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Chikorita is based

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 12:55:41 No.36607587 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>36607610 >>36607796 >>36607818 >>36607950 >>36608419 >>36608499 >>36609231 >>36611417 >>36611529 >>36611640 >>36611709 >>36611748

These three don’t deserve the hate they get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:00:31 No.36607610 Report

Quoted By: >>36607616 >>36607620 >>36607637 >>36609120 >>36611326 >>36611417 >>36611796

>>36607587
I've never really seen anyone hate them.

It's more a lack of caring. They're cute enough but utterly trash to actually use. And I say that as someone who had plenty of fun playing through B2 with Snivy solo. I've found it more fun using Unown on my team.

Most talk I've seen are much the same. They like them, they're just one of the most unusable Pokémon. Not the absolute worst but definitely in the bottom 10.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:01:32 No.36607616 Report

Quoted By: >>36607630

>>36607610
Fpbp
It's hated for is usage, not the design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:02:06 No.36607620 Report

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>>36607610
Dude, literally every place hates them. Even reddit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:03:17 No.36607628 Report

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>>36607620
Redditors have no taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:03:56 No.36607630 Report

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>>36607616
I hate it for the design. It's fucking ugly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:04:57 No.36607634 Report

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>>36607630
They’re all cute, especially the first two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:05:58 No.36607637 Report

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>>36607610
It's hard to hate them but it's also hard to love them. Their design is so bland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:12:53 No.36607665 Report

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meganium pretty cool. the stamen antenna are neat. it's not my favourite choice for a starter, mostly for being like a diluted venusaur, but it's definitely closer to the top choices than the bottom ones. pretty solid design.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:14:03 No.36607670 Report

Quoted By: >>36607867 >>36608800

>its too weak!
/vp/ I thought you were better than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:46:36 No.36607796 Report

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>>36607587
True. Them being shit in battle isn't true either since they're perfectly fine to use in the story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 13:51:56 No.36607818 Report

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>>36607587
Meganium fucked up. Does not look cute like the first two but doesn't look cool either. Type, stats, ability and moves are also as mediocre as it gets. Barren movepool except for the usual tired muh dual screens stall shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 14:02:08 No.36607858 Report

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>>36607796
>In story

Anything is perfectly usable in story

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 14:03:22 No.36607867 Report

Quoted By: >>36607888

>>36607670
Fuck off you absolute faggot, Karen is a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 14:07:16 No.36607883 Report

Quoted By: >>36608569

Chikorita and Bayleef really don't, since they're pretty cute and, not being fully evolved Pokemon, it doesn't really matter how good or bad they are

Meganium though, it's utter shite and does nothing literally any other grass-type assmon can do. Plus, it's design is a straight downgrade from Bayleef's, being a final evo that looks as menacing as the middle one (not at all) and being way less cute. Meganium was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 14:08:50 No.36607888 Report

Quoted By: >>36608208

>>36607867
haha mom i called someone a faggot again, i'm the hacker known as 4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 14:27:14 No.36607950 Report

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>>36607587
literally my first pokemon i love him but dont use starters anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 15:32:14 No.36608208 Report

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>>36607888
People who actually believe in what Karen says in a game that's all numbers and odds are actual faggots. It's an objective truth to think that friendship and emotions play any role in this game. Other than altering Return and Frustration's power, of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 15:33:21 No.36608217 Report

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>>36608208
An objective truth to think that these things play a role in the game, I mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:14:05 No.36608419 Report

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>>36607587
>Chikorita
Great
>Bayleef
Amazing
>Meganium
Oh shit nigger what are you doing?
Ditching the headleaf was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:26:57 No.36608499 Report

Quoted By: >>36608838

>>36607587
They are great against Whiyney's Miltank, between resisting rollout and increasing both defence and special defense.
I suspect people find them useless because they try to go all out offensive instead of setting up defenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:28:34 No.36608506 Report

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>>36608208
No one things they're nakamura buddies with their pokemon dipshit. Pokemon is piss easy and you dont need to use numbers and odds playing the main game. Using the most optimal possible pokemon to bulldoze your way through an easy kids game instead of just designs you like is autistic as shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:32:21 No.36608532 Report

Quoted By: >>36609095

Hating the design is justifiable as it's really a question of taste, but saying Meganium's bad in GSC battle just means you suck at GSC.

In its generation, Meganium had good defenses, useful resistances, great support options and some good (and surprising) offensive options.

Even comparing it to other Grass types Meganium came second to Exeggutor in desirability, beating Venusaur that people mis-remember as being consistently good.

Since then, it's become trash as it was mostly ignored by GF like the other GSC starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:32:48 No.36608537 Report

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literally the worst grass starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:36:55 No.36608569 Report

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>>36607883
>>36608419
I kinda like the flowers, but the antenna were definitely a mistake.
What if it was more like a tree, with blossoms all over?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:40:45 No.36608601 Report

Quoted By: >>36608650 >>36608720 >>36609031

I love their designs and Synthesis is an incredibly useful tool in restrictive itemless runs, but just look at the gyms:

Falkner (Flying)
>weak defensively, resisted offensively
Bugsy (Bug)
>weak defensively, resisted offensively
Whitney (Normal)
>neutral defensively (but resists Rollout), neutral offensively
Morty (Ghost/Poison)
>neutral defensively (move wise), resisted offensively
Chuck (Fighting)
>neutral defensively, neutral offensively (but effective against Poliwrath)
Jasmine (Steel)
>neutral defensively, resisted offensively
Pryce (Ice)
>weak defensively, neutral offensively (thanks to secondary typings)
Clair (Dragon)
>neutral defensively, resisted offensively

