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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:26:48 No.35400429 View View Reply Original Report

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>lose to Lusamine in aether paradise
>the story carries on as usual
This gen sucks dicks. Fuck Masuda.

Also don't bully me, I'm using an underleveled fire/poison team, no items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:27:58 No.35400434 Report

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>>35400429
Lusamine looks like she has a towel on her head but thats actually her hair wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:34:18 No.35400458 Report

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>>35400434
she hot tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:35:31 No.35400463 Report

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>>35400434
Yeah, what the fuck is this anime hair doing in my Japanese video game? Shit game! 0/10!

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:40:33 No.35400480 Report

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>tfw no psycho single mom gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:41:55 No.35400487 Report

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>>35400429
Why hasn't there been an actual hopeless, meant-to-lose battle in the series actually?

Surely it would be a good way to establish a team leader or rogue legendary being serious business.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:42:50 No.35400493 Report

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>>35400434
>>35400458
>>35400463
>>35400480
This was supposed to be about excessive handholding and stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:43:47 No.35400498 Report

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>>35400480
>Favorite Pokemon: Mudsdale

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:44:28 No.35400501 Report

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>>35400493
you can't have a Lusamine thread without Lusamine love

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:47:49 No.35400511 Report

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>>35400487

Because pokemon is a battle system such that there are ways to get around it. People beat cynthia with level 1 teams. Gamefreak is also probably afraid people will waste all of their items

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:51:37 No.35400519 Report

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>>35400487
Because hopless, meant-to-lose battles are bad. You're not expected to win against Guzma and Lusamine in your first battles against them. But you can if you're good enough. That's much better than artificially trying to make them look tough by cheating.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:51:52 No.35400521 Report

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>lose to Blue in oak's lab
>the story carries on as usual
This gen sucks dicks. Fuck Tajiri.

Also don't bully me, I picked Bulbasaur.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:52:56 No.35400525 Report

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>>35400521
perfuct combarisun

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:53:27 No.35400529 Report

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>>35400480
>tfw you will never cheat on Lillie with her mom

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:53:46 No.35400530 Report

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>>35400519
>You're not expected to win against Guzma and Lusamine
Fuck off Masuda. They're not that difficult unless you're shooting yourself in the foot with meme teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:54:47 No.35400531 Report

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>>35400519
>you're not expected to win against Guzma and Lusamine in your first battles against them
Speak for yourself, underage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:57:32 No.35400539 Report

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>>35400429
Of course it did. It was a battle important to the story. If you lost there, a normal game would give you a fucking game over screen and force you to play back from whenever you last saved. In Pokemon, you get sent back to Pokemon Center, but because it's a battle in middle of an important event in story, you can't just go out, heal, take a fucking boat, stroll through Aether Paradise where everyone is pretending there's some hurry, and challenge her again.

You're shit, don't blame the game for not giving you a second try. Get good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:57:35 No.35400540 Report

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>>35400519
Guzma is the definition of push-over and you know it's especially bad when the most threatening part of your team is a Masquerain and not your giant isopod of an ace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:58:58 No.35400544 Report

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>>35400539
There's a "pokemon center" just down the hallway nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 06:59:52 No.35400547 Report

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>>35400544
Good for you, then. I wouldn't know, I never used it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:00:38 No.35400551 Report

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>>35400530
Yeah, and that's a huge step up in difficulty in a series where meme teams have always been viable. Guzma's pokemon have max IVs and max EVs and Lusamine's team has near max IVs and maxed EVs and they both have good coverage. For as much as you retards love to cry about how dumbed-down this gen is, there have never been NPCs that even had EVs outside of the E4 before this gen. You're allowed to lose in the first fight against them, but you do have to beat them later on.

