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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:24:43 No.29288621 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29288652 >>29288680 >>29288743 >>29288817 >>29288879 >>29288932 >>29289014 >>29289054 >>29289162 >>29289293 >>29289375 >>29289501 >>29289748 >>29289815 >>29289999 >>29290014

>Doesnt have 3D anymore
>Laggs more than previous games, even on N3DS
>Removed triple and rotation battles because they cant handle it anymore

Nice game you got there guys, they surely improved from gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:25:26 No.29288642 Report

Quoted By: >>29288672 >>29288711 >>29288712 >>29288713 >>29288745 >>29288808 >>29288883 >>29289077 >>29289815

Where is everyone experiencing this lag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:25:45 No.29288652 Report

Quoted By: >>29288697 >>29288740 >>29290023

>>29288621
>implying anyone actually liked triple/rotation battles or used the 3d.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:26:21 No.29288672 Report

Quoted By: >>29288711 >>29288712 >>29288719 >>29289739 >>29289815

>>29288642
Seriously
I haven't seen any of it
And I play on the original 3DS

Anon

Anon Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:26:50 No.29288680 Report

Quoted By: >>29288711

>>29288621
Dont lag for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:27:22 No.29288697 Report

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>>29288652

I liked the 3D.
Triple battles and rotation were too slow and boring though. Still doesn't excuse the game cutting features and content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:27:49 No.29288711 Report

Quoted By: >>29289781

>>29288642
>>29288672
>>29288680
Totem battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:27:50 No.29288712 Report

Quoted By: >>29288740 >>29288891

>>29288642
>>29288672
they are probably playing on their hacked 3ds that they fucked up somehow

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:27:51 No.29288713 Report

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>>29288642
Yeah, I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I didn't get any noticeable lag during the demo on my "new" 3DS XL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:28:06 No.29288719 Report

Quoted By: >>29289102

>>29288672
Maybe its on old 3DS's with little free space left?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:28:52 No.29288740 Report

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>>29288652
The point is the games lag more without 3d than previous games with 3d, what the fuck?
>>29288712
Not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:28:54 No.29288743 Report

Quoted By: >>29289226

>>29288621
What's the source on no 3D? No 3D in the demo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:28:56 No.29288745 Report

Quoted By: >>29288826 >>29289702

>>29288642
the totem battle was dreadful once rockruff entered the field, holy shit so bad, and i'm not kidding you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:31:24 No.29288808 Report

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>>29288642
Didn't experience any in the demo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:31:46 No.29288817 Report

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>>29288621
I noticed minor lag when rockruff appeared on the totem battle, but it was very brief since I OHKO'd it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:32:15 No.29288826 Report

Quoted By: >>29289702

>>29288745
I have an older 3DS and the only time I experienced any slowdown was minimal and it was only as soon as Rockruff appeared. Other than that, it ran fine.

Perhaps there's an issue with the demo in certain areas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:32:36 No.29288837 Report

Quoted By: >>29289010 >>29289212

Now I know that apologists are straight up liars that dismiss any criticism if it doesnt concern them.

Everyone got the same fucking game on the same fucking hardware, of course it was laggy at certain parts you fucking drones

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:33:42 No.29288879 Report

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>>29288621
3D is in the snap mode
I do like 3D though, at least it's in one part.
I did not experience lag. Works on my machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:33:54 No.29288883 Report

Quoted By: >>29288903 >>29289323

>>29288642
>totem battles after the totem mon summons its buddy
>pokefinder segments

You are blind or lying if you didn't see frame drops during these.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:34:03 No.29288891 Report

Quoted By: >>29289372

>>29288712
>not having a n3ds A9LH with overclock enabled

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:34:40 No.29288903 Report

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>>29288883
this, pokefinder segments are dreadful with such low fps

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:35:47 No.29288932 Report

Quoted By: >>29288969 >>29289041

>>29288621
How important is it that there is no 3D?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:36:56 No.29288969 Report

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>>29288932
This. I'm one of the few people that actually really likes the 3D and leaves it on, but considering how it slows down battles, I don't think it's so horrible they left it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:38:11 No.29289010 Report

Quoted By: >>29289069

>>29288837
There were some frame drops, but they're nowhere near 'dreadful' or 'game ruining' as some anons report.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:38:21 No.29289014 Report

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>>29288621
What did you play the demo on? A potato? No lag on mine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:39:21 No.29289041 Report

Quoted By: >>29289112

>>29288932
It's not super important but if done well it looks really nice.

