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Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:12:50 No.18985142 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18985164 >>18985186 >>18986651 >>18986670 >>18987891 >>18990330 >>18990365 >>18990446 >>18990762 >>18993847 >>18993909 >>18993973 >>18994155

Game Freak has decided that one of the changes they did for Gen 6 was stupid, and they're going to undo it in Gen 7.

Which one is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:13:28 No.18985147 Report

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you litterally just posted it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:13:29 No.18985148 Report

Quoted By: >>18986627 >>18986772

Pokémon Amie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:16:11 No.18985164 Report

Quoted By: >>18985182

>>18985142
What happens when Mega Kangaskhan uses Hyper Beam/Giga Impact? Does it still only load for one turn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:17:00 No.18985171 Report

Quoted By: >>18990762

Character customization

Be honest, you know they wont bring it back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:17:12 No.18985174 Report

Quoted By: >>18985255 >>18985281

Fairy type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:18:15 No.18985182 Report

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>>18985164
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:18:33 No.18985186 Report

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>>18985142
Buffing Raichu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:27:33 No.18985255 Report

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>>18985174
I can pray for this, but it won't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:30:05 No.18985273 Report

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Mega Kangaskhan is fine as long as Power-Up Punch doesn't up twice in one turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 18:31:08 No.18985281 Report

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>>18985174
>implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:39:55 No.18986612 Report

Quoted By: >>18990762 >>18994395

Hidden Power nerf. They'll realize how inferior and coverage-hungry special attackers are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:41:19 No.18986627 Report

Quoted By: >>18986772

>>18985148
poke amie and super training are about 99% not coming back in gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:43:33 No.18986651 Report

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>>18985142
The steel nerf and the hidden power nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:45:04 No.18986670 Report

Quoted By: >>18986764

>>18985142
Speed Boost Scolipede

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:50:17 No.18986731 Report

Quoted By: >>18986762

Mega evolutions. [spoilers]I'm allowed to hope aren't I?[/spoiler:lit]

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:52:21 No.18986762 Report

Quoted By: >>18986783 >>18993826

>>18986731
they're never going away, anon

and they won't include half of them in the next games so you have to buy X and Y and transfer them over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:52:30 No.18986764 Report

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>>18986670
Hey. Scolipede really needed this buff (and the attack boost I guess). Now he can even handle his own in Ubers!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:52:57 No.18986772 Report

Quoted By: >>18986780 >>18986809

>>18986627
>>18985148
I actually doubt that Amie will be removed just because they tied Sylveon to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:53:14 No.18986776 Report

Quoted By: >>18986789 >>18987923

The mistake of buffing Beautifly's stats, but not Dustox's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:53:35 No.18986779 Report

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They do that every gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:53:41 No.18986780 Report

Quoted By: >>18986812

>>18986772
Eh... I'm sorry about this anon but... You should take a look at Milotic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:53:43 No.18986783 Report

Quoted By: >>18988211

>>18986762
>they're never going away, anon

But they're stupid.

;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:54:00 No.18986789 Report

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>>18986776
If anything, they should buff Ledian and Ariados

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:55:14 No.18986809 Report

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>>18986772
they'll probably do something else. think prism scale feebas

unique features like amie tend to be a one-gen-only feature. RSE had secret bases, DPPt had underground, and BW had Dreamworld

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:55:23 No.18986812 Report

Quoted By: >>18993832

>>18986780
Oh shit, I'm a retard.

Also, you can't get Leafeon, Glaceon, Magnezone or Probopass in HGSS if it counts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 20:59:11 No.18986877 Report

Quoted By: >>18986912

Exp. Share

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:00:53 No.18986908 Report

Quoted By: >>18990762

What new X/Y feature hasn't been mentioned in this thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:01:05 No.18986912 Report

Quoted By: >>18986941 >>18986952 >>18986966

>>18986877
It has been there since Generation I, are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:02:18 No.18986941 Report

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>>18986912
>being a pedant
Just because it was changed back doesn't mean it wasn't changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:02:53 No.18986952 Report

