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Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 18:34:17 No.28156281 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28156854 >>28157090 >>28157210 >>28157272 >>28157425 >>28157686 >>28157800

Hey guys, newfag to Pokemon here. I've never played any of the games before, so I checked out this board a little and saw you all suggest not playing the Gen I games. I naturally decided to play the Gen I games first (I picked Blue), but now I'm worried about the difficulty curve.

I'm in the second city (the one with a gym that's locked). I'm wondering if my team is ready to trek through the upcoming forest.

>Lv10 Squirtle
>Lv10 Nidoran Female
>Lv10 Rattata
>Lv10 Nidoran Male
>Lv10 Pidgey
>Lv8 Spearow

I'm worried about Spearow. It seems to be leveling up really slowly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 18:38:58 No.28156381 Report

Quoted By: >>28156728

You are absurdly overleveled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 18:59:28 No.28156728 Report

Quoted By: >>28156867

>>28156381
Ok. What level would most people have around this point in the game. I keep getting poisoned by bugs in the forest and it's annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:06:30 No.28156845 Report

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lol you're overleveled

don't worry about levels you dunce, these games are pretty well level scaled up until the last 1 or 2 gyms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:07:10 No.28156854 Report

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>>28156281
You are overleveled, but you won't be for long. However you have to consider that experience in gen 1 is quite limited(trainers can't be rebattled and then your only option to grind is against wild pokemon) so you won't be able to train 6 pokemon equally: focus on 4.
Viridian Forest is quite easy, you may need an antidote and a potion, but nothing more

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:08:11 No.28156867 Report

Quoted By: >>28156994

>>28156728
Roughly 7-10 tops really. You should make it thought the forest easily. You can find wild pikachu in the forest btw though they have a low spawn rate. It would be helpful to have one for gym 2.

You should decide between spearow or pidgey and replace the other. You don't need two birds.

When the nidorans evolve they need moonstones to evolve to tier 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:14:43 No.28156965 Report

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Drop Rattata asap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:16:36 No.28156994 Report

Quoted By: >>28157046 >>28157127 >>28157184 >>28157210

>>28156867
Ok, I just made it through the forest. Spearow got up to Level 10 on the last trainer, the one with the Level 9 Weedle that left me on 1 HP with its poison. I actually managed to catch a Pikachu. It nearly destroyed my Spearow with its electric shock attack.

Which do you recommend between Pidgey and Spearow? From my experiences so far, I'd say the former as Gust seems to be getting critical hits almost all of the time and Pidgey seems to level up far more rapidly than Spearow.

Should I also decide between the two Nidorans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:19:56 No.28157046 Report

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>>28156994
Spearow will have more attack, buy pidgey will have more defense. The same goes for nidoran male/ female, respectively. Choose which is more important to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:22:37 No.28157090 Report

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>>28156281

Shit man most kids played this game with a single Pokemon and never stopped to train. Don't listen to /vp/ memes. None of the Pokemon games are really hard. They're designed in a way that you literally catch your Pokemon on the way and have a fun time. Just make sure your Pokes are always at least about 4-5 levels above the wild Pokemon and just go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:25:07 No.28157127 Report

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>>28156994
Train Spearow and Nidoran male, drop Pidgey and Nidoran female

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:29:12 No.28157184 Report

Quoted By: >>28157220

>>28156994

I always went for Spearow because it evolves to Fearow at level 20 and becomes a really powerul early mon with good flying attacks. Pidgey's final evolution is at 36 and it doesn't get as good attacks but its overall stats are better later. But you can ditch both for Farfetch'd later anyway, it's the ultimate bird Pokemon and learns Swords Dance which doubles it attack on every use. Might wanna keep not evolving Spearow for that as the only Farfetch'd in the ENTIRE GAME is in Vermillon city (third gym) and is only acquired by trade witc an NPC. It will be the same level as the Spearow you traded. Also it will gain double the amount of EXP than all your other Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:31:38 No.28157210 Report

Quoted By: >>28157290

>>28156281
I'm surprised you're playing the originals rather than FRLG.

