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>>47046273
he's secretly Kanto champion. remember how Lance is actually only part of the Elite Four now? Gary is endgame. Leon is shit compared to a full-time researcher/expert trainer.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 09:57:17 No.47046374 Report

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>>47046303
that would make sense, it's a surprise like in the KANTOOOO games

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:10:14 No.47046823 Report

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They should bring back agatha and lorelei
Fuck a misty vs lorelei episode would be great

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:27:35 No.47046878 Report

Quoted By: >>47046883 >>47046893 >>47046904 >>47047337

Misty and Ash are in love with each other and desired to kiss each other at a chrismas party, this is an inarguable canon fact that we have seen on display time and time again.

whether or not Satoshi and Kasumi have any interest in each other at all is very much up for debate

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:28:50 No.47046883 Report

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>>47046878
Pokeshipping was a 4kids dub thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:32:10 No.47046893 Report

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>>47046878
Go away shipper

>>47046883
I think that's their point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:34:54 No.47046904 Report

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>>47046878
B....B...BASED!

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:36:50 No.47046913 Report

Quoted By: >>47047325 >>47051345

iwane says it's mirufi day, and I'm confused, is this a pun?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:42:42 No.47046931 Report

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>>47046883
cope

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:45:38 No.47046945 Report

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>>47046883
are you actually stupid

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 12:46:31 No.47046950 Report

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>>47046272
Soon I hope
I'm tired of Masuda's ending

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:03:36 No.47047022 Report

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>>47046303
That makes sense. Ash became the champion of Alola and beat the champion of Unova. Gary is always a step ahead of Ash, so Kanto Champion Gary is realistic especially when we've seen trainers like Cynthia and Kukui who can be both researchers and respected battlers.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:06:29 No.47047030 Report

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>>47046303
This unironically wouldn't surprise me, they'd probably keep it a secret until the master class because Gary could already be in the top eight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:09:50 No.47047045 Report

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>>47047030
Imagine if Gary is actually the strongest in the top 8 but hasn't challenged Leon because he's been busy with Project Mew stuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:13:30 No.47047059 Report

Quoted By: >>47047069

You guys are giving Gary too much credit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:15:44 No.47047069 Report

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>>47047059
He's the most recognizable rival character in the entire franchise, he's the only character they'd could really do something like this with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:17:29 No.47047078 Report

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>>47047069
He's also the champion in the original game. It would be an actually good Kanto reference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:33:36 No.47047142 Report

Quoted By: >>47051495

I heard the iris became champion and then fucking lost in the first battle we see her as champion.
What the literal fuck.
Also is allan, tobias gonna be in it?
Is leon seriously the strongest trainer in the world?
What the fuck, he was piss easy.
Every gum leader was piss easy.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:36:07 No.47047156 Report

Quoted By: >>47047179

They jabbed my boy. Also, how can we ever tell which Tauros Ash uses is which? Is this one here THE Tauros he always uses?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:41:37 No.47047179 Report

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>>47047156
We can't. The likeliest case is he just picks a random one

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:46:50 No.47047198 Report

Quoted By: >>47047215 >>47047337

What are some one-sided shippings?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:49:44 No.47047215 Report

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>>47047198
All of them outside of Pokeshipping, Contestshipping, and whatever the hell Kukui and Burnet are called.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:55:14 No.47047244 Report

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>>47047069

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:56:19 No.47047256 Report

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:57:31 No.47047261 Report

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>>47047256

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:58:20 No.47047265 Report

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>>47047261
>kiss on the cheek.
Poor thing. Imagine never having what Ash has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:59:02 No.47047269 Report

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>>47047265
Imagining is all amourshippers do since they didn't even show the kiss lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 13:59:46 No.47047272 Report

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>>47047269
uh oh, you're dissociating to cope again. it's okay to have your ship sunk by amour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:00:52 No.47047277 Report

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>>47047272
>it's another ASAWfag in denial thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:02:08 No.47047283 Report

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>>47047277
It's been years anon, why are you still mad? When I said you were eternally BTFO on kiss day I thought I was joking, but you're still mad to this day. oof.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:08:04 No.47047316 Report

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>>47047277
>ASAWfag
This fag is even worse then Scott and Famon. I never thought we would get a shitposter worse then those two autists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:09:58 No.47047325 Report

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>>47046913
Probably a wordpaly?
>May 8

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:11:26 No.47047335 Report

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>>47047215
Kukui and burnet dont have a ship name cause their aint anything to ship because they married and had a kid
That ship has been christned and sailed sort of speak

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:11:34 No.47047337 Report

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>>47046878
>>47047198
>>47047215
>>47047256
>>47047261
>>47047265
>>47047272
You can share

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:15:30 No.47047358 Report

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based on the data I've gotten from /padt/ over the years this seems to be about where each girl stands.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:27:28 No.47047417 Report

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>>47047358
based on the data I've gotten from /padt/ over the years this seems to be about where each girl stands.

