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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 11:38:14 No.25217658 View View Reply Original Report

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>its a gen 6 Pokemon retards
>gen 6 already datamined
Why is /vp/ so fucking stupid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 11:42:48 No.25217675 Report

Quoted By: >>25217930 >>25218278 >>25225383 >>25230509

>>25217658
Were ORAS megas datamined in XY?
Was Hoopa Unbound datamined in XY?
Were Zygarde formes datamined in XY or ORAS?

No so stop being silly. Anything can happen at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 11:43:31 No.25217678 Report

Quoted By: >>25218492

>muh patterns!
>I'm going to pretend ORAS didn't introduce new moves and abilities and items that weren't datamined in XY!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 11:44:01 No.25217681 Report

Quoted By: >>25217693 >>25217750 >>25217824 >>25218213 >>25218820 >>25218957

>>25217658
/vp/ is so fucking stupid because the only people who would want to associate with the drecks that call this forum this home are also stupid people.

Like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 11:49:28 No.25217693 Report

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>>25217681
>forum
Spot the newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 11:53:20 No.25217699 Report

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I want her to be my stinky mistress

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:05:16 No.25217736 Report

Quoted By: >>25217781 >>25217868

That was before ORAS, when we thought GF wouldn't be as stupid as to make XY incompatible after only a year. Magiana is Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:11:38 No.25217750 Report

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>>25217681
>forum

>>>/9fag/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:27:36 No.25217781 Report

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>>25217736
>incompatible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:29:30 No.25217785 Report

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I want her to be my stinky mistress.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:30:53 No.25217794 Report

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>>25217658

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:34:25 No.25217807 Report

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>>25217781
Sure am Glad my friend who only has Y can play against my team with my Mega Altaria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:39:17 No.25217824 Report

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>>25217681
Faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:45:01 No.25217842 Report

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>>25217658

No anon, you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:46:51 No.25217853 Report

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>>25217807
You can still play with XY people retard. You just cant use the new megas or primals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:52:09 No.25217868 Report

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>>25217736
Show your evidence as to why this isn't exactly what they'd done over the entire history of the franchise, in terms of revealing new generations. Not just "it could be!", actual evidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 12:53:23 No.25217872 Report

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There's already stuff for Z programmed into X and Y, dumbasses. Why would they arbitrarily forget to program a whole Pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 13:13:10 No.25217930 Report

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>>25217675
We've had loads of different formes and megas of existing pokemon through the years - Deoxys formes, Giratina formes, Rotom formes, Notch-Eared Pichu one-off, Cosplay Pikachu one-offs, ORAS megas, etc.

They've never introduced a brand new pokemon though. So I would be inclined to believe it's a gen 7 pokemon for that reason.

(you're right about datamining not meaning everything of course)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 13:20:56 No.25217945 Report

Quoted By: >>25218148

>>25217868
We've been over this. All previous instances are irrelevant. Just because something happened a way before doesn't mean it will happen that way this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 13:22:51 No.25217949 Report

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>>25217658
You're all idiots, it's just Mega Klingklang.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 13:44:20 No.25217996 Report

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I'll just leave this here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:21:26 No.25218101 Report

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I want her to be my stinky mistress

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:36:46 No.25218148 Report

Quoted By: >>25218188

>>25217945
So, the bus you ride every day gets to your stop at 10 am every time. One day, it gets there 10 minutes late. Do you expect your bus to get there 10 minutes late every time now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:39:27 No.25218161 Report

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^^you're my fave

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:40:24 No.25218164 Report

Quoted By: >>25218183

>>25217658
The Pokédex automatically provide this is not a 6th generation Pokémon.

6th generation introduced 72 Pokémon in total.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:44:18 No.25218183 Report

Quoted By: >>25218223

>>25218164
The pokedex is also a pile of lies. It cannot predict the future. They have always been able to add to it at any point in time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:45:25 No.25218188 Report

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>>25218148
True, they don't all do, but it is guaranteed that MOST of them do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:46:02 No.25218192 Report

Quoted By: >>25218230

>>25217658
Could be DLC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:49:31 No.25218208 Report

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It will be 3rd version exclusive, as well as Zygarde's new formes and some new Megas (like Greninja).

