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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:17:41 No.34722043 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34722076 >>34722121 >>34722154 >>34722368 >>34722500 >>34722505 >>34723134 >>34723172 >>34723272 >>34727101 >>34731447

Will we ever have a villain this great again?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:20:38 No.34722065 Report

Quoted By: >>34722125 >>34722145 >>34731564

7 years ago, and better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:21:54 No.34722076 Report

Quoted By: >>34722199

>>34722043
>does nothing the whole game
>gets BTFO by Ho-oh the second he does something
nice villain

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:23:15 No.34722087 Report

Quoted By: >>34722123

>dr eggman is a great villain
lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:24:45 No.34722104 Report

Quoted By: >>34722410 >>34723172 >>34732784

Who could've guessed he was the villain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:26:30 No.34722121 Report

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>>34722043
danny devito as the penguin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:26:36 No.34722123 Report

Quoted By: >>34722134

>>34722087
Eggman (in the Sonic Boom cartoon) is a great villain in the same way Dick Dastardly, Skeletor, and Wario and Waluigi are great. They're just so lovable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:26:49 No.34722125 Report

Quoted By: >>34722153 >>34722160 >>34723172 >>34725376

>>34722065
To note, Ghetsis is the only villain to have ever tried killing, on screen, the playable character

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:27:34 No.34722134 Report

Quoted By: >>34722139 >>34722161 >>34722218

>>34722123
>he watches anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:28:26 No.34722139 Report

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>>34722134
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:29:45 No.34722145 Report

Quoted By: >>34722185 >>34723202

>>34722065
>hehehe im going to freeze the world lol
>ill do this by taking kyurem to the giant chasm where its power resonates
>ill start by taking kyurem out of the giant chasm so i can fuck it on my boat for 2 years
Explain to me why Ghetsis was any better than Archie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:30:40 No.34722153 Report

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>>34722125
>Cyrus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:30:55 No.34722154 Report

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>>34722043
I hate the GCN Pokemon games. I could sing praises for this console for hours on end, but if there's something they screwed up on, it was the Pokemon games on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:31:28 No.34722160 Report

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>>34722125
The fuck you on about? Lysandre in Y literally detonated his weapon in a last ditch effort, with the express intent of killing himself and the player in his base

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:31:42 No.34722161 Report

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>>34722134
>plays a literal anime game

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:33:00 No.34722166 Report

Quoted By: >>34722271 >>34723172 >>34723272 >>34723635 >>34731798

To date I think Evice is the only villain that's fucking magic. WHY WASN'T THIS EXPLORED?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:35:10 No.34722178 Report

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>>34722154
They were pretty decent spin-offs. Nothing great, but they weren't offensively bad either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:35:43 No.34722185 Report

Quoted By: >>34722234 >>34722284 >>34726177

>>34722145
>Keeps his plans underwraps, using his naive "son"
>Uses propaganda to gather the pokemon of the world
>Attempts to kill the protagonists rather than go for a battle right away
>Accomplishes by capturing the legendary dragon that was his only opposition at the time
>The world can't stand against a fusion of Kyurem and the legendary dragon, so why keep it there

But please, continue to use inaccurate semantics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:36:42 No.34722192 Report

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>>34722154
Why? I thought an entire game played only using double battles was a great idea even back before doubles became the official format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:37:25 No.34722199 Report

Quoted By: >>34723278 >>34725386

>>34722076
He orchestrated the whole Shadow Pokemon plot under the guise of being an affable mayor. How is that nothing?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:39:57 No.34722218 Report

Quoted By: >>34722276

>>34722134
>sonic boom is anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:41:35 No.34722234 Report

Quoted By: >>34726177

>>34722185
Those first two bullet points are irrelevant since he's talking about BW2 Ghetsis. And it's more or less confirmed Ghetsis in BW2 was kind of desperate; his brute force attempt was a sloppy rush-job compared to what he'd done before, obviously. It's no wonder it was shattered so easily. Motherfucker even decided to challenge his biggest opposition in a fair fight against his Kyurem instead of just trying to kill him again... especially since N couldn't even get in his way again at that point.

