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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 00:48:48 No.18737213 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18738176 >>18738697 >>18740310 >>18741919 >>18743584 >>18750813

Where did it all go wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 00:49:40 No.18737223 Report

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Well, Dragon-types are probably a good place to start.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 00:52:46 No.18737267 Report

Quoted By: >>18737303 >>18739119

>Fairy
>created to nerf dragons
>every relevant dragon can run a steel or poison coverage move and outspeeds
>consequently, fighting and several dark types get shit all over instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 00:54:20 No.18737295 Report

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Most fairies being defensive oriented with crap spreads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 00:55:01 No.18737303 Report

Quoted By: >>18738682 >>18739214 >>18739854

>>18737267
>consequently, fighting and several dark types get shit all over instead
>they fail at even that because fighting is still OP
>meanwhile dark gets delicious knock off and based bisharp
Fairies are shit and as long as the primary (male) demographic enjoys dragons, fighting and edgy-types, they always will be shit. Deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 00:59:33 No.18737360 Report

Quoted By: >>18737401 >>18737456 >>18738295 >>18744970

That was always a shitty meme for children, and if you actually were dumb enough to think it was clever, you deserve your disappointment.
In any case, Dragons haven't been nerfed meaningfully. Steel is still better against dragons than Fairy is because Steel types don't end outrage, they just resist it. That allows them to set up or counter-attack with impunity, whereas ending outrage just lets them the dragon switch to a coverage move.

Even ignoring that, dragon types were never broken, and didn't need a nerf. Outrage sweeping was always late-game clean-up, not something to spam from the get-go.

The fact that GF damaged Dark, Bug, and Fighting types while doing nothing to fix (for example) Psychic type just demonstrates that they created fairy type for no real purpose, they just ran out of ideas with the types they already had. 'Nerfing the most powerful type' was just a marketing gimmick.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:02:57 No.18737401 Report

Quoted By: >>18737430 >>18737470 >>18742332

>>18737360
Honestly, I think Talonflame alone ruined bug type more than any number of fairies ever could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:04:34 No.18737423 Report

Quoted By: >>18737485 >>18737704

Pretty much everyone knows the only purpose of fairy-types was marketing to little girls. Which they failed at too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:04:46 No.18737430 Report

Quoted By: >>18739360 >>18742332

>>18737401
If it wasn't Talonflame, it'd be Mega Pinsir.

Think before you post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:06:15 No.18737456 Report

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>>18737360
It may have nerfed defensive Dark types, but Umbreon was always shit man. Bisharp and to a lesser extent Crawdaunt show how dangerous offensive dark types now are. Dark now has a great coverage move with excellent utility.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:07:24 No.18737470 Report

Quoted By: >>18739285

>>18737401
That's probably true, and Dark types are also getting more use because of Knock Off, but that has nothing to do with Fairy type specifically. Fairy type was just horribly thought out and doesn't need to exist. It's an overpowered defensive and offensive type that only is balanced out by the fact that almost all of the pokemon who are fairy type are completely awful stat-wise, and that won't stay that way forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:08:34 No.18737485 Report

Quoted By: >>18737535 >>18737546 >>18743568

>>18737423
If they really wanted to market to little girls, they wouldn't have made Sylveon the only fairy that's cute at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:12:33 No.18737531 Report

Quoted By: >>18737552 >>18737992

Why oh why couldn't they have just made some better ice types?
The best dragons have a 4x weakness to that, why couldn't they have just made a better ice population?

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:13:14 No.18737535 Report

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>>18737485
Mawile is cute aswell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:14:30 No.18737546 Report

Quoted By: >>18737658

>>18737485
>implying little girls don't eat up that babby shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:14:55 No.18737552 Report

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>>18737531
Avalugg came a gen too late.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:17:22 No.18737585 Report

Quoted By: >>18737641

Well, Fairies are shit, but Fairy moves aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:22:02 No.18737638 Report

Quoted By: >>18738125

>Poison resists dragon
>Poison super effective against dragon
>Create some new ice attacks

no need for fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:22:11 No.18737641 Report

Quoted By: >>18737701

>>18737585
>Implying it wouldn't have Ice Beam instead if it actually got it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:23:44 No.18737658 Report

Quoted By: >>18737680

>>18737546
Sylveon, sure, but what little girl wants an Aromatisse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:24:31 No.18737665 Report

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MEGA BLAZIKEN 5OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:25:50 No.18737680 Report

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>>18737658
it was advertised in a little girls' magazine ya dingus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:27:19 No.18737690 Report

Quoted By: >>18737731

Think of it this way. You've probably seen that comic with Jigglypuff and Kyurem-W. Your average fairy is like Jigglypuff and your average dragon is like Kyurem-W. Guess who beats who.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:28:18 No.18737701 Report

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>>18737641
>tfw no more Special Ice Punch gengar

i crie everytiem

truteal !hlnuDLeBD2

truteal !hlnuDLeBD2 Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:28:31 No.18737704 Report

Quoted By: >>18737719

>>18737423

Just like Lego Friends and Nerf Rebelle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:29:46 No.18737719 Report

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>>18737704
which is why the fairy-type should be abandoned and retconned out of existence just like the rest of Kalos

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:30:38 No.18737727 Report

Quoted By: >>18737754 >>18737924 >>18738056

When it was decided Fairies would be the diabetus incarnate modern stereotype rather than the original monsters of folklore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:30:46 No.18737731 Report

Quoted By: >>18737745

>>18737690
Actually, the average Fairy is more like Mega Mawile or Azumarill. Guess who beats who.
Hint: It's the one with Huge Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:31:02 No.18737733 Report

Quoted By: >>18737740

see >>18737378
Prove me wrong, faggots.

>someone's going to reply by cherrypicking a box legendary who is the exception that proves the rule

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:31:58 No.18737740 Report

Quoted By: >>18737757 >>18738431

>>18737733
There's a Mega Mawile, Azumarill, and Togekiss version? Since when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:32:44 No.18737745 Report

Quoted By: >>18737757 >>18737843 >>18737951

>>18737731
>252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 221-260 (54.7 - 64.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 304-358 (100 - 117.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:33:31 No.18737754 Report

Quoted By: >>18738431

>>18737727
Mawile is based on Japanese folklore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:33:48 No.18737757 Report

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>>18737740
It would end exactly the same way :^)
>>18737745

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:43:57 No.18737843 Report

Quoted By: >>18737864 >>18738431

>>18737745
>Choice Band on Dragonite
>Ever

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:45:37 No.18737864 Report

Quoted By: >>18737964 >>18737982

>>18737843
>not rekking everyone's shit with CB Win Button, including steels

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:51:03 No.18737924 Report

Quoted By: >>18737973 >>18738431

>>18737727
Klefki, Mawile, and Whimsicott have the deceptive folklore monster thing going for them. We need more, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:53:53 No.18737951 Report

Quoted By: >>18738018 >>18738072

>>18737745
I'm glad that you're able to point out the good Dragons, because Pokemon like Garchomp and Dragonite are good for reasons other than their Dragon-type.

