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Post some of your favourites and let /vp/ buff them

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:07:08 No.31498279 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>31498284 >>31498304 >>31498377 >>31498436 >>31498464 >>31499220 >>31502091 >>31503081 >>31503678 >>31508544

Lets try to buff eachothers' favourites (post Pokemon that arent already very good). I'll start you guys off with my unfortunate boy Zeb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:08:14 No.31498284 Report

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>>31498279
I got something for every somewhat physical electric type

GIVE THEM USABLE STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:11:36 No.31498304 Report

Quoted By: >>31502160 >>31509880

>>31498279
Give it moves, namely Zing Zap and Jump Kick. Sawbuck learns it, so why not?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:13:06 No.31498313 Report

Quoted By: >>31498377 >>31498384 >>31498436 >>31499220 >>31502741

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:22:43 No.31498377 Report

Quoted By: >>31498436

Help, its a crime such an amazing design is worthless in battle.

>>31498279
10-20 more attack
access to zing-zap
MAKE A GOOD PHYSICAL ELECTRIC MOVE
and maybe some better coverage, and access to swords dance.

>>31498313
its already amazing, one of the best mons introduced this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:24:59 No.31498384 Report

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>>31498313
Just give it +30 to each defence in shield form. Makes setting up easier, and there's really no reason for core form to have a higher BST

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:32:27 No.31498436 Report

Quoted By: >>31498449 >>31508613

>>31498279
Make it a special attacker
Or give it zingzap and flare blitz
>>31498313
Minior is fine its like Aerodactyle and cloysters love child
>>31498377
Scald and recover
There is no excuse that a ice type gets scald now that crabrawler gets its

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:33:54 No.31498449 Report

Quoted By: >>31498662

>>31498436
New HA: Fertilizer
>This pokemon is healed by Ground type attacks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:35:30 No.31498464 Report

Quoted By: >>31498662

>>31498279
>slow
>mixed attacker
>physical electric type

Just fuck my shit up senpai

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:57:49 No.31498662 Report

Quoted By: >>31508613

>>31498464
I always thought Eelektross should be a defensive Mon, what with having no weaknesses and all. Boost it's defences and it's fine imo.

>>31498449
Give it priority moves and +20 to Attack to go all out

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 15:59:01 No.31498674 Report

Quoted By: >>31502702 >>31502718 >>31508613

how do we fix this grass type

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 16:39:08 No.31498976 Report

Quoted By: >>31502048

It's basically tied with Mightyena as the worst Dark-type.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 17:10:33 No.31499220 Report

Quoted By: >>31500133 >>31500363 >>31500479 >>31508632

>>31498279
Give it a Rock Head/Sheer Force clone, or just let recoil moves get the bonuses (but not immunities) from recoil moves and give it Wood Hammer.

>>31498313
Two words: Priority recovery. A +1 priority move that heals to just over 50% HP and manually activates Shields Up would be a godsend.
Failing that, literally any priority or recovery would be good enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 18:41:35 No.31500133 Report

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>>31499220
>or just let recoil moves get the bonuses (but not immunities) from recoil moves
*From immunity abilities. Put Sap Sipper to work.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 19:02:55 No.31500363 Report

Quoted By: >>31502676

>>31499220
>Swap attack and special attack
>Swap sp.def and speed
>+30 to each attack stat (500 BST)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 19:12:28 No.31500453 Report

Quoted By: >>31500468 >>31503081 >>31511709

Help him /vp/, he deserve so much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 19:13:32 No.31500468 Report

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>>31500453
dark type would have helped,
volt tackle would help
Fairy would make it good cause muh light type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 19:14:52 No.31500479 Report

Quoted By: >>31503138

>>31499220
Color change
The pokemon now changes to a type that resists the attacking move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:50:47 No.31502048 Report

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>>31498976
Its got better speed, movepool and ability even with the prankster nerf. Still could use much more.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:54:52 No.31502091 Report

Quoted By: >>31502158

>>31498279
My favorite is unevolved and my other fav is a psuedo so stat changes won't happen. So what about my friend bugmum?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:56:50 No.31502129 Report

Quoted By: >>31502158 >>31502255 >>31502281

Fix me up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:59:20 No.31502158 Report

Quoted By: >>31502281

>>31502091
>bug/grass
As a fellow Grassfag, I honestly want to know if something could help a Pokemon with this many weaknesses. It's probably a worse typing than Bug/Flying or Rock/Ground.
>>31502129
Aren't you beta Toxapex? You're fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 21:59:28 No.31502160 Report