Ghetsis' reasoning skills had all but deteriorated away by BW2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:48:56 No.34722271 Report

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>>34722166
I think that was because he was corrupted by shadow too like the Pokemon he wronged.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:49:31 No.34722276 Report

Quoted By: >>34723147

>>34722218
>is a cartoon made by japs
>implying it's not anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 05:51:18 No.34722284 Report

Quoted By: >>34726177 >>34732831

>>34722185
Ghetsis is not the only villain to keep his plans secret nor the only one to be mean to his son, why is he so special?
Team Rocket also tried to gather all the Pokemon in the world but I don't see you sucking Giovanni's dick.
Except this is the exact opposite of what happens in the games- he gives you a free shot at beating Kyurem and foiling all his plans for absolutely no reason. The fact that he was shown to be capable of killing you if he actually wanted instead of shooting himself in the foot for no reason only makes him look dumber. Lysandre is the one who tries to kill you along with the rest of the region.
The villain trying to use the region's legendary is a staple of the games at this point, again why is Ghetsis so special?
The world can't stand up to Kyurem, but a single Excadrill, Lucario, or Sword of Justice certainly can. Speaking of which, where the hell was N for the past two years if his dragon sensed Kyurem's suffering? Ghetsis's plan sure was reliant on an extremely well-timed deus ex machina.

Moreover you missed my point; Ghetsis is incredibly generic in BW2 to the point of just being an Archie/Maxie rip

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 06:03:52 No.34722368 Report

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>>34722043
Its Eggman from Sonic X ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 06:13:26 No.34722410 Report

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>>34722104
I legitimately didn't realise he was the villain until I replayed and saw the tall guy leave his house in Phenac after saving Rui.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 06:22:39 No.34722466 Report

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>>34722154
How can anyone have taste this bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 06:24:39 No.34722478 Report

Quoted By: >>34723158

>>34722154
Colosseum was mediocre, but Gale of Darkness had great camera, animation timing, and improved the move animations greatly. One of the must-play Pokemon games on a visual level.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 06:28:19 No.34722500 Report

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>>34722043
His team was a pain in the ass. It felt so good when i finally took him down.
>>34722154
But that's wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 06:29:15 No.34722505 Report

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>>34722043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYPVYHWXYA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 10:18:12 No.34723134 Report

Quoted By: >>34729130

>>34722043
I really like both of the gamecube games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 10:24:57 No.34723147 Report

Quoted By: >>34732158

>>34722276
sonic booms made by french people

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 10:28:26 No.34723158 Report

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>>34722478
For me I like Colosseum better, but mostly on an atmosphere and character level. The former feeling so bleak and barren and yet it still feels like a Pokemon game, and the latter having so many unique designs and goals. Colosseum's characters are far from well-written but I feel like the characters in GoD felt like even more of a letdown for me desu (cipher admins have less threatening designs, grEVIL, etc.) Plus I'd kill to play as a former villanous team member again one day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 10:34:55 No.34723172 Report

Quoted By: >>34723200

>>34722043
He wasn't even really good.

>>34722104
Gale of Darkness and Ranger 2 have characters who scream "yep, you will have to fight me". The latter having Mr. Kincaid.

>>34722125
>Kincaid
>Cyrus
>Lysandre
Nigger, come on.

>>34722166
Final boss in Battle Revolution is a magician.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 10:54:08 No.34723200 Report

Quoted By: >>34723248

>>34723172
Kincaid not only tries to kill you, he actually succeeds if you're too slow to stop the ship from sinking. Pretty sure it's the only time you can actually straight-up die in a Pokémon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 10:55:10 No.34723202 Report

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>>34722145
Hehehehe go away

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 11:22:16 No.34723248 Report

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>>34723200
Bulbapedia states the same but I'm not convinced. The game just says that the ship has sunk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct-aQqddf_g
You have an aqualung so it's not like you are going to drown. It is a possibility, considering your character would try to save everyone, but it's not certain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 11:29:38 No.34723272 Report

Quoted By: >>34723278

>>34722043
>character that hardly has an important role in the story
>suddenly shows up and literally magically poofs into a scary badguy >>34722166
Seriously one of the poorest attempts at a twist I've seen. I can't believe Chuggaaconroy thought it was one of the greatest twists in a game ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 11:31:57 No.34723278 Report