Let's repeat that same scenario with Salamence, another perfectly viable Dragon-type of Gen V who was a terrifying sweeper, stopped by nothing once i-

>-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Salamence Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 204-240 (67.1 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (don't forget Mawile's Intimidate before it Mega Evolves)
>252+ Atk Choice Band Salamence Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 222-262 (54.9 - 64.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

...yeah. It doesn't do too well. Keep in mind that this thing was A Rank in Gen V.
The effect of Fairies wasn't the immediate annihilation of all Dragons in OU. Fairies simply stopped Dragons from dominating the tier. Are Dragons still the #1 offensive type, up there with Water? Nope! Dark's got that spot now.

And fucking duh Dragonite/Garchomp beat Fairies - that's why they're still OU. Fairies did their job by killing Hydreigon, Salamence, Haxorus, etc. dead. Nerfing means weakening, not destroying. Fairies succeeded in nerfing Dragons by purging the ones who did well only because they were Dragons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:55:06 No.18737964 Report

Quoted By: >>18737991 >>18738431

>>18737864
>click Earthquake
>opponent switches into Flying/Levitate
>click Outrage
>opponent switches into Fairy/Steel

Also, Banded DNite can't preserve its Multiscale. Way to go, you idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:56:08 No.18737973 Report

Quoted By: >>18738092 >>18738431 >>18743609

>>18737924
There's Gardevoir and Xerneas too. They have the "numinous otherworldly spirit" theme, though they're not as demonic as folkloric fae

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:56:51 No.18737982 Report

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>>18737864
252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Outrage vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Skarmory: 95-112 (28.4 - 33.5%)

Wow
rekked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:57:34 No.18737991 Report

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>>18737964
>i can't into prediction

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 01:57:34 No.18737992 Report

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>>18737531
Because ice is total shit, competitively.

And it's got some ugly as sin 'Mons, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:00:53 No.18738018 Report

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>>18737951
Salamence is only shit because Mega Charizard X exists and Haxorus and Hydreigon were going to hell anyway. Terrible examples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:04:22 No.18738056 Report

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>>18737727
Most fairy pokemon don't even fit the modern stereotype. Can someone really look at Sylveon and think to themselves 'pink with bows and ribbons...must be a fairy!'

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:05:34 No.18738072 Report

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>>18737951
>using calcs of salamence utterly destroying fairies with CB to prove your point
you're a fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:08:24 No.18738092 Report

Quoted By: >>18738431

>>18737973
No mention of Wigglytuff and Azumarill? Moon Rabbits are folklore related right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:13:11 No.18738125 Report

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>>18737638
why not steel instead of poison, makes even more sense what with the knights vs dragons thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:20:08 No.18738176 Report

Quoted By: >>18738257 >>18738454

>>18737213
>Where did it all go wrong?
Almost all of the new fairies (not the retcons) give the typing a bad image by either being pink and girly (Slurpuff, Aromatisse, Sylveon) or being so unusable and irrelevant (Dedenne, Carbink) that no one really remembers them. It would have helped if Florges wasn't almost entirely eclipsed by Sylveon and had more prominence, I think it's very well designed.

The new psuedo should have been a fairy. No another fucking dragon. And it should have been good, in design and competitive use.

More things that aren't pink blobs should have been retconned.

"Immune to dragon so it beats it!" should not have been hyped up. Garchomp beats most fairies because it's fast and has a powerful erfuake. D-nite also doesn't mind too much if its scale is intact, and just uses fairies to activate WP. X-zard is neutral to them and pretty much only Azumarill can beat it. "Holy fuck, favorable type match-up, I should win!" - no one thinks this.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:29:10 No.18738257 Report

Quoted By: >>18738322

>>18738176
>favorable type match-up
What does that taste like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:32:17 No.18738295 Report

Quoted By: >>18738357 >>18738431

>>18737360
Fairies are the only thing stopping Dragonite from being the god king of OU. Without permanent weather the only set it would have needed would have been Dragon Dance, Outrage, Fire Punch/Earthquake, and Roost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:36:06 No.18738322 Report

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>>18738257
It tastes like Close Combat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:38:31 No.18738346 Report

Quoted By: >>18738377 >>18738383 >>18738457 >>18738620 >>18738717

The sad thing is that the type itself is utter terrifying on paper.

May god help us the day we get Fairy Garchomp or some shit as good like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:38:57 No.18738357 Report

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>>18738295
>implying he was ever stopped

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:40:47 No.18738377 Report

Quoted By: >>18739750

>>18738346
If there were any viable fairies that aren't on the banlist of every competitive meta, GF would be mixing up their demographics. No little boy likes the idea of a fairy faggot rekking the shit out of his edgy dragon. Which is why the current situation stands.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:41:09 No.18738383 Report

Quoted By: >>18747270 >>18747410

>>18738346
>Fairy/Ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:47:02 No.18738431 Report

Quoted By: >>18738445 >>18738465 >>18738471 >>18738563

>>18738295
>>18738092
>>18737973
>>18737964
>>18737924
>>18737843
>>18737754
>>18737740
>>all fairyfags in this thread
It is completely and utterly wrong to even like fairies. What you are doing is spitting in the face of some of the most elite and civilized people on /vp/, if not 4chan as a whole. All of you should be hunted and killed in the most brutal manner possible. And take the faggots drawing fanart/writing fanfics/etc. of any of the XY media (games, anime, you name it). They are too gay to live in this galaxy. Kill yourselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:48:43 No.18738445 Report

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>>18738431
Oh, and when I said "to like fairies," I meant liking them even design wise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:49:26 No.18738454 Report

Quoted By: >>18738463

>>18738176
>Only Azumarill can beat X-Zard
Thunderpunch is a thing because fuck Azumarill

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:50:02 No.18738457 Report

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>>18738346
Xerneas exists. The thing fucking shreds.