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:50:27 No.25218213 Report

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>>25217681
>forum

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:54:05 No.25218223 Report

Quoted By: >>25218251

>>25218183
Nah. The Pokédex is 100% accurate.
It was right about Zygarde forms.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:55:54 No.25218230 Report

Quoted By: >>25219359

>>25218192
You can possibly be this dense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:59:11 No.25218250 Report

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I want her to be my stinky mistress

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 14:59:33 No.25218251 Report

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>>25218223
Sorry. I do not see any part of this that says it is made of countless smaller entities that can each operate individually or that it has certain ones of them that serve to control the others. It also does not say it can come in other forms, either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:06:59 No.25218278 Report

Quoted By: >>25218285 >>25218299

>>25217675
All those are formes anon, not new Pokemon like Magiana is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:07:30 No.25218280 Report

Quoted By: >>25218303 >>25218308 >>25218363

It's pretty simple, GF NEVER added a new pokédex number between games of the same generation.
If they Magiana was a Gen 6 mon it would already be in XY since the release, just like Diancie/Hoopa/Volcanion. People here over thinks certain things sometimes, seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:09:04 No.25218285 Report

Quoted By: >>25218305

>>25218278
I don't think you realize the gravity of the situation. Adding new forms and new pokemon is the same process. There is no difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:11:46 No.25218299 Report

Quoted By: >>25218326

>>25218278
So? You cant use them in XY. If potential Zygarde game would introduce new mon you wouldnt be able to use them in XY or ORAS. Thats all there is to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:12:20 No.25218303 Report

Quoted By: >>25218334

>>25218280
Well, according to them, we're not supposed to know of event pokemon, either. Heck, Mew itself was not even supposed to happen, but it was put in without them knowing, and since they could make money off of it, here we are. If we did not datamine everything, it would be as if they are adding a new number before the gen is over.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:12:43 No.25218305 Report

Quoted By: >>25218334

>>25218285
No, there's a obvious difference, we already had new forms between the Gens 3, 4, 5 and 6, but NEVER a new pokédex number between the same generation, a pokémon with a new name and no relation to old pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:13:07 No.25218308 Report

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>>25218280
We also never had new cities, sequels, new gyms etc mid gen untill BW2 happened.

Your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:16:08 No.25218326 Report

Quoted By: >>25218358

>>25218299
Did that stop them from adding more Megas? Did that stop them from making other forms of Deoxys? Or Shaymin and Giratina? They don't give a rat's ass about compatibility. If you don't have the newest game, you're screwed, simple as that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:17:11 No.25218334 Report

Quoted By: >>25218353

>>25218305
see >>25218303

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:19:04 No.25218352 Report

Quoted By: >>25218371

>future gen Pokemon have been shown via movies every gen
>no one blinks an eye
>same thing happens in gen 6
>HOLY SHIT GEN 6.5 ITS HAPPENING
Every time I come back to this board it gets more stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:19:07 No.25218353 Report

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>>25218334
Also, new pokemon have been revealed before their generation countless times. This should imply a new number, and if you're like me, you wondered why Togepi did not have a number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:19:51 No.25218358 Report

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>>25218326
And what happened with ORAS? If you have jsut XY you're screwed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:20:34 No.25218363 Report

Quoted By: >>25218374 >>25218391 >>25218629 >>25218641 >>25219246

>>25218280
Not to mention that it's been confirmed by Adamant that Magiana is a Mythical Pokemon aka event Pokemon. Unlike formes, event Pokemon are meant to be compatible with every game in their generation. There's no way in hell that TPC is going to make a 6th Gen event Pokemon not be compatible with 2/3 of the games.

The only way maginia is a 6th Gen Pokemon is if GF go back on their word and actually patch her into older games(we all know this isn't happening).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:20:34 No.25218364 Report

Quoted By: >>25218372

"It's not gen 6!!!!" fags are the same people who denied that Fairies were going to be a thing.

Can't wait for them to get utterly btfo again.

Anyone have the compilation of all the people denying Fairy types before X/Y?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:22:06 No.25218371 Report

Quoted By: >>25218389

>>25218352
MUH PATTERNS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:22:16 No.25218372 Report

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>>25218364
you're retarded if you think they are the same things at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:23:01 No.25218374 Report

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>>25218363
I don't know. They might have finally figured out how to subvert us. It's not that hard, you know. In fact, that they left all events in the data to begin with is pants on head retarded when you think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:24:50 No.25218383 Report

Quoted By: >>25218408 >>25218442

How did this stupid Gen 6.5 meme even start? It has no basis whatsoever. This reminds me of the period back during Gen V when this board was convinced that BW2 would have brand new Pokemon, even though like now, they had no ground to stand on when making that claim.

People are BTFO'ing themselves once again. You guys never fucking learn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:25:19 No.25218384 Report

Quoted By: >>25218407

>>25218372

They are, both are based around clinging to pattern autism and performing metal gymnastics to explain why the obvious conclusion isn't the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:26:24 No.25218389 Report

Quoted By: >>25218582 >>25220256

>>25218371
"b-but patterns can be broken" is the most lame cop-out excuse ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:26:48 No.25218391 Report

Quoted By: >>25218920

>>25218363
>actually patch her into older games(we all know this isn't happening).

