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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:17:37 No.34158216 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34158230 >>34158292 >>34158448 >>34158471 >>34158529 >>34159336

4kids may have been cancer, but admit it. The one good thing they did was the pokemon dub. This episode was officially when it went from good to bad to awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:19:31 No.34158230 Report

Quoted By: >>34158269

>>34158216
>The one good thing they did was the pokemon dub.
no they didnt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:22:18 No.34158247 Report

Quoted By: >>34158262

If they hadn't ripped off TV Tokyo so badly they might still be doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:23:39 No.34158260 Report

Quoted By: >>34158269

>good
>unnecessary censorship
>sand which instead of riceballs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:23:41 No.34158262 Report

Quoted By: >>34158338 >>34158343 >>34158602

>>34158247
Do tell

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:24:53 No.34158269 Report

Quoted By: >>34158289

>>34158230
>>34158260
At least they kept the original soundtrack

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:26:58 No.34158289 Report

Quoted By: >>34160310

>>34158269
no they didnt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:27:22 No.34158290 Report

Quoted By: >>34158529 >>34160031

their YGO dub was also better than the jap version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:27:30 No.34158292 Report

Quoted By: >>34158333 >>34159351 >>34160451

>>34158216
>The one good thing they did was the pokemon dub.
They did plenty of good things. The Ultimate Muscle dub, ordering more episodes of Ultimate Muscle when the Japanese version ended on a cliffhanger, TMNT, the Fighting Foodons dub, and Mike Polluk Eggman were all amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:30:18 No.34158320 Report

Quoted By: >>34158396

> I'll turn my trusty frying pan as a drying pan!
> Donuts
> Sandwich
> Blank signs everywhere
> Unnecessary censorship

Not saying they were bad, but it's good to look back and admit they weren't really the best thing ever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:32:12 No.34158333 Report

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>>34158292
Listen to this guy
He knows his shit

Jimmy Neutron !1ahbdFjl0w

Jimmy Neutron !1ahbdFjl0w Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:32:31 No.34158334 Report

Quoted By: >>34158424 >>34158491 >>34160782

I can’t believe you all are defending fucking 4kids. LMAO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:33:01 No.34158338 Report

Quoted By: >>34159226

>>34158262
Pretty sure he's thinking of the Yu-Gi-Oh thing where they did actually breach their contract which led to the lawsuit that bankrupted them, Pokemon though they got the rights taken away before TV Tokyo became a mess

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:33:26 No.34158343 Report

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They at least made something original other than a quick intro song.

>>34158262
They were found to have been hiding $4.7 million in home video sales for the Yu Gi Oh series. It makes you wonder why there was a mutual agreement to not renew the licensing agreement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:39:10 No.34158396 Report

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>>34158320
>implying the drying pan was a bad thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:41:13 No.34158413 Report

Quoted By: >>34158424

Are underages actually defending 4kids now? lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:42:31 No.34158424 Report

Quoted By: >>34158499

>>34158413
>>34158334
>Preferring the TPCi dub
Literally why? Obviously sub is always better but as far as dubs go 4kids did a pretty good job with Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:45:09 No.34158448 Report

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>>34158216
I fucking hate you Max you goddamn piece of shit , you are the reason Hoenn is the worst season.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:47:46 No.34158471 Report

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>>34158216
Polished shit is still shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:50:05 No.34158491 Report

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>>34158334
Jimbo this is you father. Make like a duck and fly away.

Jimmy Neutron !1ahbdFjl0w

Jimmy Neutron !1ahbdFjl0w Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:50:20 No.34158499 Report

Quoted By: >>34158744 >>34159245

>>34158424
TPCi was actually really good back in the DP saga.
>kept all the original music
>original dialogue kept
That’s it. That’s all it takes. Something 4kids never did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:53:03 No.34158529 Report

Quoted By: >>34160012 >>34160417

>>34158216
4Kids dub was utter dogshit, OP.

- Replacing the original music like DuArt does now.
- Changing the script around to include more jokes or shipfuel.
- Known for edits, mistranslations and Americanization.

>>34158290
Okay, this has to be bait, because they butchered Yu-Gi-Oh! even more than Pokemon.

There was no dub 4Kids did that was good. Every dub that their hands touched turned to shit.

This thread is either some 4Kids shill or bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:55:29 No.34158546 Report

Quoted By: >>34158588

With as much music as 4Kids kept, I'm surprised the OST doesn't get more recognition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KoiqvjG7eA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:56:13 No.34158555 Report

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Honestly 4kids was a shitty company that didn't even pay VA's for doing commercials. However it was because of 4kids that we got the Christmas album which was voiced in about a week according to veronica Taylor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 04:59:25 No.34158588 Report

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>>34158546
That's because 4Kids didn't keep most of the music. They actually started to replace it significantly in Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 05:00:13 No.34158602 Report

Quoted By: >>34158613 >>34159050

>>34158262
It went something like this:
>TVTokyo sees 4kids made Pokemon a hit and licenses them Yugioh
>TVTokyo mistakenly assumes 4kids are also home release distributors and writes up the contract in a way that 4kids and TVTokyo both get half of any home release
>4kids misunderstands the wording and assumes TVTokyo knows they don't distribute their own DVDs, so they think the contract means 4kids get half and the distributor gets half
>nobody notices the discrepancy for years
>about a decade later, TVTokyo gets mad at 4kids for putting subbed episodes of the show online, claiming that only they can distribute the Japanese version (it later turned out 4kids DID have the rights to do it)
>while making a case against them, TVTokyo finally noticed how 4kids had been slicing the home release profits
>TVTokyo sued them hard over it
>they also sued them for releasing Yugioh episodes on the GBA player, because the contract didn't technically specify "GBA cartage" as a home video format

