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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:12:04 No.34315490 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34315559 >>34315560 >>34315595 >>34315596 >>34315632 >>34316301 >>34318908 >>34318995

>tfw Totems will be gone next generation even though it's the closest thing we've had in the maingame to bosses because 'we gotta keep each generation unique'

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:19:04 No.34315559 Report

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>>34315490
>Gen 8
>Back to Gyms as usual
>Except there are optional totem fights
>Weak to whatever TM the Gym Leader you fight beforehand gives you
>Beating it rewards you with respective Z Crystal
>All of them are types that haven't been done yet (Rock, Flying, Ground, Ice etc..)
Y/N?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:19:05 No.34315560 Report

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>>34315490
Well you're likely correct but theoretically, there's hope they carry over to future games because the concept of having wild boss pokemon isn't hard to implement even without being tied to trials. I could see something like hidden grottos having a boss pokemon like totems, or anything similar.Now whether GF will do it is a sad tale for another time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:20:03 No.34315572 Report

Quoted By: >>34315584 >>34318921

I don't care about totems. What I'm worries about are Rides and especially Pelago being gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:21:20 No.34315584 Report

Quoted By: >>34315620

>>34315572
Pelago is absolutely going away. I doubt Rides will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:22:42 No.34315595 Report

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>>34315490
>Gyms
>Totems

Why not both?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:22:42 No.34315596 Report

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>>34315490
>implying gym leaders aren't bosses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:24:17 No.34315612 Report

Quoted By: >>34315642 >>34315684

>>34315596
Gym Leaders aren't even that special, they're just normal trainer battles with different music and a marginally better AI. Whereas Totems are a more unique format and based on what I've seen, can actually force you to think strategically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:25:02 No.34315620 Report

Quoted By: >>34315627 >>34315630 >>34317637

>>34315584
Every feature of gen7 except the plaza is somehow tied to the supposed uniqueness of Alola, so it might be that even rides are going away (you know, totems, pelago, islands, pokemon in alola helping people way more and both interacting on a deeper level and whatnot, also pokemon calling for help )

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:26:24 No.34315627 Report

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>>34315620
>all the good features of Gen 7 are gone next gen
>but the Festival Plaza remains
worst timeline

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:26:41 No.34315630 Report

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>>34315620
I remember when customization was supposed to be tied to kalos. That went over well with the fans. :3c

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:26:55 No.34315632 Report

Quoted By: >>34315660 >>34315723

>>34315490
Those totem mons earned in usum are going the way of spikey eared Pichu.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:27:36 No.34315642 Report

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>>34315612
> they're just normal trainer battles with different music and a marginally better AI

How are they not bosses?

>Whereas Totems are a more unique format and based on what I've seen, can actually force you to think strategically.

Absolutely not. Its just a doubles wild pokmeon battle with over inflated pokemon. I was having trouble with alolan marowak till I decided to just evolve larvitar to pupitar and ohko marowak with a rock slide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:29:18 No.34315660 Report

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>>34315632
Hopefully Ash Grenigger and Carrotdogger do the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:29:18 No.34315661 Report

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>>34315642
Most totems require more strategy than just spamming a super effective move to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:30:35 No.34315678 Report

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>>34315661
what? no that's literally all you have to do. no strategy involved whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:30:46 No.34315684 Report

Quoted By: >>34315738 >>34315746 >>34316295

>>34315612
>Totem Araquanid with speed totem aura
> It's raining so water does more dmg. Water bubble = even more dmg
> Has leech life for grass types
> Has aurora beam for flying/grass types
> Has bubble for rock types
> Has a berry that weakens electric damage
> Has Masquerain as an ally, intimidate, bug bite, tailwind
> Has dewpider as an ally
> Sticky web and rain dance, bubble
Yeah, totems are awesome. I hope they somehow don't go away forever as a concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:33:38 No.34315723 Report

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>>34315632
>implying when the sun and moon totems are bankable.