Why not? Yeah, they've never done it before, but the technology is different than it was in previous generations. There's no reason they couldn't do this.

As this point I think it's 50/50 whether it's Gen VI or VII. Definitely an unusual situation, not to know what generation a Pokemon is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:28:54 No.25218407 Report

Quoted By: >>25218427 >>25218445

>>25218384
Fairy type had nothing to do with patterns

The major difference between the two is that fairy had heaps of rumors that made it very likely while "gen 6.5" is random speculation based on nothing

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:29:04 No.25218408 Report

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>>25218383
News fags my friend, they lurk for a week a thinks that understand everything to spout half assed shit with no base.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:29:10 No.25218409 Report

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I think it's possible that they wised up and stopped putting data for event pokemon in games before they actually release them. That being said, I think it's equally likely to be gen VII even if it does seem premature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:30:33 No.25218427 Report

Quoted By: >>25218452 >>25218467

>>25218407

Who said anything about gen 6.5? That's a fucking stupid idea.

It's just an event legendary that will be a Z exclusive.

>But they only make forms exclusive!

and here we have the pattern autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:33:09 No.25218442 Report

Quoted By: >>25218455 >>25218469 >>25218492

>>25218383
>This reminds me of the period back during Gen V when this board was convinced that BW2 would have brand new Pokemon

I don't recall anyone thinking that. Gen V already had a lot of new Pokemon, I don't think speculation about new Pokemon in BW2 was even on the table. Are you sure you're not mixing it up with ORAS or early Z speculation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:33:46 No.25218445 Report

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>>25218407

I saw people claim that Fairy couldn't happen because they would only introduce two new types like before if they ever did at all.

Also people claiming it would never happen because it had been so long since gen 2 and gen 4 made the most sense to introduce new types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:35:08 No.25218452 Report

Quoted By: >>25218471 >>25218472

>>25218427
>pattern
The fundamental structure of the series that's lasted 20 years isn't just a pattern, you retard. There's nothing here suggesting new Pokemon will suddenly be added mid-gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:35:37 No.25218455 Report

Quoted By: >>25218473

>>25218442
There was this whole copypasta going around about how it would be set in a region based off of london with new starters and nothing else new. I believe it's where cactowl came from

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:37:17 No.25218467 Report

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>>25218427
yes just because d/p and b/w had the pokedex complete just like their respective sequels that doesnt mean Z cant have an additional legendary + gen 6 didnt have so many legendaries(which I liked) and the 100 across the board legendary. but yes if it could still be a gen 7 mon. Time will tell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:38:29 No.25218469 Report

Quoted By: >>25218483

>>25218442
You're ignorant. They want EVERY new game to have new pokemon. The fandom has always been like this. I'm pretty sure they even wanted it in Emerald, but I don't remember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:38:52 No.25218471 Report

Quoted By: >>25218489

>>25218452
We never had double battles until we got them
We never had triple battles until we got them
We never had mega evolutions until we got them
We never got direct sequels until we got them
We never had a simultaneous worldwide release until we got one

The fact that it hasn't happened before is not proof that it can't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:39:04 No.25218472 Report

Quoted By: >>25218489 >>25218501

>>25218452

Besides the fact that it's still going to be at least a year and a half until we get gen 7 and there's another game confirmed to be released before that you mean?

Why would they start marketing gen 7 before even officially announcing Z?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:39:30 No.25218473 Report

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>>25218455

Copypasta isn't serious speculation. I was really into the BW2 hype, and I'm pretty sure that nobody ever seriously thought that there would be new starters, much less a new region. And I thought the London thing was in reference to people who didn't think XY was France, not to a potential Gen V expansion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:43:29 No.25218483 Report

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>>25218469

You're attributing the irrational hopes of a small portion of the fanbase to everyone. Yes, some people may have said "I bet BW2 will have new Pokemon!" But almost everyone knew it wouldn't happen, and as I said, I don't recall there being any widespread theory that there would be. It was a few crazy people at most, not a common fanbase expectation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:44:43 No.25218489 Report

Quoted By: >>25218524 >>25218540 >>25218917

>>25218471
Those are additional features to the games and have nothing to do with patterns (except BW2 not being grey which isn't anything to do with gameplay). I've no idea where you're even going with this

>>25218472
Holy shit how new are you to this series, new Pokemon getting shown before the gen is announced always happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:45:38 No.25218492 Report

Quoted By: >>25218515

>>25217678
The moves and abilities are the big thing here that people forget. That was completely unprecedented. We've had new forms and items mid-gen before but never new moves and abilities. A new Pokémon could be handled the same way if they really wanted to do it, so it's not flat-out impossible, and anyone who says it absolutely can't happen because "hurr durr it never happened before!" is clearly retarded.