Quoted By: >>31502721

>>31498304
>Give it moves, namely Zing Zap and Jump Kick

It is a special attacker, mang. I guess those would work with Sap Sipper but those tools would better help my friend rapidash. So would high horse power since its the only physical horse and with tutors gone so its drill run which is its only ground move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:06:02 No.31502255 Report

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>>31502129
+20 defense
+10 hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:08:05 No.31502281 Report

Quoted By: >>31502489

>>31502158
At least its not ice/rock, or ice anything but its godawful yes. Still any buffs would help. Its got some utility and better stats than parasect but anything else would be nice. I do not expect it to be the next pelipper but every little bit helps.
>>31502129
You know you are my bro that I love and you could use a bit a help, but you got two things over toxapex that I recall and that is rapid spin which will never be bad and knock off. That is better than nothing and still makes a damn good pokemon even if completely overshadowed by toxapex now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:24:08 No.31502489 Report

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>>31502281
Tentacruel still has shit like hex, giga drain, higher base speed, and rain dish

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:27:04 No.31502522 Report

Quoted By: >>31502676 >>31502736

help my bro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:44:15 No.31502676 Report

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>>31500363
+20 HP, recover and king shield now prevent status and taunt.
>>31502522
A secundary type and more bulk would be enougt to make him really good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:45:46 No.31502702 Report

Quoted By: >>31502718

>>31498674
please help

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:47:29 No.31502718 Report

Quoted By: >>31502787 >>31508649

>>31498674
>>31502702
HA: Dancer
Learns all sorts of dance moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:47:31 No.31502721 Report

Quoted By: >>31502759

>>31502160
it has higher phys attack than special attack (100 compared to 80). only reason it doesnt run physical is lack of physical moves lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:48:31 No.31502736 Report

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>>31502522
Holy shit those attack stats are low. In fact they are not even salvageable without a major buff that would usually call for a mega. Otherwise work more on its defense and speed and make it a decent support mon. Give the poor thing pain split or even recover with a stat buff.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:48:43 No.31502741 Report

Quoted By: >>31502777

>>31498313
aye thats my favorite too. he doesnt need any buffs though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:50:14 No.31502759 Report

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>>31502721
Thats correct. A bit dizzy and was looking at the stats backwards. I see your point now. If fucking snorlax can get high horse power give it zebstrika and rapidash as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:51:49 No.31502777 Report

Quoted By: >>31502803

>>31502741
It does actually. As a physical attacker it is just fine but as a special attacker it has about nothing besides HP and Power gem so it could use more special moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:52:28 No.31502787 Report

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>>31502718
reduce slow start to 2 turns instead of 5
give it rest and protect, make drain punch a level up move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:54:36 No.31502803 Report

Quoted By: >>31502819

>>31502777
a few more special attacks would be nice like maybe earth power or a special flying move, but its current ones aren't that bad. you can always run mixed with psychic eq and some investment to ohko any type of toxapex after smash and out of the core. mixed HP fire is nice to beat mons like ferrothorn or flexing on scizors.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:55:22 No.31502810 Report

Quoted By: >>31503678 >>31508613

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:55:49 No.31502819 Report

Quoted By: >>31502830

>>31502803
I did not know it got psychic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 22:56:43 No.31502830 Report

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>>31502819
also gets dazzling gleam if you really wanna run that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:22:14 No.31503081 Report

Quoted By: >>31503106

>>31500453
>>31498279
nothing will ever be able to fix physical electric types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:24:30 No.31503106 Report

Quoted By: >>31503114

>>31503081
Except more physical electric moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:25:16 No.31503114 Report

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>>31503106
not even that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:28:41 No.31503138 Report

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>>31500479
>going a defensive spread with this ability
>skill swapping this ability

Breaking the meta man

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:40:48 No.31503280 Report

Quoted By: >>31503296 >>31503302 >>31503431

How should vileplume be buffed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:42:40 No.31503296 Report

Quoted By: >>31503431

>>31503280
take 50 out of attack and put 30 in HP and 10 in each defense stat. also thick fat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:43:20 No.31503302 Report

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>>31503280
+40 hp

Klinklang Guy

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Klinklang Guy Mon 23 Jan 2017 23:54:22 No.31503431 Report

