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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 10:53:13 No.37442471 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37442478 >>37442481 >>37442499 >>37442783 >>37442929 >>37442975 >>37443368

I miss when pokemon were actually based off of animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 10:54:55 No.37442478 Report

Quoted By: >>37442492 >>37442499 >>37442510 >>37442910

>>37442471
??? No one says this. Gen 1 Pokemon look the least like real life animals out of any generation.

What they probably mean is "I miss when Pokemon had more believable anatomy instead of being designed as toys"

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 10:55:14 No.37442481 Report

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>>37442471
Anything that isn't Gen 1 is not a Pokemon in my eyes

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 10:57:14 No.37442491 Report

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>>37442481
Don't forget about magnemite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 10:57:17 No.37442492 Report

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>>37442478
Someone on youtube listed all mons made from objects: Gen3 is the most objects-based gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 10:57:59 No.37442499 Report

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>>37442478
>What they probably mean is "I miss when Pokemon had more believable anatomy instead of being designed as toys"
>>37442471
>is believable anatomy
Genwunners are a literal contradiction

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 10:59:28 No.37442509 Report

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Voltorb and Electrode are among the worst designs in the entire franchise.
>inb4 "muh mimics"

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 10:59:53 No.37442510 Report

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>>37442478
>believable anatomy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 11:01:10 No.37442518 Report

Quoted By: >>37442526 >>37443031 >>37443838

>>37442499
Yes it's believable. The entire point of the Pokemon is that it resembles a Poke Ball and it appeared mysteriously in factories with Poke Balls, implying it's artificial. They didn't just choose to make it a round shape with eyes for no reason.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 11:04:17 No.37442526 Report

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>>37442518
>They didn't just choose to make it a round shape with eyes for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 11:05:19 No.37442530 Report

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>>37442510
Yup. Thanks for posting another believable gen 1 design anon. It's a lot more convincing than shit like Zygarde Cell where they gave it a bulbous head and a big oval eye because they were too focused on making it a cute anime mascot instead of a believable monster design. Ditto's amorphous shape and extremely simple face emphasize the fact that it's a shapeless blob that can restructure itself into anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 11:07:24 No.37442541 Report

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>>37442526
Gastly doesn't have a shape, because it's a gaseous ghost. That's why its eyes are drawn to reach outside of the black part in the middle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 11:17:39 No.37442573 Report

Quoted By: >>37442577 >>37443038

Gen 1 is the worst generation of Pokemon designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 11:18:41 No.37442577 Report

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>>37442573
best*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 12:43:43 No.37442783 Report

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>>37442471
I miss when pokemon were actual monsters

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 12:48:39 No.37442796 Report

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>>37442526
Gastly's original design was just a cloud of poison gas. The ball came later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 12:53:14 No.37442801 Report

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>>37442492
>that dumb video that counts Blastoise, Scyther, and any Pokémon with an object motif as objectmon when they are supposed to be “object + face”

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 13:27:09 No.37442910 Report

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>>37442478
>I don't know what the mineral egg group is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 13:33:25 No.37442929 Report

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>>37442471
>>37442509
If Voltorb was a standalone I'd be fine with it. The fact that they just flipped it upside down to make an evolution is the real problem, that's easily the laziest evolution design short of Poliwrath in the whole series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 13:45:02 No.37442956 Report

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Every gen has good Pokemon and the mostly consistent quality of monster designs is the *only* thing keeping this franchise afloat. The only real problem is that "Pokemon" are all lumped together as one group despite the changes in artstyle and design philosophy. Other franchises would make use of AUs if they were going to radically change the artstyle, but Pokemon's "gotta catch 'em all" motto pretty much prevents that from ever happening. At least the BW approach keeps the artstyle consistent for the main adventure.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 13:56:01 No.37442975 Report

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>>37442471

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 14:05:27 No.37443002 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 14:19:38 No.37443031 Report

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>>37442518
it has fully organic humanoid eyes, how the hell is that believable if its supposed to be autonomous?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 14:21:30 No.37443038 Report

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>>37442573
>I like furries and 40 legendaries per gen
Gen I has by far the best designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 14:22:25 No.37443042 Report

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>>37443038
if other gens are furshit gen 1 is scalebait

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 14:24:46 No.37443049 Report

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>>37442530
>It's a lot more convincing than shit like Zygarde Cell where they gave it a bulbous head and a big oval eye because they were too focused on making it a cute anime mascot instead of a believable monster design.
this is no different than giving everything in gen 1 dbz eyes because they wanted them to be edgy