Sucks for the new ones though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:34:31 No.34315738 Report

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>>34315684
yeah about that totem araquanid. my dartrix tanked an aura beam and Ohko in return with a supersonic skystrike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:35:23 No.34315746 Report

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>>34315684
>Alolawak and Salazzle nuking shit with Hex and Venoshock
>Scizor covering for Kommo-o's Fairy and Psychic weaknesses
GF may be lazy as fuck but you can tell they put a lot of thought into these fights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:35:59 No.34315764 Report

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>>34315738
how overleveled was your owl to tank a 4x weakness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:36:26 No.34315773 Report

Quoted By: >>34315785 >>34315881

>>34315738
What level? 28?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:37:19 No.34315785 Report

Quoted By: >>34315807 >>34315898

>>34315764
>>34315773
it was like level 22. I know it wasn't that far above the totem's level. the only time I was overleveled for a totem battle so far was A-marowak when I used a Lv 30 pupitar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:38:38 No.34315807 Report

Quoted By: >>34315834

>>34315678
>>34315785
leveling was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:40:27 No.34315834 Report

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>>34315807
I had 7 rare candies because I was hoarding them, and used a one star rare kitchen in festival plaza. I did give it 10 proteins to raise its attack. I did all that because I just caught larvitar and didn't wanna waste time training it up to beat marowak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:43:10 No.34315877 Report

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>>34315746
That and the side quests are my only praises for USUM
>Lurantis also has Comfey and Kecleon covering for it with heals/defense buffs and kecleon with rocks for birds and fires/confusion/sunny day
> Mimikyu gets a jellicent/banette as allies toannoy you with PP drops, disabling of moves, willowisp and curse (and water moves in case you go in there with the fire starter)
Totem togedemaru is arguably the easiest one, its allies don't really cover for its weaknesses, you can stomp everything with a mudsdale
> Totem Ribombee gains a +2 all stat boost
> Has a peliper as an ally with seed bomb and scald
> Has quiver dance /draining kiss bug buzz
> Has Blissey as a second ally for heals and light screen and helping hand
> Holds fire-weakening berry
That was a great adventure. Everything else, however...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:43:19 No.34315881 Report

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>>34315773
0 SpA Araquanid Aurora Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Dartrix: 148-176 (49.8 - 59.2%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO

not entirely sure what the stats are on my dartrix and stats/nature on the totem but it went like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:44:05 No.34315892 Report

Quoted By: >>34315906

>>34315834
I get that, but don't you think it's silly to say that there's no strategy involved in totems when you have a level 30 rock/ground type on your team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:44:50 No.34315898 Report

Quoted By: >>34315906 >>34315945

>>34315785
I'm sorry but if my fully evolved crobat could barely survive an aurora beam at the same level, there's no way your 4x weak to ice owl could

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:46:40 No.34315906 Report

Quoted By: >>34315930 >>34315943 >>34315945

>>34315892
no because that lv 30 rock/ground type was dying to brick break before it evolved and that was my strategy. to evolve it and have it tank the brick break was my strategy. wasn't expecting the OHKO actually.

>>34315898
I'm being completely honest. it tanked the aura beam and got it with a supersonic skystrike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:48:05 No.34315930 Report

Quoted By: >>34315945 >>34316371

>>34315906
>eight levels above
>acting surprised when it OHKOs
Are you dumb? Also I feel that your Dartrix has some really good IVs if that's the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:49:04 No.34315943 Report

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>>34315906
>my strategy is to transfer over level 100 mega fug and ace the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:49:25 No.34315945 Report

Quoted By: >>34315958 >>34315985

>>34315898
>>34315906
>>34315930
also my dartrix's evs are all over the place and I don't know its ivs.

>>34315930
well it was my fault for expecting marowak to tank it I guess?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:49:58 No.34315950 Report

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>>34315943
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:50:34 No.34315958 Report

Quoted By: >>34315969

>>34315945
Boy if you're overleveled by that large a margin you're stupid for thinking it'd survive a STAB SE attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:52:08 No.34315969 Report

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>>34315958
I don't do the calculations in my head. I thought marowak had enough defense and hp to tank it. its a totem after all and probably has the three perfect ivs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:54:02 No.34315985 Report