Having said that I still think it's a gen 7 mon because gen 6.5 is what literally everyone wants, and Game Freak never gives people what they want. Look what happened with the Frontier in ORAS. I think the gen 6.5 fags are setting themselves up for disappointment to be honest family. It's wishful thinking and nothing more.

>>25218442
>he doesn't remember cactowl

anon pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:47:01 No.25218501 Report

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>>25218472
>Why would they start marketing gen 7 before even officially announcing Z?

Happens all the time. They always introduce new Pokemon before officially announcing the new generation. Hell, they were marketing Gen IV Pokemon barely a year into the start of Gen III.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:48:46 No.25218515 Report

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>>25218492
>he doesn't remember cactowl

Of course I remember Cactowl. What I don't remember is anyone taking it seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:51:14 No.25218524 Report

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>>25218489
The point is Gamefreak doesn't give a shit about precedent. You're proving yourself to be a patternsfag even more by asserting that only game feature precedents can be subverted. It's not outside the realm of possibility that they add a new pokemon mid gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:52:46 No.25218540 Report

Quoted By: >>25218616 >>25219187

>>25218489

>you are new! lel

This stands out as odd even among the other early announced Pokemon because Z still hasn't even been revealed.

All the others were shown right at the end of the generation after all the games were out and done with pretty much.

Gen 2 mons don't really count since they were leftovers from Gen 1

There was the Muchlax in XD which was the last game in the generation

Then there was Zoroark right before HG/SS came out, and B/W came out that very same year.

It doesn't make any sense for them to reveal a gen 7 mon before gen 6 is even close to being finished. We've got another year at least before gen 7's even announced.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 15:57:04 No.25218561 Report

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>>25217658
hey fucktards
Z is coming
and magiana is a gen 7 pokemon
gamefreak has done this before
munchlax was revealed on may of 2004
and emerald was revealed in july

the existence of magiana doesnt stop Z at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:01:34 No.25218582 Report

Quoted By: >>25219165

>>25218389
>patterns get broken starting with Gen IV and commonly happened for Gen V
>"b-but patterns can be broken" is the most lame cop-out excuse ever
It's not a cop out, it's a reality. It's not LIKELY to be broken based on known statistics if they happen consistently enough, but it does happen. In this case for this generation, GF has taken a more active development approach and left total compatibility between a generation and even between past generations behind. They could certainly add a new dex number if they pleased. There's nothing stopping them.

Of course, pokemon from future gens often make their debuts in movies and other pokemon media, so that's also a possibility. This generation skewing towards releasing games with new content that is not accessible by the last is also a realistic probability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:08:22 No.25218616 Report

Quoted By: >>25218639 >>25218732

>>25218540
>There was the Muchlax in XD which was the last game in the generation

That was a spinoff, and Munchlax was announced before Emerald anyway.

>b-but that was one time

And new Pokémon in a main series game mid-gen has happened zero times. Stay delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:11:02 No.25218629 Report

Quoted By: >>25219147

>>25218363
You're just accommodating words to make your argument.
GameFreak doesn't owe you shit, they want you to buy the new game. So, if you want fucking Magiana, you go and buy the new game. They don't have to patch fucking anything.

Also, making it mythical means it's just as likely to be added right after the Zygarde and Volcanion formes, and that's that. No need to change any prior numbers.

What I think GameFreak is going to pull here, and I really hope so, is that they're gonna deliver the part of the map we missed in XY AND the pokémon we were "missing", considering XY had a ridiculously small amount of new 'mons.

A man can dream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:13:18 No.25218639 Report

Quoted By: >>25218649

>>25218616
>And new Pokémon in a main series game mid-gen has happened zero times

True, but they got pretty close to this with the ORAS megas...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:13:35 No.25218641 Report

Quoted By: >>25218670

>>25218363
who the fuck is adamant
some hacker or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:13:57 No.25218643 Report

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hi everyone my name is john gamefreak and i have came to this forum to dispel all the rumors.

pokemon Z will be released in july this year and the new games featuring mangina will be released in 2017

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:15:04 No.25218649 Report

Quoted By: >>25218664 >>25218675

>>25218639
Mega Evolution is far from being the same as a new Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:17:01 No.25218664 Report

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>>25218649

You're right, it's not the same. But it's definitely a step in that direction, isn't it? Who's to say they can't take another step that way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:18:44 No.25218670 Report