Serena gets her own special tier since she's simply unrivaled in terms of reception and popularity, being /padt/'s omnipresent goddess despite not appearing for half a decade. The perfect girl

Dawn is also literally perfect and had Serena not had such a massive vocal base on /padt/ she'd be sharing the exclusive spot with Serena. alas, /padt/'s serena obsession is beyond her

PM Iris is in amazing tier because they fixed her character by playing up her strengths and ignoring everything that made her character annoying, giving her the charm and prominence she was robbed of in her series.

Bonnie. That is all.

Bs are great, but not amazing.

Cs are okay and have their moments but need more development

Ds are complete waste of a slot. Detriment to their series. Can't stand alone. need to be fixed in later seasons.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:38:08 No.47047467 Report

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>>47047417
Imagine taking the time to write this up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:42:21 No.47047492 Report

Quoted By: >>47047513 >>47047636

I really don't understand why some people on serebii are calling the battle rushed. Have people forgotten the way most past battles play out? Usually pokemon are knocked out with 1-2 attacks when the writers want to get to the "meat" of the battle. It's almost like people have forgotten what most past battles play out like.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:45:48 No.47047513 Report

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>>47047492
Most of these faggots have only watched XY or have misplaced nostalgia for DP. So they don’t know what they are talking about.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:46:36 No.47047518 Report

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>Ash finally gets up to number 2 in the rankings
>is finally ready to battle Leon
>finds out Leon just lost to the new world champion, Gary
Would be a keno ending

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:53:16 No.47047572 Report

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Its been a day and Power Up and Iris fans like Sham and HatersgonnaHate are still bickering with each other in the thread.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 14:57:53 No.47047600 Report

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>>47047417
Based

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:03:19 No.47047636 Report

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>>47047492
It was rushed.
>multiple uses of stock footage
>Pokemon rarely both animating at the same time (because of the stock footage)
>stiff animation so it looks like dragonite just jumped into abominations mouth and decided to stay there rather than putting up any kind of struggle
>Haxorous' strategy of keeping it's distance works because abomination doesn't move outside of being hit and just goes down
>Outrage is just a move Haxorous uses to break dragon claw and contributes nothing to the battle afterwards
>final clash is stock footage of haxorous' outrage but with draco meteor over it.
The episode was great, loved the interactions and foreshadowing draco meteor with hurricane blowing off the ceiling. Also love draco meteor's new animation. But the battle was extremely rushed.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:08:30 No.47047667 Report

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They’re finally going to reintroduce Dawn as Gary’s girlfriend.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:09:42 No.47047675 Report

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if anyone sees leakfag post random shit again, remember he was BTFOed by not mentioning the Volkner return.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:10:18 No.47047678 Report

Quoted By: >>47047771 >>47047794 >>47048581

they added a bridge

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:20:20 No.47047749 Report

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>>47047417
nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:22:02 No.47047760 Report

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>>47047636
>>multiple uses of stock footage
The only stock footage that was used in that battle was Dragonite’s Dragon Dance, and it was used once. All the cuts otherwise were new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:23:14 No.47047771 Report

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>>47047678
Man I fucking love shit like this. They could make new designs for the city but instead are just revamping already established locations. There were some other places like that too. Why the hell is OLM so good at animating?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:24:13 No.47047780 Report

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>>47047636
>the battle was extremely rushed
It literally took the entire episode

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:26:04 No.47047794 Report

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>>47047678
I hate how saturated and futuristic they made all the Unova cities look

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:27:12 No.47047805 Report

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>>47047760
>>47047780
I thought that the animation was fine, but I agree with the other anon that the battle really felt like it went by quickly and nothing of significance/weight happened besides the Dragonite and Iris moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:30:14 No.47047829 Report

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>>47047760
Dragon rush's animation was reused every single time it was used. haxorous using outrage was reused twice.

>>47047780
Yes, but it was padded and the action was stiff due to the rushed quality. so it felt like it just happened with no memorable moments besides Iris being best girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:30:23 No.47047830 Report

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>>47047805
That's how every battle plays out in the anime.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:38:03 No.47047880 Report

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>>47047830
Have you watched any series before PM?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 15:47:07 No.47047930 Report

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https://twitter.com/theaaronschmit/status/1390354282977845256

It's funny because it's still true.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:01:05 No.47048014 Report

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>>47047930
It's nice fanart, but it really doesn't work with current Ash.
>beat a champion while using type advantages
>is bringing back reserves
All this stuff, and PM2019 has only reached the halfway mark. Though I think PM2019 might actually be longer than the average Pokemon season.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:04:33 No.47048049 Report

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>>47047930
Can't blame him tho, we know what happens when fake hype is involved.

