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Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:33:39 No.30924392 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30924425 >>30924572 >>30924593 >>30924661 >>30924679 >>30924785 >>30925464 >>30925933 >>30926083

What the fuck even is the purpose of this thing
Based on its design and name this thing should boost Attack and Defense, not do what it fucking does
"Boosts Special Defense at the cost of not being able to use Status Moves"
Fuck off whit this cancer Gamefreak, fix your shit right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:35:11 No.30924425 Report

Quoted By: >>30924442

>>30924392
>Things shouldn't have drawbacks to balance out its boons.
Explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:36:08 No.30924442 Report

Quoted By: >>30924525

>>30924425
The only way to make things balanced is to have everything be overpowered, are you new to RPGs or some shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:38:21 No.30924497 Report

Quoted By: >>30925154 >>30925216

Why would it boost Attack? It protects the wearer from assaults, it doesn't aid them in assaulting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:39:28 No.30924525 Report

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>>30924442
And why is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:40:12 No.30924545 Report

Quoted By: >>30924628

OP bulletproof vests protect you from bullets they don't make you shoot bulletproofs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:41:41 No.30924572 Report

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>>30924392
Fuck off shitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:42:57 No.30924593 Report

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>>30924392
You have to be at least 18 to post here

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:44:45 No.30924628 Report

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>>30924545
>shoot bulletproofs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:46:37 No.30924661 Report

Quoted By: >>30924715 >>30927104

>>30924392
>What the fuck even is the purpose of this thing

To be the ultimate noob bait item in the game.

The amount of shitters who think sticking AV on any mon is a good idea is astounding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:47:14 No.30924679 Report

Quoted By: >>30924730

>>30924392
>Based on its design and name this thing should boost Attack and Defense
I wear a jacket now I can punch through walls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:49:27 No.30924715 Report

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>>30924661
Hi OP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:50:18 No.30924730 Report

Quoted By: >>30924785 >>30924977

>>30924679

This is the same game where wearing a headband makes a Pokemon stronger, and wearing a scarf makes them faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:50:37 No.30924739 Report

Quoted By: >>30924817 >>30924827

Maybe you're not using it correctly.

Assault Vest goes best with Pokemon who can take a hit, hit back just as hard, all without requiring status moves. It's best if they have good natural physical bulk and just need to patch up their special defense. If they can also somehow get recovery, the better.

As you can see, the Assault Vest is really only useful for a select amount of Pokemon, but it makes a big difference on those Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:51:51 No.30924759 Report

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you are so fucking stupid, OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:53:33 No.30924785 Report

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>>30924392
>Assault Vests augment physical strength

>>30924730
Either this is a bait thread or you are just autistic enough to not get that not everything has to follow a set pattern

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:53:47 No.30924789 Report

Quoted By: >>30924827

http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue35/assault-vest

>The select few Pokémon that should be holding Assault Vest are slow, bulky tanks that can afford to take a hit and dish out some major damage in return. These Pokémon should have a method of recovering their HP in the form of moves such as Drain Punch and Giga Drain, or the ability Regenerator to recover HP passively. If they can't do this, they can still get away with it if they have resistances to common special attacking types such as Water, Electric, Grass, Fire, Fairy, and Psychic (so not Rhyperior), all while not fitting or only minimally filling the qualities stated in the previous sections.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:55:04 No.30924817 Report

Quoted By: >>30925126 >>30925714 >>30925731 >>30926985

>>30924739
Vasically Assault Vest is the only thing that makes Goodra not the worst psuedo of all time. Nothing will fix Kommo-o's 85 base speed though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 22:55:43 No.30924827 Report

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>>30924739
>>30924789
oh shit

how'd I state exactly what Smogon said years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:03:25 No.30924977 Report

Quoted By: >>30925201 >>30925238

>>30924730
That's a headband? I thought it was like a wristband or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:10:30 No.30925126 Report

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>>30924817
>Nothing will fix Kommo-o's 85 base speed though.
It gets Automatize and Rock Polish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:11:38 No.30925154 Report

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>>30924497
Then why not call it an anti-assault vest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:13:17 No.30925192 Report

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>>30925154
BECAUSE THAT'S A SHITTY NAME FOR IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:13:43 No.30925201 Report

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>>30924977
Honestly I think it would depend on the pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:14:43 No.30925216 Report

Quoted By: >>30926312

>>30925154
>>30924497
An Assault Vest aids in the assault, it doesn't permit it or act against it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:16:18 No.30925238 Report

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>>30924977
Nips like wearing headbands, they do it in kamikaze attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:16:36 No.30925246 Report

Quoted By: >>30925440

>>30925126
And its attack is too low to run that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:17:36 No.30925265 Report

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>>30925126
>Gen VII
>Speed buffs matter

Have fun against my 0 Speed IV Toxapek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:23:34 No.30925364 Report

Quoted By: >>30925386 >>30925702 >>30925757 >>30926206

Alright you shits, here's the criteria for assault vest users
-High HP with passable sp.def is worth more than low HP with high sp.def
-Movepool that consists of attacks that offer utility, recovery, priority or pivoting. (rapid spin, drain punch/leech life, dragon tail, bullet punch/aqua jet, u-turn/volt-switch)
-Abilities that offer sustainability or immunities, (regenerator, sap sipper, lightning rod, guts)
When using assault vest your aim is to tank attacks you would usually not be able to take, and hit back. You can act as a bulky pivot if you have recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:25:12 No.30925386 Report

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>>30925364
Ass Vest Careful Regirock with drain punch in a sandstorm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:28:24 No.30925440 Report