Quoted By: >>31503543 >>31503600 >>31505039

>>31503280
Add 30 points to HP and cut 10 from attack. Thick fat, as mentioned by >>31503296 would be great for its defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:02:53 No.31503543 Report

Quoted By:

>>31503431
COVERAGE
and levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:06:34 No.31503600 Report

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>>31503431
Give it +15-20 hp
Give it a non shitty ability
Maybe give it iron head as gear grind is only okay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:11:50 No.31503678 Report

Quoted By: >>31503704

>>31498279
Top Crinoid

>>31502810
More def and hp maybe a second ability in flame body and some kind of recovery

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:13:28 No.31503695 Report

Quoted By: >>31503753 >>31503772 >>31505068

he's bested by the fairies every time ;-;

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:13:43 No.31503704 Report

Quoted By: >>31508668

>>31503678
ditch the rock typing. give it support moves.

>Cradily leans brine now

huh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:15:03 No.31503728 Report

Quoted By: >>31508111 >>31508681

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:16:31 No.31503753 Report

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>>31503695
Real unfortunate case. Before fairies it was totally usable and probably the last pseudo to actually be a pseudo. I can't think of how to make it better with being stupid as fuck broken. If megas ever do somehow come back it might get one I suppose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:17:32 No.31503772 Report

Quoted By: >>31505093

>>31503695
give it sludge bomb/wave and flash cannon at the very least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 00:55:57 No.31504299 Report

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For Zeb, Galvanise. Double Edge, Quick Attack, Return, Thrash. Just... Damn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 01:53:56 No.31505039 Report

Quoted By:

>>31503431
technician and coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 01:55:28 No.31505068 Report

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>>31503695
-4 in both defenses, -5 HP, and put that 13 in its speed so it outspeeds base 110's. instant OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 01:56:33 No.31505093 Report

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>>31503772
anon it has flash cannon already

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 02:42:56 No.31505651 Report

Quoted By: >>31505697 >>31508620

Hard mode: Don't change any of its stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 02:47:55 No.31505697 Report

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>>31505651
simple quiver dance earth power

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 02:48:35 No.31505712 Report

Quoted By: >>31508613

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 06:00:56 No.31507947 Report

Quoted By: >>31508613

Fix my shit up

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 06:02:41 No.31507968 Report

Quoted By: >>31508490 >>31508505

Leech seed, would make the pathetic hp actually useful in a way. It could probably outstall chansey.

Klinklang Guy

Klinklang Guy Tue 24 Jan 2017 06:24:11 No.31508111 Report

Quoted By: >>31512078

>>31503728
211/103/73/67/73/43
It's bulkier now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:20:34 No.31508490 Report

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>>31507968
Yknow, Shuckle SHOULD get Leech Seed, what with his berry juice making and all. I'm sure he's got plenty of seeds left over in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:22:23 No.31508505 Report

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>>31507968
Also oblivious as the ability

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:29:19 No.31508544 Report

Quoted By: >>31508601 >>31508622 >>31508675 >>31509951

>>31498279
Plz make it not BL2

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:37:06 No.31508593 Report

Quoted By: >>31508630

Alright, let's go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:38:58 No.31508601 Report

Quoted By: >>31508631

>>31508544
needs a new ability at the very least

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:41:27 No.31508613 Report

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>>31498436
Fantastic taste, anon. Move 20 special attack into defense, 5 speed into hp and give it water absorb as an HA. Also shell smash.

>>31498674
Give it dancer and quiver dance

>>31498662
Give it +10 hp and attack and give it wish via egg instead of event

>>31502810
Also excellent taste. +20 hp and move 10 attack into special defense. The fact that it doesn't have lava plume is fucking wrong too.

>>31505712
Already fine enough, but lower that evo level. 49 is absurd. That goes for Rufflet, Vullaby, Pawniard and Meinfoo too.

>>31507947
+20 speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:43:26 No.31508620 Report

Quoted By:

>>31505651
normalize now makes stab x3
cause making every move normal type is a downgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:44:03 No.31508622 Report

Quoted By: >>31508631

>>31508544
remove team preview

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:45:41 No.31508630 Report

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>>31508593
Snow warning
scarf it with blizzard
allow it to be male for all that sweet sweet froslass cock

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:45:40 No.31508631 Report

Quoted By: >>31508648

>>31508601
At least make Illusion as which pokemon you wish to imitate every time its sent out. Plus it mimics the abilities too, ie Physic Terrain SAYS it makes the battlefield get weird and the effects show up, but no stats change. So while it says physic terrain is up priority moves still work. This ability would then drop when hit (maybe later) and the fake terrain would go away.