Quoted By: >>34723296

>>34723272
>>character that hardly has an important role in the story
see >>34722199

>muh Chugga
see >>34704306

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 11:40:21 No.34723296 Report

Quoted By: >>34723299

>>34723278
And what exactly does he do besides just sit in his office and tell you he's working on investigating crimes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 11:41:03 No.34723299 Report

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>>34723296
Anon, Chuggaaconroy makes let's plays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 14:03:35 No.34723635 Report

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>>34722166
You forgot that he's probably the smallest thing to case screenquakes in a game ever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 20:36:19 No.34725356 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 20:39:49 No.34725376 Report

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>>34722125

That does not mean he was a deep character

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 20:41:50 No.34725386 Report

Quoted By: >>34725467 >>34725921

>>34722199
Because it was a forced twist at the end of the game that didn't need to be there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 20:52:38 No.34725467 Report

Quoted By:

>>34725386
Whats a better disguise for an evil team leader than a benevolent helper/leader?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 22:01:48 No.34725921 Report

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>>34725386

Honestly it really wasnt that far out there.

When I saw the game paint him as an incompetent mayor and letting Nascours thugs go unopposed I knew he was either controlled opposition or the big bad. You dont allow that shit on your doorstep and still call yourself the "good guy". Besides, Cipher wasnt doing their work for free and it didnt hurt to have their benefactor be the same person who contracted Realgam tower.

I honestly wasnt surprised when I first fought him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 22:46:11 No.34726177 Report

Quoted By: >>34726195 >>34727121 >>34729153 >>34734691

>>34722185
>>34722234
>>34722284
You niggers are analysing a children's game. The overarching story is narrated in a way children can understand them and constructed with simplified archetypes. Go read, watch or play something tailored for people your age.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 22:50:51 No.34726195 Report

Quoted By: >>34726209

>>34726177
>waaah you can't analyze something critically because it's for kids!
every time

we're just explaining why Ghetsis is shit; no need to get anal about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2018 22:53:08 No.34726209 Report

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>>34726195
>you can't analyze something critically because it's for kids
Were you homeschooled?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 01:18:21 No.34727101 Report

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>>34722043
Are we just going to ignore the fact that Riku from KH is also an antagonist in this game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 01:22:10 No.34727121 Report

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>>34726177
You're aware of the board you're in right now aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 07:01:30 No.34729130 Report

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>>34723134
Still got my umbreon, espeon, metagross, raikou and entei from colosseum. They're around level 80 and I'm using them in heartgold. Nostalgia is heavy for that game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 07:07:06 No.34729153 Report

Quoted By:

>>34726177

True it is simple, however story components need justification. Even childrens books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 17:31:36 No.34731447 Report

Quoted By:

>>34722043
bump

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 18:00:44 No.34731564 Report

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Serious Nascour, what even are you?

>>34722065

I've got to say this. Colosseum is remembered fondly for its killer concepts and gleefully un-Pokemon character designs than its actual meat. I still wonder when Genius Sonority was told they would be making scaled back RPGs, because how Orre deals with that is some great mechanical writing, and even gives a story band-aid to some of their wonky modeling.

And after fifteen years of thwarting supernatural destruction, with perhaps one exception, finishing things with the bad guys by waltzing into the facility they're are using to recoup the costs of your previous meddling is refreshingly mundane.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 18:20:36 No.34731708 Report

Quoted By: >>34731776 >>34731783 >>34732821

So who is your favorite gamecube game villain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 18:29:22 No.34731776 Report

Quoted By:

>>34731708
HE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 18:30:21 No.34731783 Report

Quoted By:

>>34731708
Miror B

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 18:31:24 No.34731794 Report

Quoted By: >>34731852

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b7cIADhoIc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 18:31:57 No.34731798 Report

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>>34722166
>Brap Phantasm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 18:40:10 No.34731852 Report

Quoted By: >>34732874 >>34733265

>>34731794
God I fucking miss the gamecube games. We seriously need another fucking game that is doubles. If GF changed main game's format to be doubles I wouldn't even be upset.

