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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 14:20:25 No.42141408 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42142145 >>42142236 >>42142341

>zacian is megafug levels of busted
>zamazenta's garbage movepool forces it to be a crappy close combat hit and run machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 14:22:52 No.42141432 Report

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>crappy
Still better than 99% of other pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:07:45 No.42141860 Report

Quoted By: >>42141882

If Zamazenta gets somehow in the future Sword Dance, Bulk Up, Counter, King's Shield, Toxic, Knock Off, Moonlight, Stealt Rock, Taunt, Power Trip or i dont'know what else, he will be very broken. First of all the stats isn't garbage, has decent Attack, good defenses and Speed, the ability in other hand isn't the best, is 50-50, could be better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:10:28 No.42141882 Report

Quoted By: >>42141934 >>42141952

>>42141860
>Swords Dance

It'll never get this because it is the shield Pokemon. It's one of those flavour things that makes perfect sense and is great attention to detail, but really shit in practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:12:33 No.42141907 Report

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>shieldcucks still crying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:14:28 No.42141934 Report

Quoted By: >>42142112 >>42142184 >>42145481

>>42141882
Then give it Shields Dance which does the same thing with a different animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:16:28 No.42141952 Report

Quoted By: >>42142129

>>42141882
>shield Pokémon
>doesn't get King's Shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:33:12 No.42142107 Report

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All it FUCKING NEEDS is Body Press. Literally a move screaming to be used by Zamazenta. The only use it has right now is tanking a sacred sword or close combat from Zacian and giving it back with metal burst & bulk investment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:33:32 No.42142112 Report

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>>42141934
GENIUS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:35:28 No.42142129 Report

Quoted By: >>42142153

>>42141952
King's Shield was designed around Aegislash and the Stance Change ability, but otherwise yeah, it should get it if that isn't an issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:37:04 No.42142145 Report

Quoted By: >>42142242

>>42141408
How did they make Body Press, a move that runs off your defenses, a fighting-type move about bashing your opponent with your body and NOT give this thing it?? It’s perfect! It’s built for the attack!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:38:17 No.42142153 Report

Quoted By: >>42142840

>>42142129
It’s not an issue. If it’s on another Pokémon, it just works like protect with an attack drop. Smeargle would use it on occasion in older gens and it worked fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:39:07 No.42142162 Report

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>No Body Press
>No King's Shield, other signature moves have been given to other mons eventually, and the move itself actually works when used by other mons with mimic and shit.
>No Bulk Up or any actually good set up
>No non-Rest recovery
>Strongest Fighting stab makes it LOSE its entire point of being defensive
>No utility outside of screens which it can't even use with Light Clay when Crowned
>Crowned arguably worse than regular.
Damn GameFreak hates this little brother.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:42:16 No.42142184 Report

Quoted By: >>42142346

>>42141934
>SHield dance that doubles BOTH deffences

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:46:57 No.42142236 Report

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>>42141408
>Add a new move in Gen 8 literally designed specifically for Zamazenta
>Make it a TR available to pretty much every pokemon in the region EXCEPT Zamazenta

Being Body Press is suffering.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:48:35 No.42142242 Report

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>>42142145

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:52:56 No.42142267 Report

Quoted By: >>42142314

Fighting got fucked over this time round.

>only dual type is Zamazenta's crowned form which isn't even that unique a typing
>the rest are really slow or do not do enough to differentiate themselves from the other pure Fighting types

At least Kommo-o got Clangerous Soul, Aura Sphere, and Body Press, plus it can use the new Throat Spray item effectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:56:47 No.42142314 Report

Quoted By: >>42142326

>>42142267
>which isn't even that unique a typing
only lucario and valorous goat got it before to be fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:57:42 No.42142326 Report

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>>42142314
I just see a typing becomes less unique when it exists three times. Except for perhaps Dragon/Grass since one was an Alolan and another a Mega.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:59:28 No.42142341 Report

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>>42141408
>Learns moonlight
>Learns body prese
>Learns roar
Fixed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 15:59:56 No.42142346 Report

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>>42142184
LGI, fuck it. Make cover legendaries bonkers broken shit that are fun as hell to use. Make it +1 Atk, +2 Def if you want to make it a little more balanced. I just want the cover legendaries to fuck shit up constantly. Dicking them over through a bad movepool a la Kyruem fucking sucks.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 16:07:56 No.42142409 Report

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Choice Band Close Combat spam, huh? Sounds based if you ask me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 16:45:51 No.42142840 Report

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>>42142153
Honestly it sounds pretty shit when not tied to Aegislash's ability and with the nerf. Wouldn't ever use it over Protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 19:59:04 No.42145364 Report

Quoted By: >>42145524 >>42145547

Does Body Press use base defense or your effective boosted defense? Someone told me it does the former ingame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 20:04:55 No.42145452 Report

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well sweepers are always better and more interesting than tanks, silly.
That's why speed deoxys is better than defense deoxys

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 20:06:38 No.42145481 Report

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>>42141934
based and cosmic power pilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 20:08:18 No.42145509 Report

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>make a fighting-type move that deals damage based on your defense stat
>create a fighting-type legendary that boosts defense when it switches in
>don't give this fighting-type legendary this fighting-type move that was introduced in the same generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 20:09:17 No.42145524 Report

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>>42145364
boosted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2019 20:10:57 No.42145547 Report

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>>42145364
I saw someone in a raid use Iron Defense + Body Press on Kommo-o which seemed pretty nifty to me

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