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>>36291514
No good counters in Gen V, nothing could safely switch into it because it could OHKO/2HKO almost every other mon. 4X weakness and Fairy ruining its otherwise neutral STAB coverage obliterates it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:08:13 No.36291614 Report

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>>36291571
>>36291577
>95
>slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:08:54 No.36291615 Report

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>>36291614
>under 110
Slow indeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:09:48 No.36291618 Report

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>>36291614
For the current meta? Yes, absolutely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:10:45 No.36291623 Report

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>>36291614
108 scarfed is minimum for nonshit speed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:11:15 No.36291626 Report

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>>36291615
SLOW
FRAIL
MIXED ATTACKER

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:13:02 No.36291637 Report

Quoted By: >>36291655

He was still pretty widely used in 2014 and 2015. Pretty sure cybertrons 2014 worlds team used a scarf hydregion... maybe it was a regionals team tho. Hes a good pin if you can set it up right it's not a braindead mon is the only difference now vs in gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:14:22 No.36291641 Report

Quoted By: >>36292058

It was already gonna fall without it
He’s a joke now that we have fairies now.

Hydreigon really started the trend of useless RU quality pseudos. Hydreigon, Goodra, and Kommo-o can all chill in lower tiers together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:15:31 No.36291644 Report

Quoted By: >>36291666

>>36291514
>Be King Ghidorah/Hydra Pokemon
>Can't learn Gunk Shot, Sludge Bomb, or Sludge Wave

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:17:05 No.36291654 Report

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>>36291514
*blocks you’re path*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:17:17 No.36291655 Report

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>>36291637
Was it really that braindead in Gen. V?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:18:51 No.36291662 Report

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>>36291514
>>meta king for a single generation
ummm no sweaty, that was latios, sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 14:19:36 No.36291666 Report

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>>36291644
Belch through breeding

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 15:27:19 No.36291885 Report

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>>36291654
>252 SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Dark Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tapu Lele: 146-173 (51.9 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Not a safe switch in unless Lele is scarfed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 15:30:02 No.36291903 Report

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>>36291885
Well don’t switch a revenge killer into a Pokemon with based 120+ special attack dingus

Did you really have to calc to realize that play would be stupid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:08:09 No.36292058 Report

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>>36291641
Hydreigon still sits in UU though? All it needs is a Mega to be great again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:10:14 No.36292067 Report

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>>36291605
It gets Flash Canon though. Honestly the 4x Fairy weakness would not be a big deal if it could outspeed more things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:13:17 No.36292073 Report

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>>36292067
Z Flash Canon is decent and some people don't see it coming

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:30:21 No.36292131 Report

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>>36292058
Only if that Mega gives a big enough boost to speed that it can now outspeed most of its problems and an ability that mitigates Dragon or Dark's weakness to Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:32:59 No.36292148 Report

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>>36291514
GF does not care about Smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:37:38 No.36292166 Report

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>>36292058
Anon it would still be a shitmon as a mega.
Just look at kommo-o, it got a new z move and is still underwhelming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:38:52 No.36292168 Report

Quoted By: >>36292190

>>36292166
>Anon it would still be a shitmon as a mega.
It's not like megas can fundamentally change the entire Pokemon and make hot garbage like Lopunny and Charizard into a viable picks unlike Z-Moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:39:40 No.36292175 Report

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>>36292166
>Hydreigon is not a shitmon
>Kommo-o is not Hydreigon
>Z-moves are not Mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:40:48 No.36292182 Report

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>>36292166
Z-Moves aren't comparable to Megas in the slightest.
One's a single-use move that just does big damage or something mild like a temporary stat buff that can be fucked over by a forced switch, the other's a +100 BST Boost from a form that lasts until that Pokemon faints, that may or may not go full minmax in the process as well as giving potential for a brand new ability that could be extremely useful either by covering for weaknesses, improving its movepool or just plain making it tougher to beat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:42:44 No.36292190 Report

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>>36292168
We'll make it bulkier and remove 10 in speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:44:23 No.36292201 Report

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>>36291514
hydregion now has a dragon/steel regional variant . It still has mostly the same movepool but now learns aura sphere and has mega launcher, is it BL tier?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 16:45:29 No.36292210 Report

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>mfw Mega Hydreigon has an ability that badly poison a Pokemon every time it switches in

Stallfags would be on suicide watch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:15:36 No.36292344 Report

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>>36292166
>UU is apparently a Shitmon now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:17:34 No.36292354 Report

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>>36292344
It's always been like this. It's a tier for garbage that's not good enough for OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:20:44 No.36292371 Report

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>>36292166
Look at what Mega evolution did to Metagross and Salamence. Assuming GF doesn't make it redundant like with Garchomp and Tyranitar(who tbf were already top tier), a Mega for Hydreigon would be a significant boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:24:00 No.36292390 Report

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>>36291571
Speed is a meme stat

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Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:25:42 No.36292396 Report

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>>36292390
It's my favorite meme. Give me that nuke gyro ball

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Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:26:44 No.36292404 Report

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>>36292354
And OU is a tier for garbage not good enough to be ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:29:06 No.36292421 Report

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>>36292404
Wrong. Half of Ubers isnt good enough for Ubers.
Half of UU is good enough to be played in OU and frequently see NU picks show up in OUs meta from time to time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:30:56 No.36292433 Report

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>>36292421
Leave smogon tiger to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:32:41 No.36292448 Report

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>>36292433
>You lived long enough to see Avalugg become relevant

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Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:38:20 No.36292471 Report

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>>36292433
>tfw this is a pokemon
>tfw I forgot this was a legit pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Aug 2018 17:59:34 No.36292553 Report

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>>36291614
yes, slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Aug 2018 00:47:30 No.36294510 Report

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>>36291514
lmao fuck that gay ass thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Aug 2018 00:56:31 No.36294558 Report

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>>36292433
*places drink on*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Aug 2018 01:14:07 No.36294661 Report

Quoted By: >>36294741 >>36294985

>>36291615
110 speed is ass too. At minimum, a good speed stat is anything over base 120.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Aug 2018 01:25:08 No.36294741 Report

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>>36291614
>>36291615
>>36294661
100 is the sweet spot

>Charizard
>M-Kangaskhan
>Zapdos
>M-Gardevoir
>Salamence
>Volcarona

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Aug 2018 02:12:06 No.36294985 Report

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>>36294741
>>36294661
>Not 170 speed with speed boost
Is there a point where you should be allowed to outspeed priority? Because i think Ninjask should be allowed to do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Aug 2018 05:34:38 No.36296004 Report

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>>36292396
BUILD THE WALL
DEPORT THEM ALL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Aug 2018 05:41:38 No.36296040 Report

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>>36291514
this thing was never meta relevant

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