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Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 05:18:03 No.36011016 View View Reply Original Report

Is there a worse gameplay mechanic than trade evolution?

Answer: No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 05:20:04 No.36011030 Report

Quoted By: >>36012937 >>36013833 >>36018015 >>36022020

>>36011016
Festival Plaza
Dye Shops
Battle Agency

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 05:21:21 No.36011039 Report

Quoted By: >>36012163 >>36012362 >>36019545

>>36011016
It's fine. Pokémon like Porygon2, Politoed, and Scizor felt especially valuable in Gen II because of how difficult they were to obtain as a kid and how no Trainers owned any so you couldn't see them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 05:24:37 No.36011063 Report

Quoted By: >>36011075

Nice art here. Where I can find more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 05:25:59 No.36011075 Report

Quoted By: >>36011749

>>36011063

I made it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 05:45:39 No.36011181 Report

Quoted By: >>36011267

>>36011016
Trade evos are great.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 05:48:16 No.36011199 Report

Quoted By: >>36016933 >>36018631

>>36011016
*blocks you're path*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 06:01:52 No.36011262 Report

Quoted By: >>36011675

DPPt Spiritomb. GF really hates friendless people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 06:03:36 No.36011267 Report

Quoted By: >>36016927 >>36022340

>>36011181

How is it great?

Best case scenario it's just an tedious inconvenience you have to work out with a friend.

Worst case scenario you don't have anyone to trade with so you're stuck with shitty stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 06:16:48 No.36011322 Report

Quoted By: >>36013622

>>36011016
Whatever you'd call the mechanic where the bonus postgame town loses NPCs if you take too long in the main game.
Thanks Black and White I sure do love needing to link up with someone that has the other game to unfuck my version of the city since I didn't speedrun to the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 06:50:53 No.36011482 Report

Quoted By: >>36018015 >>36019261 >>36022635

>>36011016
Mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 06:53:17 No.36011491 Report

Quoted By: >>36014212

evasion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 07:42:57 No.36011656 Report

Quoted By: >>36012338 >>36013575

>>36011016
Either you're shit out of luck because you dont own two consoles or have a friend to bother to pass a kadabra back and forth, or you have some disgustingly overpowered pokemon before the second gym that just takes any challenge away from the game. It's objectively shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 07:47:17 No.36011675 Report

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>>36011262
It's a marketing scheme to get kids to convince other kids to convince their parents to buy the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 08:10:16 No.36011749 Report

Quoted By: >>36016333

>>36011075
Nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 08:14:17 No.36011771 Report

Quoted By: >>36012338 >>36013575

>>36011016
I'm sorry you have no friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 09:48:08 No.36012163 Report

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>>36011039
Trade evos are still valuable. I caught a bunch of Haunters in the abandoned market and was able to trade them up into most of the legendaries that aren't catchable in my version. People really like Gengar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:32:06 No.36012316 Report

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>>36011016
Sure, if you ignore all of the other ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:38:36 No.36012338 Report

Quoted By: >>36012351 >>36012801 >>36013575 >>36021868

>>36011656
>>36011771
Even a friend can refuse to trade your Kadabra back to you. Even a friend has free will and can decide at the last second he would rather make you suffer for his amusement. He doesn't even have to actually be your friend when he agrees to trade pokémon, he could just be pretending to be your friend so he can hurt you. Saying "trade with a friend" doesn't solve the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:41:33 No.36012346 Report

Quoted By: >>36018015

Location evolution. Sure trade evos can be a problem, but at least they don't demand a certain location be added into every single new region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:42:35 No.36012351 Report

Quoted By: >>36012364

>>36012338
if any kid did that to me i would have punched him, i remember when my friend matt lured me to the wildy and took my full mith in runescape and i pummeled him, never again did he fuck with me.
all my friends always traded me back, its pretty simple actually, they probably wanted a trade evo too so if u trade twice you can each get a trade evo pokemon you want

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:43:51 No.36012357 Report

Quoted By: >>36014239 >>36018015 >>36019286

Two slightly different versions of the one game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:45:41 No.36012362 Report

