely with the right natures, spreads and moves for your breeding purposes.

>>18573240
This is going to get plenty enough replies so I'm just going to call b8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:47:26 No.18573319 Report

Quoted By: >>18573371 >>18573383

>>18573081
Why Special Defense over Defense in Toxic stall set? Isn't Earthquake the most common answer to Aegislash? Also:

>Mixed
>Quiet / Brave
>12 Speed EVs

>Adamant physical set
>Max Speed instead of HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:50:14 No.18573356 Report

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He's got some damn good defenses, and I play mine as team support for my Trick Room team.
@Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Sp.Def
-Iron Defense
-King's Shield
-Swagger
-Attract

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:50:59 No.18573371 Report

Quoted By: >>18573447

>>18573319
>Why Special Defense over Defense
Typo, should be 252 in SpAtk.

>12 Speed EVs
Outruns Spd- Tyranitar.

>Max Speed instead of HP
Outruns Mega Venusaur, Mandibuzz, defensive Rotom-W, defensive Excarill, Landorus-T, Skarmory, and Heatran.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:52:04 No.18573378 Report

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But I like his design

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:52:25 No.18573383 Report

Quoted By: >>18573447

>>18573319
-Spe & 12 EVs outspeeds -Spe Ttar so you can OHKO with Sacred Sword.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:58:01 No.18573447 Report

Quoted By: >>18573471

>>18573371
>>18573383

Is -Spe Tyranitar really that common nowadays? I mean, I run one in my Battle Maison sand team but I thought it wasn't Smogon approved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2014 23:59:15 No.18573471 Report

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>>18573447
Mixed AV Tyranitar can't jeopardize its defenses, so it runs Quiet or Sassy sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:04:07 No.18573554 Report

Quoted By: >>18573569

so i just arrived 1600 on showdown and OU smogonmons are fucking food to porygon 2 and drapion

explain this please

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:05:05 No.18573569 Report

Quoted By: >>18573588

>>18573554
Porygon 2 I get, but Drapion how? What set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:06:48 No.18573588 Report

Quoted By: >>18573597

>>18573569
rest accupressure
>people see drapion
>decide to switch into their physical mon or into a hazards setter
>complains when i win the match because they didnt have a phaser

whew good job cutting your cookies over at smogon but forgetting the chocolate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:07:27 No.18573597 Report

Quoted By: >>18573614

>>18573588
Confirmed for bullshit
post a replay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:08:28 No.18573614 Report

Quoted By: >>18573676

>>18573597
how do i check out my past replays on showdown?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:09:40 No.18573634 Report

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>anything faster used Earthquake!
>Aegislash fainted!

It's a good mon though.

>>18572011
So you're a faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:13:27 No.18573676 Report

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>>18573614
pls respond
i want to show you that you are gay

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:13:59 No.18573684 Report

Quoted By: >>18573716 >>18573722 >>18576250

>liking 4v4 battles
>liking Bike Sim
>liking other VGC bullshit like Dark Void and certain legends being banned but not shit like M-Kangha or M-Gengar

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:15:32 No.18573700 Report

Quoted By: >>18573731 >>18573745 >>18574397

>>18571679
>2014
>Using Ches-NOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:17:08 No.18573716 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573684
oxford comma after Void, I know it's not banned anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:17:51 No.18573722 Report

Quoted By: >>18573744

>>18573684
I like to breed my own stock, come at me brudda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:18:56 No.18573731 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573700
>2014
>Using the same joke

also

>girlslaughingmeme.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:20:10 No.18573744 Report

Quoted By: >>18574195

>>18573722
There's a certain amount of fulfillment to it at first but it gets really annoying real fast when it comes to shit like Hidden Power, suddenly deciding on new movesets that require a different nature, or egg moves, or EV spread, etc. Simulators remove all of this at no cost to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:20:14 No.18573745 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573700
>2014
>using overused shit that is not good but has a good design

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 00:59:11 No.18574115 Report

Quoted By: >>18574301 >>18574333

>tfw hatched a shiny Honedge with crappy IV in HP. Its 31 in everything else. Its not garbage is it? aegislash doesnt even have that good of a base stat in HP anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:03:43 No.18574170 Report

Quoted By:

>only have aegislash and sylveon left
>he has full health diggersby
>use sacred sword
>diggersby has 4% left
>uh oh
>diggersby used earthquake
>immune
>guy in chat tell me he cant touch aegi because it only runs return quick attack pup and eq
>switch to slyveon just to be safe because i dont run kings shield
>he uses quick attack and dies from life orb recoil

tybg (thank u balloon god)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:05:17 No.18574195 Report

Quoted By: >>18574224 >>18574484

>>18573744
Not if you have a stock of every egg group male and the important nature dittos with high IV.

