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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:09:11 No.35366631 View View Reply Original Report

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Time between release of 'third version' games and the new generation:

Crystal to Ruby/Sapphire - 23 months
Emerald to Diamond/Pearl - 24 months
Platinum to Black/White - 24 months
BW2 to XY - 16 months

Time since USUM was released - FIVE freaking months

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Even with a conservative estimate, you are looking at another year to wait before Pokemon Switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:11:12 No.35366640 Report

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>>35366631
Since when do they have to follow patterns ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:13:09 No.35366648 Report

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>>35366640
I'm just pointing out that it's only been five months since we got USUM. People expecting a new game to be released less than a year after are delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:14:05 No.35366658 Report

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>>35366640
since 1996

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:14:16 No.35366660 Report

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>>35366631
Time to wait 24 months. Can /vp/ last this long?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:15:34 No.35366669 Report

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>>35366660
Satan will come before /vp/ suffers 24 months of dead time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:16:41 No.35366674 Report

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>>35366660
I believe that we'll reach a time where there's a new gen every 12 months and that won't be soon enough for /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:17:06 No.35366679 Report

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Just to be more fair
HG/SS to black white 12months
Omega ruby to s/m 24 months

Just for all the gen gaps

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:17:48 No.35366686 Report

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>>35366631
No. Only 87 new Pokémon was introduced in this generation.

Game freak needs to hurry up and make more new Pokémon.

A Pokémon can look like anything and be based off anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:24:24 No.35366720 Report

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>>35366640
>implying the time required to develop a new game is just a pattern that they can ignore
Do you really think that games are just made overnight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:26:06 No.35366729 Report

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>>35366720
Obviously not but we don't know when development started. The earliest it could've been is 2015

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:27:03 No.35366735 Report

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>>35366720
Do you really think they start making a new game when the last one is released ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:27:34 No.35366739 Report

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>>35366631
They wouldn't have said "2018 or later" if there was 0 chance of the games coming this year

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:29:34 No.35366747 Report

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>>35366735
They always have two projects running side by side. Whatever is coming was in development alongside SM back in 2015/2016.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:35:09 No.35366772 Report

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>>35366739
They said "It may not release for more than a year" when announcing it in June 2017. They never mentioned 2018 at all. It might release at any time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:36:22 No.35366780 Report

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>>35366747
Exactly that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:36:26 No.35366782 Report

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>>35366747
They never have two major projects at once. Remakes and third versions can be developed simultaneously because they take less time and resources. At best they start work on the next gen right towards the end of the current gen's development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 15:37:03 No.35366787 Report

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>>35366735
They would have started work on Gen 8 when SM were finished while the B-team worked on USUM. Then when the B-team game is released, they help with the development of a new generation. That's how Game Freak have operated for a number of years. Even when you consider the gap between the first games of each generation, there's a 3-4 year gap. The fact that gen 8 will be Game Freak's first HD game will potentially add even more development time onto the games. Since SM launched in 2016, the earliest gen 8 will arrive is 2019.

The only way we'll get a mainline game in 2018 is if it's another game for the 3DS. We won't get the Switch games until at least next year. If you unironically believe gen 8 will drop in 2018 then you don't have a clue about game development or Pokemon's history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 16:03:26 No.35366909 Report

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>>35366631
This.

Too many people just make up a reason for a 2018 release - "i-it's been in secret development!". Christ.

I'd be happy if it was released this year, sure, but I really don't think it will be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 16:50:59 No.35367214 Report

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>>35366787
Gen 8 was finished in 2015. They most likely started gen 8 concepts at that time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 16:52:01 No.35367222 Report

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>>35366772
They told Nintendo 2018 or later and that's official the release date right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 16:54:07 No.35367232 Report

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>>35366631
>Kimishima enters
>"Ah,Masuda,good to see you.So,is the Pokémon game ready to launch this holiday?We need a big title."
>"Yes, everything is going well.But sorry,we can't release it this holiday."
>Oh?Why?We really need it,you know."
>"Well,some guy with a neckbeard came to me and noted that generations so far have lasted 3 or more years,and there's been 16 months or more between third versions and the next game.So sorry,but we'll have to delay it another year."
>"Understandable.Hopefully the investors won't get TOO angry."
>"Haha,yes.Work hard this week!"
>"XD,bye!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 17:04:19 No.35367277 Report

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>>35366631
You realise that HGSS came out after Platinum right?
So rather than 24 months between gen 4 and 5 it would be 12 given that HGSS was September 2009 while BW was September 2010.
Crystal to RS was also just over a year given they were released July 2001 and November 2002 respectively.

