>>38490116>Also notice how Fire was never seen in until Gen 2Gen 1 had water types out the wazoo along with Golem and Rhydon to wall Fire types forever, and if a physical attacker could learn EQ, it WILL run it. Fire types ate shit in Gen 1 along with Flying, Fighting, and Poison types because they all got walled off and had weaknesses to moves that were omnipresent (EQ, Blizzard, Psychic).
>despite the Gen 1 Meta being dominated by normal types, Fighting was also never usedThere were like 5 fighting moves that didn't do pre-set damage and half of them were exclusive to Hitmonlee. Submission had only 80 BP and 80% accuracy on top of recoil and none of the Pokemon that would want to slap it on could cheese crit rolls.
>Snorlax Submission vs. Tauros: 127-150 (35.9 - 42.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKOSnorlax Earthquake vs. Chansey: 210-247 (29.8 - 35.1%) -- 18.1% chance to 3HKO
Unless you REALLY want the 3HKO on Tauros, it's better to run EQ, but you're honestly better off just sacking Snorlax and using self-destruct for a OHKO.
>Rhydon Submission vs. Tauros: 144-170 (40.7 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO>Rhydon Submission vs. Chansey: 379-446 (53.9 - 63.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKOEQ has the same ranges.
Hitmonlee is not a good check to normals, even with having 120 base attack and HJK (which was only 85BP which made it the strongest fighting type move in gen 1), which is not enough to OHKO Chansey, Snorlax, or Tauros without a crit, and only Chansey is ever in damage range for Body Slam to KO the next turn. Even after a meditate, Tauros is only a range and Snorlax is still 2HKO.