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 05:02:09 No.34158613 Report

Quoted By: >>34158619

>>34158602
The thing is though this happened long after TPCi took the dubbing rights from 4kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 05:03:07 No.34158619 Report

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>>34158613
Yeah, the Yugioh thing has nothing to do with Pokemon at all. It is the reason 4kids finally went under, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 05:19:53 No.34158744 Report

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>>34158499
TPCi does crappy wooden translations instead of localizing well. 4Kids watered everything down which sucked, but I always liked that it didn’t “sound” like an anime dub. The dialogue was more natural than you’d expect in anime, if you get what I mean. (And this is all just my opinion.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 05:53:09 No.34159050 Report

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>>34158602
>about a decade later, TVTokyo gets mad at 4kids for putting subbed episodes of the show online, claiming that only they can distribute the Japanese version (it later turned out 4kids DID have the rights to do it)
They had the rights to everything apart from Shunsuke Kazama's voice, since he had a special contract. Since he voices Yugi, you can't exactly edit his voice out either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:15:10 No.34159226 Report

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>>34158338
And they still dragged any chance of a good YGO dub down with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:17:25 No.34159245 Report

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>>34158499
Now it has no soul even FuniPiece bearly keeps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:26:28 No.34159336 Report

Quoted By: >>34160002

>>34158216

was this the first episode another company took over or something?

Did all of the voices just instantly change overnight for this episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:28:11 No.34159351 Report

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>>34158292

I like the Right Back At Ya voices as well. Maybe it's an ironic love, but I can't see Dedede without that accent

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 07:52:57 No.34160002 Report

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>>34159336
Yep, one day Brock and James were Eric Stuart, the next they were Bill Rodgers and Jimmy Zoppi. all of the old voices just gone and these new voices that they just expected everyone to accept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 07:54:42 No.34160012 Report

Quoted By: >>34160277

>>34158529
>butchered

It made it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 07:57:53 No.34160031 Report

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>>34158290
it is funny in its own way but they butchered the plot so hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 08:46:05 No.34160277 Report

Quoted By: >>34160289

>>34160012
>Obvious bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 08:47:43 No.34160289 Report

Quoted By: >>34160320 >>34160402

>>34160277
>Obvious weeb

The show is 100% more entertaining dubbed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 08:49:38 No.34160310 Report

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>>34158289
Go watch the Butterfree episode you gigantic faggot

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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 08:51:51 No.34160320 Report

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>>34160289
Too lazy to find the Wishiwashi one

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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 09:06:22 No.34160402 Report

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>>34160289
Good enough, >>34160320 ?

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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 09:08:53 No.34160417 Report

Quoted By: >>34160634

>>34158529
>He didn't like the pirate rap

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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 09:14:32 No.34160451 Report

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>>34158292
How can you not bring up their single-greatest contribution?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWM0uoQ8x8
For shame, anon. For shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 09:15:42 No.34160458 Report

Quoted By: >>34161646

One thing I noticed when watching the Yu-Gi-Oh marathon on Twitch is that 4kids filled a lot of deadzones with dialogue that wasn't there, usually jokes (much of which were pretty funny honestly)

It seems like they gave dubbing a very hyperactive approach, whether to make kids not bored when watching, or to add more "flavor." Adversely, more introspective scenes with Yugi and dry responses were cut out.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 09:17:12 No.34160464 Report

Quoted By: >>34160505 >>34160685

>pokemon will never be fully subbed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 09:26:56 No.34160505 Report

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>>34160464
I've been saying for ages that official PokeAni subs are a goldmine people sleep on, so many scenes from the Sun & Moon anime get shared on social media despite nobody really watching the show because a direct (or perhaps legal) venue doesn't exist.

Dragon Ball Super was picked up by Crunchyroll and the viewership blew up, and just recently the site crashed because of a major episode release that people were trying to watch in masses. With Pokemon you have a delayed dub that ultimately doesn't matter because RAWs were spoiled online, or a monopoly in the fansub community by one decent group that sticks to their archaic approach and puts up an entry-barrier forcing you to memorize Japanese names, regions, and attacks.

They're also 10 years behind cause their slow asses subbed that XY&Z The Movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 09:55:52 No.34160634 Report

Quoted By: >>34160647

>>34160417
It's unironically better than the dubbed version of We Are

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 09:59:45 No.34160647 Report

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>>34160634
Eh, I wouldn't really compare them, it's just... without 4kids, we wouldn't have it, you know? It's a treasure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 10:06:05 No.34160685 Report

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>>34160464
Because they know Nobody watch that garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 10:25:32 No.34160782 Report

Quoted By:

>>34158334
TWO GENDERS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2017 13:12:48 No.34161646 Report

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>>34160458
to be fair the original japanese script is hella boring, and I like that they seemed self-aware of the silliness of the whole "deciding the fate of the world through children card games" idea. Watching the 4kids dub and all the shenanigans they pull to avoid even caressing the concept of "death" is hilarious.

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