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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:02:33 No.45612468 View View Reply Original Report

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Behold! The comfiest Pokemon game of all time.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:12:46 No.45612524 Report

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>>45612468
op here, sorry I posted the wrong pic

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:15:26 No.45612533 Report

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>>45612468
Let's GO Eevee is better

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:15:54 No.45612534 Report

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>>45612524
OP here again! Posted the wrong pic twice!

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:16:39 No.45612537 Report

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>>45612468
It has all the building blocks for it, but unfortunately it's the third (technically fifth) time they've rehashed Kanto, so that kind of puts a damper on the feeling of "going on an adventure with your buddy" when your retreading the same ground.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:16:42 No.45612539 Report

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I'll just ask here: is it possible to get shiny partner Pikachu/Eevee in those games?

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:17:52 No.45612545 Report

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>>45612539
Starter Pikachu/Eevee and Pokeball Plus Mew are shiny locked. Everything else is fair game

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:20:04 No.45612560 Report

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Arguably true, especially if you like to Shiny Hunt, if it's your first entry, or if you are coming back after only having played Gen 1.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:27:31 No.45612605 Report

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>>45612468
weak bait junichi, try harder next time

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:29:45 No.45612618 Report

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>>45612468
most soulless game ever made, at least swsh was bad because rushed and unfinished, this shit was made on purpose instead.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 19:53:53 No.45612770 Report

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>>45612618
naw

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:20:30 No.45612950 Report

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>>45612468
quick cashgrab for nostalgiafags and the braindeads

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:20:38 No.45612952 Report

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Boomer here. This game would be perfect if not for the Go style catching and if the Safari Zone wasn't removed. Not being able to battle wild Pokemon is a huge turnoff for me.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:23:40 No.45612971 Report

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>>45612468
Sorry, but it doesn't get any comfier than this

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:24:22 No.45612975 Report

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music is shit

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:27:17 No.45612992 Report

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>>45612770
Have you ever tried to Sky Dash using Dodrio? Flying types get their own little animation if you're riding them, but this guy gets his own little touch.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:29:32 No.45613009 Report

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>>45612992
>>45612770
Not gonna lie, it looks pretty great. It's a shame about GO mechanics and dumbed down gameplay, this could've been a superior FRLG

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:31:54 No.45613027 Report

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>>45612952
Also a boomer. Safari Zone would be nice to get back, but the new capture system is pretty much one of the more enjoyable aspects of the experience to me. Makes the caching an active part of things and does so by replacing the most tedious part of RPGs, so there were no real downsides for my enjoyment on that front.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:36:23 No.45613053 Report

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>>45612468
That's not pokemon go in the Winter

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:39:24 No.45613073 Report

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>>45612605
is this real?

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:42:33 No.45613100 Report

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>>45613053
pretty sad how a phone game does seasons better than the past 3 gens

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:42:53 No.45613103 Report

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>>45612468
The game is so easy even 5 year olds got bored of it. I can't see how any adult could even enjoy it.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:44:56 No.45613112 Report

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>>45612468
>>45612524
>>45612534
Literally all wrong, it's these or the originals. Not even my favorite games, but you can't argue they're not the most comfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:45:50 No.45613120 Report

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>>45613112
>gen 4's shit ass engine
>no trainer customization
>no overworld encounters
>no riding pokemon
>comfy

lol nope

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:46:46 No.45613123 Report

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>>45613120
>gen 6's shitty animations and engine
>better than anything
LOL

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:47:29 No.45613127 Report

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>>45613123
>>gen 6's shitty animations

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:48:04 No.45613132 Report

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>>45613100
Only two games in the entire series have seasons though

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:48:38 No.45613136 Report

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>>45612468
It would have been great if it wasn’t for the lack of wild battles and the fucking awful catch mechanic, if it had an old school mode I’d have loved it

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:49:53 No.45613150 Report

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>>45613123
I don't see that he mentioned Gen 6 at all, so I'm not getting the relevance?