Quoted By: >>36013528 >>36014041 >>36014243 >>36016901

>>36011039
As someone that had no local pokemon friends as a kid, trade evolutions made me miss out on some of the coolest pokemon. It sucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:46:02 No.36012364 Report

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>>36012351
"Punch me all you want, it will NEVER bring back your Alakazam."
Then he rubbed a magnet on his game cartridge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:46:34 No.36012368 Report

Quoted By: >>36013575

Trade evolutions are the worst, I've never used a trade evo pokemon during a playthough because of that.
Even if I had friends who played pokemon it would be ridiculous to call them up to borrow their game/console every time I needed to evolve a party member when I'm doing a playthrough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:48:30 No.36012373 Report

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>>36011016

Trade evolution with 1-of item held.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:53:56 No.36012387 Report

Quoted By: >>36013575

>>36011016
Trade evolution is fine, it’s needing the held item thays fucking bullshit
I’m surprised Conkelldurr didn’t need to hold Liquid Sand to evolve

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 10:55:35 No.36012388 Report

Quoted By: >>36013575

>>36011016
Trade evolution is why Pokemon exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 11:20:56 No.36012481 Report

Quoted By: >>36012602 >>36022643

>trade evos
>when megas exist
Spastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 11:44:40 No.36012602 Report

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>>36012481
>le angry boomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 12:23:13 No.36012759 Report

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>>36011016
The Max Beauty evolution method of an already tedious to find fish Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 12:32:15 No.36012801 Report

Quoted By: >>36013613

>>36012338
He said trade with a friend, not trade with Eric Cartman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:13:43 No.36012924 Report

Quoted By: >>36013575 >>36022661

>>36011016
Trading is fine. It was easy enough to do back during the early gens and now with GTS it’s easy as hell. Plus most of the trade Pokémon were decent even when not evolved.
Megas are far worse. Digivolving a Pokémon runs counter to a the rest of the games mechanic. I’d rather gamefreak simply add an additional evolution stage and balance accordingly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:15:35 No.36012929 Report

Quoted By: >>36012952

>>36011016
there is a worse one
and it has to do with trading
that you cant change Pokemon nicknames if they are not yours

they should just remove trainers ID in general Keep SID of course but there is no need for that ID since Platinum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:17:42 No.36012937 Report

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>>36011030
"dye shops" in and of themselves are fine, costing 2 trillion berries is the issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:17:45 No.36012938 Report

Quoted By: >>36013575

THE GAME IS ABOUT COLLECTING, AND TRADING IS PART OF COLLECTING, THEREFORE IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE GAME

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:17:50 No.36012939 Report

Quoted By: >>36013575

Was trade evolutions rhe biggest backfire
>The idea was two friends traded a pokemon and kept it forever in it's new form
>kids just mashed A and swapped pokemon back and forth and got pissed when someone disconnected stealing their pokemon
Item trade evutions are even more bullshit since they could've just made it level up with said item

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:21:44 No.36012952 Report

Quoted By: >>36012975

>>36012929
I feel like they should at least let you nickname the pokemon if it doesn't already have one, or let you reset a nicknamed non to not having a nickname.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:31:35 No.36012975 Report

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>>36012952
NO! YOU SHOULD RESPECT PEOPLES' LABELS! IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE A DIRTY MONSTER THAT SHOULD BE THROWN TO THE WOLVES!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:33:17 No.36012981 Report

Quoted By: >>36013575

>>36011016
trade evolutions should also evolve naturally at level 80 or something, that way you'd still be able to get them even without any friends

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:36:24 No.36012988 Report

Quoted By: >>36013085

All evolution methods should be retconned to be either upon normal level-up or upon using an item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 13:54:39 No.36013085 Report

Quoted By: >>36014569

>>36012988
Even some of the ones that use items make no sense. Why does Raichu need a Thunderstone to evolve?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 14:02:33 No.36013130 Report

Quoted By: >>36013184 >>36018015 >>36020139 >>36022188

>friendship evos
>location-specific evos
>time-specific evos
>evos that require the mon to know a certain move
>evos that require an item that is locked behind postgame
>evos that require an item that there's a finite amount of
>those late game gen 5 shitmons that don't evolve into something useful until level 50 or higher
>baby pokemon
>roaming legendaries
>pokemon with a 1% encounter rate
>pokemon that are hidden behind some obtuse hunting method like using sweet scent, smashing rocks, headbutting trees, etc.
>any unholy combination of the above