Problem is Game Freak refuses to hire competent programmers. There are lots of better looking 3DS games that run fine in 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:39:47 No.29289054 Report

Quoted By: >>29289305

>>29288621
Yes, this gen will be the most forgettable gen since Kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:40:22 No.29289069 Report

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>>29289010
Yeah, i can say there were frame drops, even on the new3DS, but if you aren't looking for them, they'd be easy to miss because just aren't that bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:40:38 No.29289077 Report

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>>29288642
The pokefinder for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:41:01 No.29289091 Report

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Ok, aside from a few moments in games where the 3D actually looked pretty cool (planet robobot comes to mind) did anybody even USE the 3D? Like, at all? And I'm kinda glad triple battles and rotation battles are gone, because when did you ever do a triple battle or rotation battle outside of a battle facility?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:41:24 No.29289102 Report

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>>29288719
>little free space left
That's not how computer systems work anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:41:27 No.29289104 Report

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>Removed triple and rotation battles
Source? Rotation battles were the shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:41:40 No.29289112 Report

Quoted By: >>29289143

>>29289041
Isn't the issue the stupidly detailed pokemon models, rather than programming?
After all, the problems are mainly in battle and there aren't problems in the few overworld areas that are in 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:42:31 No.29289143 Report

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>>29289112
Yeah, I'd consider it a part of programming though. It's not hard at all to downscale the models. It's not like you can even see how high quality they are with a fucking 240p screen anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:43:03 No.29289158 Report

Quoted By: >>29289349

Ain't gonna defend FPS drops but are we really whining over a bunch of gimmicks? 3D for the 3DS is just terrible and triple/rotation battles we're equally as shit. You gonna complain that sky battles are gone next?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:43:06 No.29289160 Report

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Adding the trainer models was a mistake, two more things on the screen during battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:43:08 No.29289162 Report

Quoted By:

>>29288621
I have an N3DS XL, and I didn't notice any lag of any kind at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:43:39 No.29289181 Report

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I didn't experience any lag or frame-rate drop in the demo. Totem battle or anywhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:44:28 No.29289201 Report

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It's the fucking aura on Totems that causes all that lag when Rockruff shows up. It even lags before that sometimes when the camera is panning. At least I hope so. I wouldn't want double battles to be lagfests.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:44:36 No.29289204 Report

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I didn't get any lag on my n3ds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:44:58 No.29289212 Report

Quoted By:

>>29288837
What? People are disagreeing with me? I know I'll call them drones! That'll show them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:45:31 No.29289226 Report

Quoted By: >>29289256 >>29289286

>>29288743
No 3D at all, not even in the full game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:46:11 No.29289256 Report

Quoted By:

>>29289226
I asked for a source on that info, not clarification.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:47:15 No.29289286 Report

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>>29289226
The demo has 3D in the photo mode though. Why wouldn't the full game also have 3D in the photo mode?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:47:30 No.29289293 Report

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>>29288621
>Removed triple and rotation battles because they cant handle it anymore
>It's because the trainers are now on the field
It's Ice Climbers all over again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:47:51 No.29289305 Report

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>>29289054
It'll be more forgettable than that one region that came before Hoenn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:48:21 No.29289323 Report

Quoted By:

>>29288883
The only time I get lag is when the pokefinder starts up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:48:52 No.29289336 Report

Quoted By: >>29289487

Eh, there was a little bit of lag in the totem battle, but that was about it on my end. Not as bad as before, and most certainly not as bad as other games I've played on my 2ds, so it doesn't bother me that much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:49:17 No.29289349 Report

Quoted By: >>29289401 >>29289450

>>29289158
Speaking of Sky Battles, do we know if they've done anything to change the models for flying Pokemon?

Most flying Pokemon ooked awful because they were stuck in a constant gliding animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:50:03 No.29289372 Report

Quoted By: >>29289423

>>29288891
How better is it on an overclocked N3DS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:50:07 No.29289375 Report

Quoted By:

>>29288621
I only experienced frame drops on my n3ds during Pokefinder segments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:51:04 No.29289401 Report

Quoted By:

>>29289349
Salamence looked alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:51:35 No.29289423 Report

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>>29289372
Not much better. I still lagged during the totem battle, although only when the other two Pokemon were on screen.