Quoted By: >>25218700

>>25218641
I'm not the anon you're asking, but Adamant is the person(along with their team) who does the anime subbing and translates any Japenese Pokemon material like Corocoro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:21:20 No.25218675 Report

Quoted By: >>25218738

>>25218649
Data-wise, Megas are basically new Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:23:45 No.25218688 Report

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I'm reminded of the BW3 vs R/S remake vs new gen debate at the end of gen 5. It was an odd time for all of us, not helped by how odd the promotions had become at that point in time. It was not settled until an announcement came from nowhere. Until that happens, none of us know what's going on, but it desperately needs to happen. Nothing ever happens in the way that we expect it to, though. They could come out at any moment and tell us what the next game is. That is why I am interested in what's going to happen on Coro Coro's REAL release date. We will certainly have a global reveal on Magiana, but it would be impossible to hide what that means. They could still delay anything for who knows how long, but it is only a matter of time. The early year is not known for being good to us, but even acknowledging it would be enough. The debate won't end until we have a title, though. It would also be a global reveal, but like I said, it could happen at any time. I just want an end to what is going on with Zygarde and why the anime decided to do things this way.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:25:56 No.25218700 Report

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>>25218670
>anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:32:00 No.25218732 Report

Quoted By: >>25218760

>>25218616
>new Pokémon in a main series game mid-gen has happened zero times.
>anything other than a single enhanced version after the first two mainline games in a single generation has happened zero times.
>anything other than a color for a pokemon game's version name has happened zero times.
Yeah, because gamefreak always does shit the same way every single time. I bet you thought when XY came out there'd be a local-network based way to transfer from the last gen too, huh? Or that Gen III would certainly have a way to transfer in Gen II pokemon. Don't be fucking stupid. The pokemon fanbase is so fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:32:52 No.25218738 Report

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>>25218675
That's literally, objectively wrong. And I'm not misusing either of those words. That statement is just factually incorrect. Data-wise, Megas are identical to non-Mega form changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:38:15 No.25218760 Report

Quoted By: >>25218769 >>25218773

>>25218732
>thinks something that's never happened is more likely than something that did happen
>calls other people stupid

His entire argument was "they've never announced a next-gen Pokémon this early, except all those times that they did, those don't count because that would make me wrong, so it's obviously gen 6 because I said so". I'm not the stupid one here, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:40:57 No.25218769 Report

Quoted By: >>25218953

>>25218760
You know, I'm curious. Analysis mode activate, be back later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:42:03 No.25218773 Report

Quoted By: >>25218989

>>25218760
>I'm not the stupid one here, faggot.
You're both fucking stupid, but you much much more so than him.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 16:53:08 No.25218820 Report

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>>25217681
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Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:05:58 No.25218875 Report

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It may be Gen 6, it may not be.
I don't get why anyone would be so stuck on whether or not it's a Gen 6 or 7 Pokemon, there's a chance it could be either.

No one fucking knows at this point, so acting like you do is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:15:34 No.25218917 Report

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>>25218489

>Holy shit how new are you to this series, new Pokemon getting shown before the gen is announced always happens

The last time that happened to a noticeable extent was in 2004, nearly 12 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:15:51 No.25218920 Report

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>>25218391
Because then they would have patched new mega into oras

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:21:57 No.25218953 Report

Quoted By: >>25218998 >>25219892 >>25225133 >>25225392 >>25231893 >>25232425

>>25218769
Gen 1
Start: 2/27/96
Ho-oh appears: 4/1/97

Time: 1 year, 1 month, 5 days

Gen 2:
start: 11/21/99
Kecleon appears: 7/5/01

Time: 1 year, 7 months, 14 days

Gen 3:
start: 11/21/02
Munchlax: 7/17/04

Time: 1 year, 7 months, 26 days

Gen 4:
start: 9/28/06
Zoroark/Zorua: 2/10/10

Time: 3 years, 4 months, 13 days

Gen 5:
start: 9/18/10
6 starters/legends: 1/8/13

Time: 2 years, 3 months, 21 days.

Gen 6:
start: 10/12/13
Magiana: 2/10/16

Time: 2 years, 3 months, 29 days

Assessment: Not even close to being the fastest, not even in comparison to last gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:23:28 No.25218957 Report

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>>25217681
Easy bait here apparently

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:31:29 No.25218988 Report

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>>25217658
How do you even datamine a 3DS game? I thought that only happened to PC games

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:31:40 No.25218989 Report

Quoted By: >>25219096

>>25218773
Please explain why "it's not a gen 6 mon because they've never introduced new mons mid-gen before" is "much much more stupid" than "it's a gen 6 mon because they've never introduced a next-gen mon before the last game of the current gen (except when they did, but that doesn't count)". That's right, you can't, because it's not. I have precedent, he has nothing but "muh only 70 new mons, muh gen 6.5" wishful thinking bullshit.