Trade evos might be the least annoying gameplay mechanic nowadays. You don't even need to beg your parents for a Link Cable anymore.
Can't you just put your mon on the GTS with an impossible request then pull him out an hour later? Or did they patch that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 14:14:24 No.36013184 Report

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>>36013130
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha You think you can use whatever pokemon you want? You use the pokemon we want you to use, and only those pokemon. Apparently, you're too stupid to realize that, so we've made it so that even idiots like you won't be able to use anything but what we want to shill so that kids will buy it and everything else is just for show. They're only there to create artificial scarcity. That is how collectables work. Now shut up and buy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 15:46:10 No.36013528 Report

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>>36012362
Well I didn't have anyone to trade with either and that's why I valued those Pokémon above others. They (and Pokémon exclusive to Gen I at the time since I didn't have any Gen I games) were the ones that fascinated me most, the forbidden fruit. If I could have obtained them easily, they would have been much less memorable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 15:59:02 No.36013575 Report

Quoted By: >>36013604 >>36016837

>>36011016
>>36011656
>>36012338
>>36012368
>>36012387
>>36012388
>>36012924
>>36012938
>>36012939
>>36012981
>>36011771
Make it so trade evolutions occur with any P2P connectivity, such as battling. No need to relinquish a pokemon. Or create a special trade method that basically swaps them back after the initial exchange.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 16:05:46 No.36013604 Report

Quoted By: >>36014518

>>36013575
NO! YOU HAVE TO SACRIFICE THE POKEMON, OTHERWISE IT HAS NO VALUE!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 16:07:16 No.36013613 Report

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>>36012801
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 16:09:22 No.36013622 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011322
Black city/White forest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 16:11:24 No.36013631 Report

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>>36011016
Having an Alakzam by the second gym, or a Gengar/Golem by the third gym automatically makes trade evolution one of the best evolution methods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 17:02:45 No.36013833 Report

Quoted By: >>36018015

>>36011016
>>36011030

Battle Palace
Pokemon Musicals
Battle Royales

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 17:26:54 No.36013940 Report

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>>36011016
Entry hazards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 17:55:00 No.36014041 Report

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>>36012362
Well even with a friend who also played Pokémon, you'd only see them on the weekend and they'd forget their gameboy half the time. Because of this, I never used trade mons on my in game teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 17:58:16 No.36014051 Report

Quoted By: >>36018644

Speaking of trade, whatever happened to the trading threads that used to exist on vp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 18:10:45 No.36014095 Report

Quoted By: >>36014103 >>36014142 >>36014371

Okay, here's the real bullshit. How were you even supposed to know the existence of Magmar/Pinsir if you had Red or Electabuzz/Scyther if you have Blue? I replayed Red over the week and I battled every single trainer and talked to every single NPC and not one single mention or appearance. Defend this, GFshills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 18:12:41 No.36014103 Report

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>>36014095
Theyre secrets! It makes it special when you do figure them out. Word of mouth helps too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 18:20:34 No.36014142 Report

Quoted By: >>36014164

>>36014095
Depending on what starter you pick, you might not ever see one of the other starters' final form. I think only Blastoise is used by a random trainer, so if you picked Blastoise you won't see Charizard, and if you picked Charizard you won't see Venusaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 18:25:05 No.36014164 Report

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>>36014142
But you can logically infer their existence based on the fact that you see all three starters Oak's lab, separated in the dex by three, and you see two lines of evos, and the first and second stages of the other, so it's logical that you make the connection.

But you cannot even fathom the possibility of Magmar/Pinsir or the Blue equivalent without knowledge extraneous to the game, let alone the impossibility of obtaining them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 18:38:01 No.36014212 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011491
t. smogoncuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 18:46:15 No.36014239 Report

Quoted By: >>36018641

>>36012357
This. Why do we still get two different versions of the same game? Perhaps with earlier games, having different versions promoted more interaction with fellow players. Now, there's a huge community of us autists, so we don't need it anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 18:47:08 No.36014243 Report

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>>36012362
I had people to trade with but had no fucking idea that pokemon evolved through trade with items

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 19:19:57 No.36014371 Report

Quoted By: >>36020502

>>36014095

This isn't bullshit, this is what made Pokemon so fun. You had to explore and experiment and collaborate to figure things out.

