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Pokemon ORAS

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:53:40 No.40944334 View View Reply Original Report

Why do people not like ORAS? Is it because any change is bad even if it's better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:54:26 No.40944363 Report

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>>40944334
is she autistic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:55:45 No.40944415 Report

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>>40944334
too much water

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:56:36 No.40944450 Report

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>>40944334
I like ORAS, I think people were mainly pissed about Masuda's retarded comments regarding cutting the Battle Frontier. But ORAS was still amazing and dexnav and post-game breeding area was really nice. And the entire main story line was improved from the originals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:56:46 No.40944452 Report

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>>40944334
yuffie doesnt belong in a pokemon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:56:54 No.40944461 Report

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>>40944334
Not enough trumpets

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:57:37 No.40944484 Report

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>>40944334
I played oras and usum back to back and had infinitely more fun with oras and it’s features

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:57:54 No.40944496 Report

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>>40944334
It's literally the worst game in the series.

>rehash
>dozens of hours worth of post-game cut
>most casualized poorly balanced game in the series
>nothing to fucking do with the pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 21:59:01 No.40944526 Report

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>>40944334
Because it's based on the worst generation ever, and it's the reason why we didn't get Pokémon Z.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:02:24 No.40944621 Report

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>>40944334
Had some issues but objectively better than every game after it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:02:45 No.40944639 Report

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>>40944334
>load zones between route
>no substantial emerald content, unlike HGSS
>more healing and handholding, ala may escorting you to mauville from meteor falls
>dude heres your free uber tier pokemon, with its busted choice specs preferred item

Its mostly because of the gen 2 remake comparison though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:02:51 No.40944643 Report

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>>40944334
>doesn't use the improved emerald gym leader teams (the e4 and champion is better in oras, though)
>gimps or outright removes a lot of dungeons and puzzle areas
>more handholdy than RSE for multiple reasons
>cut post-game content

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:03:19 No.40944654 Report

Quoted By: >>40945092

>>40944334
Not enough change

I still can't believe they had the balls to keep it so tile based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:04:24 No.40944702 Report

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>>40944496
>Rehash
Didn't stop HGSS from being beloved
>dozens of hours worth of post-game cut
Frontier was hardly exciting to begin with.
>most casualized poorly balanced game in the series
When shit like Stealth Rock exists balance will never be a thing again, cope.
>nothing to fucking do with the pokemon
Mainline games have always had that problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:06:01 No.40944763 Report

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>>40944496
>>dozens of hours worth of post-game cut
tbf with megas around getting all the symbols would take like 4 hours at most

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:13:27 No.40944997 Report

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>>40944334
>powercrept Puesdos into being stronger than box legendaries
>powercrept weakmons into practically being legendaries themself
>ruined the SOUL of climbing up a crumbling sky pillar
>removed safari zone extension
>less double battles
>removed roaming Pokemon
>removed new Mauville
>casualized mirage island
>removed Artisan cave
>ruined mixed attackers via s/split
>casualized gameplay with unlimited tms
>gutted game corner
>gutted battle tents
>cringy megas
>absolutely soulless legendary hunt
>muh multiverse
>removed berry blending
>gutted dungeons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:13:42 No.40945006 Report

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My two big issues with it are how they fucked granite cave and everything is slow as shit due to being on the 6th gen engine.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:14:56 No.40945047 Report

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>>40944702
>Frontier was hardly exciting to begin with

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:15:29 No.40945067 Report

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>>40944334
yes any change is bad, even if it's better :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:16:11 No.40945092 Report

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>>40944654
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:38:45 No.40945770 Report

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>>40945067
Wait, you can't rematch them in ORAS, for real? Fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:44:25 No.40945934 Report

Quoted By: >>40946090

>>40944334
muh battle frontier

What is there to like about ORAS? Soaring and dexnav were really the only good additions, but they do not come close to the battle frontier

The graphics are worse
The bigger pokedex is meaningless according to the shills that defend sword shield
Megas are also worthless according to the shills that defend their removal in sword shield
If you want the PS split, then there are GBA romhacks that do that
More cutscenes
No ambition, unlike HGSS
The post game episode was fucking shit
Had the nerve to remove features such as the game corner (HGSS had the slot machines intact in the jap version while other versions received the voltorb flip) and safari zone

I'll keep playing emerald

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:50:34 No.40946090 Report

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>>40945934
Even if they put minimal effort into oras it still comes with 3 gens worth of updates. Physical special split, unlimited tms, pss/amie/super training, improved moveset(aggron actually learns rock moves now for example, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:53:13 No.40946153 Report

Quoted By: >>40946282

ORAS is mediocre at best, but still better than the original games.

