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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 11:55:37 No.34302682 View View Reply Original Report

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>over 20 years
>still objectively the best Pokemon games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:00:02 No.34302692 Report

Quoted By: >>34304357

>objectively
have your (you) and leave, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:01:05 No.34302697 Report

Quoted By: >>34302791

>>34302682
Not Yellow, but Red and Blue, yes. Why are GSC the only other games that come close?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:30:12 No.34302791 Report

Quoted By: >>34302802 >>34302805

>>34302697
>>34302682
>objectively good
Ah yes, surely I love my unbalanced crits and Pokemon types that do jackshit.

Surely I love Psychic type being a win button.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:32:29 No.34302802 Report

Quoted By: >>34302811 >>34302824 >>34302854 >>34305369

>>34302791
All these things you mentioned are subjective. If you said something like you can’t run or the PC Storage interface is clunky or the backsprites are shit sure, but you’re just an underage trying to low key defend SM while shitting on these good game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:32:43 No.34302804 Report

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>>34302682
As if, they're pretty fucking broken from a mechanical standpoint. And being first isn't an excuse for a game to release with so many unintended problems, there were plenty of games that released back then that had no issues of this magnitude.

If we're being objective Gen 2 was an improvement over Gen 1 in almost every way while still maintaining the simple aesthetic. It's not perfect but it isn't riddled with mechanical problems like Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:33:08 No.34302805 Report

Quoted By: >>34302884 >>34305384

>>34302791
>durr it doesn't have my smogon meta with lando-t and stealth rocks so it's a BAD GAME

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:33:45 No.34302811 Report

Quoted By: >>34305312

>>34302802
>Bug and Ghost being fucking useless is subjective

Go away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:36:29 No.34302824 Report

Quoted By: >>34309099

>>34302802
>Psychic type having practically no weakness is subjective
>critical being biased in favor of faster Pokemon is subjective

The latter is literally a fact, you can check the games' source code. Persian running Slash had 100% crit rate, and that's not even mentioning critical hit could do less than normal hit after two Swords Dances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:47:41 No.34302854 Report

Quoted By: >>34304348

>>34302802
>special is one stat

>S P E C I A L I S O N E S T A T

Who was the moron who greenlit that?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:51:54 No.34302875 Report

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*wins game*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:52:57 No.34302884 Report

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>>34302805
that's not the argument at all you retarded can of shit.
he's not complaining about the lack of modern features but the brokeness of what they had featured then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 12:54:00 No.34302891 Report

Quoted By: >>34305312

>>34302682
>here's 150 pokemon, 140 of them only learn tackle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 13:13:48 No.34302955 Report

Quoted By: >>34304472 >>34305312

The lack of diversity makes those problematic by default. I can understand someone saying FRLG is the best Pokémon game but gameplay in Gen I was far too broken. There were all sorts of small issues, bugs and weird decisions in those games which made half of the creatures unplayable. In a game about collecting and battling. It's pretty hard to defend RGBY from a game design standpoint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 14:34:28 No.34303355 Report

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>>34302682
well yeah, that's bound to happen when every game since then is trying to copy the first one but with a fundamental misunderstanding of what made them great in the first place
guess what it's not the system mechanics game freak, you can try something else now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 14:38:07 No.34303362 Report

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Yeah, no. Gen I has it's merits, but also a shitload of faults, many game-breaking enough to eliminate them from contenders of best pokémon gmes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 17:28:46 No.34304348 Report

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>>34302854
Completely subjective. I thought that was pretty rad. These days, I hate devoting special EVs into my guys I’m raising in-game especially if they’re shitmon or Modest/Adamant guys. Point being, it was beneficial to invest in special if not for offense but for defense against special attacks. Sticking Fire Blast on Machamp (who ends up with decent Special) or Blizzard on Taurus is fun as fuck and it being one stat is COMPLETELY subjective. All that being said, that’s one of RBY’s strengths having stats function differently than in other games because many Pokémon then function differently than they do now and it’s refreshing to mix it up. I’m not saying I don’t like SpAtk/Def it’s completely logical and I like it, but I also like just Special as well. Just a different experience, not better or worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 17:29:30 No.34304357 Report

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>>34302692
But (You) didn't even reply to OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 17:36:01 No.34304406 Report

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>>34302682
But Emerald has been out for 12 years anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 17:44:05 No.34304472 Report

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>>34302955
I love me some FRLG but they fucked up royal by putting everything in the postgame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 18:43:44 No.34305002 Report

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I hate the older games because they have all those broken Psychic types, the newer games with things like Blaziken and Mega Gengar are so much better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 19:14:31 No.34305312 Report

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>>34302955
>There were all sorts of small issues, bugs and weird decisions in those games which made half of the creatures unplayable.
Are you implying this not the case today? Because it is.