Best music, best battles, best evil team, only thing it was lacking in a well built region. I feel like GF didn't put much thought into it, especially considering it was land locked in Colosseum then suddenly it wasn't in XD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 18:56:38 No.34731945 Report

Quoted By: >>34731964

Rotation battle only game when

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 19:00:46 No.34731964 Report

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>>34731945
>he likes rotation battles.
There is a good reason why they were removed, Anon.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 19:09:55 No.34732012 Report

Quoted By: >>34732271 >>34732854

Can't do an Orre thead without the unofficial movie poster. Still astounded someone put in the time!

I probably lean towards the ambient tunes simply because Genius' composer has those same few chords he jams into everything he can, but the last boss tunes are fresh for clearly not coming from Masuda.

Arranges!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR291F8IBko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gveVHZcwt_s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 19:19:27 No.34732100 Report

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Colosseum and Gale of Darkness are very interesting and unique games
Especially how some of the Shinies are just flat out made up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 19:28:19 No.34732158 Report

Quoted By:

>>34723147
US and France

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 19:50:54 No.34732271 Report

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>>34732012
Holy shit that is really good. The one with may and max made me laugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 20:31:13 No.34732508 Report

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On the topic of GC Pokemon villains, pretty much every Cipher admin has a swanky walk that fits PERFECTLY with their theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 21:26:02 No.34732784 Report

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>>34722104
Would have been better if it was originally the protagonist from Colosseum.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 21:31:22 No.34732821 Report

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>>34731708
If you don't say Miror B., you're wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZsOwo9rhsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCl1gwX_CVA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 21:32:39 No.34732831 Report

Quoted By: >>34732909

>>34722284
>Moreover you missed my point; Ghetsis is incredibly generic in BW2 to the point of just being an Archie/Maxie rip
Your point makes no sense though. How is Ghetsis in BW2 similar to Archie/Maxie in anyway? Did you somehow forget what the latters' goals and subsequent consequences of their success were?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 21:36:10 No.34732854 Report

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>>34732012

man I wish that movie poster was real. That's awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 21:37:58 No.34732874 Report

Quoted By: >>34733065

>>34731852

Play Pokemon XG, it's a hack of XD with physical/special split and up to date 6th gen abilities, moves, TMs, etc. Lots harder trainers too and different shadow pokemon to snag. It's well worth your time.

I've pretty much lost hope that we'll see another shadow pokemon game, but I'd buy it day 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 21:42:07 No.34732909 Report

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>>34732831
>Ghetis in bw2
Wants revenge for humiliation
Seems desperate
Nihilistic
Has plan to use science to manipulate legendaries to his suiting
Wants to hurt people and pokemon in a sadistic way
Outwards hatred of children shared by his subordinates
Knows what he's doing is wrong and enjoys it
Wants to be emperor of reality

>Archie & Maxie
Zealots for their causes to point of blindness of their faults
Despises the opposing team (though Aqua finds humanity to be like a blight)
Genuinely believes they're doing good and tends to have "what have i done" moments
Don't expect to rule world after succeeding, just to live in it

There's some similarities but mostly they're way different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 22:04:39 No.34733065 Report

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>>34732874

Trouble is, the XG dev loves putting Protect on every single goddamn enemy and because the AI is extremely dumb it constantly spams the move. Every single turn. Even turns where Protect has only a tiny chance of success (but as we know, 25% = 100%)
It's not so bad with the story mode enemies but in Mt. Battle and the Colosseums every goddamn opponent spams Protect non-stop.

These games are known for their overlong battles and this brainless design decision only make that even worse. Not to mention it takes most of the challenge out of any battles where it features.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 22:40:56 No.34733265 Report

Quoted By: >>34733330

>>34731852
I really feel like Gen 7's totems has shown that Doubles would be a really good format to try again for a main game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2018 22:51:09 No.34733330 Report

Quoted By: >>34734749

>>34733265
totem battles should have been doubles from the get go, with the totem immediately getting its ally obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2018 02:12:51 No.34734691 Report

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>>34726177
Being made for children is not an excuse to be shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2018 02:19:20 No.34734749 Report

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>>34733330
Only if Gamefreak gets better at optimizing their shit.

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