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Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 06:03:21 No.32186978 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32187045 >>32187046 >>32189288 >>32189788 >>32190847 >>32192464

>Pokemon gets a name that works perfectly well in french, using "Grenouille" (frog in french), and ninja, wich is, well, ninja in every language.
>Change it to """Amphinobi"""" just to be contrarian shitlords

What the fuck france?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 06:12:42 No.32187012 Report

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Kalos was based on France, so that's the real Greninja name

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 06:21:14 No.32187045 Report

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>>32186978
>Living in a country that changes the american names of Pokémon.
Why does they still do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 06:21:38 No.32187046 Report

Quoted By: >>32187059 >>32189267 >>32192387

>>32186978

That's exactly why, "Greninja" wouldn't sound foreign to French people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 06:24:32 No.32187059 Report

Quoted By: >>32187090 >>32187100

>>32187046
Why does it have to sound foreign?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 06:32:13 No.32187090 Report

Quoted By: >>32189747 >>32190064 >>32190103

>>32187059
Imagine if Greninja was called "Froninja" or "Frogninja" because that's what Greninja would be like to a French speaker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 06:34:51 No.32187100 Report

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>>32187059

because "keep it foreign" is a trope dummy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:29:14 No.32189267 Report

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>>32187046
This is a pretty fucking stupid argument. Why would they change it to sound foreign if they change it to the same language. Also, you sound like someone who hasn't seen the other names the french put on pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:32:26 No.32189288 Report

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>>32186978
This fuckers couldn't even leave the "ninja" part.
Amphinobi, sounds really forced.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:33:36 No.32189293 Report

Quoted By: >>32189314 >>32189371 >>32190076

>Grotadmorv
>From Gros (big) and Tadmorv (the french name for grimer)

Literally "Just gets bigger". Fucking frogs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:37:03 No.32189314 Report

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>>32189293
they're not wrong though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:37:26 No.32189317 Report

Quoted By: >>32189350

>Lillie's pokemon gets a nickname related to nebula
>everyone outside Asia names it Nebby
>lol let's name it "Doudou" like your mom's plushie

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:42:42 No.32189350 Report

Quoted By: >>32190005 >>32191341 >>32192434

>>32189317
Wölkchen! :3

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:43:12 No.32189355 Report

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>A clam
>Name it Crustabri
> from crustacé (Crustacean) and abri(shelter)

It's a mollusc, France. I mean, the german are bad but france should just fucking stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:45:28 No.32189371 Report

Quoted By: >>32190679 >>32192357

>>32189293
French pokemon names have some swagger desu

Tortank > Blastoise
Ectoplasma > Gengar

Some are just perfect, because they keep the original sense:

Bulbizarre: Bulbe(bulb) + bizarre (strange)
Carapuce: carapace (shell) + puce (flea, is also used to talk about small things in general)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:46:50 No.32189383 Report

Quoted By: >>32189753

The french naming formula for 2 stage mons seems to be

Animal or thing + petite/ mignon > animal or thing with a letter more or a letter less

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:49:02 No.32189393 Report

Quoted By: >>32189801

To any French speaker here, there's this great interview of Julien Bardakoff, the translator of the two first generation games.
https://youtu.be/_a65mmTtCis

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 16:55:13 No.32189444 Report

Quoted By: >>32193408

I was afraid to see what they did with Darmanitan, being based on a foreign concept and all.

>Darumacho

It's better than the english one to be honest.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 17:43:43 No.32189738 Report

Quoted By: >>32190005 >>32190035

Don't forget this "gem"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 17:44:52 No.32189747 Report

Quoted By: >>32189858

>>32187090
>most iconic Pokemon ever is just char + lizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 17:45:09 No.32189753 Report

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>>32189383
>Animal or thing + petite/ mignon
Usually the "petite" is shortened to "ti"

>Animal or thing with a letter more or a letter less
Or with phonetic substituted letters ("k" for hard "c", "o" instead of "au" or vice versa, etc.)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 17:49:23 No.32189788 Report

Quoted By: >>32189967

>>32186978
Don't forget that in Quebec, they used to use the English names so "Greninja" would have been perfect for them had they continued. Now they share all their translations with France/Belgium and use all their dub names, and the French names are basically a fandom berserk button to older fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 17:51:13 No.32189801 Report

Quoted By: >>32190396

>>32189393
https://www.mariowiki.com/Julien_Bardakoff

He was also the voice of Luigi (in every language) during the early N64 era

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:00:55 No.32189858 Report

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>>32189747
https://youtu.be/LhULU8Pei40

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:26:01 No.32189967 Report

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>>32189788
ZERE'S NO CANADA LIKE FRENCH CANADA
IT'S ZA BEST CANADA IN ZE LAND
ZE OZZER CANADA IS HARDLY CANADA
IF YOU LIVED HERE FOR A DAY YOU'D UNDERSTAND

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:32:13 No.32190005 Report

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>>32189350
>>32189738
>>>/reddit/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:36:00 No.32190035 Report

Quoted By: >>32190110

>>32189738
Pectorius is cool desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:40:21 No.32190064 Report

Quoted By: >>32190396

>>32187090
Not really, because it wouldn't be a portmanteau. There's no G in ninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:42:06 No.32190076 Report

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>>32189293
I guess they wanted to name it "Tadmerd" but couldn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:44:37 No.32190103 Report

Quoted By: >>32190144

>>32187090
More like
>Ninjoad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:45:39 No.32190110 Report