As a side note, while Invincible comics were above average the viltrumite wank gets annoying and make the Saiyan wank look like child's plays. Even Clark has more weakness and tends to get the shit kicked out of him by more races instead of pure Kryptonians.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:04:55 No.47048051 Report

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>>47047930
>still true
It isn't, and Ash hasn't used Pikachu in a serious battle for a while.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:06:56 No.47048068 Report

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>>47048049
>Even Clark has more weakness and tends to get the shit kicked out of him by more races instead of pure Kryptonians.
Clark gets his ass kicked many times, but people who don't read the comics think he's 100% invincible. DC tends to wank Batman and WonderWoman far more than Superman. Same could be said abour Peter Parker and Marvel. Peter's their mascot, but he gets treated like shit in the comics. Peter and Clark deserve better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:11:30 No.47048109 Report

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>>47047417
I agree for the most part but you should move Kohaku down a step for now, she hasn't done anything to deserve to be placed that high

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:13:50 No.47048135 Report

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>>47048051
When exactly was the last time Ash used Pikachu in a PWC battle?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:13:58 No.47048137 Report

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>>47047417
The eternal pokegirl at the bottom of another autistic anon's list, absolutely based.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:22:07 No.47048225 Report

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>>47047337
Based

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:25:04 No.47048256 Report

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>>47048137
Don’t be sad. She got third on that jap poll too.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:26:37 No.47048274 Report

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>>47048256
>autistic jap otaku don't like her either
Even more based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:37:06 No.47048362 Report

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>>47048135
Bea rematch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:38:54 No.47048383 Report

Quoted By: >>47048397 >>47048409

reddit's Pokemon anime board has some of the worst takes on the anime I've seen. And I thought serebii was bad.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:40:41 No.47048397 Report

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>>47048383
Post examples

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:41:51 No.47048409 Report

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>>47048383
Let me guess, they said something negative about May

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:48:34 No.47048466 Report

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>>47048397
>>47048409
It was that Japanese poll that listed Serena as the most popular female companion there, look at the replies, the thread had to be locked. Surprisingly enough it was Dawn fans and Serena fans arguing with each other, since there's barely any Misty fans on that reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonanime/comments/n6s9h5/serena_voted_in_japan_as_the_most_popular_heroine/?sort=confidence

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:52:55 No.47048503 Report

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>>47048466
>the two most autistic pokegirl fanbases fighting over a 5000 vote poll

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:53:07 No.47048505 Report

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>>47048466
>since there's barely any Misty fans on that reddit
Would seem to me that’s that case elsewhere as well.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:54:01 No.47048517 Report

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>>47048503
The winner can get a twenty second cameo in a future episode.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:54:02 No.47048519 Report

Quoted By: >>47049311

>>47048466
Such a waste of time. In reality TPC doesn’t give a shit about either one. Waifu wars are always stupid because Misty and Jessie are the only ones that have any type of mainstream appeal due to the first series. They others don’t, so the obsession comes off as autistic.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:54:33 No.47048524 Report

Quoted By: >>47048559

I honestly think it's the age gap between fans. I wouldn't be surprised if most people who post there range between 14-18 years old or so, basically people who grew up with XY when they were kids.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:55:43 No.47048534 Report

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>>47048466
>Serena and Dawn respectively in 1st and 2nd

Gonna be that guy, but as someone who wanted Misty to come back, those two earned their spot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:57:19 No.47048547 Report

Quoted By: >>47048567

>>47048466
>the 4,000+ character rant at the bottom from the most autistic dawntard I’ve ever seen
Yikes. Good to know that the /dg/ anons are way more chill than this.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:58:22 No.47048559 Report

Quoted By: >>47048666

>>47048524
It's that and dedication level. Similar to how people here were shocked at the very warm reception that Iris got when she returned on casual sites, they thought everyone hated her because a bunch of otakufags hated her.

OLM and TPC clearly don't give a fuck about them considering the perennial otaku fan favorite Serena's continued absence so I wouldn't give it much attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:59:08 No.47048564 Report

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Honestly as a fan of Serena/Amour myself (she's not my favorite character as I like some of the other girls more), it really is sad how some of these people act. They really do remind me of those hardcore Misty fans/pokeshippers who used to hate all the other girls just because Misty left.