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 15:41:01 No.37443289 Report

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>>37442530
But that's literally what planarian worms look like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 15:43:22 No.37443296 Report

Quoted By: >>37443838

>>37443289

Clearly they made it resemble one of those to give it an excuse to have the blobby proportions and round eyes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 15:45:17 No.37443302 Report

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I miss when Pokemon were actually in playable games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 15:49:29 No.37443317 Report

Quoted By: >>37443351

>>37442492
>Gen 1
4
>Gen 2
0
>Gen 3
0
>Gen 4
3
>Gen 5
6
>Gen 6
4
>Gen 7
2
>Gen 8
2
>Total
21/809

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 15:50:49 No.37443324 Report

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>>37442526
>>37442796
Have you considered the fact that modeling something with no shape / transparent gazeous form and render it with the cell shading style used in X/Y ~ onwards is highly complicated ? this sphere is a fps saver

>>37443038
I agree with you, gen4 was the absolute low point in the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 15:57:31 No.37443351 Report

Quoted By: >>37443365

>>37443317
>Gen 3 has no objectmons
>what are Nosepass. Baltoy. Claydol, Solrock, Lunatone, Castform, Shuppet, Banette, Chimecho

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:00:11 No.37443361 Report

Quoted By: >>37443367

>>37443042
>he doesn't understand what furshit means

Compare this beautiful animal to waifutrash braixen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:00:45 No.37443365 Report

Quoted By: >>37443376 >>37443409

>>37443351
>Nosepass
A rock, just like geodude, that's not exactly an item, it's a natural occurrence.
>Baltoy/Claydol
That's debatable, but I'll accept it.
>Solrock/Lunatone
Space rocks
>Castform
A cloud, not an object
>Shuppet/Banette
Only Banette is allowed a pass because it used to be a doll
>Chimecho
I guess is technically a bell, but it's really not.

Pretty much none of the Pokemon you just named are in any way objects like Magnemite, Klefi, Honedge, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:00:57 No.37443367 Report

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>>37443361
damn look at those lustful eyes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:01:35 No.37443368 Report

Quoted By: >>37443373

>>37442471
my main concern with this is that it's called "voltorb" and can't use electric attacks without TM.
also, who thought that it was a good idea to give it only physical moves with a crappy attack ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:02:47 No.37443373 Report

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>>37443368
I believe that's the point. Voltorb/Electrode aren't meant to exist. They're just magic items that somehow exist from a Pokeball experiment. They're just fucked up creatures really. They're electric, but they're not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:05:18 No.37443376 Report

Quoted By: >>37443421

>>37443365
Nosepass is based on Moai statues
Castform is based on the Teru Teru Bozu,a kind of doll related to weather
Chimecho is based on Japanese wind chimes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:06:26 No.37443382 Report

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>>37443289
Looks like a map of an alolan route.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:14:23 No.37443409 Report

Quoted By: >>37443421

>>37443365
Easter Island statues are crafted objects, same as clay dolls, weather charms, hand puppets and wind chimes.
>but it's really not
Chimecho has zero design basis other than wind chimes, don't "nuh-uh" when you can't even elaborate.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:16:03 No.37443420 Report

Quoted By: >>37443431

shit, I never noticed this about Voltorb/Electrode
The eyes fuse together to form the mouth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:16:39 No.37443421 Report

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>>37443376
>>37443409
Not him, but I will say when it comes to Castform we probably shouldn't count him, because if we're getting to that point then I'm sure there is some random Japanese myth or superstition that somehow makes like Rhydon an object or some shit.

The rest are obviously objects, Castform, eh, I wouldn't personally count other than it's manmade, then we'd have to count Porygon, Ditto, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 16:17:46 No.37443431 Report

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>>37443420
I think its more that he grows a mouth, and the top part becomes white, so all you're left with is the black pupils, while the bottom becomes red and grows a mouth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jan 2019 18:02:41 No.37443838 Report

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>>37442518
>They didn't just choose to make it a round shape with eyes for no reason.
The problem here are the eyes which aren't "realistic" as you want to say. Those aren't robotic eyes or something that is concrete and coherent with the design.
>>37442530
A blob shouldn't have that face, it is too simple, with zygarde you got a better example of what a blob should look like.
>>37443296
Imagine backpedaling so hard

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