Quoted By: >>18986970

>>18986912
The gen VI exp share is a whole different beast than the other versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:03:30 No.18986966 Report

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>>18986912
He probably means the new Exp.Share where your whole team gets experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:03:45 No.18986970 Report

Quoted By: >>18987470 >>18987551

>>18986952
Not really, it's similar to how it works in Generation I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:43:36 No.18987470 Report

Quoted By: >>18987610

>>18986970
>Gen 1
>Exp. All
>anything like the Exp. Share

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:52:17 No.18987551 Report

Quoted By: >>18990934

>>18986970
Gen 1 Exp All distributed exp equally
Gen 6 Exp Share gives the fighting pokemon full exp and party pokemon half of that each

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 21:56:19 No.18987610 Report

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>>18987470
First of all, the Exp. Share only had a different name outside of Japan in Generation I. And its original effect was similar in that all party Pokémon were affected. That's what I meant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 22:05:59 No.18987716 Report

Quoted By: >>18990569

Just make parental bond like Sheer Force.

No secondary effects. Obviously no 30% power increase, because of the baby. I can't believe I have to type that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 22:07:21 No.18987728 Report

Quoted By: >>18987755 >>18990575 >>18990822

The only correct answer is to eliminate fucking sky battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 22:09:12 No.18987755 Report

Quoted By: >>18987801

>>18987728
Wanna bet that they'll stay and Inverse gets the shaft?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 22:14:06 No.18987801 Report

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>>18987755
>a new feature that is actually cool as fuck
>limited to a single fucking battle
>the other format is so shitty it made every flying Pokemon have to suffer with a terrible model
of course inverse battles are going to be canned for their lame gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 22:23:35 No.18987891 Report

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>>18985142
>Game Freak has decided that one of the changes they did for Gen 6 was stupid, and they're going to undo it in Gen 7.

Pokémon Amie effects not being mandatory for online battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 22:26:01 No.18987923 Report

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>>18986776
jesus, that's an embarrassing fuckup. how did they even manage that???

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 22:58:34 No.18988211 Report

Quoted By: >>18990491

>>18986783
>I don't like something, therefore people who do like it shouldn't be allowed to have it in the next game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 23:02:33 No.18988253 Report

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I like interacting with Pokémon through Amie, so I don't want it to be removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:03:29 No.18990330 Report

Quoted By: >>18990569

>>18985142
>no move tutors

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:06:34 No.18990365 Report

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>>18985142
Better stat adjustments. Don't add more points to a stat that isn't used. Layman's terms, don't give an extra 10 points to Machamp's (just using it as an example) Sp. Attack as opposed to its Sp. Defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:12:10 No.18990430 Report

Quoted By: >>18993830

They will remember they forgot to give Kangaskan extreme speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:13:08 No.18990446 Report

Quoted By: >>18990714

>>18985142
how bout if they tweak parental bond maybe like defeatus but instead of halving stats the baby just goes away

so maybe 50% of HP the baby gets to tired and the effect of hitting twice is gone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:15:11 No.18990469 Report

Quoted By: >>18990762 >>18993833

Fix Fairy:

>It now resists Water, Ghost and Rock(in addition to the other resists/immunity)
>It's now weak to Grass
>It is resisted by Grass, Ice and Ground
>Hits Water super effectively

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:16:33 No.18990491 Report

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>>18988211
You're treating Pokemon features like constitutional rights.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:19:15 No.18990519 Report

Quoted By: >>18990569 >>18990587

Taking past gens as a example

Amie, super training, clothes/haircut, ridable gogoats, and hordes.

But we'll keep rollerskates and underleveled battle chatues.