Consider this: The evolutionary stones (minus the Moon stone) are sold in the Celadon Department Store. Unlike in all subsequent generations where they're a rare item, in Gen I they're readily available. Why? Because you had no idea what the fuck they were for, and even if you did figure out you could use them to evolve Pokemon you had no way of knowing what Pokemon they were used for.

Same with Trade Evolutions. Who the fuck knew about that?

I have two distinct memories from 1999: One is publicly theorizing that Golem (who everyone knew because of mechandise but nobody had actually encountered in-game) was evolved from Graveller and being treated like a 3rd grade Galileo. The other is reading in a random book that Nidorino/Nidorina evolve with the Moon Stone, and basically being one of the Wright Brothers for a week as everyone in the class was now able to get a Nidoking.

And Mew? Strictly a rumor, an urban legend spread by a friend of a friend.

It was a glorious time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 19:46:09 No.36014518 Report

Quoted By: >>36018635

>>36013604
Trading is not a bad feature. I'm saying this as someone who would get the most out of Pokémon if it was a series that could be 100%'d with a single cartridge and practically never uses multiplayer features. I temporarily altered my Red ROM so that Haunter, Machoke, Kadabra, and Graveler all evolve into their trade evolutions at level 70. I also temporarily altered the level 5 Pidgey encounter slot on Route 1 to be different starters to get them since the level 5 Pidgey had like a 1/255 chance of appearing anyway. If I made a ROM hack, I would implement ways to 100% it in a single-player run while also maintaining multiplayer functionality. But I think it would be a real shame to devalue a rare Pokémon. Like if Dunsparce had a 25% chance of appearing on a route normally, that would be disappointing. I want there to be actual effort put into looking for every rare Pokémon. If you could get any Pokémon at any time easily, you might as well not even be playing an RPG and should play a battle simulator instead.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 19:51:36 No.36014569 Report

Quoted By: >>36014651

>>36013085
Raichu doesn't evolve you idiot.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 19:59:42 No.36014616 Report

Quoted By: >>36016867

>>36011016
>he doesn't have friends
Sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jun 2018 20:08:15 No.36014651 Report

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>>36014569
retard

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 00:57:24 No.36016333 Report

Quoted By: >>36016863 >>36020225

>>36011749

Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 01:22:51 No.36016469 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011016
In-battle formes triggered by low HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 02:47:47 No.36016837 Report

Quoted By:

>>36013575
How about just have them evolve via levelup like normal pokemon? What in universe even triggers an evolution that occurs through trade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 02:54:30 No.36016863 Report

Quoted By:

>>36016333
Looks great, dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 02:55:15 No.36016867 Report

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>>36014616
So friends who don't play Pokemon don't count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 03:01:33 No.36016901 Report

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>>36012362
>not spending a year mowing lawns and shoveling snow to save up for another gameboy and the opposite verson to complete the pokedex

TRASHANoN

TRASHANoN Sun 01 Jul 2018 03:14:29 No.36016927 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011267
But i gotta finish dat pokedex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 03:17:48 No.36016933 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011199
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 03:26:51 No.36016951 Report

Quoted By: >>36017353

>>36011016
Honey trees

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 05:30:39 No.36017353 Report

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>>36016951
>He didn't figure out his Secret ID after catching a Shiny and then use Filb's calculator to determine his four Munchlax trees and slather those four trees every 12 hours for a week until a Munchlax showed up and then exploited the mechanic that got it to keep appearing by slathering only that tree again each time you battled one so that you got a whole box filled with Munchlax all holding Leftovers
>And also Heracross a few times

I felt like the bee's knees. What really gets me though is that Barry's team has both a Heracross and Munchlax/Snorlax, so you just know he was written as impatient for the irony of him having those Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 08:27:42 No.36017994 Report

Quoted By:

lol just make some fucking friends, losers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 08:31:12 No.36018015 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011030
>>36012346
>>36012357
>>36013130
>>36013833
All bad mechanics, but not even close to the shitshow cancer that is trade evolution.