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:51:13 No.45613154 Report

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>>45613112
its the original, obviously

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:52:15 No.45613161 Report

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>>45613123
gen 7 retard

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:53:22 No.45613166 Report

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>>45613027
>why yes, i do love wagglan instead of wild battles
Wouldn't be all that bad in a dedicated spin-off instead of a main game demake. I love go, but their system works because it’s on a touch screen not in air.
>can’t use two hands for a controller in dock mode without playing coop
Absolutely asinine choice to make this mandatory.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:57:14 No.45613189 Report

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>>45612468
>The comfiest Pokemon game of all time.
Nope
>Was the first game to remove certain species of Pokemon
>Was the first game to remove certain moves
>Was the first game to have a forced EXP share
>Removed wild battles
>Removed abilities
>Removed held items
>Didn't even have a fucking battle tower
>Forced you to catch Pokemon of a certain type(s) to enter a gym
>Was yet ANOTHER Kanto remake and STILL doesn't have cross gen evos from gens 2 and 4
>Had NPCs can be battled in co-op mode, but their teams don't change to double battle teams so the players are facing off NPCs 2v1. We could've had another game like Colosseum or GoD where most battles are double battles
>Partner Pikachu and Eevee can't evolve

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 20:58:46 No.45613196 Report

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>>45613189
>it removed these things that don't matter at all so game bad!
zzz

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:00:28 No.45613204 Report

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>>45613127
GF manages to put more effort in a feeding minigame them in the actual in-game idle-animations.
Based retards

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:02:44 No.45613215 Report

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>>45613196
>Removing all the good things from the base game don't matter because you can have a pikachu.
zzz

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:04:19 No.45613226 Report

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>>45613215
it's weird that you say they're good things yet can't actually explain how they're good.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:05:14 No.45613232 Report

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>>45613196
>basic pokemon mechanics don't matter
Stick to pokemon pinball faggot shill and then kill yourself

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:05:54 No.45613242 Report

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>>45613226
You also didn't explain how any of those things don't matter, still waiting for your argument.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:10:29 No.45613284 Report

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>>45613232
If they were basic they would have been in gen 1.

>>45613242
>You also didn't explain how any of those things don't matter
Ok, let's say items and abilities are in the game.

I fight this guy in Rock Tunnel. I have Pikachu, Bulbasaur, and Charmander on my team.

If items and abilities are in the game, I start with Bulbasaur, use Razor Leaf three times, and beat him.
If items and abilities aren't in the game, I start with Bulbasaur, use Razor Leaf three times, and beat him.

How did having items and abilities improve the game here?

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:13:31 No.45613308 Report

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>>45613154
Brown is a comfy color

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:17:48 No.45613343 Report

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>>45613189
This was a deliberate remake/reimagining of Yellow, not FRLG, so most if not all of those things aren't actually removed. It's also only the first Gym that needs you to catch certain type of Pokemon to enter, so I don't see how that's a major hurdle for you, especially considering you'd have almost certainly caught a Grass or Water Pokemon by then. What little remains are your own frustrations, so alright.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:22:25 No.45613380 Report

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>>45613166
I'd argue the throw motion is more representative of the Pokemon experience and that that difference shifts the focus from accuracy more toward timing. The game was supposed to act as a bridge for the Go users that have had their interest in Pokemon piqued so they could get into the franchise, so it's not egregious to me that they did so in a Main line title, especially a remake. They also really wanted the throwing motion to be the principle aspect of the catch experience, so I don't think they were interested in giving leeway on docked mode controls for Gyro aim like in handheld. The only alternative would have been to let you use the Pro Controller for throws, which'd have been dumb.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:26:35 No.45613412 Report

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>>45613284
you would use razor leaf 6 times because sturdy

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:28:33 No.45613425 Report

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>>45613343
>This was a deliberate remake/reimagining of Yellow, not FRLG
Just because a feature doesn't exist in the original games doesn't mean it's okay for the remakes to exclude them.
>I don't see how that's a major hurdle for you
Abilities and held items are some of my favorite features in the series so of course I'm going to be pissed whenever they get removed. Battle facilities are my favorite place to spend time at when it comes to pokemon games. Say what you about ORAS not having battle frontier, but it at least had battle maison which is still a serviceable battle facility in it's own right and it's still leagues better than not having any post game battle facilities at all like LGPE did. The pokemon themselves and the moves they use in battle are the two most important things about the games so of course removing those things is bad. The fact that gen 2 and 4 cross gen evos aren't there feels like salt in the wound after FRLG doing that bullshit where Golbat can't evolve until you get the natdex in the post game

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:43:21 No.45613516 Report

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>>45613425
That second green text related particularly to the matter of having to catch Pokemon of a certain type to enter the first -and only the first- Gym.