Sylveon will become trade eevee holding item like milotic did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:21:59 No.18990548 Report

Quoted By: >>18990707 >>18990762 >>18990783

No one suggested Knock Off? I say nerf Knock Off. That move is too good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:23:41 No.18990565 Report

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Mega Evolutions are the dumbest shit they could have came up with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:23:58 No.18990569 Report

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>>18987716
The parent's attack would keep its effect, right?
And the Seismic Toss set would still be pretty broken.
And it would still have the equivalent of 213 base Attack when fully invested, plus good bulk and Speed.
>>18990330
>implying that isn't going to change before the end of this generation
>implying they won't be absent from the first games of Gen VII anyway
See: literally every generation since II
>>18990519
>underleveled Battle Chateaus
Did you try the writs? Did you figure out which ones stack? Did you learn to stick to unique models and Furisode girls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:24:48 No.18990575 Report

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>>18987728

>Gen 7 release
>sky battles core encounter
>also reveal water battles
>only swimmers/flyers can fight while surfing
>top it off with bug only battles because context lost in translation

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Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:26:07 No.18990587 Report

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>>18990519
>not wanting Amie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:36:49 No.18990707 Report

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>>18990548

Make it a static 60bp or revert it back to 20 and double the damage if it knocks off an item

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:37:07 No.18990714 Report

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>>18990446
i'm on board with this. reasonable enough! but if they want megas to be super op and remain that way.. we're stuck widdit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:39:59 No.18990746 Report

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Megas; but that's asking too much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:41:53 No.18990762 Report

Quoted By: >>18993906

>>18985142
This one they actually admitted to.

>>18985171
I wouldn't really mind, but I think it is here to stay.

>>18986612
This was awful. Didn't even get HP Fairy out of it.

>>18986908
This was a ridiculous buff.

>>18990469
fullretard.webm

>>18990548
It is the only thing that make Dark types really worth it though. Otherwise, they are mostly an inferior Ghost type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:43:46 No.18990783 Report

Quoted By: >>18990828

>>18990548
>65 base power, 50% boost if the foe is holding an Item
>boost only works once, except against lolSticky Hold
>still less than 100 power when boosted
>NVE on the hot new type
>Pokemon holding their Mega Stones can ignore Knock Off's effect
>using up a Consumable item allows players to bypass Knock Off's effect
>Game Freak wants players to use Consumable items, Mega Evolutions, and Fairy-types anyway
I admit that I'm biased in favor of the buff. I was so scared for m-muh Dark-types after the Fairy-type reveal.
>only 2 Dark-types in Gen V OU
>both were Pseudos
>one was outclassed and should've dropped
>Fairy leaks implied that Dark would get even worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:48:31 No.18990822 Report

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>>18987728
Going into a sky battle with only a underleveled Vivillon was suffering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:49:39 No.18990828 Report

Quoted By: >>18990895

>>18990783

Sticky Hold doesn't prevent the boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:50:08 No.18990835 Report

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They'll change their mind and start making some top tier Fairy types, statwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 02:57:28 No.18990895 Report

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>>18990828
I know. I never said that it didn't. Hell, I pretty much said the opposite.
>boost only works once, except against lolSticky Hold
Should be taken to mean that "this move will only deal extra damage once per target unless the target happens to have the already terrible Sticky Hold ability, which will keep Knock Off at 97.5 base power as punishment for using such an awful ability".
Seriously, there's no reason to ever run Sticky Hold now that Stench adds a Flinch chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 03:03:06 No.18990934 Report

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>>18987551
And EVs from defeated pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:21:47 No.18993826 Report

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>>18986762
But you can't upload items to Bank for now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:23:51 No.18993830 Report

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>>18990430
NO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:24:40 No.18993832 Report

Quoted By: >>18993837 >>18993846

>>18986812
In the canon of the games those Pokemon don't exist at the time so I guess that's okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:24:52 No.18993833 Report

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>>18990469
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:25:15 No.18993834 Report

Quoted By: >>18993837

megaevolution and fairy type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:25:53 No.18993837 Report

Quoted By: >>18993840

>>18993832
They DID exist, they were just stuck in the one region.

