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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:24:25 No.42108828 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42108842 >>42109293 >>42109479 >>42110016 >>42114156 >>42117432 >>42117468

Help me bros. I don't know what to do with him.

Stealth rock is good but not good enough in 3v3s. There aren't enough people running hazards to warrant rapid spin either. Currently I'm going for a cosmic power/stored power set but it's not anywhere near useful enough to do anything to Smogon Approved Pokemon like Gyarados, Excadrill, Mimikyu etc (IE faggot Pokemon used by competitive fags that ruin the fun for everyone else)

What do you guys think? My Claydol has a -attack +speed nature with 252 in hp/speed and 4 in sp. Def

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:26:57 No.42108842 Report

Quoted By: >>42108939

>>42108828
>(IE faggot Pokemon used by competitive fags that ruin the fun for everyone else)
>playing competitive
>complaining about competition
dude come on

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:30:07 No.42108857 Report

Quoted By: >>42108939

Claydol unfortunately doesnt do anything good, especially in 3v3. He's already a pretty bad spinner with a typing that brings more issues than resistances, and he can't beat spinblockers. If you're going for a Cosmic Power/Stored Power set, which is gimmicky to begin with, you're better off using something that has recovery, like Sigilyph or Xatu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:39:57 No.42108939 Report

Quoted By: >>42108970 >>42109098 >>42109354

>>42108857

I also have both Sigilyph and Xatu. That's all my psychic Pokemon though. Xatu is the only one with a real clear use out of the three thanks to Magic Bounce.

>>42108842

I wish there was a comfortable space between little Timmy playing with his half evolved shitmons and he doesn't even know what an Ev/IV is and competitivefags that only use the same 15 or so Pokemon that are so obviously better than the others so that I could actually play someone on the same footing as me but, that's not 99% of what Pokemon is unless I happen to be playing with a friend that I actually know. Online you're always at a disadvantage if you want to use Pokemon you "like" and everyone knows it. So fuck you I will complain about it. Claydol is a third of the Pokemon Excadrill is. My Turtonator is a third of the Pokemon Dragapult is. My Flareon is half the Pokemon your Eviolite Cursola is. It's neither your fault or mine, it's GameFreaks for having such a badly balanced game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:43:35 No.42108970 Report

Quoted By: >>42109032

>>42108939
it is gamefreak's fault for an eternity of power creep but you were complaining about the actual players which is just dumb to me
anyway that's what lower smogon tiers are for

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:51:04 No.42109032 Report

Quoted By: >>42109062

>>42108970

I'd like to play on cart for a change, or at least try to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:55:01 No.42109062 Report

Quoted By: >>42109071

>>42109032
try support doubles claydol. you'll have to build around something stronger but it can probably work

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:55:50 No.42109071 Report

Quoted By: >>42109106

>>42109062

>doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:57:02 No.42109083 Report

Quoted By: >>42109105

I forget the spread but I used assault vest mixed attacker Claydol with Smack Down, Earth Power, Ancient Power and Drill Run in gen 7 battle spot with okay results

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:59:25 No.42109098 Report

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>>42108939
it's a comfortable space available only to people who aren't shitters
it's not that hard to reach 1600+ elo on showdown even with mememons, and once it get too tryhard-y just make a new nick and start again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 13:59:53 No.42109105 Report

Quoted By: >>42109134 >>42109158

>>42109083

Oh yeah! I never considered an Assault Vest. I was always thinking about either Cosmic Power or Stealth Rock. That could be something to try.

Rapid Spin (the speed boost makes it worth)
Stone Edge
Earth Power
Psychic

? I think he could also learn Grass Knot but, I don't think that does anything to anyone relevant right now. There's also Ice Beam, is ice beam better than Stone Edge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:00:01 No.42109106 Report

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>>42109071
Doubles is the only format where support mons like Claydol can do shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:03:43 No.42109121 Report

Quoted By: >>42109151

DOUBLE
SCREEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:05:21 No.42109134 Report

Quoted By: >>42109151

>>42109105
No, you should have something with a higher crit ratio on this set in case you need to break defenses or just do more damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:07:30 No.42109151 Report

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>>42109134

I was looking for any excuse to use Drill Run because I want my Claydol to be a big beyblade with Rapid Spin and drill run so that works for me.

>>42109121

Maybe I can drop the assault vest and try

Rapid Spin, Drill Run, Light Screen, Reflect? It would allow me to have Sp. Atk as a dump stat at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:08:18 No.42109158 Report

Quoted By: >>42109178

>>42109105
>70bst
>want to play it as an offensive mon
you're not struggling because of the pokemons but because of the below average IQ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:11:00 No.42109178 Report

Quoted By: >>42109193

>>42109158

The idea is not to be an offensive powerhouse. The idea is to be a kind of beefy mon thanks to its defenses that is still able to, you know, actually fight shit. The problem is GF gave it 60 base hp as a hilarious joke and the type chart means three out of four times whatever you're fighting has a super effective move against it. I'm not trying to sweep with Claydol, I'm just trying to fight with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:13:19 No.42109193 Report