Shipping really does make fanbases autistic, to the point where they think the entire show is about the character even years after they've been gone from the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 16:59:31 No.47048567 Report

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>>47048547
It was just one guy, and a 11 day old account
I wouldn't be surprise if it's Sc*tt falseflagging and then posting the thread here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:01:00 No.47048581 Report

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>>47047678
how did anyone survive watching BW with those ugly clouds and trees and neon colored backgrounds in every episode?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:07:52 No.47048627 Report

Quoted By: >>47048664

>>47048581
The actual battles were animated well in BW (and people need to stop confusing animation with writing, obvious the writing in some of them wasn't that good like the Elesa match).

I remember watching BW 2 years ago and what stuck out to me the most is how the battles were better animated than a lot of the ones we had in SM or even anything from pre-DP.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:13:43 No.47048664 Report

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>>47048627
They were good but it was all Iwane's. BW was peak Iwane but XY and SM had more diversity

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:13:58 No.47048666 Report

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>>47048559
>OLM and TPC clearly don't give a fuck about them considering the perennial otaku fan favorite Serena's continued absence so I wouldn't give it much attention

That is what makes the autism hilarious. They are fighting about two characters that OLM sees as disposable eye candy and nothing more.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 17:49:44 No.47048887 Report

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This based god should show up in the Master's 8.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:01:20 No.47048978 Report

Quoted By: >>47049597

Will they all be hyper class (sans Raihan)? Or will they only show up in cameos like Opal did?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:05:50 No.47049007 Report

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>>47048109
True, but i think he put her there since she has had consistent characrer development and has potential. Honestly Chloe is my favorite character in PM so far and im a serenafag.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:22:08 No.47049145 Report

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>>47047256
Based and eternal, Dawnfags and Lilliekeks can never erase this

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:26:02 No.47049167 Report

Quoted By: >>47049184 >>47049657

SERENA WHEN

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:27:18 No.47049184 Report

Quoted By: >>47049900

>>47049167
never thankfully

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:28:37 No.47049200 Report

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And done with another.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:33:16 No.47049241 Report

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I'm glad Axew did evolve, but it doesn't have much of a personality now.
Also
>sorry Go, you already have grass monkey so you can't have Pansage
Dumb choice given the whole "catch everything" dream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:41:38 No.47049311 Report

Quoted By: >>47049630

>>47048519
Seriously. Misty has gotten more screentime since leaving the main cast than the rest of the pokegirls have since leaving COMBINED. It's also the same case with Brock and the rest of the non-OS boy companions, Gary and the rest of the rivals, and Charizard and the rest of Ash's acemons.

You'd think people would come to terms with how the show and the casual audience work and at least make peace with it, but they get more and more delusional as time goes on. It's constant scott-style threadshitting in a desperate attempt to try to damage control.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:43:33 No.47049318 Report

Quoted By: >>47049835

>>47047675
I did mention Denzi ^_^

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:49:32 No.47049359 Report

Quoted By: >>47049377 >>47049389 >>47049428 >>47049744 >>47050748 >>47050835 >>47050841 >>47050904 >>47050907 >>47050986 >>47051023 >>47051096

Tomiyasu killed the anime

>Dude what if Ash became a champion?!
>And now he travels around the world visiting old locations, meeting and battling old friends and rivals and his goal was to become the world's greatest trainer?!

Say whatever you want about Yajima, but at least he respected the traditions that we all loved.

Ash gets a party, he trains it, he loses the league and leaves them with Oak. None of this alolan family fanfiction, no anime original professors, no world adventures, just a very focused story full of respect towards the traditions.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:49:44 No.47049360 Report

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>Emolga updated to sholdermon
Good. Good for her.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:52:09 No.47049377 Report

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>>47049359
>he respected the traditions that we all loved.
????

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:53:51 No.47049389 Report

Quoted By: >>47049425 >>47049643

>>47049359
i would drop the show if they went back to badges. go rewatch sagas before sun and moon if you're still interested in that shit after seeing it so many times

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:56:00 No.47049406 Report

Quoted By: >>47051301

>>47046254
I didn't even watch the BW series, so why does this hit me in the feels?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:59:02 No.47049425 Report

Quoted By: >>47049621

>>47049389
>i would drop the show if they went back to badges
it's the same shit with the PWT, what you hate is MOTW
I recently saw the Yashahime anime and it fucking blows and so did Pokemon XY, that formula should have gone extinct in the mid 2000's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 18:59:25 No.47049428 Report

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>>47049359
>Say whatever you want about Yajima, but at least he respected the traditions that we all loved

Speak for yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:00:28 No.47049442 Report

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why didn't Go battle Iris with Eternatus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:11:08 No.47049511 Report

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>>47047930
Pikachu, even in yesterday's episode, is shown to get stroppy when Ash doesn't use him.
Hell, he ran away because "boo hoo, the new baby is being trained while I, a fucking tank, am ignored"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:26:19 No.47049597 Report

Quoted By: >>47051769

>>47048978
I'm really wondering what they'll do with the rest of the Galar Gym leaders. They can't just not show them at all, right?