Also fuck team preview like >>31508622
said

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:45:45 No.31508632 Report

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>>31499220
Increase its bulk mostly, especially in HP. A Protean Tank has a lot of potential to be interesting, and Kecleon is almost there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:47:59 No.31508642 Report

Quoted By: >>31508669 >>31508675

Finding one of such a pain in the ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:49:12 No.31508648 Report

Quoted By:

>>31508631
needs a little more bulk as well imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:49:24 No.31508649 Report

Quoted By:

>>31502718
Let it learn Protect and Rest.
After the 5 turns are up, it gains +1 atk and speed at the end of every turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:52:54 No.31508668 Report

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>>31503704
wouldnt that just give it one more weakness? and lose a very unique typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:52:58 No.31508669 Report

Quoted By: >>31508691

>>31508642
Type Change, Flying/Bug is an awful defensive typing.

Bug/Steel is good, but overused. Bug/Rock, perhaps?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:53:42 No.31508675 Report

Quoted By: >>31508707 >>31508763

>>31508544
When disguised the next hit done by the Pokemon is counted as plus 1 in terms of damage.

So for example if you are choice specs you get a plus 2 to your next special or a plus 1 to your next physical attack till your disguise is broken. Things like that.

>>31508642
Bug/Steel would make it immensely better. Right now it's just a bad typing with not enough bulk to really allow it to survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:54:47 No.31508681 Report

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>>31503728
take stats from atk or spatk and put them into def and spdef

or if you really wanna get to the root of the problem get rid of one of its types

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:56:19 No.31508691 Report

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>>31508669
rock would be too weird
pure bug could work,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 07:58:27 No.31508707 Report

Quoted By: >>31509716

>>31508675
It already has a great support moveset, so more bulk I guess. Maybe give it another type as well, but I don't know what synergizes with grass.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 08:07:12 No.31508763 Report

Quoted By: >>31508803 >>31508845

Shouldn't be too hard, GameFreak can't buff for shit.

>>31508675
Perhaps a regional form with a completely different typing since Tapu Bulu makes the old Grass/Fairy Mega idea pretty redundant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 08:15:38 No.31508803 Report

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>>31508763
Call it Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 08:25:21 No.31508845 Report

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>>31508763
Give it Quiver Dance.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 11:17:36 No.31509703 Report

Quoted By: >>31511166 >>31511195

Please help my bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 11:20:00 No.31509716 Report

Quoted By:

>>31508707
rock/Grass is good typing
And because meganium is a dinosaur Rock type wouldn't be too much of a stretch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 11:49:17 No.31509880 Report

Quoted By:

>>31498304
Give Sawsbuck Headbutt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 12:02:09 No.31509951 Report

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>>31508544
+15 Speed or Attack to match YOU'RE FAVORITE POKEMON's BST.
Actual coverage besides Flamethrower and Focus Miss. Why the fuck can't this thing learn most of the TM's? A sneaky fox can't learn Poison Jab but literally everything else can? It can breathe fire but not a kanji shaped one? Give me a fucking break.
I thought this thing might get a special Z-move for Night Daze too. How about one that switches you out after nuking your opponent like U-turn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 15:18:31 No.31511166 Report

Quoted By: >>31511195

>>31509703
make defeatist activate at 1/3 hp left

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 15:20:47 No.31511183 Report

Quoted By: >>31511839

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 15:22:28 No.31511195 Report

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>>31511166
>>31509703
and give flying types a strong physical attack that isn't brave bird

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 16:37:48 No.31511709 Report

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Please help.

>>31500453
Give him a Dark subtyping and some new moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 16:55:04 No.31511839 Report

Quoted By: >>31512071

>>31511183
It's bulky, has great attack, has 2 good abilities, and an okay move pool. All it really needs is more speed, but that's a boring solution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 17:19:44 No.31512071 Report

Quoted By: >>31512109

>>31511839
Braviary has no moves outside crush claw and rock slide to use with sheer force. it's awful on him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 17:21:05 No.31512078 Report

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>>31508111
swap the atk and spatk
guzzlord's special attacking move pool is a bit better than its physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 17:24:16 No.31512109 Report

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>>31512071
That's a better solution then. Give it more physical moves that can take advantage of sheer force

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