>Hidden power

Nah man we need that slot for protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:07:05 No.18574224 Report

Quoted By: >>18574238 >>18574340

>>18574195
>important nature dittos with high IV.
Might as well gen your mons at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:08:21 No.18574238 Report

Quoted By:

>>18574224
>implying genning will help you get gen 6 mons or new egg moves

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:12:24 No.18574301 Report

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>>18574115
>2014
>I'd like to point out that your text is still green when it's not supposed to be according to the meme arrow formula

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:14:32 No.18574333 Report

Quoted By: >>18577739

>>18574115
Yeah HP is probably the worst stat to have a shitty IV in; HP impacts its survivability more than its Def and SpDef individually. You should just keep it as a trophy, use it in-game or trade it to someone else but competitively speaking it's garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:14:52 No.18574340 Report

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>>18574224
Honestly the dittos are almost all 3IV some 4IV and they are only used for passing down natures.
The egg group males are the ones who pass the IVs.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:18:52 No.18574397 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573700
>girlslaughingmeme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:26:03 No.18574484 Report

Quoted By:

>>18574195
>genderless Pokemon

6IV Ditto or bust

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 01:36:11 No.18574668 Report

Quoted By:

>>18573011
>-int
We DnD now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:16:52 No.18576199 Report

Quoted By: >>18576252

>>18572734

>being this much of shit

No wonder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:21:54 No.18576250 Report

Quoted By: >>18576342

>>18573684

>Not getting good

If it ain't hyper offensive or pure stall, it's shit amirite?

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:22:00 No.18576252 Report

Quoted By: >>18576282

>>18576199
top kek m8

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:25:15 No.18576282 Report

Quoted By: >>18576342

>>18576252
Yeah, "top kek" back at you, scrub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:30:47 No.18576342 Report

Quoted By: >>18576422 >>18576676

>>18576250
>>18576250
>>18576282
>i don't use broken garbage like Parental Bond Seismic Toss or Shadow Tag Perish Song or an 80% Accuracy Sleep inducing move that hits both targets, forcing me to choose my already ridiculously few Pokemon from a select group of specific counters - or more realistically, checks - to the broken shit
>i am a scrub

I mean technically you're right, I could just use the same 5 pokes everyone else does in VGC: Chronicles of Dark Void 2: The Bravest Bird Edition, and I'm sure it would net me many victories. Unfortunately I like utilizing multiple strategies with a variety of Pokemon that require skill and forethought, not just >press Outrage >win, and the losses I incur for this foolishness is an entirely my fault. I'm one of those few types of people that find winning much more fun when I do it out of my own volition and ability - a concept I guess VGC players don't really understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:36:25 No.18576400 Report

Quoted By:

>>18571850
I like making up my own rules so I win too anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:37:36 No.18576412 Report

Quoted By:

>>18571916
>implying ur not going cause ur mum won't drive u , m8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:38:30 No.18576422 Report

Quoted By: >>18576574 >>18576659

>>18576342

You're over exaggerating the current meta, it's so pathetic. It's like you've never heard of status moves, sweet veil, priority moves outside of Gale Wings, things like that.

There's so much shit common shit it's easy to come prepared and not come fighting fire with fire. God forbid you do your own strats and number crunches.

You also talk as if Smogon Ladders aren't the same mons reused over and over.
The exact things you complained about are in Smogon but Dark Void and M Gar.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:42:10 No.18576483 Report

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> 1998+16
> Still no Rapier pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:45:15 No.18576520 Report

Quoted By:

>>18571640

True fact: Aegislash is the only non-legendary pokemon with 720 BST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:49:29 No.18576574 Report

Quoted By: >>18576643

>>18576422
Smogon's tiered system and VGC: 5 Minutes to Win It are not comparable; certain things are unnecessary when you're dealing with 4v4 over 6v6 to the point where even Smogon's OU preference for HO looks paltry in comparison. Thus OU and UU have a much, much larger pool of viable mons that have a wider variety of moves to choose from (Pokebank limitation nonexistent) and team-building is more than just
>lel smeargle
>lel sweepers
>lel priority

These are the strategies used in OU, players ranked ~1600 and below. And it shows when comparing GL's usage stats verses Smogon's. Also consider the fact that VGC's meta is static; Smogon's is dynamic. Enough people say, "Hey, maybe a Pokemon with 140/145 offenses and 4 priority moves shouldn't be used without legendaries to check it?" It allows for a much more evolved meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 03:57:24 No.18576643 Report

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>>18576574

I have no problems with Smogon and even agree with their ruling on certain things.