But I get what you're saying. It'll happen someday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:50:43 No.18738463 Report

Quoted By: >>18738924

>>18738454
>running Thunder Punch for Azumarill
>not Erfquake for Heatran, Aegislash, and a bunch of other shit.
Get your priorities straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:50:45 No.18738465 Report

Quoted By: >>18738588

>>18738431
Epic bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 02:51:46 No.18738471 Report

Quoted By: >>18738588

>>18738431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:01:35 No.18738563 Report

Quoted By: >>18738642

>>18738431

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:04:11 No.18738588 Report

Quoted By: >>18738605 >>18738613 >>18738644

>>18738471
>>18738465
Nice samefag. I only speak the truth that thousands of trainers conform to, myself included. You are in no position to use an electronic device if you like anything about XY. Please die for the sake of humanity.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:06:14 No.18738605 Report

Quoted By: >>18738642

>>18738588
>You are in no position to use an electronic device if you like anything about XY
whatever bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:06:40 No.18738613 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738588
Epic.
Why are you here again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:07:33 No.18738620 Report

Quoted By: >>18738630 >>18739506

>>18738346
Fairy's strengths all lie on its defenses, where it's a better-for-the-meta Poison type.

You shouldn't fear the Fairy Garchomp.

It's the Fairy Cresselia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:08:31 No.18738630 Report

Quoted By: >>18738652

>>18738620
>Fairy BASTIODON

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:09:09 No.18738642 Report

Quoted By: >>18738655 >>18738664 >>18738676

>>18738605
>using Photoshop to prove a shitty point

>>18738563
>typical 13edgy616me response to a legitimate point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:09:17 No.18738644 Report

Quoted By: >>18738844

>>18738588
No u die, underaged b&.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:09:40 No.18738652 Report

Quoted By: >>18738662 >>18738677

>>18738630
>Carbink
...Nope, not feeling it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:09:51 No.18738655 Report

Quoted By: >>18738844

>>18738642
>"You should all kill yourself"
>legitimate point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:10:16 No.18738662 Report

Quoted By: >>18738719

>>18738652
Fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:10:19 No.18738664 Report

Quoted By: >>18738844 >>18738866 >>18738894

>>18738642
>trying this hard
Your containment board is right here:
>>>/v/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:11:36 No.18738676 Report

Quoted By: >>18738844

>>18738642
>All of you should be hunted and killed in the most brutal manner possible
>not edgy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:11:53 No.18738677 Report

Quoted By: >>18738719 >>18738835

>>18738652
>Fairy/Ice
Because fuck dragons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:12:18 No.18738682 Report

Quoted By: >>18738691

>>18737303
>edgy, kiddie first buzzword

underaged faggot spotted, fuck off back to 9fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:13:41 No.18738691 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738682
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:14:36 No.18738697 Report

Quoted By: >>18738715

>>18737213
Being named fairy
Having 3 overpowered advantages and 3 shitty counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:15:38 No.18738715 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738697
I meant 2 counters

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:15:39 No.18738717 Report

Quoted By: >>18738729

I agree with >>18738346. The type itself isn't bad, in fact it has lots of potential, but they didn't make good mons for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:15:49 No.18738719 Report

Quoted By: >>18738748

>>18738662
Sorry I had to do that, anon. Nothing personal.
>Fairy/Steel is GOAT defensive typing
>used twice on non-defensive Pokemon
>unlikely to ever be seen again
Such a pity.
>>18738677
>4x to boolet
>no longer resistant to Fighting
>implying Dragons don't run Fire, Rock, or Steel-type coverage
>implying Mega Charizard X isn't the posterboy of Dragons from now until the end of the franchise
Don't be stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:16:39 No.18738729 Report

Quoted By: >>18738747

>>18738717
just like every other facet of the rushed piece of shit that was xy

OP !JfywuYJ1v2

OP !JfywuYJ1v2 Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:18:24 No.18738747 Report

Quoted By: >>18738772 >>18738777 >>18738844 >>18738866

>>18738729
>>>/v/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:18:26 No.18738748 Report

Quoted By: >>18738843

>>18738719
What must I do to please you, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:20:32 No.18738772 Report

Quoted By: >>18738790 >>18738797 >>18738806

>>18738747
>he has an opinion that is different. he belongs in /v/
gen 6 was the worst game I've ever played to completion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:20:51 No.18738777 Report

Quoted By: >>18738806

>>18738747
you do have to admit, it was pretty goddamn rushed

if the fairy-type wasn't nothing but a marketing ploy, the only explanation for why they fucked it up so badly is because the game in which it debuted fucked up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:22:16 No.18738790 Report

Quoted By: >>18738822

>>18738772
gen 6 is like the king midas of faecal matter, everything it touches turns into shit
>the type balancing
>the story
>the character
>the region
>the framerates
>the bugs
>the shitty gimmicks
>the gameplay
>the music
>the metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:23:05 No.18738797 Report

Quoted By: >>18738803 >>18738823 >>18738863

>>18738772
By RPG standards, pretty much every pokemon game is complete ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:23:30 No.18738803 Report

Quoted By: >>18738813

>>18738797
>I have never played BW

OP !JfywuYJ1v2

OP !JfywuYJ1v2 Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:23:58 No.18738806 Report

Quoted By: >>18738843 >>18738863

>>18738772
You must have not played many games then.

>>18738777
It was a tad bit rushed, but only a little. The only negative thing I have to say about it is the frame rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:24:29 No.18738813 Report

Quoted By: >>18738823

>>18738803
Still pretty shit for an RPG.

sure I'll bite

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sure I'll bite Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:25:28 No.18738822 Report

Quoted By: >>18738863

>>18738790
So many lies.
>The region
raucouslaughter.gif
>the music
opinionistrash.jpg
>the gameplay
ohshitniggerwhatareyoudoing.png
>the character
dohohohohohoho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:25:30 No.18738823 Report

Quoted By: >>18738843

>>18738813
>>18738797
But anon, all Japanese RPG's are complete ass.

:^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:26:18 No.18738835 Report

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>>18738677
>B-b-but dragons are cooollllllllll

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:27:07 No.18738843 Report

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>>18738748
If you're the one who suggested Fairy/Ice, try coming up with type combinations that complement each other instead of running yourself to ruin out of spite.
Something like Fairy/Ghost or Fairy/Dark could be interesting for a defensive Fairy. Anything with an Ice subtyping is best used for offense or not at all.
>>18738806
He could just be dropping games that are unsalvageable before completing them. I doubt he's the sort of guy who'd waste his time finishing something as awful as Sonic 06.
>>18738823
u wot m8 say that to my face u wanker and see wut happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:27:17 No.18738844 Report

Quoted By: >>18738849 >>18738853 >>18738856 >>18738890 >>18738892 >>18738914

>>18738747
You are the most autistic tripfag to ever exiist. Die.

