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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:24:51 No.32828295 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>32828393 >>32828405 >>32828413 >>32828420 >>32828425 >>32828566

What is the worst fully evolved pokemon that wasn't intentionally made to be shit, like Delibird and Luvdisc? Pic unrelated.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:26:17 No.32828306 Report

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:28:01 No.32828322 Report

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Meganium

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:28:43 No.32828331 Report

Quoted By: >>32828337 >>32828360

Delcatty? I know they upped its BST but I'm pretty sure it's still the lowest.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:30:57 No.32828337 Report

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>>32828331
I guess Farfetch'd too, since it got a massive +25 boost to attack this gen

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:33:41 No.32828360 Report

Quoted By: >>32828395 >>32828566

>>32828331
Delcatty seems like one of the intentionally shit pokemon, since it follows in the line of Persian and other early route pokemon.

Persion, Delcatty, Liepard, Purugly are all in the same group

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:35:34 No.32828374 Report

Quoted By: >>32828389 >>32828391

>>32828306
Reminder that PUcineroar exists

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:37:25 No.32828389 Report

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>>32828374
At least Incineroar has a niche in doubles. Decidueye and Primarina are a complete joke in that format.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:37:41 No.32828391 Report

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>>32828374

He'll go up a tier once it gets its HA.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:37:50 No.32828393 Report

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>>32828295
vikavolt

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:38:15 No.32828395 Report

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>>32828360
>Persian
It has high speed, good abilities, and decent moves. It's quite good for in-game and not *completely* unusuable in competitive

>Liepard
They gave it an excellent ability in Prankster and the moves to utilize it, and it's also fast. They definitely put some effort into it.

>Purugly
It's fast and used as Mars's ace, something they wouldn't do if its stats were truly shit.

Delcatty is by far the worst of the cats.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:39:20 No.32828405 Report

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>>32828295
Ursaring.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:40:25 No.32828413 Report

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>>32828295

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:41:44 No.32828420 Report

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>>32828295
This faggot from Gen II, Gen of Shitmons

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:42:26 No.32828425 Report

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>>32828295
Watchog or Lurantis.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:44:01 No.32828432 Report

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>>32828413
This abomination is 10x worse than Rhyperior and I don't care what anyone says.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:44:16 No.32828434 Report

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>>32828420
Probably this, but they seem to be acknowledging its shittiness now. They didn't buff it, of course.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:45:26 No.32828441 Report

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>>32828434
>they seem to be acknowledging its shittiness now
?

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:45:41 No.32828443 Report

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>>32828432
you mean design-wise?
Because Rhyperior's stats, moves and abilities aren't bad. But it is screwed by its typing.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:46:26 No.32828450 Report

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>>32828391
maybe in doubles, but how much can intimidate actually save a mon? luxray has intim but it's still shitting it up in PU.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:50:28 No.32828480 Report

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>>32828389
Primarina might be a joke, but it still gets more usage than Incineroar even in doubles, so there's not much to brag about.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:51:48 No.32828495 Report

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>>32828450
luxray is a physical electric type

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 22:55:49 No.32828519 Report

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>>32828443
Yeah, design wise. Picked Rhyperior to compare it to since it seems to get the most hate of the cross-gen evos when clearly Ambipom deserves it.

Actually, the competitive viability of all cross gen evos is all over the board. There are a few that are really good but the rest are basically pointless. That and the inconsistency of how good mega evolutions are makes me believe GF has no idea what they're doing and is just lucky whenever they actually manage to buff something.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 23:01:30 No.32828566 Report

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>>32828295
>>32828360
Where do you draw the line between something being "intentionally" shit?

I guess Cherrim is pretty bad. Its gimmick isn't that great either.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 23:01:59 No.32828569 Report

Quoted By: >>32828607

>>32828480
Usage doesn't mean that much if Prima it's in a
"used a lot for some reason but it sucks" case like UU Dhelmise or Gen 5 OU Donphan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 23:06:01 No.32828607 Report

Quoted By: >>32828641

>>32828569
I agree, but Incineroar isn't that groundbraking either. Primarina and Decidueye are bad, but so is Incineroar.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 23:11:14 No.32828641 Report

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>>32828607
So are most starters, as a result of their horribly balanced stat distributions. Honestly fuck Greninja and megas for making everyone thirsty for the next S rank OU starter. But their BSTs are still too high for any of them to be considered for this thread.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 23:13:24 No.32828651 Report

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>>32828641
I think Meganium can be an exception since it manages to be shit even in PU. Unless if GF intentionally fucked it over or something

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 23:14:57 No.32828656 Report

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>>32828566
>Where do you draw the line between something being "intentionally" shit?
Intentionally shit as I would see it as; an early route mon like butterfree or beedril. From a gameplay design the player is only supposed to use them for a brief period before swapping for something that has more viability later in the game.
Likewise, some pokemon that are heavily favored by villainous teams, like mightyena appear to only really be designed from the perspective that the player with only be facing them as enemies and never use them on their team. Kind of why golbats are on every mook's team, but Crobats are rare and exclusive to bosses

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 23:16:24 No.32828667 Report

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>>32828389
>At least Incineroar has a niche in doubles
That Arcanine does infinitely better.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2017 23:17:03 No.32828676 Report

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Sunflora

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Anonymous Thu 22 Jun 2017 00:20:32 No.32829107 Report

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>>32828441
it's SM dex entry. They basically admitted Ledian was a mistake, and theres no way to fix it unless you give it a broken exclusive ability, like Parental Bondx2

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Anonymous Thu 22 Jun 2017 00:32:15 No.32829190 Report

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>>32828519

Rhyperior is an evolution of a gen 1 mon and so people actually care about it. Most people forgot Aipom exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Jun 2017 00:48:25 No.32829308 Report

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>>32828441
pokedex entry in either sun or moon says it punches a lot but doesn't do much damage

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Anonymous Thu 22 Jun 2017 00:50:47 No.32829328 Report

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>>32829107
>theres no way to fix it unless
Ledian only has a bst of 390, they could buff it no problem

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