I don't know why it's so hard to understand that "they broke patterns before" doesn't mean "any and every pattern I want them to break will be broken and you're dumb for thinking otherwise even though there's no evidence for it". I could say they're releasing FRLG remakes for the anniversary and that would be just as likely as Magiana being a gen 6 mon. And you can't argue against it because they've broken patterns before, so they can do it again! :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:35:04 No.25218998 Report

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>>25218953
You're the kind of autistic anon I'd like to hang out with.
(unless you correct my messed up grammar used above)

I've been wondering about those dates since people started to spew Munchlax and Togepi as arguments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:38:08 No.25219015 Report

Quoted By: >>25219201

>>25217658

>red diamond eyes
>wasp body
>bunny ears
>pink

Are you sure, that this is not just a Diancie form?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:45:23 No.25219065 Report

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>>25217658
Frankly I hope so, if only so they buck the trend and add more gen 6 regular mon.

Yes I'm a z fag and I'm one because if they don't fix the faults with 6 it means that's us from now on. Gen 7 will have all the same crap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:51:06 No.25219096 Report

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>>25218989
>Please explain why
Because you're much more firmly convinced of your own bullshit than he is.

Just because x has happened consecutively doesn't mean it is going to happen again, and just because y has never happened before does not mean it will not occur. This isn't observing natural phenomena, this is speculation of a fucking game. Neither position is valid firmly, but you're actually claiming a "trend" as evidence when it isn't and putting needless faith that "trends" can't be broken just because into your assertion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:54:02 No.25219113 Report

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Why people forget that GF introduces new pokemon every game?
Just because you datamined them, they officially don't exist until the movie or the game comes out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 17:57:33 No.25219134 Report

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>>25217658
mangina is not for waifu

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:00:14 No.25219147 Report

Quoted By: >>25219196 >>25219272 >>25219309 >>25219347

>>25218629
Why doesn't this sound reasonable to so many people? They introduced new Megas that were ORAS exclusive, literally fucking up compatibility between games within the same gen, and they did so only to give people another reason to buy that God-awful game; they just want money, that's why Magiana being a Gen 6.5 doesn't seem that illogical: you want to take part in the new meta, filled with "Z" exclusive Megas and Mons? Buy the fucking new game, asshole: no patch, no compatibility with your other Gen 6 games. Please understand.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:00:41 No.25219150 Report

Quoted By: >>25219191 >>25219214

>>25217996
wat does it mean?

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Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:04:00 No.25219165 Report

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>>25218582
>In this case for this generation, GF has taken a more active development approach and left total compatibility between a generation and even between past generations behind. They could certainly add a new dex number if they pleased. There's nothing stopping them.

Someone with rational thought? On /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:05:49 No.25219175 Report

Quoted By: >>25219210 >>25219244

>>25217658
How the fuck can you think this a gen 7 pokemon when it specifically states it has a relationship with Volcanion, a gen 6 pokemon? Do you people actually think we'll get gen 7 without getting Zygarde forms in a game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:07:21 No.25219187 Report

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>>25218540
>Then there was Zoroark right before HG/SS came out, and B/W came out that very same year.

HG/SS came out in September 2009 in Japan. You're referring to its international release, which was in 2010, and to B/W Japanese release, which was in the same year.

So, you're going back and forth between international and Japanese dates. That should be enough to show how lacking your point is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:07:56 No.25219191 Report

Quoted By: >>25219214

>>25219150
It's from the analysis some card site found. They claim that every month is named after a significant event from either the cards themselves, or the main games.
New friends therefore, could be a hint of new pokémon and a new game release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:08:26 No.25219196 Report

Quoted By: >>25219262

>>25219147
Thats true and even though im still more convinced Magiana is 7th gen i do agree that anything can happen at this point and any patterns dont matter that much since GF broke so many

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:08:51 No.25219201 Report

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>>25219081
>>25219015

Could you stop posting the same shit in every 7th gen pokemon thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:10:36 No.25219210 Report

Quoted By: >>25223329

>>25219175
Dude, let me shit on your argument by pointing the direct relationship between Celebi and Zorua.