And the Pokefinder still looked like butt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:52:27 No.29289450 Report

Quoted By:

>>29289349
>Most
it was just 7 that were stuck in that pose

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:53:58 No.29289487 Report

Quoted By: >>29290024

>>29289336
It's going to suck to go through double battles, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 20:54:17 No.29289501 Report

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>>29288621
There is no lag on the N3DS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:00:57 No.29289702 Report

Quoted By: >>29289746 >>29289752

>>29288826
>>29288745
>Rockruff

What? It was a Jangmo-O.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:02:01 No.29289739 Report

Quoted By:

>>29288672
Same here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:02:10 No.29289746 Report

Quoted By: >>29289802

>>29289702
The totem battle was fine, it's the Rockruff partner it summons that caused the slowdown, and only for the first few seconds it was there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:02:19 No.29289748 Report

Quoted By: >>29289813 >>29289914

>>29288621
Let me continue that list OP

>Likely no Battle Frontier or a non-battle tower post game facility (If it had, they would've revealed it by now)
>Postgame will likely be just multiplayer shit and retarded minigames
>Over half of the regional Pokedes is gen 1 pokemon
>Theres more gen 1 Pokemon than there is Alolan Pokemon
>Removed bikes
>Removes Rollerskates
>Didn't fix the models and animations
>Removed hordes, EV training will likely go back to being defeating 1 Pokemon at a time
>Removed soaring
>RemoveD Dexnav
>Removed secret bases
>Removed contests
>Removed pretty much every ORAS feature worth a damn
>Music sucks
>So does the new Pokemon designs
>Alolan Dugtrio

There's no doubt these games will be shit, hopefully they tank. Hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:02:24 No.29289752 Report

Quoted By: >>29289802

>>29289702
It summons Rockruff as an ally pokemon, and the FPS takes a dip with the extra model on the field.

Anon

Anon Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:03:28 No.29289781 Report

Quoted By:

>>29288711
I had no problem. Delete space or buy a new one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:04:13 No.29289802 Report

Quoted By:

>>29289752
>>29289746
I guess there's regional differences between the demos again, I played the European version and the totem battle was Hakamo-o and Jangmo-o.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:04:26 No.29289813 Report

Quoted By: >>29289875

>>29289748
Pokemon main games are never going to tank, but if they did, the message Nintendo would get wouldn't be "bring back all the cool features our "hardcore" fans like", it would be "panic, let's make the games more casual to broaden interest!".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:04:29 No.29289815 Report

Quoted By: >>29289860 >>29289886 >>29289936

>>29288621
>>29288642
>>29288672
Does it have to do with the amount of free space you have left? I have something like 50k blocks free and I haven't seen any framerate drops aside from when using the camera thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:05:45 No.29289860 Report

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>>29289815
No, I have a 64 GB SD card which is 90% empty and I still experienced framedrops on my old3DS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:06:26 No.29289875 Report

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>>29289813
Hopefully they will put pokemon out of its misery by then, the games are just a shadow of their former selves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:06:49 No.29289886 Report

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>>29289815
That is not how electronics and computers work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:07:23 No.29289914 Report

Quoted By: >>29290043

>>29289748
>Removed hordes, EV training will likely go back to being defeating 1 Pokemon at a time

Super Training no longer exists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:07:59 No.29289936 Report

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>>29289815
The only thing that COULD affect is loading speed, but once the assets are loaded into the memory that no longer matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:09:10 No.29289976 Report

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on a 2ds here and the only really noticeable FPS hit was totem battle once it summoned rockruff and it went away once a mon went down.

i only noticed a slight fps drop that for some reason went away with greninja battle bond animation after it did it's transformation once and never noticed a drop again with future ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:10:09 No.29289999 Report

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>>29288621
Yeah. Speaking as a Gen V fag I could give a shit less about Triple Battle and Rotation Battle and FUCK 3D mode. That shit makes me sick and none of you faggots bought the 3DS for the 3D function anyway. I don't know about lagging more and believe little since its all datamined shit but I will see when the game comes out since that is a legit concern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:10:25 No.29290014 Report

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>>29288621
>wanting triple and rotation battles
What are you, gay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:10:45 No.29290023 Report

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>>29288652
triple battles were the best you cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:10:46 No.29290024 Report

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>>29289487
Not as bad as it did in xy, at least. And most certainly not as bad as half the other shit on the 3ds. Seriously, I've had so many games get huge, random fucking frame drops, I've stopped noticing the drops in Pokemon games. Do I need a bigger sd card, or is Nintendo's hardware just fucking awful?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 21:11:17 No.29290043 Report

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>>29289914
They probably removes that too

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