The only one you were correct with was DP because it was delayed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 17:11:27 No.35367321 Report

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>>35366631
>Crystal to Ruby/Sapphire - 16 months
>Emerald to Diamond/Pearl - 24 months
>Platinum to Black/White - 12 months
>BW2 to XY - 16 months

If you're going with the retarded pattern argument then at least get it right you fucking idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 17:17:18 No.35367359 Report

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>>35367321
>Platinum to BW 12 months
uhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 17:21:40 No.35367383 Report

Quoted By: >>35368614

>>35366631
>>35366640
>>35367321
The reason we "have to follow retarded patterns" is Masuda's own words that development of the next gen begins at the start of the current gen (e.g. development of SM began around the time XY was released/very close to release).
It was also stated that it takes them _at least_ 3 years to develop a new generation game. That's really the only reason why those "patterns" matter.
Like >>35366747 said, they never have 2 main projects in development at the same time because all their main staff is already occupied working on the current main project. While SM was in development, the B-team was working on USUM and when SM released/was close to releasing, that's when they likely began developing the switch titles.
So unless their development time somehow managed to get faster, the logical release year is 2019, but there's no real evidence/reason to suggest that they can't have gotten faster at developing games (probably at the expense of quality, since Masuda also said it's difficult to make stuff for the switch)

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 17:24:44 No.35367399 Report

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>thinking because Game Freak needed time to get to grips with esoteric coding environments means they'll need exactly the same amount of time working in an architecture similar to the PC's they build the game in

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 17:41:40 No.35367494 Report

Quoted By: >>35367608

>>35366720
>>35366729
Gen 3 was in development for GBA before the GBA was revealed/available to the public. Gen 8 is/was in development before we had the Switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 18:03:49 No.35367608 Report

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>>35367494
They would have started development in 2016. 3 years is the minimum required for a game like Pokemon so that means a 2019 release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 18:07:25 No.35367628 Report

Quoted By: >>35367706

>>35366720
What I do expect is that an entirely different team is programming for the Switch than the team on the 3ds. Because of the console jump, I expect them to have it covered. They've probably been working on it since the Switch came out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 18:25:18 No.35367706 Report

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>>35367628
Given Masuda and a lot of other senior staff members did nothing for Gen VII's development, I'm near certain a core team of staff had been working on VIII (including the design team, whose work on VII would have been completed by then) by the time the dev kit was delivered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 18:27:41 No.35367710 Report

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>>35367608
Ruby/Sapphire released the year after the GBA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 18:41:35 No.35367777 Report

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>>35367710
But they released 3 years after Gold/Silver. The console release date is irrelevant. Game Freak released BW for the DS despite the 3DS already being announced. Even though Game Freak are the first developer outside of Nintendo ti receive the devkit for a new console, they don't start work on the next gen until they feel like they're done with their current gen.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 18:45:08 No.35367792 Report

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>>35367777
>The console release date is irrelevant
>To how long they've been working on the game
>When they start before the console comes out
Patternfags man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 18:50:00 No.35367828 Report

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>>35367792
How do you think launch titles are made?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 18:51:23 No.35367836 Report

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>>35367828
Who did you mean to reply to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 19:07:25 No.35367945 Report

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>>35367836
I didn't make a mistake, asshole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 19:12:58 No.35367971 Report

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>>35367777
Do you really think development on the next gen doesn't start until after a gen has died

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 19:21:06 No.35368030 Report

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>>35367945
You clearly did, since that reply makes literally no sense as a reply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 19:43:53 No.35368160 Report

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>>35368030
I didn't. Answer the question or fuck off.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 19:51:27 No.35368193 Report

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>>35368160
Your question is gibberish. In what context? There is no relation between my comment and yours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:02:44 No.35368249 Report

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>>35368193
For fucks sake why are you so thick headed? You can't tell when someone is leading up to a point? You haven't head of a leading question before? Fuck, you're so dense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:11:02 No.35368306 Report

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>>35367399
fucking this. People act like Game Freak as zero experience with modern tech but they've made games for PC, Xbox One, and PS4. The Switch will be the easiest jump to a new system for them yet.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:15:30 No.35368336 Report

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>>35368249
Clearly YOU have only tangentially "heard" of them, because first, that was a shit leading question, it's vague as shit and secondly, why the fuck would I fall for a leading question? You're a reeing child going "FALL FOR MY DUMB JOKE" anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:16:52 No.35368341 Report

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>>35367706
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Staff_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_Sun_and_Moon
That's not true anon. The only thing that changed is Masuda stepping down as mainline director and passing the torch to Ohmori, but he still produces music

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:27:03 No.35368415 Report

Quoted By: >>35368442 >>35368558

>>35368336
The answer is they start making them before the system comes out, and they could've been making pokemon before it releases too. For fucks sake you are the most annoying, thick skulled, idiotic person I've spoken to all day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:28:05 No.35368421 Report

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>>35366631
>BW2 to XY - 16 months

That explains sooooo fucking much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:31:30 No.35368442 Report

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>>35368415
Can you actually not read?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:33:31 No.35368464 Report

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>>35367321
Platinum was September 2008 and BW was Sept 2010. Don't give us bullshit about American dates, they're irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:37:23 No.35368491 Report

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>>35367321
If you're going with the retarded comment reply then at least look up the release dates (I used the Japanese ones) and get it right you fucking idiot.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_games_by_release_date

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:43:41 No.35368558 Report

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>>35368415
He actually did it the absolute madman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:48:54 No.35368614 Report

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>>35367383
2018fags will ignore this

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:50:53 No.35368636 Report

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>>35368341
>Masuda stepping down as mainline director and passing the torch to Ohmori
RIP Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 22:14:53 No.35369243 Report

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>>35368636
I mean it started with ORAS (that was his test-run as co-director with Masuda, then SM were his 1st standalone project as mainline director so technically he should already have become the new one by now)
>>35368614
everyone seems to ignore this, unfortunately

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 22:33:23 No.35369350 Report

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>>35366631
You Dumb!
It will be a December or January release that would make 24-25 Months since sun and moon release not USUM

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