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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:28:56 No.30320756 View View Reply Original Report

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>On the second island
>Trainers are still using only one pokemon

OK, what the fuck is with this shit? Does this continue on for the rest of the game? I can't fathom why anyone thought this was a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:30:05 No.30320781 Report

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>>30320756

On the third island they still use 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:35:11 No.30320900 Report

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>>30320756
not even the battle to defend your title people use 6 mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:35:54 No.30320916 Report

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>>30320756
>end game trainers with five balls
No thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:36:59 No.30320941 Report

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>muh 4 caterpies

Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:37:13 No.30320948 Report

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It's fine. If you accidentally run into a trainer or area you missed on your first pass, do you really want to fight 6 lvl 20 shits with your lvl 60+ team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:42:16 No.30321059 Report

Quoted By: >>30321123

So there are a few battles that are more difficult than anything in XY/ORAS but the rest of the game is just as easy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:44:52 No.30321123 Report

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>>30321059
Yes. Like every Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:46:04 No.30321168 Report

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Wild pokemon is where the challenge is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:47:37 No.30321213 Report

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>>30320756
>I want trainers to cockblock me from progressing
(you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:49:02 No.30321240 Report

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>>30321123
As someone who has played AS, Platinum, and White recently, no. I haven't got Sun yet but I was really hoping it would be along the lines of gen 2 - 5 difficulty, not gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:53:14 No.30321339 Report

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Agreed. Instead of one makihita, why not three makuhitas?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:53:55 No.30321358 Report

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>>30320756
gamefreak really changed the way maximum pokemon numbers are handled.

Prior, you could find the odd trainer with 6 pokemon (well, 6 magikarp let's be real here) but in Sun Moon having 6 pokes is an absolute privilige only reserved for the absolute top dogs. I guess it's supposed to make them stand out

I wouldn't say it's bad, just different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:56:02 No.30321417 Report

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>>30320756
After a certain point I get sick of battling random trainers and want to get to the end of the route. Do you really want every battle to be three Pokemon?

That being said, being able to rematch trainers in the postgame where they have more Pokemon to grind EXP off of would be nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:56:42 No.30321441 Report

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>>30320756
I think Gamefreak thinks People use 4 Pokemon max.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:57:52 No.30321471 Report

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>>30320756
If I remember correctly, an NPC said that it's really difficult for trainers to raise more than one or two Pokemon, let alone six.
Only the best of the best can raise full teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 19:59:07 No.30321499 Report

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>>30321240
Gen 2 and 3 have garbage difficulty. Platinum and BW/B2W2 are likely harder, but SM is a lot better with their difficulty curve than XYORAS.

That being said, trainers do tend to use 1-2 Pokémon barring the route miniboss trainer and some of the final trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:00:35 No.30321540 Report

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>>30320756
>>30320941
>muh extremes

That being bad doesnt mean they had to go so far in the other direction

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:02:15 No.30321586 Report

Quoted By: >>30321721 >>30322023 >>30323695

I remember in previous games trainers like fisherman would have a team of 6 magi Karla and shit.

Challenge doesn't come from the amount of Pokémon a trainer has. The majority of the time, if a trainer has Pokémon weak to yours, you can easily sweep their entire team regardless of how many Pokémon they have. What matters is the variety of Pokémon, their stats and move sets along with their held item.

Most importantly their AI. We're 7 gens in and very rarely do we ever see trainers switch out their Pokémon to counter an obvious weakness. Is it really that difficult to program the AI being able to switch out their Pokémon accordingly?

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:04:17 No.30321639 Report

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>>30321240
Its harder than all of those games

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:06:31 No.30321697 Report

Quoted By: >>30321811 >>30321892 >>30325351

>expecting difficulty in a game for 7 year olds

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:06:50 No.30321707 Report

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>>30320756
GEE IF ONLY HAVING LESS POKEMON MADE THE GAME FUCKING EASIER, RIGHT?

IT'S NOT AS IF THE LEVEL CURVE GETS LOWER AND LOWER AND LOWER AND LOWER, BUT INSTEAD GETS HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER.

The less pokemon complaints are complete bullshit, even the Elite Four use 5 pokemon.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:07:24 No.30321721 Report

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>>30321586
The important trainers do switch out pokeys

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:08:39 No.30321755 Report

Quoted By: >>30322350

>fight a guy with one pokemon
>kill it with one hit
"WOAH THAT WAS THE MOST AMAZING BATTLE EVER HOLY SHIT INTENSE HOLY FUCK"

Literally why

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:10:24 No.30321799 Report

Quoted By: >>30321889 >>30321892

>OP points out how lame it is that every trainer only has one mon, no mention of the difficulty at all.
>WOW DIFFICULTY DOESN'T MATTER ITS A KIDS GAME HAVING MORE POKEMON DOESN'T MAKE IT HARDER, WHO CARES ABOUT DIFFICULTY GEEZ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:10:49 No.30321811 Report