>>35400531
I didn't say that I lost to them, retard. I said that you're not expected to win. You can lose and it's fine. But you can also win and that's better than making them invincible just to artificially add tension.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:01:53 No.35400553 Report

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>>35400547
Woah, you're so badass. You don't even use the pokemon centers in pokemon games.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:03:31 No.35400558 Report

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>>35400553
At least I'm not losing to Loser-min.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:04:39 No.35400561 Report

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>>35400558

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:07:03 No.35400567 Report

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>>35400539
Pretty sure you can fly off at any point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:10:18 No.35400575 Report

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>>35400519
>You're not expected to win against Guzma and Lusamine in your first battles against them
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:12:32 No.35400580 Report

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>>35400575
"Not expected to win" doesn't mean the same thing as "expected to lose". Learn some English, brainlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:18:36 No.35400604 Report

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>>35400429
How the fuck did you lose a single battle before necrozma? How stupid can you be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:19:30 No.35400610 Report

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>>35400604
Still not as stupid as GF's target audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:20:37 No.35400612 Report

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>>35400610
GF's target audience is children. You're the one getting mad about the difficulty in games made for children. Doesn't sound very smart to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:22:49 No.35400619 Report

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>>35400604
Bitch I was level 39 with my fire-type shitmons. Her Milotic landed four SE hydro pumps and I don't use items.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:24:55 No.35400624 Report

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>>35400619

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:26:21 No.35400628 Report

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>>35400624
You couldn't do it either, /v/irgin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:26:32 No.35400631 Report

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>>35400429
Ohmori directed SM, dipshit. Why does Masuda take the blame for everything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:27:14 No.35400634 Report

Quoted By: >>35400871

>>35400487

Because the fanbase consists if fragile ego tantrum children who have rage/panic attacks when their fantasy world dominance is questioned.
There was nothing more disgusting than watching mandjtv rail about being OHKO'd by Ultra Necrozma like a little bitch. It finally put into perspective how autistic and mentally stunted Pokemon fans really are.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:27:52 No.35400636 Report

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>>35400631
I don't really know (laughs)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:35:26 No.35400656 Report

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>>35400619
Gee, it's almost like being prepared for battle is important in an RPG or something. Well, good thing that fight was just a character introduction and winning was optional. You'll get some actual boss battles soon that you'll actually have to win in order to continue. But I'm sure you can beat them if you try, sport. It is a game for children, after all. How hard can it be, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:36:11 No.35400658 Report

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>>35400656
>implying I didn't reset

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:37:33 No.35400662 Report

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>>35400658
Right. So then what were you so mad about again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:39:41 No.35400668 Report

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>>35400662
The principle of meaningless boss fights.

Gen 7 is full of this type of thing. Questions where your answers don't matter, no choice of where to go, no option to skip tutorials. Nothing you want matters, except which pokemon you choose to sit next to on the ride.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:40:09 No.35400670 Report

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>>35400658
it must be nice being that much of a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:46:56 No.35400685 Report

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>>35400668
>meaningless boss fights
You were in the evil team's hideout, about to fight the boss of them for the first time. It's the opposite of meaningless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:48:14 No.35400686 Report

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>>35400668
No, it's not full of meaningless boss fights. It has maybe 3 or 4 and all of them are against characters that you get to properly fight in completely mandatory boss fights later on (except Lusamine in USUM, who is replaced by a much stronger boss anyway). As for the other things, you're mostly describing the whole series there. Gen 1 wasn't completely linear, but there was no point in leaving the intended path. And Gen 2's non-linearity actually made it worse. I know that you're salty that you lost in this "dumbed down easy game", but you need to calm down and think about those claims you're making.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:49:04 No.35400689 Report

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>>35400685
It's very meaningless.
Her logic is that beating the player will prove she's strong enough to do the thing. That's dodgy logic to begin with.
Then she does it anyway, whether you win or lose.

It's a battle for the sake of battling Lusamine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:49:24 No.35400690 Report

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Did S&M have the most limpdick ending ever?
>literally everyone comes down to blow you
>recycled animations out the ass

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:50:38 No.35400695 Report

Quoted By: >>35401389

I thought it was neat. The scene afterwards actually plays out differently if you lose. In USUM, she entered the battle saying that she's doing it to quell Gladion's worries, and in SM, she's just batshit. If you lose to her, she'll look at Gladion and tell him he had nothing to worry about before jumping into the portal to get her ass handed to her. It's a bit more interesting than her jumping in anyway because she's farther up her own ass than Guzma can ever hope to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:50:48 No.35400696 Report

Quoted By: >>35400714

>>35400686
(You)'re baiting if you say Gen 7's railroaded experience is the same as any of the last games.
Stop posting any time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:51:16 No.35400697 Report

