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Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:28:33 No.26834234 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26834253 >>26834335 >>26834637 >>26834671 >>26835163 >>26835308 >>26835345 >>26835385 >>26835485 >>26836178

Is there a more cancerous Pokemon in OU?

Special sweeper fairies and Zard Y are the only Pokemon that can reliably beat this thing, and it helps perpetuate the cancer that is stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:30:19 No.26834253 Report

Quoted By: >>26835694

>>26834234
Talonflame probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:40:57 No.26834335 Report

Quoted By: >>26834375 >>26835120 >>26835143

>>26834234
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 8 Def / 200 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Roost

Just don't switch on it on a Will-O-Wisp and you'll be beating stall in no time, specially if they run Clefable as their unaware wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:44:18 No.26834365 Report

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Landorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 17:45:34 No.26834375 Report

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>>26834335
>tfw your gliscor gets burned and you have no cleric

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:01:41 No.26834523 Report

Quoted By: >>26834558 >>26834569 >>26834909 >>26835061

>le Thunder Wave faec
>le Calm Mind faec

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:04:23 No.26834558 Report

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>>26834523
>My stat boosts work but yours don't :^D
Literally that kid on the playground

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:05:08 No.26834569 Report

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>>26834523
>Thunder Wave
>Mega-Sableye

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:09:41 No.26834614 Report

Quoted By: >>26834657

Unaware b& when? I fucking hate all of those Quagsires.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:13:08 No.26834637 Report

Quoted By: >>26834666

>>26834234
Both Zards beat it. It can't burn X, and Y just nukes it.
>252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 112 Def Mega Sableye: 192-226 (63.1 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 144+ SpD Mega Sableye in Sun: 225-265 (74 - 87.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
And becuase I know someone is going to go "Muh Foul Play!"
>+1 0 Atk Mega Sableye Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard X: 211-250 (71 - 84.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:16:11 No.26834657 Report

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>>26834614
Substitute Seperior. The only things on stall that can really stop it are healthy Clefable and Amoongus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:17:40 No.26834666 Report

Quoted By: >>26834873 >>26838745

>>26834637
First turn:
>Flare Blitz
>Recover

Second turn:
>Flare Blitz
>Foul Play

M-Sableye wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:18:06 No.26834671 Report

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>>26834234
Chansey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:40:58 No.26834873 Report

Quoted By: >>26841323

>>26834666
>Satan doesn't know how to click DD and then kill.
Sad desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:44:25 No.26834909 Report

Quoted By: >>26835134

>>26834523
I thought unaware disregards Clefable's boosts too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 18:58:15 No.26835061 Report

Quoted By: >>26835610

>>26834523

>Thunderwave
>Against a Pokémon with magic bounce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:05:08 No.26835120 Report

Quoted By: >>26835388

>>26834335

Gliscor is somewhat reliable vs it, though not completely because of foul play. So I wouldn't count on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:06:06 No.26835134 Report

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>>26834909
Nope, that's one of many reasons why Unaware is annoying. Clefable can use Calm Mind and Quagire can use Curse

Alphaville !!TORtoOQMEfy

Alphaville !!TORtoOQMEfy Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:06:39 No.26835143 Report

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>>26834335
the chemo.
it actually beats most of the pokemon mentioned ITT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:08:27 No.26835163 Report

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>>26834234
MSableye also centralizes stall heavily and forces its usage unless you want to lose to any other MSableye stall team. Really gross mon no matter which side you are on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:22:35 No.26835308 Report

Quoted By: >>26835507

>>26834234
Fuck you, Sableye is a premier stall breaker, don't blame the current obsesion with stall on this qt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:26:56 No.26835345 Report

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>>26834234
git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:32:38 No.26835385 Report

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>>26834234
Sabeleye is fine. Literally just use either a powerful fire type or a fairy type. Landorus-T and Chansey are the ones that shouldn't be around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:33:21 No.26835388 Report

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>>26835120
Foul play is still a 3HKO at +2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:43:04 No.26835485 Report

Quoted By: >>26836133 >>26838548

>>26834234
I started running the screaming fairies on my team, and sableye hasn't been any trouble sense.