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>>30321697
>muh kids argument
does your mommy knows that you browse 4chan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:11:19 No.30321825 Report

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>>30320756
There is quite literally less than ten battles before post-game where a trainer has more than 3 pokemon. That is including the league. Get used to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:13:29 No.30321889 Report

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>>30321799
You've probably noticed by now but almost every time someone makes a thread complaining about any aspect of the game it's derailed into people saying it's dumb to complain about it being easy, even when that has nothing to do with what was originally being complained about.
I really do think it's an intentional deflection tactic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:13:31 No.30321892 Report

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>>30321799
This was literally the only guy in the entire thread that even made that argument. Fuck off retard
>>30321697

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:13:43 No.30321903 Report

Quoted By: >>30322047 >>30322067 >>30322338 >>30325212

One thing is making the games a BIT easier but progressively making them easier and easier to the point that even a brain dead monkey can play it and beat it without a single string of an issue is just fucking retarded. Period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:17:30 No.30322023 Report

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>>30321586
>6 magikarp

You mean 5 magikarp and then SUDDENLY, A GYARADOS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:18:26 No.30322047 Report

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>>30321903
>A monkey won't have difficulty at the totems or major battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:19:04 No.30322067 Report

Quoted By: >>30322182 >>30322262 >>30322362

>>30321903
And what is that called!? Keeping the EXP All on!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:23:01 No.30322182 Report

Quoted By: >>30322342 >>30322433 >>30323904

>>30322067
Except if you turn it off you suddenly get fucked from Poni Island to the league where trainer levels jump from 40 to 55 in two hours. You either keep it on and breeze through 90% of the game and then are the intended level for the last 10%, or you turn it off and are the intended level for the first 90% and then smash into a wall for the last 10%.
The real problem isn't the exp share, it's the game being poorly balanced and having a stupid level curve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:24:41 No.30322243 Report

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>>30320756
While I think the level curve is going in the right direction after XYORAS, the lack of trainers with more than 3 Pokémon is annoying.

Still, I can't say I'm completely disappointed given the final few areas. If a third version becomes a thing I hope they tweak some of this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:25:34 No.30322262 Report

Quoted By: >>30322433

>>30322067
You have to be legit autistic if that alone will bring any sort of difficulty

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:27:52 No.30322338 Report

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>>30321903
But a trainer having a single Hariyama is objectively more difficult than one having a Machop and a Makuhita.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:27:58 No.30322342 Report

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>>30322182

I immediately turned it off when I got it. The game was mildly difficult, just barely, since I didn't grind wild Pokemon. For a Pokemon game, that's impressive level of difficulty.

Then when I got near the end of the second island, for some reason the NPCs stopped going up in level between there and the third island, stuck at 33-35, so I just turned on the exp all and now I'm steamrolling everything.

I tried to stay 3 levels above the highest wild Pokemon and trainers early on, and usually ended up 2 levels higher than the trials and kahunas. Now I'm like 10 levels above everyone. They're still around 36 or so at the end of Po Town while I'm sitting at 45+.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:28:28 No.30322350 Report

Quoted By: >>30322369

>>30321755
>That guy with one pokemon whipes half your team because you try to train your 6 little shits evenly and ignore type advantages

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:28:54 No.30322362 Report

Quoted By: >>30322456 >>30322550 >>30323986

>>30322067
No, it's called
>using Set
>not using Megas or Z-Moves
>using 3 Pokemon Max
>limiting yourself to 4 Non-Ball Items per battle
Basically, you're an Ace Trainer.

>B-BUT MUH SELF-IMPOSED HANDICAPS!!1
No, fuck off. You want a challenge, this is how you're getting it in modern Pokemon without romhacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:29:24 No.30322369 Report

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>>30322350

This is what I did for every game until X/Y. Just send out your Charizard/Venusar/whatever and rape everything. When you hit the Elite Four it'll be like level 75 and do the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:29:30 No.30322374 Report

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>mfw getting swept by Gastlys, Carbinks and Comfeys because I underestimate them

There's a reason they stick to one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:29:33 No.30322376 Report

Quoted By: >>30322700

I heard there is a Sushi High Roller in Malie City? Is it like the one in Lumiose City?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:30:30 No.30322404 Report

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>>30322342
I'm not sure what your point is because that's basically reiterating what I just said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:31:48 No.30322433 Report

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>>30322182
Right, I kept it off the entire time and I was able to get through up to the Champion, but not past.

>>30322262
Keeping the EXP All on is the opposite of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:32:34 No.30322452 Report

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Trainer battles should lock you into using the same amount of Pokemon as the NPC.
You could choose which to use right before the battle, like in the Stadium games.