Were those in the same generation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:10:56 No.25219214 Report

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>>25219150
>>25219191
More importantly, the last 2 are Steam (Volcanion?) and Gear (Magiana?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:16:21 No.25219244 Report

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>>25219175
>Regigigas and the Regis

I don't think Magiana is a Gen VII, but your argument doesn't necessarily make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:16:31 No.25219246 Report

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>>25218363
>Unlike formes, event Pokemon are meant to be compatible with every game in their generation.
I dunno, man. We've had events before that only work with the most recent game in a generation. Sure, you could trade them back into older games if you wanted to badly enough, but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:18:38 No.25219262 Report

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>>25219196
I'm that guy, and thank you for your intellectual honesty. That being said, I don't see a Gen 6.5 happening, but I do believe Magiana is a "Z" event-exclusive, and that this same game will introduce several Megas, new formes and maybe some other gimmicky mythical bitch, for good measure.

Just saying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:20:00 No.25219272 Report

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>>25219147
>Why doesn't this sound reasonable to so many people?

You must be new here, anon-kun...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:26:16 No.25219309 Report

Quoted By: >>25219516

>>25219147
>They introduced new Megas that were ORAS exclusive, literally fucking up compatibility between games within the same gen

Was there ever a generation when the games released within it werent compatible like XY isnt compatible with ORAS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:31:34 No.25219347 Report

Quoted By: >>25219389

>>25219147
>They introduced new Megas that were ORAS exclusive, literally fucking up compatibility between games within the same gen, a
This alone ought to be enough to quell all this Gen 7 motherfuckery, and ESPECIALLY not to rely on datamining, of all things. GF has actively given the finger to both dataminers AND customers with previous games.

There's so much content that can be shoved into a "Z", it'd be silly to not make them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:33:37 No.25219359 Report

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>>25218230
Like a neutron star.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:41:00 No.25219389 Report

Quoted By: >>25219406

>>25219347
>There's so much content that can be shoved into a "Z", it'd be silly to not make them

Like what faggot theres only forms, megas and Magiana

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:43:39 No.25219406 Report

Quoted By: >>25219423 >>25219431

>>25219389
And what kinds of things are usually added into third games, dumbass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:46:24 No.25219423 Report

Quoted By: >>25219432

>>25219406
Go back to your simulators.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:47:24 No.25219431 Report

Quoted By: >>25219527

>>25219406
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah faggot mad cause he has a point hahahahahahahahahahah BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 18:47:27 No.25219432 Report

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>>25219423
>That weak ass retort
Somebody just got told

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 19:06:28 No.25219516 Report

Quoted By: >>25219648 >>25219708

>>25219309
Never. Even during the IV or V, when Pl/HG/SS and B2/W2 introduced new formes for certain Pokémon that weren't obtainable in the previous games of that same Gen, battle was still possibile: the previous installment would view the standard form of the Pokémon, but the stats would be the ones of the new form.

So, yeah, if I recall things right, XY/ORAS not complete compatibility is a first-time in the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 19:08:38 No.25219527 Report

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>>25219431
Not him, but I don't honestly see his point: he's saying that forms, Megas and a mythical Pokémon (which means it will be event-exclusive) doesn't seem good to be put in a third game. Which is objectively wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 19:27:47 No.25219648 Report

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>>25219516
So now i really wouldnt be surprised of Z introducing new mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 19:38:40 No.25219708 Report

Quoted By: >>25219778

>>25219516
Technically speaking, in Gen IV you couldn't transfer over acorn balls to DPP as an item. That's a very minor thing though and not related to actual pokemon themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 19:48:02 No.25219763 Report

Quoted By: >>25227066

>>25217658
Five hundred dollars says Z or whatever is just assets from ORAS and XY plus Zygarde forms, Volcanion and Magiana, along with same 3d models and animations its going to be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 19:50:56 No.25219778 Report

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>>25219708
Yeah, didn't remember it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 20:09:26 No.25219892 Report

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>>25218953
Good work anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Feb 2016 21:14:36 No.25220256 Report

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>>25218389
How is it an excuse when it has literally happened throughout all this generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 03:50:58 No.25223159 Report

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>>25217658
True. 6th generation introduced 72 species of Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 04:16:12 No.25223329 Report

Quoted By: >>25225204

>>25219210
what was the connection between Celebi and Zorua?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 11:26:59 No.25225133 Report

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>>25218953
now this is the kind of post I like seeing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 11:56:09 No.25225204 Report

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>>25223329
Didn't you see the movie, anon?
And more importantly, since said movie release was so close to BW, there was this promo where you'd get a special Celebi that would unlock Zorua once BW games were released.

