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ITT: How do we fix her (and rillaboom)?

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 04:54:17 No.42136788 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42136842 >>42136853 >>42136943 >>42139971 >>42140161 >>42143261 >>42143396

It's pretty clear cinderace is this gen's shillmon, but let's try to make the other two starters just as competent.
I'll start
Inteleon:
>HP: 70
>Atk: 80
>Def: 50
>SpA: 145
>SpD: 50
>Spe: 135
BST: 530 (Same as original)
>Sig move: Tactical Shot
>60 BP, Always crits (Water type frost breath)
>HA is the same, works well with tactical shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 04:55:16 No.42136801 Report

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lol just give it huge power
fixed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 04:56:01 No.42136817 Report

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>her

87.5% male.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 04:58:00 No.42136842 Report

Quoted By: >>42136861 >>42136869 >>42137122

>>42136788
>60 BP
Are you legit retarded? You want me to tickle my enemies to death with this weak ass shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 04:58:36 No.42136853 Report

Quoted By: >>42136896 >>42137144

>>42136788
Rillaboom will be fine once its HA releases
Inteleon just needs a better signature move and ability
beef up snipe shot to 100 BP and make it ignore all abilities (like water absorb) in addition to ignoring follow me and having a high crit rate, and either give it a better HA like adaptability (protean would be wasted on its movepool) or make sniper give a less shitty damage boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 04:59:01 No.42136861 Report

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>>42136842
are you legit retarded? Do you know what sniper does? Did you know that crit moves have a higher power?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 04:59:37 No.42136869 Report

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>>42136842
60BP that always crits is effectively a 90BP move that ignores stat changes, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 04:59:44 No.42136870 Report

Quoted By: >>42136895 >>42136922 >>42136967

>its an "let's fix a pokemon by minmaxing it to hell and back" episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:01:52 No.42136895 Report

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>>42136870
Inteleon was minmaxed up the ass to begin with anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:01:55 No.42136896 Report

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>>42136853
Actually now that I think about it more, you can probably scrap everything I said about inteleon. Just give it nasty plot and focus blast and it's saved.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:03:44 No.42136922 Report

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>>42136870
>minmaxing bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:04:55 No.42136941 Report

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>>42136861
You made it weaker than Snipe Shot is with a critical hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:05:00 No.42136943 Report

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>>42136788
Rillaboom don't need anything when it got fucking Grassy Surge for hidden ability. It will be OU along with Libero Cinderace, so it's fine. Shame about Inteleon, it will be stay in UU hell for a long time.
If I have to fix Inteleon, give it Nasty Plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:05:02 No.42136945 Report

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>>42136896
Couple it with a sniper-themed compoundeyes HA for an accuracy boost and I'm on board.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:06:23 No.42136964 Report

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>>42136941
>Sniper gives 2.25x boost instead of 1.5x
>60*2.25 =135

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:06:45 No.42136967 Report

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>>42136870
slow
frail
mixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:15:51 No.42137065 Report

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>>42136945
>hydro pump
>blizzard
>focus blast
>nasty plot
you might be onto something here, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:20:26 No.42137122 Report

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>>42136941
>>42136842
>These are the people who give moveset advice and competitive theory-craft on /vp/

Really activates the ol' almonds, doesn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:21:58 No.42137144 Report

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>>42136853
Isn't sniper 220% damage now? That looks good to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:24:16 No.42137168 Report

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>>42137144
That's more of a "sniper never should've been that shit in the first place" buff than an inteleon buff.
Seriously, of all the abilities that give a damage boost to moves, the one that doesn't do anything unless the move crits is the weakest. Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:25:11 No.42137180 Report

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>>42136941
This. A critical Snipe Shot (80 BP) is 80 x 2.25 = 180

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:27:30 No.42137204 Report

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>>42137180
Wouldn't it be 120 since Snipe Shot gets STAB? Thus Snipe Shot would be 270 on a crit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:30:13 No.42137234 Report

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>>42137180
100% likely 135 BP move > 12.5% likely 180 BP move

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:30:27 No.42137235 Report

Quoted By: >>42137304

>>42136967
I don't get it anon, is 120 speed too slow for you now? Does it have to be 150+ speed with a 80+ BP STAB priority move to satisfy your lust?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:37:24 No.42137304 Report

Quoted By: >>42137330

>>42137235
at 150 speed inteleon would be faster than scarf dracovish, as well as every other pokemon in OU. 120 speed is good, but not the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 05:39:11 No.42137330 Report

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>>42137304
I have never died to a Dragapult though. Inteleon mostly kills in one hit all threats that outspeed him. His problem is to shit that will survive him and then hit hard back, and many of them are slower than him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 10:58:11 No.42139971 Report

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>>42136788
>her
inteleon is a he and also sorry to dissapoint to any fat whale-like amerimutt woman who fantisize about inteleon but he is 100% homosexual and finds all of you disgusting as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 11:30:51 No.42140161 Report

Quoted By: >>42140531 >>42143506

>>42136788
Rillaboom needs a fix the most.
Inteleon has a 120+BP move that ignores redirection and sp.def increase on the opponent besides being the most minmaxed starter ever.
Rillaboom meanwhile:
>slow
>frail
>only sligthly better Bulldoze as signature
>grassy being worst terrain
>no synergy whatsoever

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 12:31:05 No.42140531 Report

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>>42140161

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 17:20:07 No.42143261 Report

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>>42136788
Moves
>Grass Knot
>Nasty Plot
>Aura Sphere
>Extrasensory
>Mirror Coat
>Endeavor
>Sludge Bomb
>Calm Mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 17:26:36 No.42143396 Report

Quoted By: >>42143476

>>42136788
How about the inverse
>Cinderace
Hp:70
Atk:105
Def:70
Sp.atk:95
Sp.def:70
Spe:110
New ability:Quick feet
Court change is now a TM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 17:32:10 No.42143476 Report

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>>42143396
>Court change is now a TM
I feel like there's not enough pokemon that feel like they should get it, but then again they made pollen puff a TM so who knows.
Still upset passimian didn't get court change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 17:34:07 No.42143506 Report

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>>42140161
>grassy being worst terrain
It's not Misty Terrain, so no.

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