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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:04:28 No.29840839 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29841335 >>29841792 >>29841814 >>29842436 >>29842590 >>29842597 >>29843091 >>29843304

>Bug- and Ice-type both buffed in SM
How does it feel bros? After years of suffering, based Ohmori decided to buff the two underdog types.

In case there are people who have been living under a rock, let's do a quick recap.

Bug:
>Fell Stinger buffed (50BP, +3 Attack boost)
>Leech Life buffed to 80BP and is now a TM
>Turn order decided after Mega Evolution so M-Beedrill can run 4 offensive moves
>Talonflame nerfed so much that no-one is going to use it anymore

Ice:
>Two new Snow Warning Pokemon (Vanilluxe and A-Ninetales)
>Slush Rush (Ice-type version of Swift Swim) given to Beartic and A-Sandslash
>Beartic and Cryogonal got stat boosts
>Also benefits from Talonflame being dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:05:12 No.29840850 Report

Quoted By: >>29840910 >>29840945 >>29842467 >>29842548 >>29843822

what a shit time to be a grassfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:05:17 No.29840854 Report

Quoted By: >>29840910 >>29841229

>Turn order decided after Mega Evolution so M-Beedrill can run 4 offensive moves

Explain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:06:17 No.29840875 Report

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We also got fast Rock types. Dayruff, Nihilego and Minior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:07:40 No.29840910 Report

Quoted By: >>29841173

>>29840850
Nah, Grassy Surge will rise. Strength Sap and Comfey are here now.
>>29840854
>>29837589

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:08:50 No.29840943 Report

Quoted By: >>29845519

Ooh, Fell Stinger got buffed that much? Gonna have to throw that move back on my Drapion now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:08:57 No.29840945 Report

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>>29840850
It's always a shitty time to be a grassfag tho. Game Freak seems to hate you guys. Maybe in the next generation.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:12:41 No.29841020 Report

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>bug still not normally effective on fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:20:49 No.29841173 Report

Quoted By: >>29841210 >>29841230 >>29841299 >>29841542

>>29840910
What's Strength Sap, Tapu Bulu's signature move? Isn't Comfey pure Fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:22:44 No.29841210 Report

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>>29841173
Mushroom-getting-Jigglyblowjobs signature move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:23:22 No.29841229 Report

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>>29840854
In gen 6, speed and priority check happened before mega evolution. Now, speed and priority check happens after mega evo.

So on gen 6, if you mega evolve into super fast Beedrill or Prankster Banette, you still move second because the game decided turn order before mega evolution loaded the new stats and abilities. Now it checks for turn order after mega evolution, so this means MegaBee doesn't have to run Protect anymore to keep it from dying on its slow turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:23:23 No.29841230 Report

Quoted By: >>29841542

>>29841173
Strength Sap is Shiinotic's exclusive move.

Strength Sap: "The user restores its HP by the same amount as the target's Attack stat. It also lowers the target's Attack stat."

Not sure why they said Comfey though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:25:18 No.29841262 Report

Quoted By: >>29841312 >>29841351 >>29843621

except Snow Cloak is terrible, Beartic already had Swift Swim (and is competitively useless anyway), and Sandslash-A will be competitively useless anyway.

so literally ItsFuckingNothing.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:27:23 No.29841299 Report

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>>29841173
Strength Sap is Shiinotic's signature move. Heals HP equal to the opponents Atk stat, then lowers their Atk one stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:28:06 No.29841312 Report

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>>29841262
but with slush rush + STAB icicle crash and hail boost its a bit stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:28:30 No.29841322 Report

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>ice type "buffed"
>gave a few shitmons some irrelevant abilities
>they're still PU/NU tier trash

yeah that's not a buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:29:20 No.29841335 Report

Quoted By: >>29841693

>>29840839
Don't forget Aurora Veil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:30:07 No.29841351 Report

Quoted By: >>29841393

>>29841262
Why the fuck would you use Beartic on a Rain Dance team you dumbass? That ability made no fucking sense anyway, that's why they went out of their way to fix it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:32:27 No.29841393 Report

Quoted By: >>29841713

>>29841351
why would you use a hail team, ever, when ice types are complete garbage? At least Beartic, although shit stat wise could diversify a rain team which would otherwise be mostly water by having stab ice against grass/dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:41:05 No.29841542 Report

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>>29841173
>>29841230
Comfey is good support in Grassy Terrain with Flower Veil and Flower Shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:48:50 No.29841693 Report

Quoted By: >>29842375

>>29841335
I've heard some people claim that only works on Hail, is that true?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:50:16 No.29841713 Report

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>>29841393
for fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:55:19 No.29841792 Report

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>>29840839
>Cryogonal got stat boosts
Is it ghost yet? Now? Then I don't care.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 01:56:30 No.29841814 Report

Quoted By: >>29843795

>>29840839
>ice type
>buffed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:26:20 No.29842375 Report

Quoted By: >>29842420 >>29842488

>>29841693

Exactly, which is the point.

A-Ninetails with Snow Warning gets Dual Screens on its first turn. Suddenly all those slow bulky ice types actually have a shot at being useful for a few turns - otherwise there's still Froslass, Weavile, etc.