However, the point of this conversation was that you cannot talk shit about VGC and praise Smogon because at the end of the day GF adds/changes things based on 4v4 doubles and that VGC tournaments actually have rewards and even scholarships.
Meanwhile Smogon is just a fan site with made up riles.

Do you see what I'm getting at?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 04:00:36 No.18576659 Report

Quoted By: >>18576711

>>18576422
i agree with your point, but nevertheless, there is a difference between a STAB 40 BP priority move, 80 BP Extremespeed (which only Arceus, zigzagoon, Linoone and togekiss pre gen VI can use with STAB) and a STAB 120 BP with priority. it's not like they are the same thing at all.
i dont mind gale wings because they can be countered fairly easy, but dark void, though it can be countered relativily easy as well, feels a little cheap to me. there's really not much skill involved in fighting something that doesn't do anything. a little like paraflinch in a way
>inb4 git gud

Kyo 5129-1749-1484 (Magneton, Klang, Klefki)

Kyo 5129-1749-1484 (Magneton, Klang, Klefki) Fri 21 Mar 2014 04:02:27 No.18576676 Report

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>>18576342
>Seismic Toss Kangaskhan legal in VGC2014
>Perish Trap being OP ever
>not bothering to have any taunt pokemon/any safeguard option/any fast fake out/any lum berry pokemon to stop DV smeargle
>using Outrage in doubles
>implying Talonflame is used much anymore, or is in any fashion hard to deal with in doubles
>not understanding VGC teambuilding at all or why Garchomp/Rotom-W have such high usage percentages
>implying it isn't possible to do well in Worlds with a fucking Exeggutor
>knowing anything at all about the VGC metagame other than the memes that get tossed around /vp/
>knowing anythign at all about the OU metagame other than the memes that get tossed around /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 04:02:38 No.18576678 Report

Quoted By: >>18576739

So I'm sick of SD Aegi, help me make a SB one.

I was thinking Brave with 252 SpA/252 HP/ 4 Att

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 04:06:29 No.18576711 Report

Quoted By:

>>18576659

I agree, however as of current VGC you won't worry about half of those due to allowing Kalos obtainable non legends, aside the bird trio.

Dark Void is the only thing I think needs a ban, but it's still fairly predictable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 04:08:57 No.18576739 Report

Quoted By: >>18576803

>>18576678
Go with Quiet since Shadow Ball is the main attack that's going to be spammed. Shadow Sneak is only there to finish things off after a Shadow Ball and Sacred Sword is mainly for Tyranitar and Mandibuzz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 04:15:22 No.18576803 Report

Quoted By:

>>18576739
what makes you say that? just because it's the most damaging or because everyone's just going to respond with a physical wall?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 05:58:20 No.18577643 Report

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>>18572734
I still play VGC, but I have to say GF isn't, nor ever did balance jack shit. They just played favorites with whatever Ken liked.
See: Blaziken, Lucario, and Goodra.
All of these Pokemon were designed by Ken. Notice how in gen 6 the first two got a Mega Evolution, the first being the only non-Kanto starter to get one, and the second getting a fucking temple devoted to it. Goodra at least got the niche role with an Assault Vest. I assure you Goodra is due for a buff in the remakes. This will make nobody happy. Non-competitive autists will complain about furbait. Competitive autists will complain about now having to use furbait.

In the case of M-Kanga, that was likely the result of Nintendo's trademark 0 playtesting for balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2014 06:10:05 No.18577736 Report

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All i want is a shiny Aegislash...
:'(

General !!NAT9MheBu0r

General !!NAT9MheBu0r Fri 21 Mar 2014 06:10:58 No.18577739 Report

Quoted By: >>18578081

>>18574333

Gr8 b8 m8

Tripfag !DYH467iVb6

Tripfag !DYH467iVb6 Fri 21 Mar 2014 06:54:13 No.18578081 Report

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>>18577739
HP is easily one of the shittiest stats to have a bad IV in. What are you talking about

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