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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:33:00 No.29863638 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29863664 >>29863674 >>29863716 >>29863723 >>29863745 >>29863913 >>29863989 >>29864090 >>29864164 >>29864436 >>29864456

Name a single, non legendary/ultra beast pokemon that will make it to OU.

No, actually go ahead and include legendaries/ultra beasts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:33:51 No.29863664 Report

Quoted By: >>29863813 >>29864032

>>29863638
Toxapex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:33:59 No.29863674 Report

Quoted By: >>29863813

>>29863638
Toxapex will be, 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:35:19 No.29863716 Report

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>>29863638

Bewear will be Meme OU for a bit, just like how Trevenant was OU at the beginning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:35:35 No.29863723 Report

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>>29863638
Dhelmise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:36:13 No.29863745 Report

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>>29863638
Pretty much just Toxapex. MAYBE Kommo-o, Salazzle but it will drop when everything gets settled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:36:25 No.29863751 Report

Quoted By: >>29863892

>Toxapex
>Xurkitree
>Kartana

That is, unless they autoban Xurkitree for being wallbreaker supreme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:36:33 No.29863758 Report

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>non legendary
Salazzle and Ribombee might make it. Maybe Type:Null and Silvally with any luck. Kongmo-o might as well. Minior might make it to BL.

>legendary
Most of the Tapus, definitely Koko and Lele.
Pheromona
Buzzwole
Origami one
Xurkitree
Marshadow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:38:01 No.29863813 Report

Quoted By: >>29864020 >>29864408

>>29863664
>>29863674

No rapid spin. You sure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:40:11 No.29863873 Report

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Golisopod good base attack 120 rly bulky SD aqua jet, suker punch, leech life or a FUKING 90 base power stab fake out

the ability is shit and is weak to rocks but is overpowered for UU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:40:11 No.29863874 Report

Quoted By: >>29864152

>le epic "anything not OU is unusable shit" meme
LOVE this meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:40:40 No.29863890 Report

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Salazzle will be OU because it shits on Tapus so well. Tikis will be the new genies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:40:43 No.29863892 Report

Quoted By: >>29864197

>>29863751
>name a non ultra beast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:41:24 No.29863913 Report

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>>29863638
Toxapex,possibly dhelmise,Tapu Lele,Celesteele just might,tsareena has a chance,kartana is looking fine and that might be it,or not its hard to tell right now but these certainly look likely now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:44:35 No.29863989 Report

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>>29863638
>smogon
Opinion immediately discarded!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:45:42 No.29864012 Report

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fuking 620 BST wishiwashi whit water spout is gonna be broken if can lead a trick room he can basically 1HKO all with spects except some mons like ferro, definitely a spam mon in VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:46:02 No.29864020 Report

Quoted By: >>29864044

>>29863813
Why the fuck would it need Rapid Spin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:46:30 No.29864032 Report

Quoted By: >>29864045

>>29863664
I kinda like how Toxapex is strong against all three starters

Which newmon might counter it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:47:20 No.29864044 Report

Quoted By: >>29864172 >>29864408

>>29864020

That's kind of why tentacruel was used, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:47:21 No.29864045 Report

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>>29864032
Primarina can beat Toxapex one on one. But that's only because it has ass for offenses.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:48:43 No.29864090 Report

Quoted By: >>29864276

>>29863638
My man Minior. Shields down, shell smash, he's got everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:51:32 No.29864152 Report

Quoted By: >>29864238 >>29864336

>>29863874
>lvl1 woodhammer

Wait, what?
Why does a puppet learn that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:52:00 No.29864164 Report

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>>29863638
Dhelmise, Toxapex, and Minior are almost guaranteed OU. Golisopod, Ninetails A and Salazzle might be.

All of the Tapus, Xurkitree, Pheromosa, Kartana, Celesteela, Nihilgeo and Buzzwole will all be OU or higher (Pheromosa 99% chance of being banned, Kartana ~70% and Xurkitree ~40% chance IMO).

Many more pokemon that won't make it in smog OU will be useful in either battlespot or VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:52:19 No.29864172 Report

Quoted By: >>29864233

>>29864044
Just because it has Tentacruel's typing doesn't mean it's a Tentacruel clone. Toxapex is a dedicated wall. It has 140+ defenses, Recover, and Regenerator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:53:33 No.29864197 Report

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>>29863892
>No, actually go ahead and include legendaries/ultra beasts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:54:41 No.29864233 Report

Quoted By: >>29864303 >>29864312

>>29864172
and it's a good toxic spike setter, and if you want you could go merciless toxic spikes and venoshock, even with no are small amount of investment it'll hit pretty hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:55:03 No.29864238 Report

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>>29864152
It uses the tail like a hammer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:56:35 No.29864276 Report

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>>29864090
My money is on this one, Shell Smash + White Herb + Acrobatics sounds crazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:57:31 No.29864297 Report

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Mimikyu, ofc. I wish it was good enough ;_;. It will at least be usable, though. Just not optimal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:57:45 No.29864303 Report

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>>29864233
That's 300 base power

Jesus Christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:58:10 No.29864312 Report

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>>29864233
*or

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:58:14 No.29864314 Report

Quoted By: >>29864371

Bewear, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:59:01 No.29864336 Report

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>>29864152
The tail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:00:23 No.29864371 Report

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>>29864314
I think this too. Honestly, am I just blind or is nobody giving Bewear any credit? It's bulky as goddamn fuck and unlike other Pokemon like that it's actually pretty threatening too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:01:09 No.29864397 Report

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>Minior
>Salazzle
>Toxapex
>Midday Rockruff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:01:35 No.29864408 Report

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>>29863813
>>29864044

Tentacruel's role is a Rapid Spinner and occasional TSpiker because that's the utility that's available in its movepool. Toxapex is more similar to Alomomola in role: a bulky water with Regenerator that has low attacking stats. It'll function as a wall on stall teams, and almost entirely outclasses Alomomola in that role except for its lack of Wish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:01:53 No.29864419 Report

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Probably not OU, but I think Tsareena can succeed in UU or at very least RU with its solid movepool and bulk. If only it was faster though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:02:31 No.29864436 Report

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>>29863638
Regenerator Toxapex, surely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:03:01 No.29864446 Report

Quoted By: >>29864595 >>29864606

What are good sets for Minior, Salazzle, and Midday Rockruff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:03:16 No.29864456 Report

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>>29863638
Toxapex, minior, kommo-o, maybe salazzle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:06:52 No.29864565 Report

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Toxapex, Minior, Kommo-o, Bewear, Dhelmise, Golisopod, Salazzle, Mudsdale, Ribombee, and Lycanroc Midday all seem to me to be strong enough to fall into OU and BL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:08:13 No.29864595 Report

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>>29864446
Minior @ White Herb
Jolly Nature 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Def
~Acrobatics
~Shell Smash
~Earthquake
~Stone Edge/Substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:08:43 No.29864606 Report

Quoted By: >>29864657

>>29864446
Minior's only common sets will be white herb shell smash + edgequake + acrobatics and lead stealth rock + boom.
Salazzle will probably run nasty plot + dual stabs + filler (sub, encore, taunt, WoW, toxic, hidden power, dragon pulse, knock off), or ditch NP for another filler move.
No idea for the daydog. Maybe swords dance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:10:37 No.29864657 Report

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>>29864606
probably SD, accelrock, etc.
with talonflame gone a lot of bug pokemon like volcarona and mega pinsir will rise so a rock type priority move will probably be very helpful

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