>>36011482
Okay, this one is close.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 08:34:22 No.36018030 Report

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npcs that know protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 12:54:10 No.36018605 Report

Quoted By: >>36018626

>buy Y as it releases
>know about Trevenant and think it’s the coolest shit
>none of my friends play pokemon except for one who didn’t get X until weeks later

Neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 13:02:51 No.36018626 Report

Quoted By: >>36018646

>>36018605
>not asking on /vp/
Bro hit me up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 13:05:12 No.36018631 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011199
You are path.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 13:07:10 No.36018635 Report

Quoted By: >>36019259

>>36014518
>level 70
FUCKING WHY
You’ve done the elite four by then

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 13:07:18 No.36018636 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011016
Battle Masion RNG manipulation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 13:08:39 No.36018641 Report

Quoted By:

>>36014239
So we have slightly different experiences and we can have 3 trios

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 13:10:12 No.36018644 Report

Quoted By:

>>36014051
Injection killed them
Make a weekend thread or just tag onto Showdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 13:11:07 No.36018646 Report

Quoted By: >>36019287

>>36018626
>Having to ask someone I don’t trust and not an actual friend

Now we see the issue here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 13:35:35 No.36018721 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011016
mega evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 16:11:37 No.36019259 Report

Quoted By:

>>36018635
Exactly. I was completing the Pokédex and I didn't feel right about getting the trade evolutions without any real effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 16:12:34 No.36019261 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011482

nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 16:14:24 No.36019267 Report

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Stall mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 16:17:57 No.36019286 Report

Quoted By:

>>36012357
This is much worse than trade evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 16:18:04 No.36019287 Report

Quoted By:

>>36018646
>anon will steal your SHIT IV AND NATURE gengar
Ofc why didn’t I think of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 17:18:40 No.36019545 Report

Quoted By: >>36019777

>>36011039
yeah that’s exactly what Gen II needed more of, mons that you couldn’t find

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 18:03:46 No.36019777 Report

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>>36019545
Directing you to >>36017132 because it sums up my thoughts on Pokémon that are difficult to obtain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 19:03:53 No.36020103 Report

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Yeah it's really annoying. Good thing I have VBA link

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 19:06:49 No.36020127 Report

Quoted By:

>>36011016
Z-MOVES
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S

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 19:08:20 No.36020139 Report

Quoted By: >>36020269

>>36013130
>>friendship evos
>>time-specific evos
>>evos that require the mon to know a certain move
>>roaming legendaries
>>pokemon with a 1% encounter rate
>>pokemon that are hidden behind some obtuse hunting method like using sweet scent, smashing rocks, headbutting trees, etc.

these are fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 19:28:13 No.36020225 Report

Quoted By: >>36021992

>>36016333
Also nice. Nice trips as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 19:40:52 No.36020269 Report

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>>36020139
roaming legendaries are just boring. how can you defend that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jul 2018 20:20:27 No.36020502 Report

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>>36014371
>pokemons was fun when i was the "smartest" and i knew shit that were super obvious !
t.boomer

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 00:07:54 No.36021868 Report

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>>36012338
Sounds like you had a rough childhood.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 00:26:07 No.36021992 Report

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>>36020225

Triple threes for Pokemon #3. What are the odds?

Rolling for quads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 00:30:39 No.36022020 Report

Quoted By: >>36022062

>>36011030
festival plaza is good, you need to get your head out of your ass and stop equating the entirety of festival plaza to "duhh it replaced pss so its bad"
theres a lot more to it than being an online hub you know. did you think join avenue was "one of the worst gameplay mechanics" too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 00:33:37 No.36022034 Report

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>letting ANYONE in real life know that you play Pokémon
Oh no no no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 00:37:15 No.36022062 Report

Quoted By: >>36022077

>>36022020
WiFi Plaza was fine, Join Avenue was fine, PSS was fine, Festival Plaza is the worst possible thing they could replace all that good shit with, so you need to fucking keep your garbage opinions to yourself, you winter olympian

don't @ me you fucking faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 00:40:53 No.36022077 Report

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>>36022062
nice in depth thorough, well thought out explanation. really changed my mind
>@

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 00:59:37 No.36022188 Report

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>>36011016
It's annoying but I can get around that most of the time.