The Elite Four is just as bad with the constant Poison or Flying mons. This coupled with Meganium's absolutely horrendous coverage (literally just Grass and Normal) and the plethora of alternative grass types completely seals the deal as worst starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:46:22 No.36608650 Report

Quoted By: >>36608671

>>36608601
Meganium does not resist roll out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:48:41 No.36608671 Report

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>>36608650
Well that's even worse then lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 16:55:16 No.36608720 Report

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>>36608601
Meganium has kind of an edge on Clair since her ace Kingdra doesn’t resist Meganium’s grass STAB, unlike Typhlosion and Feraligatr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:08:14 No.36608800 Report

Quoted By: >>36608872

>>36607670
>Demolished by a ten year old who got his starter a week ago
>F-fucking smogonfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:13:01 No.36608838 Report

Quoted By: >>36611417 >>36611462

>>36608499
Defensive pokemon are so painful to use in-game. Meganium is in the same boat as say Shuckle or Carbink. Arguably some utility but hyper offense is still gonna get you to the same place much faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:15:41 No.36608858 Report

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>>36608506
>No one things they're nakamura buddies with their pokemon dipshit
False. Some people definitely believe that. Mind you they're also autistic as shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:16:46 No.36608872 Report

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>>36608800
but she says that before you battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:32:17 No.36609031 Report

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>>36608601
>but resists Rollout),
wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:37:19 No.36609075 Report

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>>36607858
And that's why there's no Pokémon that are bad in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:39:06 No.36609095 Report

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>>36608532
Finna this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:42:12 No.36609120 Report

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>>36607610
but they get so much hate
if you have rate one of the chikorita line highly on a favourite starters chart or something you always get bullied and disregarded for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:47:47 No.36609176 Report

Quoted By: >>36610073

I actually always make the rival pick it in SS, while I myself have started boxing the starter (especially for nuzlockes).

Just think its cute to imagine Silver cuddling hos Chikorita, or training it to beat the bellsprouts. Good times

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 17:52:58 No.36609231 Report

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>>36607587
I like the idea of a support/healer-oriented starter. It's too bad the 4-move limit and the general battle system sucks ass for Meganium to work.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 19:13:39 No.36610073 Report

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>>36609176
>silver is this guy but the sandshrew is a chikorita

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Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 22:38:48 No.36611326 Report

Quoted By: >>36611398

>>36607610
>New games are too easy
>I hate Chikorita because it's too hard to beat GSC with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 22:54:20 No.36611398 Report

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>>36611326
>I hate Chikorita because it's too hard to beat GSC with it
Problem is that the Chikorita line is bad in a way that makes it not fun to use. I've played with all sort of shitmon through story mode and I can tell you that the ones with a horrid offensive movepool are the least fun of them all.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sun 23 Sep 2018 22:58:57 No.36611417 Report

Quoted By: >>36611462 >>36611486

>>36607587
Honestly, Chikorita has been getting a lot of fans lately. Whether that's because of anime nostalgia or contrarianism I'm pretty happy with it.

>>36607610
>>36611398
>>36608838
>I've found it more fun using Unown on my team.
>Meganium is in the same boat as say Shuckle or Carbink

See anon, it's when you say things like this that your post becomes a meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:07:15 No.36611462 Report

Quoted By: >>36611478

>>36611417
Why did you even quote my post if you just responded to >>36608838 ?

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:11:37 No.36611478 Report

Quoted By: >>36611503

>>36611462
Oops, that was a mistake. But you're wrong too. Normal/Grass coverage is perfectly fine in-game. It's only really resisted by Steel-types and Gengar, which you shouldn't be using Meganium against anyways, obviously. Just admit that you don't like using defensive pokemon and end it there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:12:57 No.36611486 Report

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>>36611417
>Whether that's because of anime nostalgia
Anime Chikorita is fucking annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:16:10 No.36611503 Report

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>>36611478
Defensive Pokemon are fine, having your only offensive moves be tackle and razor leaf for 30+ levels isn't. The other starters are just more fun to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:21:07 No.36611529 Report

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>>36607587
It all boils down to Meganium needing a buff since years.
I still have one breeded back in gen III,
and I barely find any reason to use it over any other defensive or utility grass type.
Also shit hidden ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:22:39 No.36611536 Report

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Don't hate, they just suck in-game lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:38:27 No.36611640 Report

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>>36607587
>Chikorita
cute loli dinosaur thing
>Bayleef
Cute but badass and stronger looking
>Meganium
Derpy barney looking piece of shit with autism antenas. evo line ruined

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:45:51 No.36611688 Report

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>>36608858
>nakamura
Who is this, also Karen has actual since, if all you care about is winning instead of having fun as your goal in mind, why are you playing the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:48:03 No.36611709 Report

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>>36607587
bland AND too cutesy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:51:12 No.36611719 Report

Quoted By: >>36611723 >>36611749

Bayleef is only memorable because people wanted to fuck Ash's Bayleef.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:51:38 No.36611723 Report

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>>36611719
Sounds like you're projecting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:55:42 No.36611748 Report

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>>36607587
They smell nice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 23 Sep 2018 23:55:57 No.36611749 Report

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>>36611719
the anime clearly had an influence

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Anonymous Mon 24 Sep 2018 00:01:54 No.36611796 Report

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>>36607610
It literally has nothing to do with that. Cyndaquil and Totodile were infinitely more appealing and popular, so a small minority used it and therefore have less of a memory towards it. Every generation has arguments of which was the best, but none were as decisively 3rd place like Chikorita was.

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