Pokemon is easy because it is totally rigged in your favor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:32:47 No.30322456 Report

Quoted By: >>30322546 >>30322687

>>30322362
>you have to forcefully and severely handicap yourself to creat a challange
>not wanting GF to push a challange on you from the get go

You fuck off

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:36:00 No.30322546 Report

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>>30322456
Seconded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:36:08 No.30322550 Report

Quoted By: >>30324469

>>30322362
Er, doesn't Set make the game harder than Shift, not easier?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:37:00 No.30322573 Report

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The problem is actually that its just tedious to train a full team when you can't just switch between pokemon for each encounter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:41:28 No.30322687 Report

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>>30322456

Having free switches when opponent's send out a new Pokemon automatically makes the game unwinnable for the opponent. Turn on set style or deal with it. Otherwise Nintendo will have to force permanent set for ingame battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:42:02 No.30322700 Report

Quoted By: >>30322994

>>30322376

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:43:02 No.30322738 Report

Quoted By: >>30322858 >>30322985

>>30321213
>I don't want to play the game, just watch the cutscenes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:47:37 No.30322858 Report

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>>30322738
Play the game in the grass if you just like battling

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:51:54 No.30322985 Report

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>>30322738
play showdown then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:52:19 No.30322994 Report

Quoted By: >>30323035 >>30323054

>>30322700
Either nobody here knows, or cares.

I personally only entered the place, talked to everyone, and left. I didn't buy any meal. Due to how expensive the last place was. It could be slightly cheaper now, I don't know. The only difference I do now is that you aren't blocked from talking to being in the dining hall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:53:48 No.30323035 Report

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>>30322994
thanks, I hope someone actually checked if we can battle there for exp or not.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:54:10 No.30323048 Report

Quoted By: >>30323234 >>30323468

>>30320756
>Just got 4th badge from Nimbasa City
>Trainers are still using 1-2 Pokemon

OK, what the fuck is with this shit? Does this continue on for the rest of the game? I can't fathom why anyone thought this was a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 20:54:16 No.30323054 Report

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>>30322994
Fuck me I butchered that.

The only difference I do know is that you aren't blocked from talking to people being in the dining hall.*

slightly better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:00:38 No.30323234 Report

Quoted By: >>30323401

>>30323048
>8th gym leader
>has only 3 pokemon
jesus what the hell i swear giovanni had five, if not full team when you fought him for the last time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:05:52 No.30323401 Report

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>>30323234

Giovanni has 5 when he's in Viridian. He has like 3 when he's in the Rocket hideout.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:08:36 No.30323468 Report

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>>30323048
All trainers in Alola vs some in Unova?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:14:22 No.30323668 Report

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>>30320916
>fewer trainers but with more pokemon
I would take it over:
>Trainer (name) wants to battle!
>screen fades to black
>Trainer (name) sends out (pokemon)
>Your Pokemon used (move)
>(name)'s (pokemon) fained!
>"(name): WOW YOU SURE DEFEATED ME"
>gained $2,000
>repeat for every trainer(usually 7) on the route

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:15:16 No.30323695 Report

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>>30321586
The dark kahuna guy did exactly that when I fought him. He tried to predict that my Magneton was going to use an electric attack, and brought in Krookodile. He was wrong, and I used flash cannon. OHKO. Still, it was pretty cool that he tried.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:22:36 No.30323904 Report

Quoted By: >>30323964

>>30322182
>game to easy monkeys could do it lol
>what? turn xp share off? but then it's hard!

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:24:14 No.30323964 Report

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>>30323904

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:24:49 No.30323986 Report

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>>30322362
I didn't use a single Z Move and I beat it without having to grind. And you don't even find out what megas are until post game. I only used healing items once in the Lurantis batttle. But fuck Lurantis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:31:26 No.30324214 Report

Quoted By: >>30324281

>>30323964
>guy says game is too braindead easy
>guy replies saying that's what keeping the exp share on is like
>guy replies saying "but it's too hard without exp share"

you're dumb

and yes, i had sex with your mom

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:33:10 No.30324281 Report

Quoted By: >>30324348

>>30324214
You should work on your reading comprehension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:35:29 No.30324348 Report

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>>30324281
>>30324281
how about you learn to read?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 21:39:27 No.30324469 Report

Quoted By: >>30325212

>>30322550
Er, yes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 22:05:40 No.30325212 Report

Quoted By: >>30325230

>>30324469
Okay, but >>30321903 was talking about making the games easier. So isn't not called using Set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 22:06:43 No.30325230 Report

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>>30325212
it's not*...

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 22:09:08 No.30325300 Report

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>>30320756
At least there isn't a fisherman with six Magikarp.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 22:11:05 No.30325351 Report

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>>30321697
>Implying the game isn't harder than any other pokemon game

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 22:12:13 No.30325397 Report

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>>30320756
Yes, but they all have high level pokemon.

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