>>18738676
>>18738664
>>18738655
>>18738644
Samefag. It's been established that you shouldn't ever, EVER, be in possession of an electronic device if you are willing to disagree with us superior, elite anons who just want to have a non-shit, civilized discussion on this board for once

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:27:43 No.18738849 Report

Quoted By: >>18738874

>>18738844
;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:28:26 No.18738853 Report

Quoted By: >>18738874

>>18738844
;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:28:54 No.18738856 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738844
(^;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:29:28 No.18738863 Report

Quoted By: >>18738908 >>18738915 >>18747207

>>18738797
Yes, but gen 6 was noticeably shit
At least the first 5 gens were playable.
I liked pokemon, but none of them ever stood out as an amazing RPG
>>18738806
Anon, I've probably played the most games out of anybody in this thread.
>>18738822
Region was more linear than Unova and none of it was interesting past the town that, upon release, could BREAK THE FUCKING GAME
Music was all either forgettable or shit
Megas were a win button and Fairy type fucks everything up
I've seen Deviantart fanfics written better than gen 6.
None of these are arguments, it's just "You're wrong because I'm right and that's hilarious"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:29:40 No.18738866 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738664
>>18738747
>/a/utists in my /vp/
Back to your containment board as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:30:34 No.18738874 Report

Quoted By: >>18738884

>>18738849
>>18738853
It's true, look at all of the people in this thread agreeing with us normal people. Kill yourselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:31:23 No.18738884 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738874
;^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:31:41 No.18738890 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738844
>superior, elite anons
>non-shit, civilized discussion on this board for once

Where do you think you are?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:32:04 No.18738892 Report

Quoted By: >>18738901

>>18738844
>>>/s4s/
>>>/b/
>>>/v/
>>>/adv/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:32:17 No.18738894 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738664
Reminder that containment board is a buzzword. Every board is a containment board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:33:05 No.18738901 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738892
>>>/a/
Make your redirections there, they do it all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:33:40 No.18738908 Report

Quoted By: >>18738946 >>18738980 >>18739027

>>18738863
>Fairy type fucks everything up
more like tries to fuck everything up but ends up falling into obscure irrelevance

OP !JfywuYJ1v2

OP !JfywuYJ1v2 Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:34:18 No.18738914 Report

Quoted By: >>18739021

>>18738844
Nigger, don't even try.
I am a superior being, a fucking god. You can't touch me.
What I say is fact.
And I say that you're a faggot.
Kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:34:42 No.18738915 Report

Quoted By: >>18738935 >>18738946 >>18739006

>>18738863
I see where you're coming from. Personally, I try to wait until we have more than just the first pair of the generation to work with before passing judgement on it. It worked out in Gen IV, I'm hoping they can turn this shit around for "Z" or whatever they decide to do.
I disagree entirely with regard to the music, though. And since my in-game Megas were Venusaur and Aerodactyl, pls no bully, I never got the feeling that they were unreasonably strong for the story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:35:21 No.18738924 Report

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>>18738463
Yeah, because the first answer to Charizard X is pitting ground weak mons against it when it usually carries Earthquake. If your opponent has both Azumarill and Heatran he is always going to use Azumarill, your opponent will realize that you don't carry EQ and will then use Heatran, but you already got the advantage. Learn to play, fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:36:14 No.18738935 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738915
>what is strange souvenir
>implying they'll fix this story
>ever
Next games are in another region. Kalos is unsalvageable and in the next gen will be retconned out of existence, along with fairies and megas. Ss they should be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:37:47 No.18738946 Report

Quoted By: >>18738960 >>18739099

>>18738908
It is strong against and resistant to 3 of the most devastating types
It is weak to 2 types that are fucking useless offensively
I know first-hand (used a Mawile in my playthrough) that fairy is fucking broken. And in Mawile's case its even worse because it has the win button type and a god damn mega.
>>18738915
Most of the problems with X and Y are things that can only be fixed in the next gen (shitty type balance). And some I guarantee won't be (Megas will stay).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:38:57 No.18738960 Report

Quoted By: >>18738992

>>18738946
you can use a goddamn luvdisc and win in-game, it's fucking piss-easy and boring
how about using your "broken" fairies competitively and see where that gets you

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:40:33 No.18738980 Report

Quoted By: >>18739010

>>18738908
>obscure irrelevance
#5 in doubles, with Mega fucking Milf as competition for mega slot, is pretty good. And there's Togekiss, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:41:42 No.18738992 Report

Quoted By: >>18739038

>>18738960
I have
It worked out
Megas are broken
so is fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:42:29 No.18739006 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738915
I agree, but there's no point in arguing with that kid. Just look at the entire thread, all shitted up with samefag, memes and pseudo-trolling, better always just ignore and report

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:42:55 No.18739010 Report

Quoted By: >>18739022

>>18738980
>fairy type is super relevant
>only 3 are useable the rest is garbage

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:44:09 No.18739021 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738914
>implying you're god

Bitch please, Arceus is my true god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:44:10 No.18739022 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739010
I see two fairies there. I only see one dragon :^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:45:05 No.18739027 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738908
>five OU fairies
>all of them are OU-worthy
>Gardevoir will join pretty soon
>Mawile has the highest success rate of anything in SPL
>Xerneas is making the entire Ubers tier its bitch
>Florges is the queen of UU
>Swirlix was demonic in LC and had to get banned
>b-but fairies are irrelevant guise!

