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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:30:33 No.29858171 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29858437 >>29858539 >>29858682 >>29859067

Leave Stall to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:31:40 No.29858204 Report

Quoted By: >>29858270

Have fun getting walled by assvest Cryogonal, faggot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:32:41 No.29858227 Report

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Leave Ubers to me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:32:47 No.29858231 Report

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>Talonflame is fucking dead

Leave OU to me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:33:55 No.29858260 Report

Quoted By: >>29858271 >>29858318

Leave NU to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:34:33 No.29858270 Report

Quoted By: >>29858403

>>29858204
>+3 252 SpA Life Orb Xerkitree Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Cryogonal: 231-273 (67.1 - 79.3%)

wew lad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:34:39 No.29858271 Report

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>>29858260
It's gonna be funny to see this monstrosity lurking in lower tiers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:36:27 No.29858313 Report

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>+20 attack boost

Leave OU to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:36:37 No.29858318 Report

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>>29858260
kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:37:59 No.29858345 Report

Quoted By: >>29858483 >>29858696 >>29858897

Leave UU to me.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:39:36 No.29858376 Report

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Leave Alola to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:41:17 No.29858403 Report

Quoted By: >>29858882

>>29858270
Cryogonal was buffed didn't it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:43:20 No.29858437 Report

Quoted By: >>29858909 >>29864347

>>29858171
Have fun running HP Fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:45:57 No.29858483 Report

Quoted By: >>29858866 >>29858897

>>29858345
>Swords Dance
>Play Rough
>Shadow Sneak
>Leech Life
I'm so glad my favorite this gen turned out not to be a shitmon. I just hope Golisopod and Vikavolt are good in whatever lower tiers they end up in.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:47:44 No.29858510 Report

Quoted By: >>29858637 >>29859206

>leave stall to me
>all stall runs dugtrio

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:49:41 No.29858539 Report

Quoted By: >>29860125

>>29858171
>83 speed

have fun getting switched in on by Landorus, Gliscor, Excadrill or Dugtrio when you're trying to tail glow or using an electric move and either forced out or trap killed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:51:00 No.29858574 Report

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this thing is only good choiced to nuke things that try to switch into it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:51:43 No.29858586 Report

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Honestly I'll be running Scarf. I can't believe fags are going to use him as a setup sweeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:54:06 No.29858637 Report

Quoted By: >>29858694 >>29858930

>>29858510
I could honestly see a Dugtrio suspect once the meta settles down. Gengar and Talonflame can't stop it anymore, and it's honestly looking pretty broken on paper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:55:26 No.29858657 Report

Quoted By: >>29858721

>173 sp.att
>EVER needing tailglow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:56:27 No.29858682 Report

Quoted By: >>29861367

>>29858171
>173 Sp.attack
>tail glow
that's pretty over kill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:56:59 No.29858694 Report

Quoted By: >>29858736

>>29858637
Alolan Dugtrio doesn't get arena trap does it?

So does that make Alolan Dugtrio worthless?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:57:03 No.29858696 Report

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>>29858345
>has a built in reverse focus sash and a great support moveset
does this thing have the potential to be OU?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:58:06 No.29858721 Report

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>>29858657
He needs to kill the pink blobs that have been threatening his planet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 19:58:38 No.29858736 Report

Quoted By: >>29858999

>>29858694
it does but regular duggy gets 100 base atk and arena trap

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:03:18 No.29858822 Report

Quoted By: >>29858905

Leave Johto to me.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:06:06 No.29858866 Report

Quoted By: >>29858897

>>29858483
Single stage pokemon got it pretty good this gen. Mimikyu, minior, and drampa all look pretty solid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:07:03 No.29858882 Report

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>>29858403
>+hp and def

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:07:53 No.29858897 Report

Quoted By: >>29858945 >>29859022 >>29864978

>>29858345
>>29858483
>>29858866
How is this kid's support movepool? Does he have any good Doubles functions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:08:12 No.29858905 Report

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>>29858822
How is this shitmon going to deal with gen 2's obscenely bulky stallmons like Suicune and Blissey?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:08:13 No.29858906 Report

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Leave evolite to me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:08:21 No.29858909 Report

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>>29858437
whoa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:09:57 No.29858930 Report

Quoted By: >>29858952

>>29858637
No way. Duggy is good but one dimensional and too reliant on a sash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:10:55 No.29858945 Report

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>>29858897
It's made for singles desu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:11:22 No.29858950 Report

Quoted By: >>29859000

Leave Keldeo to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:11:32 No.29858952 Report

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>>29858930
its not that duggy itself is broken, if you use duggy stall, that is broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:14:38 No.29858999 Report

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>>29858736
Both got the attack buff

Alolan Dugtrio has Sand Veil/Tangling Hair/Sand Force for abilities, so sadly, it does not get Arena Trap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:14:49 No.29859000 Report

Quoted By: >>29860131 >>29863100

>>29858950
>hp electric

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:15:55 No.29859022 Report

Quoted By: >>29861548

>>29858897
Doubles he might be fucked.