Quoted By: >>35400704

>>35400689
And? That's literally how it goes in every single fucking Pokemon game. There is no boss you beat in one battle. The closet to that is Ghetsis in BW, but even he just comes back.
Is this your first Pokemon game?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:51:29 No.35400699 Report

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>>35400690
it feels nice to be appreciated

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:51:58 No.35400701 Report

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>>35400690
>literally everyone comes down to blow you
I wish japs would stop this meme already. What's their problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:52:30 No.35400704 Report

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>>35400697
>ignoring the point
Dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:55:02 No.35400711 Report

Quoted By: >>35400716

>>35400690
Not really. I enjoyed everyone celebrating me becoming the Champion. It was nice. Much better than the single guy, running back home all alone we normally get. This and BW2, with their celebrations, were the nicest endings.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:55:59 No.35400713 Report

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>>35400656
>it's almost like being prepared for battle is important in an RPG or something.
>defending a battle where not being prepared changes nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:56:06 No.35400714 Report

Quoted By: >>35400717 >>35400728

>>35400696
It is. Whether it's a tree that you need to cut down or a water route or a Captain Barrier makes no difference. The games after Gen 2 are designed to block your progress until you've fought a specific boss. The world opens up as you progress with the story. That's how it is in most of the series. You can pretend that it's not all you like, but that doesn't change the fact that they're all linear. And it also doesn't make linearity a bad thing.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:56:35 No.35400716 Report

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>>35400711
You must have a pitiful life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 07:57:17 No.35400717 Report

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>>35400714
B-but the others give you a couple of optional caves so they're a lot more open ended!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 08:01:16 No.35400728 Report

Quoted By: >>35400738

>>35400714
>the games after Gen 2 are designed to block your progress until you've fought a specific boss
I wish it was still like this, instead in gen 7 you can't even explore the town you are already in until you talk to all the NPC the game wants you to meet and that say nothing important or stuff you already know

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 08:05:03 No.35400738 Report

Quoted By: >>35400742 >>35400760

>>35400728
So mash A though the conversations, then. Plus, why do you care about exploring towns if you don't want to talk to NPCs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 08:07:39 No.35400742 Report

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>>35400738
Take in the scenery, find a potion or two. That's why people like exploring. Not to read dialogue. Reading is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 08:09:06 No.35400744 Report

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>>35400530
brush your teeth masuda.
hontoni hidoi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 08:14:21 No.35400760 Report

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>>35400738
>Plus, why do you care about exploring towns if you don't want to talk to NPCs?
Because I like exploring and don't mind to talk to the NPCs, but being force in multiple conversations that add nothing to the plot just to be able to do the things upi could always do in previous games is bad game design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 08:34:33 No.35400814 Report

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Ohmori is shit, he destroyed ORAS and everything that followed, Emerald is still better Hoenn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 08:54:10 No.35400868 Report

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>>35400429
I think it's better this way actually. The loss stings more because the game for once actually treates your loss as real and canon in the story instead of magically teleporting you to the pokémon center and giving everyone a short term memory loss so you can pretend nothing happened and keep trying till you win.
I lost to Hau in the third island due to not using the starter and being like 3 levels below him due to not using the exp share (game got surprisingly hard). I lost to the goddamn malasada retard and it made me feel angry not being able to retry, but I think it's better this way at the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 08:55:35 No.35400871 Report

Quoted By: >>35400952

>>35400634
You know you just watched an actor that entertains children with visual comedy right? You understand that streamers do that to get their money right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 09:20:23 No.35400925 Report

Quoted By: >>35400961

>loses to NPC trainer
>"hurr, this Gen's shit durr"
>"but can't call me out on being useless"
Wow. Just wow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 09:31:38 No.35400952 Report

Quoted By: >>35401062 >>35401290

>>35400871
>I-I was just pretending to be a retard, I swear!
Go choke on a dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 09:35:25 No.35400961 Report

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>>35400925
>players shouldn't be punished for being bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 09:46:43 No.35400983 Report

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>Poor kid. Here, I'll put my plan on hold while you get back. Keep the exp you got while fighting me, it's the least I can do. Don't worry, I'll pretend it's the first time again.
>You lost like a chump. What, you want another chance? You can't un-lose unless you want to be a little resetting faggot.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 09:50:39 No.35400995 Report