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:45:47 No.18739038 Report

Quoted By: >>18739070 >>18739086

>>18738992
Half of the megas are shit, in the useable half you have like 6 megas that are broken, out of those only 4 were useable in standard play.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:48:33 No.18739070 Report

Quoted By: >>18739100 >>18741913

>>18739038
Fixed that for ya m80.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:49:29 No.18739086 Report

Quoted By: >>18739100 >>18739142

>>18739038
>Mega Heracross that low
>and Megakazam
>Bannette shitty enough for its own tier
>Gardevoir not top

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:50:30 No.18739099 Report

Quoted By: >>18739118 >>18739127 >>18739160 >>18739184 >>18739227

>>18738946
>complaining about balance
I was around for parts of Gen IV and all of Gen V, and this is probably the healthiest meta I've ever seen.
I honestly don't understand why people can call Gen VI the shittiest, most imbalanced generation for PvP unless they're trolling or just new.
Did you bear witness to the horrors of Weathermon? Did you watch in disgust as a parade of bans merely attacked the branches of the issue and not the grizzled, drizzled root?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:50:41 No.18739100 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739070
>>18739086
Not mine. Stole it from a Banette thread a few days ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:52:37 No.18739118 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739099
Gen VI needs more work before it's on the level of based post-Garchomp DPPt. But it's getting there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:52:38 No.18739119 Report

Quoted By: >>18739185 >>18739232 >>18740602

>>18737267
>Fairy
>created to nerf dragons
as far as im concerned, Dragons were always nerfed. only Strong against themselves, and no one else. I always have to rely on a secondary type to really enjoy them, but that only gives them a secondary weakness too. Fairy was just salt in the wound

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:53:17 No.18739127 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739099
Because you didn't play Gen 4. The only bad thing was the shit speed, stall was bullshit and it's half an hour games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:54:33 No.18739142 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739086
>Gardevoir
>as good as Zards, Pinsir, Venusaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:55:44 No.18739160 Report

Quoted By: >>18739253 >>18739259

>>18739099
>I was around for parts of Gen IV and all of Gen V,
Because you were too new to experience top level Gen 4, and you've never played Gens 2 or 3 seriously. The current meta is horrendous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:57:36 No.18739184 Report

Quoted By: >>18739259

>>18739099
This may be the worst meta yet since BW2. What's worse, the people over at Victory Load are the most complacent doublespeaking faggots ever, and they're the only ones with a real voice to change anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 03:57:53 No.18739185 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739119
With only steel resisting it. It was more notorious in VGC with everything EV'd to live Dragon Gem Draco Meteor from Latios, the most popular shit on the format. Then people got onto Modest Latios to kill shit EV'd to live hits from Timid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:00:22 No.18739214 Report

Quoted By: >>18739241 >>18743549

>>18737303
Brace yourself for more gender-neutral fairies. They don't have to be fluffy and pink, they can just be supernatural fey critters
I mean, look at Xerneas, it's just about the biggest threat in ubers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:01:10 No.18739227 Report

Quoted By: >>18739257

>>18739099
>hyper offense only: final destination: the game: the movie: the cinematographic opera
>healthy
>not shitty
>ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:01:40 No.18739232 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739119
You're clearly terrible. You don't need SE hits to kill something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:02:59 No.18739241 Report

Quoted By: >>18739288

>>18739214
>more gender-neutral fairies
>implying there were any to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:04:02 No.18739253 Report

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>>18739160
I'd go so far as to say Pokemon can no longer be a competitive game. Nobody needs skill to win in any metagame, smogon or VGC. It's all matchup, hax and whichever side kills the other faster with their mirror match HO team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:04:22 No.18739257 Report

Quoted By: >>18739279

>>18739227
>m-muh funbro ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:04:28 No.18739259 Report

Quoted By: >>18739295 >>18739299 >>18739309

>>18739160
>>18739184
>The current meta is horrendous
If I ask why, will it have anything to do with Deosharp being everywhere, defensive teams not being viable or HO teams being the only viable team type? Because Deosharp is not even that strong compared to last gen rain offense (and can't even compare to XY rain HO) and can easily be solved by banning Deo-D, and defensive teams are strong.

At least compared to last gen (weather wars was a low point I know) the amount of variety in the meta is pretty neat.

>inb4 hurf Victory Road defense force

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:05:23 No.18739279 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739257
>implying I used funbro ever
>implying the upper ladder isn't exclusively HO
>implying anything else is viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:05:47 No.18739285 Report

Quoted By:

>>18737470
But the threat of fairies gives you more reason to carry offensive Poison- and Steel-types, compared to before when the former had no love and the latter was only used defensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:05:52 No.18739288 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739241
Do Xerneas and Carbink look like sexy ladies to you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:06:32 No.18739295 Report

Quoted By: >>18739310

>>18739259
Just because this meta is shit doesn't mean that last gen wasn't also shit. If you want quality singles play Gens 1-4. The only real reason to play the current meta is because it's the most popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:06:42 No.18739299 Report

Quoted By: >>18739310

>>18739259
>Because Deosharp is not even that strong compared to last gen rain offense
Hi VRDF, nice self inb4 :^)

>and can easily be solved by banning Deo-D
>implying the smogon elite scrubs will let their easy wins slip
lel good one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:07:57 No.18739309 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739259
because gen 5 and gen 6 are the brawl to 3-4's melee

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:08:04 No.18739310 Report

Quoted By: >>18739321 >>18739335 >>18739346

>>18739295
Gen1, 2 and 3 were also amazingly centralized.

>>18739299
>implying the smogon elite scrubs will let their easy wins slip
Why'd they ban Mega Fite puppy then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:09:46 No.18739321 Report

Quoted By: >>18739375

>>18739310
>Why'd they ban Mega Fite puppy then?
Because scrubs used Mega doge too. And they won. Clearly that can't happen. :^)

No, the real ban they were going for was Genesect. Why do you think the ladder is all Deosharp HO now? Because they removed a hugely important balancing factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:11:22 No.18739335 Report

Quoted By: >>18739388

>>18739310
>amazingly centralized
So the fuck what? Why is that a bad thing? They were still far more rewarding, more competitive, overall more fun and more challenging to play at any skill level. I'd rather play a meta as centralized as Gen 2 then this current shitstain, or the last current shitstain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:12:00 No.18739346 Report

Quoted By: >>18739375

>>18739310
>Gen1, 2 and 3 were also amazingly centralized.
This is not a bad thing. Gen 2 was pretty much the Chess of Pokemon.
And then you have utter horseshit like Gen 6, where skill plays absolutely no part in whether you win or not. It's all matchups, luck and muhmentum between two identical HO teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:12:55 No.18739360 Report

Quoted By: >>18742332

>>18737430
>GW

Priority BB/Acro is why I had to stop using Heracross

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:15:22 No.18739374 Report

Quoted By:

Who cares about you pansy, edgy Dragonfags?

Us real alpha FIGHTAN-Type trainers are the ones who really get fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:15:30 No.18739375 Report

Quoted By: >>18739426

>>18739321
I thought only scrubs used Deosharp.