Quoted By: >>32190213

>>32190035
Doesn't change the fact that "Hala" is a perfectly valid and catchy name in every language, and their only excuse for changing it is overblown political correctness concerns because of all the Muslims in France ("Hala" = "Allah" if pronounced in French)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 18:51:30 No.32190144 Report

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>>32190103
It's a combination of 'ninja' and 'choad'

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 19:00:30 No.32190213 Report

Quoted By: >>32190292

>>32190110
>Hala = Allah if pronounced in french

That's not even remotely true

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 19:12:51 No.32190292 Report

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>>32190213
>That's not even remotely true

French anon here, it is true. The letter H is /always/ silent when speaking the language. This is also why French people keep forgetting to use the "huh" sound in English words.
I mean, my dad can't even pronounce "Honda car" properly without it sounding like "Onda car."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 19:31:31 No.32190396 Report

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>>32189801
Yeah, he tells about it in the interview, it was a pure coincidence as he entered the dubbing room when they were doing Mario kart 64 and asked if he could do it.

>>32190064
What he means is that it would be too simple and hence, not credible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 20:07:59 No.32190679 Report

Quoted By: >>32190695

>>32189371
Don't forget the best ones.
Pyroar => Nemelios (from Nemean Lion and Helios god of the sun)
Golbat => Nosferalto

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 20:09:33 No.32190695 Report

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>>32190679
>Nosferalto
not gonna lie, that's sorta badass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 20:27:22 No.32190847 Report

Quoted By: >>32191309

>>32186978
Amphinobi is a badass name though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 21:19:53 No.32191309 Report

Quoted By: >>32192385

>>32190847
>Amphinobi is just Amphibious + Shinobi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 21:24:19 No.32191341 Report

Quoted By: >>32191369

>>32189350
>Woelkchen is actually a kind of adorable name if you know how to pronounce German.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 21:28:18 No.32191369 Report

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>>32191341
I know, it's sweet actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 23:51:06 No.32192357 Report

Quoted By: >>32192417

>>32189371
I'm French and "tortank" is a shitty name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 23:54:23 No.32192385 Report

Quoted By: >>32192448

>>32191309
It's still an acoustically pleasing portmanteau. Way better than just combining frog and ninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 23:54:27 No.32192387 Report

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>>32187046
that's retarded

It's not like Rapidash and Qwilfish sound foreign to english speakers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Mar 2017 23:58:56 No.32192417 Report

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>>32192357
I think it's one of those ironic cases where English-speakers like the French name better than French-speakers.
http://www.dorkly.com/post/56223/toplist-results-the-15-greatest-generation-i-pokemon/page:4
http://notallpokemonareequal.blogspot.ca/2009/11/no-009-blastoise.html

While "Blastoise" is essentially part of the lexicon nowadays, it's a really nonintuitive name, though it does work as an evolution of Squirtle: "Squirt" + "turtle" -> "Blast" + "tortoise". Though in that case Wartortle should have been named "Jetortle" or something to be part of the progression too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 00:00:56 No.32192434 Report

Quoted By: >>32193520

>>32189350
>nebulilla
Spanish was a mistake

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 00:02:21 No.32192448 Report

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>>32192385
Wouldn't "Amphobi" be better and more catchy? Or is it just to us English-speakers while French-speakers are used to every localized Pokémon name having a million syllables

>While we're at it, let's think of stereotypical French names for this guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 00:05:24 No.32192464 Report

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>>32186978
Pokemon translators work with the Japanese names, not the English ones. Always better to work on the initial version rather than going through a Chinese whispers process.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 00:06:33 No.32192472 Report

Quoted By: >>32192505

On the other hand, this guy is called "Katagami" in French AND German, which is really clever and would work in any language including Japanese (hence why it's used in two languages already, French and German share quite a few names between them but not other languages)
>"Katana" + "origami", sounds like "Yatogami"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 00:12:26 No.32192505 Report

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>>32192472
Gami also means just "paper"

It pretty much ends up just being a pseudo-Japanesey equivalent of "papercut"

So it's eh, don't think it'd work very well in actual Japanese

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 00:17:33 No.32192533 Report

Quoted By: >>32192615

ok but sheauriken is an a-grade pun

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 00:18:07 No.32192538 Report

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Is this the best french pokemon name ever made?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 00:26:42 No.32192615 Report

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>>32192533
It just feels like the exact French analogue of "scalchop" or "seamitar"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 02:19:41 No.32193408 Report

Quoted By: >>32193428

>>32189444
>Darumacho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 02:23:04 No.32193428 Report

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>>32193408
Be grateful for what you have

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 02:38:40 No.32193520 Report

Quoted By: >>32194193

>>32192434
>Nebulilla
that's adorable, but it makes me think a little too much of ''polilla'', which means moth in spanish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 04:16:15 No.32194193 Report

Quoted By: >>32194211

>>32193520
In spanish you can add "illa" to almost anything and make it diminutive (except polilla, wich is an actual full word, a polililla is not a thing).
This is however a "Spain" thing mostly, Latin america goes with the "ita" or "ito" diminutive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 04:19:51 No.32194211 Report

Quoted By: >>32194217

>>32194193
Anon, i know, i speak spanish
but you're right about everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 04:21:37 No.32194217 Report

Quoted By: >>32194254

>>32194211
Sorry my dude. Just wanted to point out that the nebulilla translation is not universal.
On the other hand Nebulita sounds even worse, like a midget stripper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2017 04:27:39 No.32194254 Report

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>>32194217
yeah, they should've keep it as Nebby, it's not like it sounds weird, but then again we're speaking of the spanish adaptation of the games, where they change every name for no real good reason except for the pokemon, thank god they didn't tried to change the pokemon names.

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