Quoted By: >>34316055

>>34315945
Did you stuff it with sp def vitamins or use xspdefs or something? I'm also serious, my crobat which has only a 2x weakness to ice and higher spdef (base) than a dartrix was left with around 40% hp. It did not have a -sp def nature and idk its EVs either (or IVs)

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:56:06 No.34316002 Report

Quoted By: >>34316055 >>34316175

Here’s my dartrix ev spread. It was level 22 when I did lana’s Trial and currently just beat kiawe’s

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 19:58:54 No.34316027 Report

Quoted By: >>34316175

stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 20:01:48 No.34316055 Report

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>>34315985
no>>34316002

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 20:03:23 No.34316067 Report

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>>34315723
new ones will likely be bankable. GF already announced a USUM for the Bank

I want my Totem sized Araquanid forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 20:14:04 No.34316175 Report

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>>34316002
>>34316027
so does anyone have totem araquanid's stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 20:23:48 No.34316295 Report

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>>34315684
Too bad Lurantis is easier in USUM. Lurantis should have kept the Castform. Now it gets completely walled by too many Pokemon prior to the trial.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 20:24:18 No.34316301 Report

Quoted By: >>34316328 >>34318939 >>34319405

>>34315490
>no more Totem pokemon
>PSS won't be back because no bottom screen
>HMs will be back without even some improvements
>first pair of games will offer no content as usual aside from the battle tower clone and looker episode
>even more Rotomdex awfulness
>even more genwun pandering
>20 bucks just to acess the GTS and trade/battle
>GF will try as usual to force whatever new ultra fusion forms gimmick

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 20:25:53 No.34316328 Report

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>>34316301

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 20:29:15 No.34316371 Report

Quoted By: >>34316412

>>34315930
Araquanid's sp attack is pretty bad outside of using water moves. Whe I had Hawlucha out, it obpted to use Bubble instead because the programming knew it did more damage than aurora beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 20:32:47 No.34316412 Report

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>>34316371
pretty sure my dartrix was at like 27 hp after the aura beam so this post makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 22:31:02 No.34317637 Report

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>>34315620
They always do that when they introduce new features though. They say it's a super special new thing about the region, then next game everybody happens to have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 00:48:05 No.34318908 Report

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>>34315490
>tfw they’ll get rid of z moves AND have no national dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 00:49:07 No.34318921 Report

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>>34315572
The rides thing worries me the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 00:51:11 No.34318939 Report

Quoted By: >>34319405

>>34316301
>roto loto will be removed
>won’t be able to choose when a caught Pokemon joins your party anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 00:54:20 No.34318958 Report

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>>34315660
Nope. They're Bankable

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 00:58:54 No.34318995 Report

Quoted By: >>34319079

>>34315490
>Gym battles will be the same as if Totems never existed
>HM slaves will waste a team slot again
>Evil team won't have nearly as much charm as Team Skull

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:08:50 No.34319079 Report

Quoted By: >>34319095 >>34319117

>>34318995
>Pokémon refresh will be removed, along with all of its benefits

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:10:17 No.34319095 Report

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>>34319079
Some people would consider that a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:13:01 No.34319115 Report

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>we’ll get ANOTHER “Pokemon are never evil it’s the humans controlling them” plotline
>no female professors/villains
>none of the starters will be nearly as cute as rowlet, piplup, etc
>fire evo is another fire/fighting gorilla arms dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:13:09 No.34319117 Report

Quoted By: >>34319219

>>34319079
That messes with sylveon's evolution...unless they add a glittery rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:24:50 No.34319219 Report

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>>34319117
>fairy rock
Might be cool

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:35:49 No.34319321 Report

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>yfw HMs come back

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:45:11 No.34319405 Report

Quoted By: >>34319480

>>34316301
>No new regional forms
>Z-Crystals and Megas will be put backstage to the new gimmick, and every Stone/Crystal will only be obtainable through dripfed item codes

>>34318939
Roto Loto is better than nothing, but it's a downgrade from O-Powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:53:25 No.34319480 Report

Quoted By: >>34319496

>>34319405
Roto prize money is good though, especially since it stacks with happy hour and amulet coin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2017 01:54:56 No.34319496 Report

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>>34319480
there was an opower for that.

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