You don't need to grind at all until maybe the last couple of gyms.

>>28156994
Spearow is faster, more offensive and reaches full power way way sooner. Pidgeot is just more bulky, but it's still not bulky in general, so it's a waste of stats.

Yes, two Nidorans is redundant. Male is stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:32:20 No.28157220 Report

Quoted By: >>28157327

>>28157184

Also make sure spearow is level 22. Farfetch'd will learn Swords Dance at Level 23 and I'm not sure if it has it if you trade it at a higher level

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:35:37 No.28157272 Report

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>>28156281

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:36:32 No.28157290 Report

Quoted By: >>28157331

>>28157210
With both he could have Nidoqueen and Nidoking by Ceruleun. Both have hugh diverse move pools too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:38:30 No.28157327 Report

Quoted By: >>28157358

>>28157220
You can just use the TM to teach is Swords Dance. Also Farfetch'd sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:38:36 No.28157331 Report

Quoted By: >>28157355

>>28157290

Not if he evolves them that early. And TMs are limited. No reason to have two things of the exact same type, you're just wasting exp leveling both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:40:10 No.28157355 Report

Quoted By: >>28157466

>>28157331
You can split the TMs between both. And their stats make the HUGE at that section of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:40:14 No.28157358 Report

Quoted By: >>28157485

>>28157327

>Wasting a TM
>A Pokemon with 100% crit chance sucks

Bait?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:42:00 No.28157390 Report

Quoted By: >>28157471 >>28157485 >>28157491

You guys said I was under-leveled and yet the trainer in the gym destroyed me with his Diglett. Does Diglett get critical hits 100% of the time or was that just an extremely unlucky run?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:43:21 No.28157425 Report

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>>28156281
>not playing FRLG
Literally a direct upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:45:16 No.28157466 Report

Quoted By: >>28157614

>>28157355

>split TMs between both

But WHY? There is literally no advatange. One of them will just be dead weight. If something manages to kill one it's going to kill the other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:45:37 No.28157471 Report

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>>28157390
In gen I crits depend on speed and Diglett is quite fast.
Just train your Squirtle a bit and you'll be fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:46:29 No.28157485 Report

Quoted By: >>28157561

>>28157390
Extremely unlucky. Just something to note, criticals were based on speed in the original games, faster pokemon or pokemon that boost their speed have a higher chance of landing a crit. Use Nidoran's double kick to sweep this gym.

>>28157358
>What is Celadon city

And it's a Gen 1 Farfetch'd, it's got dick-all for stats and a crappy move pool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:46:46 No.28157491 Report

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>>28157390

How the fuck
Your Squirtle and Spearow should've killed Diglet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:50:00 No.28157561 Report

Quoted By: >>28157603 >>28157649 >>28157679

>>28157485

>Swords Dance
>Agility
>Slash
>Fly

Literally unbeatable. Question: Have you ever used Farfetch'd in Gen 1? Because nobody that used a Farfetch'd with a 100% crit chance that kills everything would call it crap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:51:24 No.28157594 Report

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Train the squirtle and nidoran male exclusively and you will dominate the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:51:49 No.28157603 Report

Quoted By: >>28157684

>>28157561
>352 BST
>no stat above 65

Farfetch'd is crap. Literally the worst flying type in gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:52:14 No.28157614 Report

Quoted By: >>28157664

>>28157466
You can diversify their movepools heavily. Both can learen Blizzard, Thunder, Earthquake, Flamethrower, Surf, Fissure, Megakick and Hyper Beam. They're two of the most customizable Pokemon in Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:54:12 No.28157649 Report

Quoted By: >>28157720

>>28157561
>60 speed
>55 defense
You're havin' a giggle mate, come on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:55:05 No.28157664 Report

Quoted By: >>28157725

>>28157614

It's also a gigantic fucking waste to give all those TMs to two nidorans. Have you heard of something called STAB? Or a decent Special stat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:55:44 No.28157679 Report