Instead of getting say...a bonus to defence in Hail, Ice Types get a move that provides BOTH defences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:28:06 No.29842410 Report

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>tfw volcarona is finally viable again

WEW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:28:49 No.29842420 Report

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>>29842375
You say that as if wasting a turn and a moveslot was better than automatically gaining a boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:29:27 No.29842436 Report

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>>29840839
but where can I cath A Vulpix? does anyone know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:31:25 No.29842467 Report

Quoted By: >>29843699 >>29844492

>>29840850
>lurantis is a shitty serperior
>tsareena is a shitty physical lilligant with no physical moves

WHY GAMEFREAK WHY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:32:14 No.29842488 Report

Quoted By: >>29842542

>>29842375
do we know what A-Ninetales' stat dist is? Is it defensive or a Sp Attacker like normal version.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:34:45 No.29842542 Report

Quoted By: >>29842566 >>29842898

>>29842488
This is the stat/ability distributions/changes of Gen 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:35:16 No.29842548 Report

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>>29840850
at least you got the uber origami

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:36:17 No.29842566 Report

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>>29842542
thanks. some interesting stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:37:27 No.29842590 Report

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>>29840839
>Implying Grass, Rock & Electric aren't also varying levels of shit

At least Ice and Bug got something this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:37:44 No.29842597 Report

Quoted By: >>29842954

>>29840839
That means m-banette is better now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:51:43 No.29842898 Report

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>>29842542
>all those pokemon losing speed
whaddafuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 02:54:24 No.29842954 Report

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>>29842597
M-Banette is better too, yes. It gets Prankster immediately on the turn it Mega Evolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:00:46 No.29843091 Report

Quoted By: >>29843674

>>29840839
>tfw still no new ice resistances.

Come on, Ice should resist grass and bug type attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:11:29 No.29843304 Report

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>>29840839
>thinking a bunch of ice shitmons with extra buff still won't be shitmons

If anything only Ninetales and Cryogonal are better now.
Cryogonal can still wall and spin a little more safer now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:26:26 No.29843621 Report

Quoted By: >>29843714

>>29841262
Bear got an attack boost too

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:28:30 No.29843670 Report

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So, what moves does this guy learn? And how does Battery work? Since the nerfs to Evolite have been deconfirmed, Evolite Charjabug in doubles might be a thing...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:28:45 No.29843674 Report

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>>29843091
Flying and Water would be more than enough.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:29:59 No.29843699 Report

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>>29842467
Why the fuck wasn't Tsareena a fucking Grass/Fighting? That is literally the only thing about it that pisses me off. It's a fucking Grass-type Chun-Li, learns High Jump Kick and its Pokedex entry LITERALLY says that it goes out of its way to protect the weak. Holy shit STAB Hi Jump Kick would have at least been fucking decent on top of being able to learn Synthesis. All it needed was a Fighting sub type and decent speed and it would have been fucking great. Yet Gen 7 went out of its way to fuck everyone, especially if you weren't a legendary or a goddamn Ultra Beast

FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:31:02 No.29843714 Report

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>>29843621
Beartic's viability issue wasn't that it didn't hit hard enough. It's that it has shit speed (even with a swift swim/slush boost) and shit bulk as the worst defensive typing in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:35:02 No.29843795 Report

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>>29841814
I was honestly hoping some helpful changes to the actual type were happening, like getting a resistance or something.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:36:18 No.29843822 Report

Quoted By: >>29844052 >>29844606

>>29840850
Holy shit kill yourselves already you grassfaggots

Grass is shit offensively? Yeah, but not every type is perfect

Grass is super good defensive because despite it's many weaknesses it has a resistance to TWO of the most common fucking types in the whole damn game one of it being Masuda's fetish type who

You fuckers have plenty of good Pokemon in Venusaur, Serperior, Sceptile, Jumpluff, Breelom, Ludicolo, Celebi, Shaymin, Amoongus, Ferrothorn and Virizion

You have good offensive moves, you have good defensive moves, you have good support moves

Your type has tons of shitmons? Guess what, every fucking type has shitmons too, the only reason your fucking type is the one that seems to have so many is because YOUR TYPE IS ONE OF THE ONES WHO HAS THE MOST POKEMON

You cunts and your victim complex is insufferable, half the types of the game wish they had it as good as grass has it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:37:47 No.29843855 Report

Quoted By: >>29843879

Is Ohmori a bugbro?

>All those buffs
>All the best designs are bugs
>OUR BOY Guzma is a bugbro
>Literally had a massive buff pillar man mosquito added and named him after being swole

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:38:31 No.29843879 Report

Quoted By: >>29843909 >>29843936

>>29843855
>Fairy resists bug for no reason
No he's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:39:54 No.29843909 Report

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>>29843879
He doesn't have absolute power, changing the type chart was probably off limits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:40:57 No.29843936 Report

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>>29843879
In many folklore, Fairies are known to control insects. You're lucky Fairy isn't super effective against Bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 03:45:19 No.29844052 Report

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>>29843822
grass literally has the most weaknesses in the game, tied with rock

two of them are fire and flying, not to mention fucking poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 04:09:46 No.29844492 Report

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>>29842467
just use solar blade :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 04:14:58 No.29844606 Report

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>>29843822
>Grass is shit offensively? Yeah, but not every type is perfect
It's tied with Bug for being resisted by the most types, but at least Bug only has three weaknesses compared to five.

>Grass is super good defensive because it resists two common types with one being Masuda's fetish type
What's the good in that if every fucking Water type can learn Ice Beam or Ice Punch?

>You fuckers have plenty of good Pokemon in Venusaur, Serperior, Sceptile, Jumpluff, Breelom, Ludicolo, Celebi, Shaymin, Amoongus, Ferrothorn and Virizion
Serperior is only good due to its ability and all those other Pokémon are good despite their Grass type, not because of it.

>You have good offensive moves, you have good defensive moves, you have good support moves
Almost every type does.

>You cunts and your victim complex is insufferable
Ironic coming from someone who's most likely an Icefag.

Grass is one of the three main starter types and as such appears in a lot of merchandising, so it's only fair that Grass is most deserving of buffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 04:59:11 No.29845519 Report

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>>29840943
full baka

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