>No, the real ban they were going for was Genesect
Then why suspect Luke at the same time? And Genesect was used a buttload by HO teams too.

>Why do you think the ladder is all Deosharp HO now?
But it's not? It's friggin common between 1500 and 1700 but tapers off at a higher level. Legitimately skilled players don't use framework teams.

>>18739346
I'm being 100% genuine when I say if you can't beat Deosharp with a defensive or stall team, you absolutely suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:17:10 No.18739388 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739335
This shitstain is even worse than the last one because now that Victory Road exists, it couldn't possibly be any clearer that the current shit meta is a feudal land for the elite circlejerk to make decisions at a whim with rigged suspect tests to preserve their ranking, ergo their credibility and ultimately their power.

You know why they're never suspecting the cancers of the meta, like Deo-D, Aegislash, Thundurus? Because they're their most important HO tools.

>b-but muh spl stall matches
>implying all you have to do to curb HO usage isn't just to ASK PEOPLE TO PLAY STALL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:20:52 No.18739426 Report

Quoted By: >>18739464 >>18739535 >>18739785

>>18739375
Why do you play an unsalvageable meta, the support for which Gamefreak has long abandoned, instead of playing the more skill-heavy and rewarding older gens like you should?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:24:18 No.18739464 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739426
For one thing it's a PITA to find battles for them. I also do enjoy playing XY stall more than other gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:26:16 No.18739487 Report

Quoted By: >>18739500 >>18739557

Whats wrong with XY meta?

It's the closest thing to DPPT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:27:33 No.18739500 Report

Quoted By: >>18739903

>>18739487
skillless shit, and the fags who run it are denying it's skillless shit 24/7

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:28:23 No.18739506 Report

Quoted By:

>>18738620
Fairy chansey anyone? :^)

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:30:52 No.18739535 Report

Quoted By: >>18739550 >>18739719

>>18739426
>the more skill-heavy and rewarding
It's fucking pokemon.

What, gen II was "the chess of Pokemon?" Really? Mechanics are added, new pokemon come and go but holy shit it's pokemon, take off your rose tinted glasses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:32:13 No.18739550 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739535
>What, gen II was "the chess of Pokemon?"
This is true.
https://www.smogon.com/smog/issue28/gsc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:33:23 No.18739557 Report

Quoted By: >>18739627

>>18739487
Suicide rocks was a thing back then.

What a wild ride that meta was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:41:05 No.18739627 Report

Quoted By: >>18739705

>>18739557
Papa, can you tell me the tales of DPPT meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:43:27 No.18739658 Report

Quoted By:

Trying to guess what moveset Salamence is running with while he kills half of your team.

Fun times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:47:33 No.18739705 Report

Quoted By: >>18739846

>>18739627
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/electivire

Look up azelf as well. This shit used to get used. Proved to me that a meta is only as good as its players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:48:46 No.18739719 Report

Quoted By: >>18739776

>>18739535
>just because it's pokemon doesn't mean your multiplayer can't be shit :^))))))
>>>/out/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:50:44 No.18739750 Report

Quoted By: >>18739772

>>18738377
Dubs confirm. Aside from that, this makes a startling amount of sense, whereas Game Freak just being stupid with their type didn't...

Unfortunately... I think this is why they screwed over more than half the fairy types. It's all part of their grand master plan...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:52:26 No.18739772 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739750
it's too bad the real purpose of fairy-types, which was a marketing ploy to attract the female demographic, also failed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:52:35 No.18739776 Report

Quoted By: >>18739790

>>18739719
>Still using pathetic kiddie smile

/vp/ is always shit, but when all the 10 years old go all out it becomes cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:53:24 No.18739785 Report

Quoted By: >>18739806

>>18739426
Not him but:
-they're dead metas almost no one plays anymore
-I like XY. I like demolishing almost each and every Deosharp team I come across with my rain offense team. I find it fun.

Seriously, if you hate playing again HO just run rain HO. It utterly destroys every other offensive team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:53:44 No.18739790 Report

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>>18739776
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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:55:37 No.18739806 Report

Quoted By: >>18739824

>>18739785
>people fucking recommend winning by matchup instead of fucking outplaying shit
this is why this meta is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:57:15 No.18739824 Report

Quoted By: >>18739826 >>18739957

>>18739806
>m-muh skill
I can't hear you over the sound of specs hydro pump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:57:51 No.18739826 Report

Quoted By: >>18739917

>>18739824
>downplaying fucking skill in a competitive game
No, anon, you are the cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 04:59:24 No.18739846 Report

Quoted By: >>18739863

>>18739705
I kind of miss the concept of leads. Shame team preview killed all that. Imagine if Zoroark was gen IV.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:00:21 No.18739854 Report

Quoted By: >>18739883 >>18740621 >>18742221

>>18737303
>demographic enjoys dragons, fighting and edgy-types, they always will be shit. Deal with it.
>BU HUUUU DRAGONS ;_;
>BU HUUUU FIGHTING ;_;
>BU HUUUU SCARY!!!!
Wow wow wow, careful about that edge, cunt.
It's a game about monsters after all. Go play Cooking Mama or whatever "cute" games you girls play

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:00:45 No.18739863 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739846
Didn't Shoddy battle already have team preview for gen 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:02:38 No.18739883 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739854
>i can't into reading

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:04:55 No.18739903 Report

Quoted By: >>18739909 >>18742332

>>18739500
This.
>"m-muh priority brave bird"
Fuck off.
Same with Mega Pinsir. There is no fucking skill in using either of these mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:06:22 No.18739909 Report

Quoted By: >>18739922 >>18739958

>>18739903
what's even worse is that smogon is pretty much the most self-aggrandizing feudal land of a "competitive" "metagame" since LoL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:06:46 No.18739917 Report

Quoted By: >>18739925 >>18739943 >>18739958 >>18739996

>>18739826
If Deosharp players had more skill they wouldn't be playing Deosharp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:07:15 No.18739922 Report

Quoted By: >>18739950

>>18739909
>Smogon is GAMEFREAK

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:07:46 No.18739925 Report

Quoted By: >>18739933 >>18739957 >>18739958

>>18739917
Who needs skill in this meta? :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:08:25 No.18739933 Report

Quoted By: >>18739950

>>18739925
People who want to win tourneys or top the ladder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:09:00 No.18739943 Report

Quoted By: >>18739964

>>18739917
What is Deosharp, and why is it so good? I'm only around 1450 on the ladder so I haven't run into it everywhere yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:09:40 No.18739950 Report

Quoted By: >>18740048 >>18740057 >>18740069

>>18739922
>implying VGC isn't just as shit
(^:

>>18739933
>SPL
>anything other than staged exhibition matches to cover up the sorry state of the real meta
top kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:10:12 No.18739957 Report

Quoted By: >>18740057

>>18739925
>>18739824
This is sad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:10:20 No.18739958 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739925
>>18739917
>>18739909
So much agreement

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:11:24 No.18739964 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739943
Deoxys can freely set up hazards because a decent player would use magic coat to deflect taunt.

