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Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:31:20 No.27503510 View View Reply Original Report

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Who was the champion before Blue beat Lance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:31:44 No.27503517 Report

Quoted By: >>27515279

>>27503510
Lance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:32:26 No.27503536 Report

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>>27503510
There was no champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:32:29 No.27503538 Report

Quoted By: >>27503568

>>27503510
Do you mean who was the champion lance beat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:33:36 No.27503568 Report

Quoted By: >>27504943 >>27515837

>>27503538

Probably Giovanni.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:34:56 No.27503600 Report

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>>27503510
It's a mystery
Still bothers me, I would assume the idea was that there was no Champion before Blue beat the Elite 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:35:53 No.27503613 Report

Quoted By: >>27505237

Agatha or oak

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:37:38 No.27503653 Report

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>>27503510
Bluetwo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:38:04 No.27503662 Report

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>blue

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:38:46 No.27503682 Report

Quoted By: >>27503726 >>27506771 >>27508320

>>27503510
There wasn't a champion
If you check Oak's computer it mentions the league just recently opened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:40:40 No.27503726 Report

Quoted By: >>27506348 >>27511374

>>27503682
Kind of explains why some generations have shit champions.
Some faggot trained their pokes to a high level and claimed the champion title.
Thats why there are some shit champs like Iris and Diantha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:43:33 No.27503793 Report

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>>27503510
The Pokemon League was a new establishment at the time, so there was no prior Champion. The email on Oak's computer reads like an advertisement for a new and exciting challenge for all Pokemon trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 18:56:18 No.27504057 Report

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They were undefeated

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 19:43:21 No.27504927 Report

Quoted By: >>27505237

Oak. That's why he's allowed in the room at the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 19:44:18 No.27504943 Report

Quoted By: >>27504988

>>27503568
Who was the champion before Giovanni?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 19:45:59 No.27504988 Report

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>>27504943
Blaine duh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 19:51:58 No.27505140 Report

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>>27503510
None. I'd imagine that the dev's concept at the time was just an Elite Four, and beating them made him the Champion.

It wasn't until 2nd Gen that an Elite Four and Champion was the standard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 19:56:10 No.27505237 Report

Quoted By: >>27505441

>>27503613
>>27504927
Oak was not the OG champion. He was actually intended to be the final boss.

There exists battle data on the rom for a match vs Oak where he uses the starter neither you or Blue wanted, and a well-rounded team aside from that similar to Blue's but higher level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 19:59:01 No.27505297 Report

Quoted By: >>27505540

Who was in the cave before Red?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 20:05:33 No.27505441 Report

Quoted By: >>27506243

>>27505237
Fuck, so much wasted potential, that could have lead all the game to have a fight with the professor
I'm really pissed that Sicamore just had the Kanto starters final evo and not a real team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 20:10:34 No.27505540 Report

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>>27505297
Trogg: The Caveman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 20:32:56 No.27505958 Report

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Oak, but he retired leaving the position empty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 20:48:59 No.27506243 Report

Quoted By: >>27506595

>>27505441
W-what?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 20:53:56 No.27506348 Report

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>>27503726
>Iris
>shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 20:54:25 No.27506359 Report

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>>27503510
The game explicitly says that there was no champion before blue. When you beat lance in R/B/Y he says "Congratulations, you're the champion! Or at least you would be, if someone hadn't beaten the league before you" (paraphrasing)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 20:59:56 No.27506484 Report

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if you watch the origins anime the hall of fame room has a wall of paintings of all the champions

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 21:02:11 No.27506544 Report

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>>27503510
He died in the war

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 21:04:55 No.27506595 Report

Quoted By: >>27507443

>>27506243
Sorry for the broken english, I was saying that if Oak was the final boss back in RBY, we would have a battle in each game with the professor of the game. I really liked the fact that you can fight Sycamore in XY, but his team was really shitty

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 21:13:13 No.27506771 Report

Quoted By: >>27507510 >>27508395 >>27511042 >>27511173

>>27503682
In the Pokemon Origins, there were other trainers who won the Pokemon League but never remained as champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 21:45:10 No.27507443 Report

Quoted By: >>27508372 >>27511328 >>27511409

>>27506595
Yeah your english was fine, I didnt know you could fight sycamore?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 21:45:54 No.27507456 Report