>>34302891
Movesets in gen 1 made sense and were based on the Pokemon design rather than competitive considerations.

>>34302811
How is Ghost useless when it's immune to normal which has two of the most dangerous attacks in the game: Hyper Beam and Bodyslam and Gengar is overused?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 19:19:02 No.34305342 Report

Quoted By: >>34305375

>>34302682
>Genwunners believe this

Gen 2 was better, get over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 19:22:00 No.34305369 Report

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>>34302802
Google what objective means faggot. You listed things even more subjective than him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 19:22:43 No.34305375 Report

Quoted By: >>34306195

>>34305342
Gen 2 was nice but Kanto was pretty half-assed and the metagame to stall heavy for my taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 19:23:20 No.34305384 Report

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>>34302805
Psychic meta is more cancerous than Lando T

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 19:23:41 No.34305386 Report

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I'd say FireRed is great but
>Giovanni losing his Rhydon for a freaking second Rhyhorn

I'm still mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 21:09:55 No.34306195 Report

Quoted By: >>34306898

>>34305375
I think the Pokemon Gen 2 metagame is arguably the deepest and most skill-based the series has ever been

Gen 1 has so much charm, but lots of issues
Gen 2 trades a little of that charm and fixes the issues, as well as being the best gen of all pokemon games.

Gen 2 is the objective and patrician choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:21:04 No.34306735 Report

Quoted By: >>34306783 >>34308190

Hey /vp/, help me out please. So I played the games in the following order:

>Red
>Yellow
>Silver
>FireRed
>Emerald
>Pearl
>White
>HeartGold
>Also watched a let's play of Sun and it looked alright but I don't know if I would buy it.

I haven't played Pokemon in a few years now and am starting to get the itch again. My question is: I was going to wait for the new Switch game, but are there any must-plays that I missed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:26:35 No.34306783 Report

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>>34306735
Pokemon Blaze Black 2/Volt White 2 and get your ass kick. Its a great mod if you are looking for challenge. Its also free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:40:46 No.34306898 Report

Quoted By: >>34307586

>>34306195
>Gen 2 trades a little of that charm
Literally everything about Gen 2 has MORE charm

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 23:49:18 No.34307586 Report

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>>34306898
Gen 2 does have more charm for me personally, first one I bought when I was fuckin 4-5. The only thing that costs it is that Kanto isn't as fleshed as it should be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 00:40:36 No.34308135 Report

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>>34302682
First time in a while I burst out laughing from a post. Thanks OP!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 00:46:40 No.34308190 Report

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>>34306735
ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 02:20:59 No.34309099 Report

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>>34302824
*98%
Doesn't change your point, but I'm pretty sure getting actual 100 crit rate in those games wasn't possible outside of stat cheating fuckery.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 05:45:45 No.34311009 Report

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>>34302682

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 07:37:41 No.34311664 Report

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>>34302682
Pika Yellow or Ash's game is always best game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 07:40:50 No.34311686 Report

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>best
Is today opposite day?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 08:20:34 No.34311847 Report

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>>34302682
>Oh, look! It's another "I am prevented from enjoying new things - regardless of their high quality - by an unreasonable, nostalgic longing for my childhood because I live a mediocre, unsubstantial life as an adult" thread again

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 08:21:48 No.34311852 Report

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>>34302682
It had the best designs.

Pizzabro

Pizzabro Tue 28 Nov 2017 08:23:59 No.34311863 Report

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>>34302682
DIOCANE STAI ZITTO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 08:24:14 No.34311864 Report

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>>34302682
The Pokémon alone don't make the games.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 08:26:29 No.34311872 Report

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>>34302682
but this shitty bait seems to have landed some idiots

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