Quoted By: >>42109204

>>42109178
perhaps try playing around sets like Cosmic Power+Body Press+Stored Power if you want to fight so much with it, but Claydol is clearly more of a support mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:14:47 No.42109204 Report

Quoted By: >>42109215

>>42109193

Well, going a dual screen attacking set is half support, which is my current best plan anyways. Do you have any other support suggestions that are applicable in 3v3 singles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:17:00 No.42109215 Report

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>>42109204
3v3 is a fast-paced format more suited for hyper offense or big walls, not for supports
dual screens might be your best bet but don't expect big perfomances in this format
Claydol would perform better in other tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:27:33 No.42109293 Report

Quoted By: >>42109303

>>42108828
Rapid spin
Cosmic power
Stored power
Rest

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:29:10 No.42109303 Report

Quoted By: >>42109519

>>42109293

GUYS what if I give him a Normal Gem and teach him Power Trick with Explosion. Would that make him a hilarious anti-sweeper?

>>42109293

It's actually what I was using before I made this thread. It's terrible. I was having more success using Mud-Slap (Yes I tried it, won a game off of it lel)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:37:59 No.42109354 Report

Quoted By: >>42109519

>>42108939
U prolly have better luck winning with ur favorites in doubles if you have enough brain to come up with strats which u prolly dont have, anyway I will see what I can do in a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 14:41:41 No.42109379 Report

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Dual Screener with a boom? I'm not sure how viable it is but basicaly you want to set up and then go down with a boom or not to allow something that appreciate screen support go wild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 15:01:05 No.42109479 Report

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>>42108828
Try:
-Rapid Spin
-Cosmic Power
-Stored Power
-Body Press
Item is up to you. Leftovers or a berry recommended for some sort of recovery for setting up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 15:05:50 No.42109519 Report

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>>42109354
nvm this, Claydol has a lot of trick it can do but there are other mons that can do those tricks better in doubles. Maybe you can do weakness policy + Cosmic Power setup team where u support Claydol with a lot of mons and it can be alright.

>>42109303
Instead I came up with this pic related set for 3v3 singles, you start of with Grimmsnarl and setup dual screens, then you go for the setup with Claydol and if specific Pokemon gives you a lot trouble, say 5 out of 10 games, then you can adjust, say Mimikyu gives your Claydol trouble, maybe you can slap a ghost resist berry on it or have a team mate that is good against Mimikyu (say scarf Excadrill), or if the Stored Power is not doing enough dmg after 3 Cosmic Powers, you could try Calm Mind + Iron Defense and drop Rest and add Leftovers etc. there are certainly a lot of options for this mon and I think you can find a set that can work if the rest of the team is supporting it well enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 16:03:45 No.42110016 Report

Quoted By: >>42110989

>>42108828
Honestly my friend I use Claydol a lot because I'm a mono-Ground user and it's probably the best support Mon the type has. It's strength is in setting up your team. In Gen 7 I use it on Doubles to set up Trick Room and Sunny Day for Mega Camerupt.

I don't have Gen 8 but I've played with it on Showdown and what you want is a Teleport set. The one I use is:
-Stealth Rock
-Rapid Spin
-Trick Room
-Teleport

Teleport lets you bring in your sweeper completely safely. You might not want to run Rocks or Rapid Spin in 3v3 but you can bring other setup alongside Trick Room. You can bring weather, wonder room, Power Split or Mud-Slap to provoke a switch on your Teleport, not to mention screens. If you're weary of Taunt, carry Mental Herb and Explosion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 17:20:08 No.42110989 Report

Quoted By: >>42111275

>>42110016

Does Teleport work like U-Turn or Volt Switch in 1v1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 17:38:19 No.42111275 Report

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>>42110989
>>42110989
Yes, but it's a status move and it's deprioritized. So you'll take whatever attack your opponent chooses before switching out.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 19:22:40 No.42112873 Report

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Claydol is based. It would be great if it someday got recovery...

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 20:48:59 No.42114156 Report

Quoted By: >>42116164

>>42108828
needs more HP

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 23:17:38 No.42116164 Report

Quoted By: >>42117410

>>42114156
kek
Seriously though... Venus of Willendorf regional form when?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Dec 2019 00:47:03 No.42117410 Report

Quoted By:

>>42116164
What type would it be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Dec 2019 00:48:42 No.42117432 Report

Quoted By:

>>42108828
In doubles:

>Imprison
>Trick Room
>Ally Switch
>Earth Power

Your choice of item, maybe Soft Sand

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Dec 2019 00:51:26 No.42117468 Report

Quoted By:

>>42108828
3v3 is a shit format and you will NEVER do well with claydol in it. Sorry. It's too hyper offense sweeping

As some others have said you could run him in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Dec 2019 01:25:02 No.42117976 Report

Quoted By: >>42118752

>17 years later
>Still doesn't have access to Recover
Why does Gamefreak hate him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Dec 2019 02:10:15 No.42118752 Report

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>>42117976
I don't think they hate him. Lots of stuff doesn't get Recover...

Would be cool if it got more abilities though.

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