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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 19:36:16 No.45857241 View View Reply Original Report

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Why isn't Sticky Web as popular as Stealth Rock or Spikes? It's a lot more fun to use and a lot more helpful in many cases imho. Is it just because very little pokemon get it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 19:38:50 No.45857259 Report

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>>45857241
i used sticky web on your mom's face

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 19:40:05 No.45857265 Report

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>>45857241
Because a dead pokemon is a better opponent than a slow pokemon and damage entry hazards help you make OHKOs more often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 19:46:08 No.45857312 Report

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>>45857241
stealth rock and spikes are useful for all kinds of teams. sticky webs are usually only good for hyper offensive teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 19:51:14 No.45857340 Report

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I like spikes and stealth rocks because they break sashes which is more useful to my glass canons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 20:05:31 No.45857439 Report

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>>45857241
Not as many mons get sticky web otherwise it might get more use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 20:09:44 No.45857455 Report

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>>45857241
>Is it just because very little pokemon get it?
This is exactly the reason. I run Ground monotype teams primarily, for example. I would love to have access to a Sticky Web user to shore up the type's slow average speed, but that's just not in the cards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 20:11:46 No.45857472 Report

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>>45857241
Most sticky web users suck and dont fit HO teams which sticky web itself most benefits. The "saved" EVs you get in speed from not having to dump 252 into speed don't have much of a use. And sticky web does nothing against stall teams which are popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 20:23:02 No.45857547 Report

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>>45857241
During dracovish times I used webs on water absorb araquanid for a while, it was pretty cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 20:25:14 No.45857566 Report

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>>45857455
>asking for sticky web coverage
Lando-tranny get out reeeeeeeeeeee

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 20:47:49 No.45857714 Report

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>>45857472
>The "saved" EVs you get in speed from not having to dump 252 into speed don't have much of a use
There are layers to this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 21:05:00 No.45857851 Report

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>>45857241
Low distribution is the main reason. Effectively paralyzing an entire enemy team is great effect, its just mostly stuck on crappy bugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 21:11:52 No.45857902 Report

Quoted By: >>45866743

webs are great
i can run swords dance lando-t and not worry about having to switch out against what usually outspeeds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 21:12:47 No.45857909 Report

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>>45857241
Sticky webs only fit on cheesy hyper offense teams.
Nobody wants to run Shuckle or one of those spiders on a real team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 21:25:57 No.45858005 Report

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>>45857241
I think its because Sticky Web isn't causing any damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 00:32:35 No.45859261 Report

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>>45857241
Because few teams can take full advantage of it, it's easy to pressure the viable setters and defog against them, and it ends up being useless against some teams anyways.
Webs are good, hell people want it banned from ORAS OU, but it does not provide utility that every team benefits from unlike the other hazards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 00:38:26 No.45859305 Report

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>not running sturdy sticky web shuckle
Why live?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 02:27:47 No.45860013 Report

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>>45857241
>Is it just because very little pokemon get it?
Yes. The few mons that do get Sticky Web almost always use it.
With SR, plenty of mons that are already good get it and it's easy to just slap it on without losing much.
With SW, you need a dedicated webber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 04:08:28 No.45860664 Report

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>>45857241
webs are nice but damaging entry hazards continue to stack
the debuff doesn't increase the more you switch a mon into webs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 06:32:23 No.45861419 Report

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>>45857241
Sticky Webs are only used for HO teams, and those teams tend to also use Sneaky Pebbles.
Pebbles would have to be more popular by default because they're seen without Webs, but Webs aren't seen without them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 08:58:18 No.45862032 Report

Quoted By: >>45862051 >>45866743

Heavy Duty Boots exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 09:04:00 No.45862051 Report

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>>45862032
Yes, and?
Stealth Rocks are still used constantly despite Heavy Duty Boots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 10:37:24 No.45862377 Report

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>>45857241
>Is it just because very little pokemon get it?
Yes.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 10:44:14 No.45862404 Report

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Thanks for the free attack boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 13:41:55 No.45863093 Report

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>>45862404
Flying types don’t get affected by webs

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 13:43:18 No.45863101 Report

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>>45863093
haha whoops wrong image

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 15:49:04 No.45863846 Report

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>>45863101
What use is that attack boost when you'll get outsped and oneshot by most fighting types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 16:02:07 No.45863919 Report

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>>45863846
bisharp used sucker punch/iron head on the fighting type switch in

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 16:12:27 No.45863965 Report

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>>45863919
>sucker punch on the switch in
nice wasted turn nerd

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 20:16:55 No.45865566 Report

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>>45863919
>sucker punch on a fighting-type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 23:34:15 No.45866743 Report

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>>45857714
>>45857472
>>45857851
>>45857902
>>45862032
>>45863919

t. ELOlets

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 23:36:38 No.45866758 Report

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>>45857241
Sticky Web is so rare because of its minimal distribution, yes.
If you gave it to staple setters that didn't really care for giving up a move, I guarantee you it would be right up there with Sneaky Pebbles in terms of complaints.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 23:42:50 No.45866792 Report

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>>45857241
>All Ribombee is good for is setting up webs and killing dragons / fursuit bears if it's at full.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 04:30:32 No.45868575 Report

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>>45866792
That's better than nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 06:19:47 No.45869050 Report

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>>45866743
Post yours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 06:29:11 No.45869081 Report

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Shuckle is the only web setter worth shit and even then it's easily abused. I've still made a webs team every game from XY on but it seriously gets worse from one game to the next.
>contrary serperior
>defog buff
>defog distribution buff
>now boots (biggest blow to the playstyle)
>priority still everywhere
>extremely fast pokemon like dragapult mean webs abusers are still frequently outsped
At least there are less fast offensive flying types, I guess. Nowadays most people run birds defensively outside of lucha and cooler moltres.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 06:34:02 No.45869095 Report

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>>45866792
Anon, don't be spoiled. Being the fastest SW user with a good typing is a better fate than most mons will ever have, especially for an early game Bug type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jan 2021 11:55:42 No.45870003 Report

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>>45866792
At least it has a niche.
Most mons don't even have that.

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