DESU, to be set for OU, you need: a screaming fairy (preferably with specs or calm mind), a decent enough fire type to scare away your fairy counters, and something to deal with Lando-T....good luck with that last one...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:45:12 No.26835507 Report

Quoted By: >>26835934 >>26835967

>>26835308
Well, it ended up becoming what it once broke.

A fucking cancerous piece of stalling shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 19:54:54 No.26835610 Report

Quoted By:

>>26835061
fucking kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 20:04:00 No.26835694 Report

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>>26834253
ok you underage fucks here we go

this is a new meme

spread it

or dont

fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 20:09:10 No.26835735 Report

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The answer is always Chansey/Blissey, they've been a cancer in competitive pokemon since gen1.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 20:28:52 No.26835934 Report

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>>26835507
Again, that's what stallfags run. Just like gliscor is a stallbreaker with stall potential, sableye is just that. Just because assholes run it as a stallmon doesn't mean it is one. Hell, it is better as a stallbreaker than a stallmon itself, and given its ability swap that is probably what GF had in mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 20:31:37 No.26835967 Report

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>>26835507
>M-Sableye was made to stop stallmons
>Ended up becoming one of the best stallmons
>"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 20:42:46 No.26836133 Report

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>>26835485
REMOVE GENIES
REEEEEE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jun 2016 20:48:02 No.26836178 Report

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>>26834234
Don't you shit talk my wife

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 00:48:24 No.26838538 Report

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Do you guys have any ideas for a physical M-sableye set? I feel like a power-up-punch set with recover could have some potential and I've always loved offensive more than stall

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 00:50:08 No.26838548 Report

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>>26835485
Weavile reporting for anti-lando-T duty

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 00:50:21 No.26838552 Report

Quoted By: >>26838576

People who hate stall are incredibly autistic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 00:53:24 No.26838576 Report

Quoted By: >>26838591

>>26838552
>Anybody who doesn't want to play 60 turns against my team of pokemon that have no attacks
Stall is not the sin of the century, but you're fucking stupid if you think people are not allowed to dislike such an annoying strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 00:55:43 No.26838591 Report

Quoted By: >>26838654

>>26838576
You're allowed to dislike it, but to treat a completely normal part of the game as if it is the cancer killing it, is completely autistic.

And the entire argument for "but the battles are sooooo long" is completely garbage. Why do you want the battle to end so quickly? Just to get into another battle? What is the enjoyment in that over the same battle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 01:00:59 No.26838654 Report

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>>26838591
I feel as if stall is a valuable strategy, and it should be, but people are not wrong to say its overcentralizing when stall is the best strategy.

Out of the top teams right now, most of them are stall sets, which results in most lower level players seeking success turn to stall, and it becomes a chore.

Battling should present diversity. It should test you to use strategies effectively and adapt. The stall team perpetuation only works to eliminate that aspect little by little. Itsalmost as the time the top 10 teams were the exact same.

Again, I think stall is a valid strategy, and I can find fun in battling with, or against a stall team, but you have to admit its becoming a cancerous stain in the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 01:06:12 No.26838705 Report

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A mon more cancerous? Hm...

Eviolite Fucking chansey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 01:10:54 No.26838745 Report

Quoted By: >>26838770 >>26841323

>>26834666
>Not Dragon Dancing in the first turn
>Not one-shotting the riot shield Hopkinsville Goblin

Step up, Satan-senpai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 01:14:22 No.26838770 Report

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>>26838745
>Riot shield Hopskinsville Goblin
I love that name, if only there was no limit to nickname length

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jun 2016 06:21:42 No.26841323 Report

Quoted By:

>>26834873
>>26838745
>Switch Charizard in
>Get smacked by Foul Play
ggnore

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