Quoted By: >>30925750

>>30925246
So you never heard of Double Dance?
Automatize + Z-Drum can sweep teams when pulled off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:29:33 No.30925464 Report

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>>30924392
I thought it boosted defense and special df.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:44:48 No.30925702 Report

Quoted By: >>30925721 >>30926164 >>30926340 >>30927184

>>30925364
Incinceroar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:45:34 No.30925714 Report

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>>30924817
AV Goodra is one of the best specially defensive walls, especially since ice beam and dazzling gleam/moonblast will take a 1/3 of it's HP at most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:45:57 No.30925721 Report

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>>30925702
no, kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:46:59 No.30925731 Report

Quoted By: >>30925808

>>30924817
you know what would fix its speed? Shell smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:48:28 No.30925750 Report

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>>30925440
*when pulled off

Which it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:48:59 No.30925757 Report

Quoted By: >>30925788 >>30926185 >>30926296 >>30926604 >>30926784

>>30925364
Goodra is the only good Assault Vest user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:51:04 No.30925788 Report

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>>30925757
Yeah and goodra is f.e.male only as well too
Bugger off if you don't know anything

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Dec 2016 23:52:28 No.30925808 Report

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>>30925731
>White Herb + Shell Smash on a Kommo-O
You are a fucking madman

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:00:01 No.30925933 Report

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>>30924392
Assvest is GOAT on ttar

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:09:32 No.30926083 Report

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>>30924392
>>30925154
>Based on its design and name this thing should boost Attack and Defense, not do what it fucking does
>"Boosts Special Defense at the cost of not being able to use Status Moves"

Maybe it's called like that because if you used it then you're only gonna attack, thus you wear it if you're planning on assaulting only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:10:56 No.30926101 Report

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To make you rage then post on vp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:15:15 No.30926164 Report

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>>30925702
Once it gets Intimidate, probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:16:49 No.30926185 Report

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>>30925757
Rhyperior, Tangrowth, Gallade(megastone is better though), Escaviler, Ttar, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:18:31 No.30926206 Report

Quoted By: >>30926282

>>30925364
Buzzwole

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:22:56 No.30926282 Report

Quoted By: >>30926298 >>30926301 >>30926622

>>30926206
assault vest leech life Buzzwole!

too bad it doesnt cover flying attacks, which are mostly physical.

Assault vest leech life Buzzwole + Accelerock Lycanrock?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:24:15 No.30926296 Report

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>>30925757

>what is Conkeldurr
>what is Tangrowth

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:24:24 No.30926298 Report

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>>30926282
Considering they're both UU at best, why not.
Who am I kidding Lycanroc is probably RU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:25:15 No.30926301 Report

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>>30926282
It does get Ice Punch and Thunderpunch to mess with them, and enough physical Bulk to hold fast against their attacks.

Give it some Sneaky Sediments to help net KOs on those punches, and that Beast Boost buffing its Atk for stronger Leech Life on non-fliers will easily patch it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:25:57 No.30926312 Report

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>>30925216
It IS assisting in the assault. You put in on something semi tanky and give it 4 attacks. That's an assault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:28:01 No.30926340 Report

Quoted By: >>30926504

>>30925702
I'm breeding one for vgc right now to pair with a trick room setter. Fake out, darkest lariat/crunch/eq, flare blitz, u- turn/leech life, either impish or brave with and assault vest. We'll see how that goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:34:58 No.30926458 Report

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>>30925154
Why don't they call it an anti-winter coat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:37:57 No.30926504 Report

Quoted By: >>30926629

>>30926340
I'll rather just wait until Intimidate becomes legal. Weakening physical attackers upon entry sounds too useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:45:53 No.30926593 Report

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>>30925154

because you don't wear it to ward off assaults

in an assault you are engaging an enemy in closer combat than normal and need to protect yourself from injury without impairing mobility

since an assault is meant to be a decisive attack, it makes sense to forgo status moves since the ultimate goal is to just knock them out

Do you seethe in fury at the fact that we don't call rain coats "anti-water coats"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:46:38 No.30926604 Report

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>>30925757
>escavalier
>mudsdale
>bouffalant
>a million others

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:47:48 No.30926622 Report

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>>30926282
i run mine with power-up punch as well. beast boost does defense for me so its just a bulky punch buggy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:48:11 No.30926629 Report

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>>30926504
Now pair that with my designs already and you have a pretty good vgc mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 00:58:31 No.30926784 Report

Quoted By: >>30926870

>>30925757
Golisopod

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 01:03:08 No.30926870 Report

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>>30926784
As much as I wish I could run a Life Orb on this guy, Assvest makes it a fantastic Greninja check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 01:09:01 No.30926985 Report

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>>30924817
>>30925126
Kommo-o already gets Dragon Dance, its speed is honestly fine. It's already faster than Dragonite and (Mega) Gyarados, both of which are exemplary Dragon Dancers. What it truly lacks is power, especially a strong physical Fighting STAB. Nigga NEEDS Close Combat or someshit. Or just Drain Punch if you want to try an Assault Vest set for funzies. No DD on that, obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 01:16:32 No.30927104 Report

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>>30924661
Its not a fucking noob trap item. Its actually one of the better items you can get but only a select handful of pokemon can use it to its fullest potential. I.e. tanks with draining moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Dec 2016 01:22:14 No.30927184 Report

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>>30925702
Once it gets intimidate, yes. It'll be one of the best assault vest users in the game most likely. But until then, you'll have to make due with blaze. I'm running an ass vest Incineroar myself and it helped me get to battle 50 in the battle tree it was so tanky.

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