Point was, even though the movie connected them in a special way, they were still a whole generation apart.
Still, I believe most signs point that Magiana will be showing up in our hypothetical Z games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 13:20:39 No.25225383 Report

Quoted By: >>25225394

>>25217675
Its far more plausible this is the munchlax of this generation as munchlax was to gen 3 (it was revealed in 2004 before emerald was announced for japan). It figures they'd do this again this generation as gen 3 was remade in gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 13:24:39 No.25225392 Report

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>>25218953
Quality fucking work m8, props to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 13:26:13 No.25225394 Report

Quoted By: >>25227044 >>25227073

>>25225383
Nah, they stopped leaving us with nothing but a few pokemon to stare at ages ago. When completely new things are shown, they will eventually reveal a new game within a few months tops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 18:47:18 No.25227027 Report

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>>25217658
Nigga, you know this won't go nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 18:49:40 No.25227044 Report

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>>25225394
Thats why they revealed Zygfarde game?

Oh wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 18:52:28 No.25227066 Report

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>>25219763

Haven't they spent a little too much time on it for it just to be that? I think they sorta have to break the pattern here. If Mangina is a new Pokemon and in Z (which it certainly should, seeing as they've never announced a later gen Pokemon before all current are available), then I can see them expanding the dex a little bit. Why the fuck not? Sales are dropping and people can smell the formula a mile away

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 18:53:28 No.25227073 Report

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>>25225394
I would agree with you, but Gamefreak seems to have fucked with all past patterns in the recent few years. I don't think any of us can say what they're going to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Feb 2016 19:15:23 No.25227221 Report

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It's clearly related to Carbink and Diancie
Its design is French is fuck (Marie Antoinette etc)
Azoth Kingdom is clearly some sort of steam punk city, tied with Volcanion, both of which it shares in a movie and is mentioned in ORAS. Also, the term "Azoth" relates to XY lore.

People, it's 6th gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 02:38:36 No.25230366 Report

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>>25217658
Because you are here, clearly. Redundant question is redundant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 02:55:09 No.25230509 Report

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>>25217675
>Were ORAS megas datamined in XY?

No, because they didn't exist in the code, dipshite. They were ORAS exclusive...and still are for some stupid reason.
>GF, is it really that hard to just patch that shit in?

Anyway, as far as the other two are concerned...

Not sure about hoopa unbound.

The Zygarde forms weren't datamined because, oh yeah, they don't exist in the games' code either. Granted they did find two moves with animations that look like they would fit on a zygarde.

I don't know what to make of the new poke, but if I had to guess, I'd say it's either gen 7 or their gonna pull an "ORAS" and make exclusive forms along with 'a new pokemon' for the Z release, and it will be Z exclusive. Just like how the ORAS megas are ORAS exclusive.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 03:00:11 No.25230537 Report

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Its a new pokemon, that means new gen. Fucking retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 03:18:55 No.25230701 Report

Quoted By: >>25231850

A hundred bucks Magiana is a ??? numbered pokemon in the next game, meaning it will likely trigger an event in the game after.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 05:34:50 No.25231850 Report

Quoted By: >>25231878

>>25230701
Betting on this most likely happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 05:40:17 No.25231875 Report

Quoted By: >>25231899 >>25231945

I think it's pretty likely that we'll see a few new Pokemon added in whatever Gen 6's third main version is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 05:40:38 No.25231878 Report

Quoted By: >>25231898

>>25231850
>not implying
Wanna bet?

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Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 05:43:58 No.25231893 Report

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>>25218953
God damn, you beat me to it. I was just doing this on some cheap timeline software. (Hard nostalgia browsing through 2008 Serebii archives for Corocoro Plat reveal)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 05:44:53 No.25231898 Report

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>>25231878
I'll take that bet. After that dumbass TM 95 shit and zoroark in BW, I wouldn't put it past them to include a ??? pokemon in Z or XY2 or whatever that triggers some shit in the following game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 05:44:52 No.25231899 Report

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>>25231875
No. Likely just mega evolution forms.
No new Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 05:55:05 No.25231945 Report

Quoted By: >>25231956

>>25231875
Thanks, captain obvious. That's a given at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 05:57:34 No.25231956 Report

Quoted By: >>25232114 >>25232223

>>25231945
There is no new Pokémon coming in the Sequel to Pokémon X and Y.

Possibly just more mega evolution forms and Zygarde forms but no new Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 06:29:09 No.25232114 Report

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>>25231956
>There is no new Pokémon coming in the Sequel to Pokémon X and Y.

Says who

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Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 06:52:00 No.25232223 Report

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>>25231956
>There is no new Pokémon coming in the Sequel to Pokémon X and Y.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Feb 2016 07:23:56 No.25232425 Report

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>>25218953
Ho-oh was announced before the anime started. Hell, there's even a Corocoro article announcing the anime that talks about how it might tie into the story of "Pokemon 2", using a picture of Ho-oh to illustrate.

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