>>18993834
Anon, we're not losing a type, you keyboard smashing rere

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:27:28 No.18993840 Report

Quoted By: >>18993884 >>18993885

>>18993837
yes we're losing a type so shut up and fuck sylveon, pokemon is not a game for girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:29:21 No.18993846 Report

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>>18993832
True, but then there's stuff like Yanmega and Tangrowth who can evolve just fine in HGSS

Nou Metal

Nou Metal Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:29:22 No.18993847 Report

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>>18985142
____3D___

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:40:59 No.18993884 Report

Quoted By: >>18993896

>>18993840
>Implying just girls can like the Fairy type
Get out of the closet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:42:23 No.18993885 Report

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>>18993840
what are you, 12

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:45:17 No.18993896 Report

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>>18993884
>tfw I like Carbink

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:52:31 No.18993906 Report

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>>18990762
The thing Darks have going for them is that they are the only thing that resists ghosts, the need to give Steel it's Ghost resistance back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:53:09 No.18993909 Report

Quoted By: >>18993919 >>18993928 >>18993943

>>18985142
Honestly the only thing they fucked up are how some megas are incredibly powerful (Gengar, Kangaskhan, Blaziken, Lucario etc) while some megas are why.jpg (Banette, Aggron, Absol etc).
I'd really just want them to balance out some megas.

I like mega evolutions though, they're great and they should stay. They should add only a few megas per generation (10 or so).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 11:57:55 No.18993919 Report

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>>18993909
>Ampharos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 12:01:34 No.18993928 Report

Quoted By: >>18993942 >>18993949

>>18993909
The problem with that is that they gave Megas to Pokemon that were already powerful while a lot of others that needed a boost like that got shafted, and the weaker ones that did get a Mega didn't change much. There's only a few like Mawile that really benefited from getting a Mega, I want to see more like that in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 12:03:48 No.18993942 Report

Quoted By: >>18993945

>>18993928

Except a lot of those ones ought to just get regular evolutions instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 12:04:18 No.18993943 Report

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>>18993909
aggron would be OU if it just had a fucking recovery move besides rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 12:04:59 No.18993945 Report

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>>18993942
I agree, but they probably won't get rid of Megas just to make them regular evolutions. It's the best we have for now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 12:05:30 No.18993949 Report

Quoted By: >>18993962 >>18993968 >>18994117

>>18993928
How many shitmons benefited from Megas?
- Kangaskhan
- Pinsir
- Mawile
- Manectric (though this may be contentious)

That's about it, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 12:07:51 No.18993962 Report

Quoted By: >>18994106 >>18994115

>>18993949
>Kanga
>Pinsir
>Shitmon

Look at this nerd. They're definitely broken now, but they were always usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 12:09:50 No.18993968 Report

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>>18993949
manectric is great, only thing that would've been nice is a few more points into SpA so he can OHKO x4 ice weak things with HP ice without having to resort to modest

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 12:10:29 No.18993973 Report

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>>18985142
>Back to 2D over worlds
>gamefreak pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 13:02:19 No.18994106 Report

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>>18993962
They were shitmon though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 13:05:12 No.18994115 Report

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>>18993962
They were usable in the lower tiers, sure. But in OU, they were shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 13:05:22 No.18994117 Report

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>>18993949
Banette greatly, it at least has some niche now compared to how you couldn't do shit with it last gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 13:17:57 No.18994155 Report

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>>18985142
mega evolutions.
they said it's unique to the kalos region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 13:18:49 No.18994158 Report

Quoted By: >>18994195

>No poison damage outside of battle

Fuck yes it's annoying and arbitrary, but it's one of the things that made me notice how casual XY had gotten.

Yes i am aware it's a game for children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 13:25:00 No.18994195 Report

Quoted By: >>18994207

>>18994158
It was nerfed in HGSS and removed in BW, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 13:26:53 No.18994207 Report

Quoted By: >>18994215

>>18994195
>removed in BW, though.
BW or BW2? I played BW and straight up never noticed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 13:28:13 No.18994215 Report

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>>18994207
Yeah. In HGSS, it was nerfed so it'd take a Pokémon down to 1HP. Then in BW, it was changed so there's no poison damage outside battles at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Apr 2014 14:10:54 No.18994395 Report

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>>18986612
That was a good thing.

HP is a bullshit move anyway, and the change makes it a huge buff if you actually want to use it on an ingame team.

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