>SOS battles
Bad substitute for horde battles. They interrupt you way too often. Hiding some Pokemon behind this mechanic (like Mareanie and Dragonite) is a dick move.
>Current stat system (mainly IVs and natures)
Very inconvenient when breeding. Triggers my OCD in normal playthroughs.
>high encounter rate
I bring repels everywhere because I can't stand common wild battles. Caves and water routes are annoying. DP's Stark Mountain and RBY's Cerulean Cave are fucking horrible because of high level encounters. HGSS have obnoxious encounter rate in general, while ORAS are actually bearable (I can swim without repels in these games).
>Infatuation
Bullshit percentage. I had many cases when I couldn't move for 4-5 turns.
>Pokemon Musicals
Limited, cryptic with its mechanics and overall pointless.
>Game Corner
More like 'waste hours of your life pressing one button to get good move corner'.
>Most of battle facilities
Cheating AI with extremely discouraging punishment for losing once. Battle Pyramid and Battle Palace are the worst.

>>36013130
Fucking hell, you hate variety.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 01:32:45 No.36022340 Report

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>>36011267
this is something someone without friends would say

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 02:14:09 No.36022538 Report

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Pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 02:23:11 No.36022582 Report

Quoted By: >>36022588

>>36011016
wtf is wrong with this shit coloring

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 02:24:17 No.36022588 Report

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>>36022582

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 02:37:59 No.36022635 Report

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>>36011482
Kys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 02:40:28 No.36022643 Report

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>>36012481
Fuck off, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 02:42:31 No.36022661 Report

Quoted By: >>36022681 >>36022897

>>36012924
Join the other two faggots and kill yourself, you fucking retard. Who the fuck seriously thinks Mega Evolutions (which are awesome), something entirely optional, is worse than Trade evolutions? Fucking unbelievable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 02:44:58 No.36022681 Report

Quoted By: >>36022727

>>36022661
Because now those Pokemon can’t get evolutions, and now Pokemon won’t get more evolutions, so we can’t see eviolite Skarmonry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 02:52:21 No.36022727 Report

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>>36022681
>"muh shitmon won't be able to evolve into a bigger shitmon, he'll just get an OP form that will make him actually useful"
>"muh eviolite NFE"

Like, in some cases, I agree with you (Mega Audino should have been a regular evolution) and to counter my own argument, some Gen 4 evos are good in battle (Tangrowth) but if Magmortar, Electivire and Rhyperior were Megas instead of regular evoltutions of Pokémon with an already relatively high BST, they would have had bigger stat increases and actually be good. Basically, the problem is GF's incompetence to choose which Pokémon should get a Mega or not, not the mechanic itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 03:01:54 No.36022771 Report

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>you don't have friends xD
who the fuck has friends that will suddenly download an emulator and rom to help you evolve a pokemon? are you people projecting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 03:34:32 No.36022897 Report

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>>36022661

It just feels like a middle-of-the-road solution.

For many Pokemon it takes the place of a regular evolution. There's no reason Houndoom or Kangaskhan couldn't get actual evolutions instead of Mega Evolutions.

For Pokemon with three forms already it comes off as a way to give them an evolution without breaking the arbitrary self-imposed three-stage limitation.

For Pokemon like Charizard and Gyarados it feels like an excuse to change their type without actually doing so.

And above all it feels like a response to power creep, by giving popular Pokemon a 100 point boost to their BST.

Instead of going through the roster and doing some real tweaking they just invented a new mechanic as a catch-all for all these things.

It's just half-assed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 06:34:10 No.36023582 Report

Quoted By: >>36024878

I've never used a Alakazam or Gengar or any trades evos in a playthrough because I never had any friends to trade with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 12:38:39 No.36024721 Report

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>>36011016

The two biggest themes in pokemon is becoming attached to your partner pokemon and watching them get stronger through evolution.

Trade evolution shits on all of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jul 2018 13:19:04 No.36024878 Report

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>>36023582
To be fair, gen 1 kadabra was still really good.

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