If someone tries to Defog Deo's hazards, they switch into Defiant Bisharp giving him a free +2 attack.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:13:47 No.18739996 Report

Quoted By: >>18740007 >>18740057 >>18740135

>>18739917
You ever notice how Smogon Defence Force say DEOSHARP IS EASY TO FUCK KEK but never say how. You know why? They know there's little counterplay to it, especially with Thundurus instead of Bisharp. They're just HO kiddies doublespeaking and downplaying the thing that gets them quick and easy wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:14:46 No.18740007 Report

Quoted By: >>18740030 >>18740038

>>18739996
mega heracross

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:16:32 No.18740030 Report

Quoted By: >>18740066

>>18740007
>being birdbait

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:16:53 No.18740038 Report

Quoted By: >>18740056

>>18740007
OHKO'd by Defiant Thundurus' Power Herb Fly.

(^:

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:17:38 No.18740048 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739950
At least in VGC there's some semblance of outplaying and skill, I wouldn't compare it to this current meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:18:19 No.18740056 Report

Quoted By: >>18740155

>>18740038
>Power Herb Fly.
I-Is this a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:18:20 No.18740057 Report

Quoted By: >>18740092 >>18740239

>>18739950
>implying you or any other ladder shitter could win in it

>>18739957
My team only happens to steam roll HO teams. I often get very satisfying matches against defensive teams.

My recommendation was to run rain HO if you legitimately don't know how to beat other HO. I wasn't recommending to rely on it to ladder for favorable match-ups.

>>18739996
HP Fighting Lati@s or Mega Scizor. Take your pick, they can both beat Thundurus and Bisharp 1v1 or on the switch. Now quit bitching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:18:54 No.18740066 Report

Quoted By: >>18740121

>>18740030
Then Switch to your Rotom-W/Zapdos

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:19:04 No.18740069 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739950
VGC isn't glorified Roulette.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:21:06 No.18740092 Report

Quoted By: >>18740104

>>18740057
The reason why tourneys have so much stall is because people were fucking ASKED to use Stall. That's it. They want outsiders to have the best impression of the completely unsalvageable glorified roulette that is the real metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:22:07 No.18740104 Report

Quoted By: >>18740109 >>18740225

>>18740092
>I can't git gud with a defensive team, how do they do it? It must be a hoax :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:22:41 No.18740109 Report

Quoted By:

>>18740104
>implying "gittin gud" means anything at this point
good one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:23:44 No.18740121 Report

Quoted By: >>18740138 >>18740164

>>18740066
>yfw natural gift talonflame to ohko romwash.

+1 252+ Atk Liechi Berry Talonflame Natural Gift (100 BP Grass) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 248-292 (81.5 - 96%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

I've been caught out before. Bulk up/roost/arcobatics/natural gift.

Top why.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:24:38 No.18740135 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739996
Correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:25:01 No.18740138 Report

Quoted By:

>>18740121
That's why you use physically defensive Zapdos instead. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:26:25 No.18740155 Report

Quoted By:

>>18740056
It isn't, he's just retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:27:16 No.18740164 Report

Quoted By:

>>18740121
Don't run specially defensive washing machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:34:16 No.18740225 Report

Quoted By: >>18740254

>>18740104
Git gud means nothing when skill is irrelevant in this metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:35:31 No.18740239 Report

Quoted By:

>>18740057
>HP Fighting did Fuck All against Aegislash!
>Thundurus used Knock Off!
>Thundurus used Scizor as set-up bait!
>Scizor is saying his last prayers as Thundurus interrupts him, ramming his electrified cock deep inside Scizor's asshole!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:37:44 No.18740254 Report

Quoted By: >>18740281

>>18740225
How is skill irrelevent in this metagame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:40:42 No.18740281 Report

Quoted By:

>>18740254
see the boatload of posts above
including your admission that you don't need skill when you're spamming specs dick pump in the rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:43:25 No.18740310 Report

Quoted By:

>>18737213
Fairy types are a gimmick beyond mega mawile who can actually do damage, and maybe azumarill who was pretty good to begin with. Beyond that, the only fairies we have are so shitty and weak they serve no purpose beyond 'countering' dragon types, most of which now pack iron head/poison jab/roseli berry. Dragons aren't even that dominant, maybe if you still play singles (really faggot?), and if they were so OP why wait like three gens to fix it? Why now? It's a fucking marketing ploy. That's all it is. They're hoping little girls will line up to buy pokemon now because they shoehorned in a new type. It could have been pretty fucking pony type or Glitter type, at least glitter type I could respect, there's no denying that's a marketing trick. But fairy?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 05:46:48 No.18740348 Report

Quoted By:

>people who even bother defending this shitty marketing ploy
>>>/mlp/
>>>/mlp/
>>>/mlp/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 06:01:55 No.18740451 Report

Quoted By: >>18740557

>taking a cashcow kid's game this seriously

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 06:03:40 No.18740464 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 06:16:59 No.18740557 Report

Quoted By: >>18740571

>>18740451

Personally I'm just glad that people have finally realized that the fairy type sucks. I was trying to say all this stuff months ago but the fanboys here weren't having it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 06:18:38 No.18740571 Report

Quoted By:

>>18740557
Only a matter of time until people realize gen 6 as a whole is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 06:22:32 No.18740602 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739119
lel git gud kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 06:24:58 No.18740621 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739854
that woman needs help
please be fake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 10:07:10 No.18741913 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739070
This is perfectly accurate... For the inferior game mode that is Singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 10:09:12 No.18741919 Report

Quoted By:

>>18737213
What if Fairies were weak to STAB Normal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 11:43:52 No.18742221 Report

Quoted By:

>>18739854
Girl here
Menstrual fluid smells foul when it's fresh. I can't imagine the stink of month-old stuff, fucking christ. And it sounds like she's asking for some sort of disease too, that can't be sanitary.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 12:17:16 No.18742332 Report