Quoted By: >>27511186

>>27503510
This girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 21:48:34 No.27507510 Report

Quoted By: >>27508298

>>27506771
Which is weird, because no one else does that except for player controlled characters. You're referred to as a champion but you don't fight challengers.
Are those pictures of implied player teams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:26:44 No.27508298 Report

Quoted By: >>27515660

>>27507510
You don't fight challengers because it's implied you rescind your title to continue your adventure. That's what led to Blue changing his attitude and becoming a Gym Leader and it's what led to Red having a midlife crisis at the age of ten, he'd peaked and he had nothing left to do but train.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:27:51 No.27508320 Report

Quoted By: >>27511000 >>27511088

>>27503682
The how could Alder have been champ for so long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:29:26 No.27508360 Report

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There wasn't one

The first person to ever beat the Kanto/Johto Elite 4 in its entire history was a 10 year old, and the second and third were also 10 year olds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:30:20 No.27508372 Report

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>>27507443
Sycamore was so easy that it didn't really matter.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:30:28 No.27508375 Report

Quoted By: >>27508407 >>27508450

Agatha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:31:17 No.27508395 Report

Quoted By: >>27508571

>>27506771

Is bottom-right Diantha?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:31:53 No.27508406 Report

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Why are the only people who challenge the league children?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:31:55 No.27508407 Report

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>>27508375

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:34:07 No.27508450 Report

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>>27508375
Me on the left

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:37:27 No.27508505 Report

Quoted By:

>>27503510
Lance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 22:40:41 No.27508571 Report

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>>27508395
Nah it just looks like some dude in a long coat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Aug 2016 23:32:21 No.27509712 Report

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>>27503510
Idontknow

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:27:20 No.27510882 Report

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>>27503510
Lance comments that Red would have been the champ already if Blue didn't beat him to the punch.

This implies there was no champ before them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:32:48 No.27511000 Report

Quoted By: >>27511088

>>27508320
Kanto/Johto are a very backwards region, and they just got it compared to other places.

Its pretty much the countryside of the Pokemon world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:35:07 No.27511042 Report

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>>27506771
Origins couldn't even get Red's mom's hair right, Origins while taking a lot from the games is still its own universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:37:19 No.27511088 Report

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>>27508320
>>27511000
There's also the fact that its been at least 10+ years between the Kanto games and Unova ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:42:05 No.27511173 Report

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>>27506771
But if so many people stepped down and didn't take the role as champion, wouldn't that mean that the league would be far weaker than it should be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:42:51 No.27511186 Report

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>>27507456
I want to see here underpanties

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:47:43 No.27511278 Report

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>>27503510
the elite 4 was 3 people, the "assumed" 4th member is the champion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:49:51 No.27511328 Report

Quoted By: >>27511409

>>27507443
Haven't you played XY ?
it's how you get your kanto starters, but his fight is very early in the game and hist team is only lvl 10 char/bulb/squirt. It would've been cool to see a real team on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:52:13 No.27511374 Report

Quoted By: >>27511445 >>27514247

>>27503726
Iris was one of the strongest gym leaders in the region before she became champ, and many NPCs note her prowess, genius, and precociousness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:54:04 No.27511409 Report

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>>27507443
>>27511328
You fight Sycamore in Couriway Town, too. He has level 50 evos of Kanto starters.

I know, it's hard to remember this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 00:55:15 No.27511445 Report

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>>27511374
AND THAT AS'SHOLE SHE GOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 03:21:13 No.27514247 Report

Quoted By: >>27514537

>>27511374
>Iris was one of the strongest gym leaders
Only in White, but her skills must have been something even in the universe where she isn't one to become champ between the 2 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 03:34:17 No.27514537 Report

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>>27514247
Only cause the player traumatized her competition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 04:10:25 No.27515279 Report

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>>27503517
hmmm really makes u think

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 04:29:36 No.27515660 Report

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>>27508298
>Red having a midlife crisis at the age of ten, he'd peaked and he had nothing left to do but train
>Train for 3/4 years and abandon civilization
>Still get your ass beat by some upstart from Johto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 04:41:28 No.27515837 Report

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>>27503568
I doubt it.
I always thought of Giovanni as a silent member of the league.
Just using the position for power and influence.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 03 Aug 2016 04:47:25 No.27515945 Report

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How come Lance became the champion instead of Blue?

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