The problem is that some people don't understand that they are Ruby and Sapphire remakes, not Emerald 's

>>40944334

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:57:50 No.40946282 Report

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>>40946090
Unlimited tms and improved movesets were also already available in romhacks
PSS, amie and super training were literally just copy pasted from XY. Amie and super training had already bored me in XY, so I didn't give a shit about it on ORAS
Once the 3DS servers die, ORAS will lose PSS and be even worse compared to emerald

The games are simply too fucking lazy for me to give a shit

>>40946153
>The problem is that some people don't understand that they are Ruby and Sapphire remakes, not Emerald 's
And HGSS were gold/silver remakes that also added crystal's content

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:58:45 No.40946315 Report

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>>40944450
>post-game breeding area was really nice
THIS
>Daycare and IV checker in one spot
>Infinate loop
>Horde battles
>Blissey bases
ORAS was literally the best we ever had fir breeding, training and leveling up.

I remember breeding, EV training and leveling up a full team to lv50 in just 1-2 hours

i want horde battles to come back so bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 22:59:51 No.40946352 Report

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>>40944334
>Is it because any change is bad even if it's better?

The issue is that most changes WERE bad. ORAS managed to be inferior to RS, a game released over a decade before, and even worse than Emerald, a remake of RS also released a decade before

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:00:14 No.40946371 Report

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>>40944334
>Is it because any change is bad even if it's better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:00:53 No.40946389 Report

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>>40944702
>When shit like Stealth Rock exists balance will never be a thing again, cope.
he meant in the campaign retard, learn how to fucking read

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:02:13 No.40946441 Report

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>>40944334
>>40946371
>Is it because any change is bad even if it's better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:02:45 No.40946457 Report

Quoted By: >>40946703

>>40946282
That’s still a shit tier argument because you’re not comparing that aspect to the original game but rather to a hack. You’re saying b isn’t better than a because c is better than b. B is better than a in certain aspects and that doesn’t change because c is better than b.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:04:05 No.40946503 Report

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I don't even like Gen 3 in the first place, why would I like a worse version of it with less content?

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:04:24 No.40946514 Report

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Before
>Groudon gets utterly shit on by Kyogre
>Its ability is useless because shit special stat
>Its ability make solar beam users kek

After
>water immunity baby!
>Fire stab

Groudon was the only mega that didn't feel like an unnecessary gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:04:31 No.40946516 Report

Quoted By: >>40947124

>>40944334
Visually soulless compared to the original

no battle frontier was criminal.

other than that it was OK.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:05:56 No.40946566 Report

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>>40944334
>>40946441
>Is it because any change is bad even if it's better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:06:30 No.40946589 Report

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>>40946389
Nothing in that fragment suggests what you are implying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:08:36 No.40946655 Report

Quoted By: >>40946744 >>40946835 >>40946879 >>40947075

>>40944334
Because morons dont realize this is Ruby/Sapphire remakes... not Emerald remakes.
They set their expectations too high for the wrong remakes.

However, I loved ORAS. ive played many times over. I would have enjoyed to see an Emerald remake to finish up Hoenn but GameFreak wanted Gen 7 so bad they missed an opportunity to address issues the pokemon community cried about.

If Theta Emerald was ever a thing, It would have made Gen 6 more appealing as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:09:09 No.40946672 Report

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>all these bullshit explanations

The problem with ORAS is the difficulty. Trainers are extremely underleveled or have very few pokemon. Didn't try a difficulty hack yet, but I think one would improve the games a lot.