It's obvious Ash won't battle all of them, but I still wonder if they'll be featured. Some of the most popular ones like Nessa, Allister, etc. still haven't appeared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:30:57 No.47049621 Report

Quoted By: >>47051525

>>47049425
JoJo's BA has a MOTW formula and people still love it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:32:43 No.47049630 Report

Quoted By: >>47049692

>>47049311
That's only due to her recent SM cameos.

Misty only appeared in 4 full AG eps (and were only 2 eps at a time she stuck around for), and then she never appeared again when Battle Frontier started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:33:38 No.47049637 Report

Quoted By:

Did anyone expect Iris to job like he did?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:34:33 No.47049643 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049389
Ash resetting to zero sucks now, Pokémon's gotten to the point where it has to be retooled because the market sees more than the original series and Shudo intended.

That and Ash being able to access his older captures more frequent instead of waiting 3-5 years for a league is for the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:36:06 No.47049653 Report

Quoted By:

It's been a whole day now.
How are Irisfags coping?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:36:40 No.47049657 Report

Quoted By: >>47049900

>>47049167
hopefully never

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:44:12 No.47049692 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049630
Lmao, you just proved his point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:45:01 No.47049697 Report

Quoted By: >>47049745 >>47049752

One reason I do think that's Lillie's Ninetails is the writers seem to have no problem with evolving the girls mascot pokemon after they leave the series as seen with Axew, or Misty's Togepi back in AG. Only exception will be Piplup for obvious reasons.

I think the writers will definitely bring up the ice stone Lillie has with her, assuming she didn't already evolve Snowy off-screen from the last time we saw her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:50:17 No.47049735 Report

Quoted By: >>47051051

>Beat a Gym Leader to get into Super Class
>Beat a Champion to get into Hyper Class
>Will probably beat another Gym Leader to get into Master Class
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:51:36 No.47049744 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049359
>traditions
it's called autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:52:00 No.47049745 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049697
That reminds me, we still have the Mohn arc to go through. Wouldn't be surprised if Snowy evo happens during that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:53:43 No.47049752 Report

Quoted By: >>47049763

>>47049697
Axew evolved because it's neither a shillmon or a popularmon. No one gives a shit if Kibago won't be there anymore. Don't compare apples with oranges.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:55:30 No.47049763 Report

Quoted By: >>47049772

>>47049752
Isn't Lillie's Vulpix the same then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 19:56:08 No.47049772 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049763
>A-Vulpix
>Not a shillmon or popularmon
You serious nigga?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:03:07 No.47049831 Report

Quoted By: >>47050016 >>47050909 >>47051110

What does Iris smell like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:03:40 No.47049835 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049318
I checked, and the only time you mentioned Volkner was after the Taiwanese leak and never before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:07:01 No.47049867 Report

Quoted By:

I really wonder how they can even make an Ash vs. Volkner match interesting. I get the feeling any Journies battle between them will be worse than their old DP battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:11:15 No.47049900 Report

Quoted By: >>47049974

>>47049184
>>47049657

Fuck you best for last I hope she comes back and kisses ash again just to make you seethe

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:16:54 No.47049952 Report

Quoted By: >>47049976 >>47050004 >>47050090 >>47052723

Serena has no friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:18:57 No.47049974 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049900
Serenafag here, anon, the fact that happened in the first place was a massive deal in itself. The writing in this series is pretty shit so I don't think I even want her to come back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:19:04 No.47049976 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049952
Besides everyone meeting Go since he's on the cast currently, I do wonder if they'd ever have two old characters cameo at the same time who never met.

Like would they ever have Dawn meet Serena? Or Misty meet Dawn? etc. It's probably unlikely because bringing back two characters at once will inevitably take screentime away from one another. Like we'll never see Dawn and Serena interacting in canon for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:21:23 No.47050004 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049952
Shauna, Miette, etc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:22:41 No.47050016 Report

Quoted By: >>47050975

>>47049831
lilac and gooseberries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:30:40 No.47050090 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049952
Sarena will have a breakdown if she found out other girls travelled with him for long periods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 20:37:04 No.47050145 Report

Quoted By:

Been rewatching XY and there are so many great and fun fillers in the beginning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:13:55 No.47050448 Report

Quoted By: >>47050491 >>47050717 >>47051094

https://twitter.com/AshandSerena/status/1391134849575002112

"New" merch, I think we saw these a couple of months ago but yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:18:59 No.47050491 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050448
yeah, it's old

