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Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:48:46 No.33693625 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>33693653 >>33693656 >>33693657 >>33693670

>most viable gen 7 pokemon
>5th most viable uber pokemon
>top tier design
>great animations
>awesome typing
>cute
>cool z-move
How did it all go so fucking right lads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:50:57 No.33693645 Report

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You forgot the part where the Z-Move is not only cool, its also a viable option.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:52:19 No.33693653 Report

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>>33693625
You forgot
>best waifu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:52:26 No.33693656 Report

Quoted By: >>33693662 >>33693850 >>33694311

>>33693625
>Primal Groudon is the best Pokemon in Ubers
>Primal Groudon is the 2nd best Pokemon to exist so far
>not having Primal Groudon on your Uber team basically means death
>Primal Groudon basically IS Ubers
How do we stop Primal Groudon?????

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Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:52:26 No.33693657 Report

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>>33693625
But anon, we already have a Marshadow thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:53:29 No.33693662 Report

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>>33693656
When the world floods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:54:05 No.33693666 Report

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>>33693662
>Desolate Land
we gotta find another option

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:55:02 No.33693670 Report

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>>33693625
>Arceus-Ground
>S
What

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:56:23 No.33693680 Report

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>>33693670
Primal Groudon, I'd assume

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:56:30 No.33693682 Report

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>>33693670
you obviously don't even play Ubers why do you care?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:57:53 No.33693692 Report

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>>33693682
Because I'm curious. Is that so wrong? I do admit I've not touched Ubers in a long while, which is why of my surprise considering vanilla Arceus and Ghost have always been the most viable ones back then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 03:59:39 No.33693705 Report

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>>33693670
>>33693692
Pure Ground is a good typing with the stats Arc has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 04:00:02 No.33693712 Report

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>>33693692
IIRC, Marshadow basically killed Arceus-N.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 04:01:25 No.33693724 Report

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>>33693712
and ghost.
and dark too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 04:24:18 No.33693850 Report

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>>33693656
Funnily enough, primal-groudon is more dominant in ubers than mega rayquaza is in ag just looking through the usage and vr threads. Usage wise P-groudon is used 82% in the 1760, while M-ray is at 67%. VR-wise, primal-groudon is S+ and no one dares to put another mon in the same rank.. Mega-ray is also the only mon in S-rank, but there was some traction for mega-gar. It didn't go anywhere, but it at least shows that it's not untouchable like p-groudon in ubers.

Other fun facts, p-groudon was A-rank in AG. It was closer to dropping to A- at one point. Even now, I think it's only considered the second best ground type there. Xerneas actually was in A-. Marshadow is in A- there right now.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 04:41:53 No.33693973 Report

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baaa baaa baaaa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 04:47:58 No.33694014 Report

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>>33693850
thats because AG is literally just fucking brainless BP teams and pdon can't do shit to them because you need literally an entire fucking team dedicated to stopping BP.

i always encourage everyone who always says in smogon threads "w-well...just learn how to counter it instead of banning it!" to play 10 games of AG. see how fucking long they last.

bet no one has ever finished more than 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 05:42:46 No.33694289 Report

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>>33694014
From what I gathered, the reason why Primal-Groudon was low is because it's easy to wear down. Longevity is important because many team have at least 2 Arceus and they will outlast you since they have recovery.
The two major differences between AG from Ubers seem to be Mega-Rayquaza and species clause. Since Mega-Rayquaza was banned and ubers is averse to banning anything else, I wonder if unbanning species clause will help balance the meta or just fuck it up even more. Hard to think about the potential effect since Mega-ray is also a big influence, but it might actually help. Judging by some of the tournament teams in AG, it's risky to double up on any mon, but Arceus and individually, they aren't overwhelmingly powerful and provide good utility and unique matchup advantages.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2017 05:47:37 No.33694311 Report

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>>33693656

>primal groudon is the best pokémon in ubers
>arceus ground is the third best pokémon in ubers because it's the best mega groudon check
>any team without mega groudon is basically a novelty team

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