Then there's annoying stuff like the forced latios (being almost unable to soft-reset for an acceptable nature) and the end of delta episode. Rayquaza is already a pain in the ass to get a good nature not to mention deoxys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:10:10 No.40946700 Report

Quoted By: >>40949048

>>40944643
Which areas were removed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:10:13 No.40946703 Report

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>>40946457
Well, then gamefreak should more than the fucking bare minimum. Add shit to the games that romhackers can't replicate. It's ok to have those change in an official game, but I'm not buying a remake of a game that literally only adds those changes + some new worthless extras, specially when there were already free romhacks that did the same shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:10:34 No.40946714 Report

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>>40944334
>any change is bad even if it's better?
But it wasn't better, an entire extra arc based around an unlikable character is in no way better than the battle frontier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:10:41 No.40946718 Report

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>>40944334
I just think the postgame removals ruined it. They're better than RS but not Emerald. The dexnav was a fucking amazing addition though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:11:28 No.40946744 Report

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>>40946655
maybe they should have done what HGSS did and include improvements made in the third version instead of remaking the lesser games (ruby and sapphire) and then making them even worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:15:16 No.40946835 Report

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>>40946655
The distinction shouldn't matter. FRLG and HGSS added a lot. ORAS removed and added some. And then Masuda went and embarrassed himself with
>*raughs*, well kids use their smartphones more nowadays so we don't need to make as much content

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:16:00 No.40946862 Report

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>>40944334
Battle frontier
The worst competitive format to ever exist

Didn't help that I never liked gen 3 to begin with

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:16:30 No.40946879 Report

Quoted By: >>40948425

>>40946655
>what is HGSS
Fuck off drone, unironically the worst fucking take I've seen on this board in recent memory even with all the SwSh shit going around. There's literally zero point in remaking a 2 version pokemon game almost to the letter when a superior 3rd version exists. HGSS devs knew this which is why it has so many elements from Crystal worked in, so why couldn't ORAS do the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:19:59 No.40947008 Report

Quoted By: >>40947097 >>40949623

>>40944334
Emerald put a standard on Gen 3. HGSS put a standard on remakes. So people had hopes that Gamefreak would make something equal to that. They made changes that simplified a lot of things for the worse.
Still, ORAS was the only game I ever completed the National Dex. Turns out it was the last game to have that. Neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:21:49 No.40947075 Report

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>>40946655
>I wish Gamefreak ripped everyone off by making a third definitive version of the remakn instead of just making OR/AS the definitive versions
jesus

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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:22:41 No.40947097 Report

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>>40947008
>Turns out it was the last game to have that. Neat.
oh god

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:23:36 No.40947124 Report

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>>40946516
>Visually soulless compared to the original
lmao the original gen 3 graphics of R/S are easily the worse of the mainline games outside R/G

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:27:31 No.40947271 Report

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Is ALL CHANGE GOOD the new catch all onion boy argument for everything these days? I'm seeing this phrase a lot more lately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:32:26 No.40947445 Report

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>>40944334
I don't know why exactly, but I played half through it and got really bored. Maybe because I've played emerald so many times, it just didn't do anything for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:32:28 No.40947446 Report

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>>40946514
I was hype for that. I was also looking forward to Palkia getting a new form that doesn't just get one shot by Dialga. But I can't believe Pokemon is fucking dead! Maybe we should merge with /mlp/ to stay afloat since their show ended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 2019 23:47:54 No.40947935 Report

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>>40944461
I unironically wished they'd had a retro soundtrack keyitem. I missed the trumpets quite a bit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 00:02:53 No.40948425 Report

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>>40946879
Gamefreak has actually convinced people that paying to beta test for the final version of a product is just something to be expected. People like that would probably be happy if they released "Delta Emerald" as another game. We're the morons though. Our expectations are too high. Prease undastand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 00:22:25 No.40949048 Report

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>>40946700
Just jumping into this thread but all I remember being cut was the Battle Frontier, maybe there was more though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 00:43:33 No.40949623 Report

Quoted By: >>40950307

>>40947008
Emerald and ORAS are garbage and you talk like those games are any good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:04:13 No.40950160 Report

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>>40944334
>Is it because any change is bad even if it's better?
their decision of bringing XY features to ORAS has turned the game dificulty way too easy, and the way of capturing high level pokémon via dexnav just added fuel to the fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:09:17 No.40950307 Report

Quoted By: >>40950367

>>40949623
All pokemon games are garbage. Some garbage is more fun to play than others

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:11:54 No.40950367 Report

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>>40950307
>Some garbage is more fun to play than others
And that isn't RSE/ORAS.

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