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:27:06 No.47050558 Report

Quoted By: >>47050610

KANTO CHAMPION GARY KANTO CHAMPION GARY KANTO CHAMPION GARY KANTO CHAMPION GARY KANTO CHAMPION GARY KANTO CHAMPION GARY KANTO CHAMPION GARY KANTO CHAMPION GARY KANTO CHAMPION GARY

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:32:36 No.47050610 Report

Quoted By: >>47051038

>>47050558
Oh, hey buddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:39:53 No.47050668 Report

Quoted By: >>47050669 >>47050686

>>47046254
where to watch anime in japanese?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:40:27 No.47050669 Report

Quoted By: >>47050680

>>47050668
in japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:41:46 No.47050680 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050669
I mean older episodes btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:42:20 No.47050686 Report

Quoted By: >>47050689 >>47051436

>>47050668
Pirate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:42:52 No.47050689 Report

Quoted By: >>47050770

>>47050686
where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:46:30 No.47050717 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050448
Yeah old, I think I saw somewhere it's expected to come out near July

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:51:00 No.47050748 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049359
>Say whatever you want about Yajima, but at least he respected the traditions that we all loved.
Shut the fuck up,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 21:53:45 No.47050770 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050689
Lurk moar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:02:38 No.47050835 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049359
BASED and TRUEpilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:03:08 No.47050841 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049359
why do you retards have to write like this, this isnt fucking reddit stupid mongoloid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:04:04 No.47050844 Report

Quoted By: >>47050868 >>47050871

Why can't XYfags move in already? I mean you never see DPfags saying "I miss DP" and whoever DP's director was, why can't XYfags do the same?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:07:57 No.47050868 Report

Quoted By: >>47050890

>>47050844
>I mean you never see DPfags saying "I miss DP" and whoever DP's director was
I haven't true, but I have seen obsessed Mayfags go on about how they miss her and AG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:08:02 No.47050871 Report

Quoted By: >>47051560

>>47050844
move in to what anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:10:57 No.47050890 Report

Quoted By: >>47051005 >>47051015 >>47051111

>>47050868
What is there to miss about May? She has the least defined personality of all of Ash's female companions.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:12:23 No.47050904 Report

Quoted By: >>47051612 >>47051719 >>47051731

>>47049359
>Say whatever you want about Yajima, but at least he respected the traditions that we all loved.
You mean:
>Having a super special-snowflake OC cuck him
>Team Rocket in every goddamn episode to have some cheap stakes
>days on a fucking forest
>some girl y shit didn't serve any real purpose and was only there to remind us that the girl is useless
>shallow interactions between the group to make them look like friends just to have the opposite effect

Yeah, no.

>alolan family fanfiction
Cope, Ash will never consider your favorite group as important as his mom, Misty, Brock and Alola.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:12:41 No.47050907 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049359
Those so called 'traditions' hurt the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:12:49 No.47050909 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049831
Coconut butter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:21:25 No.47050975 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050016
>Witcher reference
she isn't fucking Yennefer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:22:31 No.47050986 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049359
Stay mad and irrelevant, Serenacuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:25:02 No.47051005 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050890
>What is there to miss about May?
Booba

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:26:25 No.47051015 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050890
sex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:27:13 No.47051023 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049359
That wasn’t Yajima’s decision, and he made it clear in interviews post-XY that XY&Z was being rushed and he wished he had more time with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:29:41 No.47051038 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050610
Gary's just gonna catch some legendaries that can stand up to Mewtwo and cement his being Kanto Champion. And his Blastoise is most likely an OP Mega anyway. I'd like to see Ash "catching" Mewtwo temporarily just to fight Gary at the very end, post-Leon. Of course, I'm cheering for Gary Motherfucking Oak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:31:48 No.47051051 Report

Quoted By: >>47051114

>>47049735
Probably an Elite Four, or Raihan. We still don’t know who’s Ranked 8 in the Masters 8, because Raihan is ranked 7. Ash would have to defeat someone in the Masters 8 in order to make it into the tournament and if I had to place my bets I’m saying either Raihan or some random Elite Four member.

Currently I see the Masters 8 as: Leon, Lance, Cynthia, Steven, Diantha, and Raihan. I have no clue who the other two could be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:34:59 No.47051074 Report

Quoted By:

>>47047256
>>47047261
You guys never seem to bring this up and Idk why. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWRoIHgRz94

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:37:20 No.47051094 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050448
Honestly the Piplup being with Go's Pokemon there is suspicious, as remember that merch came out before the Absol ep and now Go captured the Absol.