You don't have to like that those things weren't INCLUDED, but they weren't removed. The intent was to use the simplest representation of the Core Pokemon experience to give kids and Go players an entry-point to get into the rest of the Main entries and to please nostalgic boomers that haven't played a Pokemon game since Gen 1. Your only real avenues for moderately more challenging battles where LG are concerned would be Wifi battles and Master Trainers. The Let's Go games are just clearly built with a lean that isn't to the more technical fan, and that isn't the biggest crime imaginable all told unless, perhaps, you were still waiting for a Home Console entry that'd accommodate you. Fortunately, that happened, though I don't know if you ended up liking it.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:45:34 No.45613544 Report

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>>45613073
Yes but is just for the first gym not all of them other gyms have different stuff like erika’s gym tells you you need a cute pokemon to enter btw you always have a cute pokemon since your partner is pikachu or eevee

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 21:49:43 No.45613582 Report

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>>45613516
>That second green text related particularly to the matter of having to catch Pokemon of a certain type to enter the first -and only the first- Gym
Oh, my apologies
>you were still waiting for a Home Console entry that'd accommodate you. Fortunately, that happened, though I don't know if you ended up liking it.
I'll be honest, I thought SWSH were decent. Not masterpieces, but decent. The games have their warranted criticisms, without a shadow of doubt, but I don't think they are the worst things ever. The games deserve criticisms for cutting moves and pokemon, however, they didn't cut AS many moves and pokemon as LGPE, so I'm not as upset with SWSH in that regard. If SWSH had only 150 pokemon or even less like LGPE did, I'd be a lot more upset with the dex cut. Also, SWSH didn't cut abilities, held items, and wild battles. If those things happened, I would shit on SWSH just as much as LGPE

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 00:15:47 No.45614574 Report

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Best games in a while

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 00:29:23 No.45614653 Report

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>>45613582
Honestly I'm more than positive we'll see the rest of the pokemon with whatever remakes we inevitably get this gen. The move culling will always make me mad.

On topic: I wouldn't say comfiest game, but it's top 3 easy.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 01:46:30 No.45615141 Report

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>>45614653
>Honestly I'm more than positive we'll see the rest of the pokemon with whatever remakes we inevitably get this gen.
Despite the fact that I enjoyed SWSH more than most people, I have the feeling we won't get the entire natdex back
>I wouldn't say comfiest game, but it's top 3 easy
I don't agree with that but I respect your opinion

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 02:49:31 No.45615497 Report

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>>45615141
>>45614653
I also doubt we'll see the rest of the Dex unless they pull something for Pokemon Day alongside any new game/DLC reveals.

I also want to know what the other 2 games in that top 3 are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 04:00:02 No.45615937 Report

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>>45612952
go style catching is literally the same thing as the safari zone

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 04:05:18 No.45615975 Report

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>>45612468
Honestly I don't hate the game as much as others here, but I do hate the controls. Fuck those small ass Joycons, especially when you're forced to use one by itself. Seriously, they had the option to play handheld, why couldn't they let us use the actually good controller or even both joycons together?

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 09:18:51 No.45617346 Report

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bump.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 12:11:18 No.45618058 Report

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>>45613127
Souless

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 12:13:02 No.45618065 Report

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>>45612468
Wrong

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 12:24:10 No.45618103 Report

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>>45613027
>Let's Go catching
>active

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 12:25:20 No.45618108 Report

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>>45613154
Home.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 12:44:59 No.45618206 Report

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>>45613154
Why did they remove that feature?

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Anonymous Sat 05 Dec 2020 17:53:11 No.45619585 Report

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>>45618103
When framed in contrast to weakening/status effecting a Pokemon, and choosing a ball, yes. by far. Aside from the obvious fact that you're literally moving and engaging with the target, The Let's Go system provides various avenues of influencing catch-rates inclusive of accuracy of throws, timing, prior catches, the use of different berries to influence different parameters (how erratic a Pokemon is, its catch-rate, item drop chance), and a meta system that incentivizes building combos for increased shiny rates and stat guarantees as well as increasing the quality of your throws for bonuses.

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