For support it doesn't have anything that isn't done better by something. However for stat boosting is has swords dance, bulk up, and z splash. Add that with a decent attack and access to priority STAB with shadow sneak and STAB play rough and this guy is nothing to scuff at.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:16:08 No.29859026 Report

Quoted By: >>29861032

Leave PU to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:18:17 No.29859067 Report

Quoted By: >>29859165

>>29858171
>assault vest shuckle
>assault vest regice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:23:14 No.29859165 Report

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>>29859067
>assault vest shuckle
Unless you poisoned xuritree before sending it out you will be doing absolutely nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:25:14 No.29859206 Report

Quoted By: >>29859265

>>29858510
>Run Shed Shell on it
It doesn't really need a LO or a scarf to shit damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 20:27:35 No.29859265 Report

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>>29859206
>Scarf does extra damage
Autism

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:07:18 No.29860077 Report

Quoted By: >>29860197

Leave Rapid Spin to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:09:30 No.29860125 Report

Quoted By: >>29861323

>>29858539

Hoopa-U had even less speed and it still got banned from OU.

"muh speed" is the worst meme considering the average speed of OU is like 71.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:09:51 No.29860131 Report

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>>29859000
>Roost

Say goodbye to that 4x weakness, hoss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:12:49 No.29860197 Report

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>>29860077
I'm so glad this guy has it good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:13:17 No.29860209 Report

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Leave Xerneas to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:24:07 No.29860475 Report

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>>29860197
Yeah. I was a bit worried with the grass/ghost typing but it's looking pretty good. Probably in my top 10 pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:46:48 No.29861032 Report

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>>29859026
It just a slower superior.
It gonna be at least NU or higher

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:58:37 No.29861323 Report

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>>29860125
People trying to compare this to Hoopa and Manaphy don't know what they're talking about. Electric is painful as a mono-STAB because it makes you much easier to predict and work around with immunities. Hoopa had dual STAB and could carry both physical and special moves. Manaphy's mono water and 100/100/100 bulk mean that it both has slightly better neutral offensive coverage and significantly better defensive capabilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:00:04 No.29861367 Report

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>>29858682
And the stat increases with every KO

Too bad about the speed though, wouldn't mind if they lowered the spc attack to 150 and raised the speed a little

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:07:15 No.29861548 Report

Quoted By: >>29861686 >>29862437 >>29862511

>>29859022
I was thinking about using him for my Alolan Trick Room setter.
If Alolan dex is the only thing legal in VGC 17, then the following are the only things available to use trick room:

Exeggutor*
Hypno
Starmie
Porygon*
Slowbro*
Slowking*
Misdreavus
Trevenant*
Oranguru*
Mimikyu - 92 base speed not the best
Bruxish - 92 base speed not the best
Alakazam
Espeon

Is there anything that stands out in that list as being breddy gud for Doubles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:13:26 No.29861686 Report

Quoted By: >>29864286

>>29861548
Porygon2 used to be a popular TR setter, but its usage decreased over time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:47:08 No.29862437 Report

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>>29861548
Mimikyu has 96 base speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:50:55 No.29862511 Report

Quoted By: >>29862799

>>29861548
Comfey gets Trick Room and +3 priority on Floral Healing, which is essentially a Heal Pulse that heals 75% in Grassy Terrain; it also gets Helping Hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:02:16 No.29862799 Report

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>>29862511
Trick Room counts as terrain so Bulu can't put up Grass Terrain and give Comfy boosted healing though, unless you don't run TR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:14:35 No.29863100 Report

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>>29859000
252+ SpA Keldeo Hidden Power Electric vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mantine: 112-136 (58.3 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Keldeo Hidden Power Electric vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mantine: 88-104 (45.8 - 54.1%) -- 2.7% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:16:12 No.29863152 Report

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Leave NU to me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:18:46 No.29863216 Report

Quoted By: >>29864063

Leave something for me, please

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:19:24 No.29863235 Report

Quoted By: >>29863923

Leave Double to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:41:39 No.29863923 Report

Quoted By: >>29864241

>>29863235
>Higher Attack than Sp. Atk
>Only has Wild Charge and Brave Bird, and MAYBE Steel Wing for good physical moves
>Gamefreak didn't bother making a new physical Fairy-type move for the Guardians, or any AT ALL for that matter

I'm sure it'll have a niche with its ability and Speed, but I can't help but feel slightly disappointed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:43:22 No.29863961 Report

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Leave Smogon and learn to think for yourselves

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:47:48 No.29864063 Report

Quoted By: >>29864340 >>29864420

>>29863216
>Tfw Zygarde will never get a game of its own and will be eternally cucked until gen 6 remakes in 7-10 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:55:15 No.29864241 Report

Quoted By: >>29864270

>>29863923
You got a 95 BP play rough what the fuck do you want, fairy-worshipping nigger?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:56:21 No.29864270 Report

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>>29864241
It doesnt learn it....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:57:02 No.29864286 Report

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>>29861686
PG2 mostly fell off because VGC/Battlespot has become powercrept to hell and back with megas. Without megas PG2 will do much better in VGC17, it'll be between him and Slowbro for the best trick roomers in the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:59:08 No.29864340 Report

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>>29864063
>yfw it will be cucked again in XY remakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:59:22 No.29864347 Report

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>>29858437
Actually, it gets Dark Pulse. So non-Scarf variants laugh at Shedinja, even without rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:01:54 No.29864420 Report

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>>29864063
>Big Z is my favorite legendary in several generations
>not even good
>no game
>gets a literally my mom's digimon for a forme
>still not good

Why did they do this to us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:23:54 No.29864978 Report

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>>29858897
Doubles, he's fucked.
Focus Sash and Disguise, double swords dance, baton pass or stab shadow sneak

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