The problem is Go is likely to have Inteleon really soon, and I can't see Go having two water starters. Piplup isn't just a pokemon he would capture and left to rot in the lab with no screentime, it'd likely get as much focus as his Galar starters. And with Grookey being the shoulder pokemon it's hard to imagine.

And Koharu is already full with Yamper and Eevee. Ash also has Dracovish as his water pokemon.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:37:22 No.47051096 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049359
Don't try and speak for me with your bitch nigga ass opinions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:39:11 No.47051110 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049831
Fruity Shampoo and a hint of sweat (that gets progressively worse throughout the day) in her usual clothes.
A sweet smelling perfume and cocoa butter when she's in her champion outfit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:39:19 No.47051111 Report

Quoted By: >>47051164

>>47050890
May had one of the most developed personality for a main girl, simply because she was one of the earliest ones before each main girl became based on whatever anime trope the writers wanted the character to be as. People confuse May being multifaceted with being "bland" because she doesn't behave just one way her entire run like most of the other girls, she has vast personality quirks that are shown depending on whatever is happening in the episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:39:39 No.47051114 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051051
Gary Motherfucking Oak. Gary will serve as the "surprise" and eternal wall for Ash, which will spur him on to go on another journey. Ash may beat Leon, but he won't be beating Gary anytime soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:45:18 No.47051164 Report

Quoted By: >>47051188

>>47051111
>anime trope the writers wanted the character to be as

May is literally a ditzy, shoujo protagonist.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:49:04 No.47051188 Report

Quoted By: >>47051223

>>47051164
But she can also get angry and be as violent as Misty at times.

If May was *only* ditzy/silly and girly, I'd agree, but if you watch enough of her focus episodes you can see how differently she acts in each episode.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:52:51 No.47051222 Report

Quoted By: >>47051423 >>47051457 >>47051700 >>47052931

harem is the only right answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:52:53 No.47051223 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051188
So can Dawn and Iris.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:57:32 No.47051261 Report

Quoted By:

Broharus where you at?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:02:34 No.47051301 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049406
big same. you can tell the people in OLM really enjoy the Ashnime. if we ignore most of the "fillers" and useless Goh capture eps, PM2019 does something really special especially with scenes like this. they even made Iris likeable like wtf i've despised her for years and this shit happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:07:51 No.47051345 Report

Quoted By:

>>47046913
BASED IWANE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:17:03 No.47051423 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051222
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:17:57 No.47051436 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050686
Try gogoanime. I’m pretty sure it has all of DP subbed and the first few episodes of Hoenn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:19:59 No.47051457 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051222
Extremely based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:20:42 No.47051469 Report

Quoted By:

>>47047256
Hard to believe we'll never see Serena again. Conflicted feelings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:21:46 No.47051478 Report

Quoted By: >>47051599 >>47051616 >>47051647 >>47051723 >>47051861

As of this most recent epsiode, how does /padt/ rate all of Ash’s dragons strenght/feats wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:23:06 No.47051495 Report

Quoted By:

>>47047142
>Is leon seriously the strongest trainer in the world?
He's unbeaten. Even assuming Alain and Steven were above him, for example, they never officially fought him to determine superiority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:25:40 No.47051525 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049621
Jojo fans love Jojo, but even they complain about that format and a lot harshly criticize Stardust especially for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:28:41 No.47051560 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050871
Meant to say "move on"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:32:03 No.47051599 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051478
It feels weird doing Dragonite because the series ain't over yet, but we can at the very least say that Goodra is at the very bottom of that list

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:32:10 No.47051603 Report

Quoted By: >>47052422 >>47052693

>while Ash was in Kalos gathering badges Iris was in Unova gathering badges and probably reaching top 8/4 in her first league
>while Ash was on vacation in Alola Iris was training to challenge the Unova League again, and this time ended up winning and went on to battle the E4 in the Champions League
>while Ash was travelling the world with his tranny friend Iris was beating Alder and becoming the Unova Champion
Honestly I'd watch a spinoff of Iris' adventures after she stopped travelling with Ash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:33:41 No.47051612 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050904
Serena, Clemont and Bonnie felt more like a family than Kukui and Burnet

XY had the true family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:34:24 No.47051616 Report

Quoted By: >>47051667

>>47051478
Dnite > Naganadel = Gible > Vish > Goodra > Noivern

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:38:18 No.47051646 Report

Quoted By:

>>47047771
They did the same for Vermilion City
https://twitter.com/ryskonbr21/status/1242282900030185472

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:38:24 No.47051647 Report

Quoted By: >>47051667 >>47051684

>>47051478
Dragonite>Nagandel>Gible>Goodra>Dracovish>Noivern

I love the babby bat, but Noivern was a serious jobber in XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:40:57 No.47051667 Report

Quoted By: >>47051676

>>47051616
>>47051647
>Dracovish below Gible
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:42:19 No.47051676 Report

Quoted By: >>47051715

>>47051667
Gible went toe to toe with Darkrai and won Ash a round in the Sinnoh League.

