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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 05:33:42 No.37404703 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37404735 >>37404762 >>37404774 >>37404839 >>37405149 >>37405429

>go to actually play OU after a long time
>Gengar no longer has Levitate
Are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 05:46:08 No.37404735 Report

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>>37404703
So Mega Gengar pre-mega has less things to switch into.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 05:48:14 No.37404742 Report

Quoted By: >>37404803

use a real ghost type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 05:55:03 No.37404762 Report

Quoted By: >>37404851 >>37405287

>>37404703

I legitimately think it's because Gengar's model is grounded and gamefreak was afraid of kiddies being confused how it would be immune to ground. Just like some flying/levitating pokemon still have shitty floating models even though they look awful

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 05:57:31 No.37404774 Report

Quoted By: >>37404855 >>37405250 >>37405383 >>37405864

>>37404703
>Pokemon who could do Sky Battles glide in place for the 3DS games even in Gen 7.
>Mismagius still doesn't have Banshee's Scream to further stray from Gengar. 8PP, sharply lower both defenses, whoa what a difficult change devs.
>Gengar still not revised to learn sludge bomb.
>Gengar still can't use the fucking Sludge Wave TM despite being GameFreak focusing on doubles.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 06:05:57 No.37404803 Report

Quoted By: >>37405239 >>37405416 >>37406751

>>37404742
>literally the original ghost type
Eat shit. Guess I'll use Garchomp instead. Just had a guy rage quit on my after I Sword Danced on his ass into Outrage. Motherfucker it's 2019 run a Fairy.
Not like the old days when you could run Multiscale Dragonite and Swift Swim Kingdra on the same team. Those were some fucked up times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 06:19:40 No.37404839 Report

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>>37404703
Cursed body is by no means as good as levitate but Gengar itself is still pretty solid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 06:24:46 No.37404851 Report

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>>37404762
It's because Gengar makes more sense as connected to ground being a shadow-based mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 06:25:53 No.37404855 Report

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>>37404774
Gastly still can't learn poison gas either.
LGPE was a great way to fix small problems yet they BEEF'D IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 07:56:20 No.37405149 Report

Quoted By: >>37405299

>>37404703
Cursed Body is better than Levitate. Gengar a shit regardless. Blacephalon is the only usable Ghost for most playstyles.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 08:24:02 No.37405239 Report

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>>37404803
>Eat shit. Guess I'll use Garchomp instead.
Big Chomper is underrated, but it's not exactly a Gengar replacement 2bh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 08:28:04 No.37405250 Report

Quoted By: >>37405305 >>37405314

>>37404774
gengar gets both those moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 08:44:45 No.37405287 Report

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>>37404762

So could you please explain to me why the magnemite line doesnt get levitate when they clearly float?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 08:50:33 No.37405299 Report

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>>37405149
Blacephalon doesn't get icy wind or poison stab for doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 08:52:21 No.37405305 Report

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>>37405250
Sludge Wave was an event, but it can't be taught by TM. There's lots of weird situations like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 08:53:32 No.37405309 Report

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>>37405287
Because it learns magnet rise.
It levitation is still connected to the ground unlike koffing who is just filled with light gas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 08:55:08 No.37405314 Report

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>>37405250
I was referring to learning sludge bomb by level up for casual playthroughs, my bad for forgetting that part.
Gengar's access to sludge wave is absolutely retarded since you need to send dream world Gastly over from Gen 5 or get an event Gengar from Gen 6.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 09:22:48 No.37405383 Report

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>>37404774
>Gengar still can't use the fucking Sludge Wave TM despite being GameFreak focusing on doubles.

Even if Gengar could learn it through TM, more single players would rejoice about it than doubles players.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 09:31:32 No.37405416 Report

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>>37404803
Don't use Outrage. The best and arguably only good Chomp set is Rockium Z SD EQ Stone Edge Stealth Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 09:40:46 No.37405429 Report

Quoted By: >>37405446 >>37405849 >>37405874

>>37404703
For some reason they decided to nerf both Gengar and Talonflame only. Ad it makes no fucking sense considering all the broken stuff they added this gen. And Toxapex.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 09:45:59 No.37405446 Report

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>>37405429
Talonflame was nerfed because it was great in doubles, even in the Primal meta..

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 12:19:45 No.37405849 Report

Quoted By: >>37406037

>>37405429
several megas got slight nerfs due to their abilities not boosting their damage output as much. aerialate/pixilate went from a 30% boost to 20%, second hit from Parental Bond went from 50% strength to 25%. but simultaneously the new mechanics involving mega evolutions changing speed stats meant that most of them got a minor buff in g7 too (at the expense of mega hera and mega chomp getting cucked)

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 12:21:28 No.37405856 Report

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Reminder that Gengarfags are insufferable faggots and should be gassed.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 12:23:22 No.37405864 Report

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>>37404774
Pretty sure Sludge Wave hits your teammate so most people would still opt. for sludge bomb. People would use it more in singles than they would doubles.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 12:26:21 No.37405874 Report

Quoted By: >>37405882

>>37405429
Toxapex is meh in Doubles, so they don't care. The things that got nerfed (-ilate abilities, Parental Bond, Gale Wings) all got nerfed because they were broken in Doubles. Gengar didn't get nerfed at all, at least not consciously, the ability was changed for reasons of thematic consistency.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 12:29:29 No.37405882 Report

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>>37405874
It's a buff more than anything considering how popular terrains are now thanks to Tapu fucks. Now Gengar gets all the benefits it wouldn't previously get.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 13:31:56 No.37406037 Report

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>>37405849
As well as Mega Sableye since iirc in Gen7 it doesn't get to use Prankster on the turn it megas

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 14:38:13 No.37406227 Report

Quoted By: >>37406257

I don't really get why Gengar was nerfed. He always struck me as one of those Pokémon that was strong and is always used a lot but not overpowered or oppressive. Cursed body is such a weird choice for a squishy Pokémon too.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 14:52:47 No.37406257 Report

Quoted By: >>37406295 >>37406307

>>37406227
It wasn't nerfed. GF didn't wake up one day and decide that Gengar with Levitate was too strong. They just looked at the mon, its grounded design and the fact that everything else with Levitate floats and gave it an ability that fits better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 15:07:29 No.37406295 Report

Quoted By: >>37406576

>>37406257
>They just looked at the mon, its grounded design and the fact that everything else with Levitate floats and gave it an ability that fits better.
In the same gen where they actually show Gengar levitating in the overworld? Yeah, I don't think so.
What happened is that GF wanted Gengar to benefit from Terrains. In their mind they were buffing Gengar, but since GF is incompetent they just nerfed it

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 15:09:52 No.37406307 Report

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>>37406257
>GF didn't just wake up and randomly decide to do this thing
>they woke up and randomly decided to do this other thing instead

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 16:18:56 No.37406576 Report

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>>37406295
>What happened is that GF wanted Gengar to benefit from Terrains. In their mind they were buffing Gengar, but since GF is incompetent they just nerfed it
Honestly this is the most believable one.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 16:58:17 No.37406751 Report

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>>37404803
Garchomp is the worst Pokémon design, use something with a good design instead

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jan 2019 17:09:03 No.37406803 Report

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>>37406751
I would if anything in OU had a good design.

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