Quoted By: >>18746979

>>18737401
>>18737430
>>18739360
>>18739903
>still crying on talonbro

every fucking time. the enitre meta is about cock blocking that fucking bird, which is funny and sad like hell.
and you faggots screamed how Talonflame is NU shit even with gale wings.
Top. Fucking. kek.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:20:47 No.18743549 Report

Quoted By: >>18743563

>>18739214
>Xerneas a threat
Do you even Ho-oh?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:22:40 No.18743563 Report

Quoted By: >>18743621 >>18743808

>>18743549
>Ho-Oh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:23:15 No.18743568 Report

Quoted By: >>18746701

>>18737485

>hating based Florges

Wow anon, I had no idea you had such bad taste!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:25:34 No.18743584 Report

Quoted By:

>>18737213
Reality not meeting the Internet hype machine's expectations. I have to wonder what would happen if there were more fairies that were comparable to Garchomp, Dragonite, Scizor, etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:29:14 No.18743609 Report

Quoted By: >>18743795

>>18737973
>Thinking just because it's loyal to it's trainer means it can't be demonic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:32:48 No.18743621 Report

Quoted By:

>>18743563
defog arceus makes keeping rocks off the field easy as shit in ubers

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:34:40 No.18743630 Report

Quoted By: >>18743833

>Fairy

Sup faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:47:20 No.18743723 Report

Quoted By:

Dragon: shit type, cool mons.
Fairy: god type, shit mons.
Look at Altaria or Xerneas for examples.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 16:58:15 No.18743795 Report

Quoted By: >>18743822

>>18743609
>gardevoir is really a horrific abomination underneath the beautiful fae glamour

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 17:00:43 No.18743808 Report

Quoted By:

>>18743563
>being scared of rocks with recovery Ho-Oh
Oh course, first you need to be smart enough to run defensive Ho-Oh, so that may be your problem

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 17:02:25 No.18743822 Report

Quoted By:

>>18743795

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 17:03:50 No.18743833 Report

Quoted By:

>>18743630
>Aggron

Sup faggot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:19:20 No.18744970 Report

Quoted By: >>18745017

>>18737360
>Steel is still better against dragons than Fairy is because Steel types don't end outrage, they just resist it
Only problem with that line of thought is it doesn't cancel outrage upon switching in. As soon as your first pokemon dies from outrage you bring in your fairy and bam, free turn to do absolutely anything

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:24:23 No.18745017 Report

Quoted By:

>>18744970
>Replying to 18-hour-old posts
>Making points which are obviously redundant because of Team Preview

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:26:00 No.18745034 Report

Quoted By:

Speaking of which, what's the opinion of team preview around here? Or should this go in a different thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:54:37 No.18746701 Report

Quoted By: >>18748684

>>18743568
But m8, Florges is hideous. Yet I'll let it slide as it's one of the only fairies that gives off a fairy vibe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:59:11 No.18746750 Report

Quoted By: >>18747236

Dragon's typing isn't what makes them so powerful, it's the stats.
Adding another weakness doesn't matter if they can just out speed everything and OHKO them.
All Fairy really needs is a priority move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 23:30:29 No.18746979 Report

Quoted By:

>>18742332
Bravest Bird is a real problem tho. It FORCES you to run a Rock-Type, or risk a party member to take it out after possibly surviving its kamikaze attempt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 23:59:40 No.18747207 Report

Quoted By: >>18747229

>>18738863
>music was all either forgettable or shit

I understand that that is subjective, but you know nothing about music if you think one specific gens music was shit.

educate me, using music theory, on why the chord progressions and genres used in XY, which are all either so similar to the other games or a cool step up from the previous ones, are shit.

If you can't, then you hate the music because you hate the games and you have no real basis on your argument other than "I hate everything".

its fine that you hate gen 6, okay, cool. just don't post your opinion like its the only almighty one on this board and whine when people get mad at you. Don't be such a baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:02:16 No.18747229 Report

Quoted By:

>>18747207
also, yes. I am replying to a 12+ hour old post. hurr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:03:54 No.18747236 Report

Quoted By:

>>18746750
Hopefully it's special and is only distributed to every Fairy that would bother running special moves. Dark and Fighting types can't take anymore hell from Fairy coverage.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:08:25 No.18747270 Report

Quoted By: >>18747404

>>18738383
>Fairy/dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:17:59 No.18747356 Report

Quoted By:

>mismagius
>based on actual fairy
>not a fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:18:51 No.18747372 Report

Quoted By:

>Where did it all go wrong?
1) a majority of the faries aren't "manly" enough for the "manly" "hetero" men playing pokemon
2) most faries aren't even that good, only 3-4 useable ones, and only 1 is uber.

Fairy is a GREAT type competitively, immune to a common type, weaknesses that aren't SUPER common (although being so good it's not so good weaknesses are better now) and it's super effective on some of the better/common types (dragon, fighting).

Wait until we get a fairy with a high BST. Dragon is a shit typing, yet some of the best competitors are dragon type. Fairy is amazing. I fear the day we get a fairy pseudo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:22:49 No.18747404 Report

Quoted By:

>>18747270
Ho ho no please why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:23:07 No.18747410 Report

Quoted By: >>18747497

>>18738383
You could change Garchomp to Fairy/ground, give it Playrough, and it would absolutely destroy the metagame with no other changes to its stats or movepool. Gen 4 Chomp all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:34:30 No.18747497 Report

Quoted By: >>18747546

>>18747410
>give it Playrough
Give this Fairy/Ground an ability which boosts accuracy too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 00:40:35 No.18747546 Report

Quoted By:

>>18747497
Play Rough is fine at 90%. I guess you could give it Pixilate to make Returns ridiculously powerful, but it seems overkill. The point is more Fairy+high attacking and speed stats = destruction.

I wonder what moves a Fairy/Dragon Salamence with Moon Blast and Play Rough would spam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 02:51:15 No.18748684 Report

Quoted By:

>>18746701
Florgesis based as fuck. Beauty, good in a fight if you can get into strategy...

Anon, you cray cray.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 05:29:47 No.18749948 Report

Quoted By:

>tfw no Fairy/Dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Apr 2014 07:53:57 No.18750813 Report

Quoted By:

>>18737213
Probably because
1.)Dragons have monstrous BST,and most fairy types are shit
2.)Most dragons has access to steel and poison attacks,just outspeeding the fucking thing
Fairy type moves are still good though.Ended up severely nerfing fighting

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