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>>35400429
>lose to Lusamine in aether paradise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 10:28:11 No.35401062 Report

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>>35400952
Are you autistic anon? You don't understand what acting is?
You also think people in tv shows are acting natural?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 10:48:20 No.35401100 Report

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>>35400429
There was a dude who lost against Hau in Malie city and he was mad because he couldnt rematch him

autism desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 11:58:23 No.35401290 Report

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>>35400952
>he watches reality TV thinking it's real

Holy fucking shit how retarded can you be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 12:24:57 No.35401355 Report

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>>35400429
>>35400604
>>35400619
>>35400713
>I'm not retarded I was only Playing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 12:36:21 No.35401389 Report

Quoted By: >>35406417

>>35400695
>The scene afterwards actually plays out differently if you lose
Just checked this and it's literally identical in Ultra Moon. Don't know about S/M.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 13:26:06 No.35401561 Report

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>>35400529
>"So, S-Sun, w-what do you want to do t-today?"
>"Uh, yeah, Lillie, for a have to post pone that until later, your mom wants me to help her with some, uh, research. Alola!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 13:30:34 No.35401586 Report

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>>35400580
Full retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 14:23:14 No.35401856 Report

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>>35400539

Pokemon Black did it. I ended up losing to Ghetsis's Hydregion and so the game booted me out of Team Plasma's castle giving me the chance to level Reshiram up to level 54 to get it Dragon Pulse and some effort values.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 15:29:45 No.35402363 Report

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>>35400429
God, I wish I were you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 15:34:04 No.35402401 Report

Quoted By: >>35402476

what happens when you lose to her? what does she say?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 15:46:35 No.35402476 Report

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>>35402401
"See, I told you I can do this"
That's it. the rest of the dialogue stays the same in both Ultra Sun and regular Sun. It's stupid as hell because in Ultra Sun she didn't even get to fight Necrozma, it just blew her ang Guzma back as soon as they got close to it.

I'm still mad we didn't at least get to walk in on her pokemon loseing to Giovanni's mega mewtwo in the Rainbow Rocket arc, instead you get some nonsense about Giovanni using an ultra beast on her and when she wakes up he'll make her his servant, yet not only does Lusamine wake up just fine, there's no mention of an ultra beast anywhere. What the fuck was that? Should have just had her and Giovanni battle and a cutscene of her being slammed into a wall and getting knocked out,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 17:17:25 No.35403098 Report

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>>35400519
>You're not expected to win against Guzma and Lusamine in your first battles against them.

Wait, what? I steamrolled them in my Moon run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 17:24:31 No.35403154 Report

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>>35400429
>losing to Lusamine
>ever
lmao!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 18:04:49 No.35403439 Report

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>>35400689
>"It's very meaningless."
>it shows how much Lusamine is mad, out of control and childish in her actions
I think you didn't understand the character at this point. If you lose then Lusamine can fullfills her way without any problem, if she loses she will do it anyway because she didn't want to lose that battle, this means that the entire battle was on understanding the Lusamine madness and trying to stop her. She couldn't stay there and say "oh whatever you won, take nebby and fuck my daughter too if you like".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 18:16:46 No.35403497 Report

Quoted By: >>35403519

>>35400668
This post is spot on but apologists will rationalize anyway or miss the point completely. Fuck /vp/. Braindead retards that can't think for themselves and lap up anything with Pokémon on it.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 18:20:03 No.35403519 Report

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>>35403497
>i don't like what the game wants to communicate to me so it's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 22:24:42 No.35405503 Report

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>>35400429
>lose to villain
>no bad end
why do we keep playing these games?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Apr 2018 23:19:13 No.35405891 Report

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>game not resorting to time warping and save scumming when the player loses is bad
>story acknowledging the player lost a battle and asking them to accept it is bad

Pokémon players, fucking hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Apr 2018 00:33:57 No.35406417 Report

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>>35401389
I could've sworn I remember it playing out differently in ultra. I guess I'm misremembering from what I'm reading in the pastebin. Can't find a video of anyone losing to check it out.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Apr 2018 02:31:16 No.35407125 Report

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>>35400429
>Lose to Lusamine

How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Apr 2018 06:58:27 No.35408390 Report

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>>35400480
Of course not. If she's single she can't be with you! Then she wouldn't be single!

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