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>>28157561
>100% crit chance
>Swords Dance
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:55:55 No.28157684 Report

Quoted By: >>28157723

>>28157603

You fool, it gets SLASH. that's what makes it more of a powerhouse in-game than the other birds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:56:03 No.28157686 Report

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>>28156281
Pokemon games aren't hard, you don't really need to be worried about this kind of thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:57:03 No.28157698 Report

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Can't you play the game by yourself and make your own fucking decisions instead of asking for help? it's literally designed for children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:58:25 No.28157720 Report

Quoted By: >>28158687

>>28157649

Doesn't matter. Double Exp will easily make it quickly the most powerful mon in your team. It'll be like 10 levels above your strongest mon always if not even more depending on how much you use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:58:31 No.28157723 Report

Quoted By: >>28157751

>>28157684
SD is crap though since crits also ignore the user stat boosts in Gen 1. Give it Double Team or Reflect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 19:58:38 No.28157725 Report

Quoted By: >>28157754

>>28157664
Any Pokemon who's going to get STAB on these moves will learn them by levelling . And Nidoking's Special stat's fine considering move diversity. Also, STAB from Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:00:14 No.28157751 Report

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>>28157723

It needs strong attack for other moves besides slash in case you enounter a rock or ghost type

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:00:33 No.28157754 Report

Quoted By: >>28157761

>>28157725

Which is why you're better off just having Nidoking rather than having to split his exp with a redundant Nidoqueen. It's a complete fucking waste of a party slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:01:14 No.28157761 Report

Quoted By: >>28157851

>>28157754
So would you consider two Alakazam a wasted slot in Gen 1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:03:47 No.28157800 Report

Quoted By: >>28157836 >>28157877

>>28156281
I finished that game 100% in less than 15 hours play time when I was 8. Just move forward. If you black out then move forward again. Just play the game and experience to experience it for yourself instead of asking someone else to tell you how to play it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:06:29 No.28157836 Report

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>>28157800

Except for that Farfetch'd though. There is only a single one in the game and it's undoubtedly the best mon in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:07:34 No.28157851 Report

Quoted By: >>28157914

>>28157761

Yes, why the fuck would you need two? What does that accomplish? One is enough to sweep the entire game. The rest of the party should cover his handful of bad matchups, not just a clone that soaks up his exp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:08:53 No.28157877 Report

Quoted By: >>28157958

>>28157800
Half the fun of pokemon was talking about neat things you found with your friends and them telling you stuff you'd never have found out, like being able to get a Magikarp outside Mt. Moon, or Starmie being able to learn thunderbolt and thunder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:11:02 No.28157914 Report

Quoted By: >>28158014

>>28157851
Psychics had no bad weaknesses in Gen 1, so what's there to cover? And two equally powerful pokemon can cover for each other when one is knocked out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:13:54 No.28157958 Report

Quoted By: >>28157984

>>28157877
You see, I actually played he games and paid attention so I knew that stuff anyway. Trading and battling was fun with the boys, and talking about what everything is based on... But asking each other how to play is retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:15:36 No.28157984 Report

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>>28157958
You don't sound like someone who's fun to be friends with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:17:13 No.28158014 Report

Quoted By: >>28158117

>>28157914
Chansey, Starmie, Exeggutor. Zam was never invincible.

Two powerful Pokemon that SHARE THE SAME PROBLEMS. Fucking again, you are just splitting the exp between the two. You end up with two lower level zams who together are weaker than a single zam. It's fucking redundant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:22:43 No.28158117 Report

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>>28158014
I was certain Alakazam could learn thunderbolt, turns out it was thunderwave. Chansey's countered with seismic toss or submission, but yeah, Exeggutor's a wall. My original point on Nidoking and Nidoqueen having diverse movepools and high stats still stands though.

On a side note, why do you call it "zam"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2016 20:48:42 No.28158687 Report

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>>28157720
If its in red/blue/yellow you don'y get the xp buff i'm pretty sure

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