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Anonymous Tue 05 Feb 2019 23:56:31 No.37513457 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37513524 >>37513658 >>37514408

These are now two separate split evos of Darumaka. Does Zenmanitan destroy the meta? What would you give regular Darm for a HA?

I think Zen Mode got dicked and is a really cool idea with terrible execution.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 00:12:03 No.37513524 Report

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>>37513457
RUBL at best

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 00:16:42 No.37513551 Report

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zen - give it sheer force like reg darmanitan and TR. would hit like a truck
regular darm's HA - reckless or rock head

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 00:29:41 No.37513658 Report

Quoted By: >>37513673 >>37513749

>>37513457
Honestly to fix it you just need to have Darmanitan start in zen then wake up when it's health falls.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 00:32:31 No.37513673 Report

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>>37513658
This would work. Or give it access to Recover or Morning Sun.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 00:49:00 No.37513749 Report

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>>37513658
>>37513673
Not really. I feel like any ability relying on losing health is a lost cause.

Think about how difficult it would be to manipulate his health before being able to attack with physical or special according to who you’re fighting; then all that work is out the window if your opponent simply decides to switch.

And if your change were implemented, all it takes is Sandstorm to lock you out of Zen.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 02:54:17 No.37514349 Report

Quoted By: >>37515412

They should make it's change attack based at least like Aegislash.
They can't just leave best monkey like this.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 03:08:18 No.37514408 Report

Quoted By: >>37515412

>>37513457
Base Darm should retain Sheer Force because it defines itself by being a battering ram.
Zen Darm should get Magic Guard so it can use those resistances combined with u-turn.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 09:39:06 No.37515412 Report

Quoted By: >>37515550

>>37514349
>>37514408
Thank you, Darmbros.

I agree on both counts, that best monkey is being left out to dry, and that base Darm is best left as is.

Magic Guard would be an interesting way to bring Zenmanitan into the spotlight. I really think GF is gonna have to do something with him at some point. How long do we have to wait before Gen 5 mons get some sort of retroactive love?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Feb 2019 10:33:22 No.37515550 Report

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>How long do we have to wait before Gen 5 mons get some sort of retroactive love?
Considering the current trend of pretending everything past Kanto doesn't exist, probably like another 7 years before they begin to realize people actually liked Unova.

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