Dracovish has one fight and one win in a battle against Iris's Dragonite who despite being a Champions Pokemon - is a massive jobber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:42:56 No.47051684 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051647
I feel bad for Goodra. Only time it outright lost was because of a literal OHKO move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:44:46 No.47051700 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051222
I instantly recognized PM Gal's artstyle. I am a degenerate.

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:45:43 No.47051707 Report

Quoted By: >>47051742 >>47051766

DAMN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:47:00 No.47051715 Report

Quoted By: >>47051740

>>47051676
>Gible went toe to toe with Darkrai and won Ash a round in the Sinnoh League.
Wasn't it oneshot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:47:34 No.47051719 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050904
This felt so out of character for Ash. Even in OS he behaved more mature and we are talking about a complete joke of a trainer Ash here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:48:03 No.47051723 Report

Quoted By: >>47051735

>>47051478
Dragonite>Naganadel>>>>>Goodra>=Gible>>>>>>>>>>Jobbers>>>>>>>Noivern

Going to hold on my judgement for Dracovish. Being able to beat a Torterra tier jobber and then getting swiftly btfo is not a good enough feat to judge on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:49:07 No.47051731 Report

Quoted By:

>>47050904
Get help Famon you mentally ill freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:49:30 No.47051735 Report

Quoted By: >>47051754

>>47051723
How is Noivern worse than Goodra? What has Goodra done besides beat Luxray?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:49:48 No.47051740 Report

Quoted By: >>47051833

>>47051715
Yeah, but it landed a hit and launched a Draco Meteor off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:50:24 No.47051742 Report

Quoted By: >>47051764

>>47051707
We never saw any Joys or Jennys from Unova/Kalos/Alola in PM, right? I wonder if they'll keep their BW/XY/SM designs or if they'll be redesigned like the Kanto/Johto/Hoenn/Sinnoh ones were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:53:24 No.47051754 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051735
Noivern only won against Shota's Doublade. It either jobbed in the rest of its battles except against Shota's Salamence in which it tied but Shota's Salamence was a literaly turbo jobber in all its evolution forms.

Goodra was a literal tank. The few battles it had it won the majority of them (like Luxray or against Tierno). In the league it got tied against literally the worst matchup it could face and then jobbed against a literal OHKO move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:54:28 No.47051763 Report

Quoted By:

I do hope Noviern or Goodra get a good battle if Ash uses them this series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:54:30 No.47051764 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051742
We did see Galar Joy, so I expect the newer regions to keep the new designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:54:42 No.47051766 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051707
Officer Milk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:55:05 No.47051769 Report

Quoted By:

>>47049597
allister is popular but either they assume people like bea more or make it intentionally to seem like allister is less popular
like the chicken and the egg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:56:30 No.47051779 Report

Quoted By: >>47051787 >>47051788 >>47051792 >>47051793

when will be Gengar's turn?...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:57:35 No.47051787 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051779
who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:57:35 No.47051788 Report

Quoted By: >>47051793

>>47051779
When Sabrina shows up with her Alakazam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:59:10 No.47051792 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051779
If the girl is Sabrina then Gengar will 100% be used again there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:59:21 No.47051793 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051779
this
>>47051788
also her (and Ash's friend) Haunter-now-Gengar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:00:47 No.47051808 Report

Quoted By: >>47051868 >>47051918 >>47051927 >>47051944 >>47051999

Do you think the drop in the quality of the battles was worth the raise in character animations and lesser use of stock footage?

>>>/wsg/3924050

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:02:42 No.47051823 Report

Quoted By: >>47051860

>becomes jobber in second half of series
>becomes Champion using your specialty in Dragons off screen
>loses to someone who doesn't even main Dragons after one of the biggest accomplishment in the series one can have.

You honestly, maybe they should have just made her gym leader. Because she got shafted hard as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:04:49 No.47051833 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051740
That isn't "toe to toe" and is entirely disingenuous to say that it had. It was a hard stomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:05:20 No.47051835 Report

Quoted By:

Technically Caitlin is also probably of the Sinnoh Battle Frontier, so that may explain her absence. The other three Unova Elite 4 never even appeared in the anime.

It just leaves Alder's glaring absence questionable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:09:13 No.47051860 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051823
To be fair, she lost to a pokemon she had never seen before and to one of the strongest dragon type moves

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:09:14 No.47051861 Report

Quoted By: >>47051870 >>47051878

>>47051478
Dragonite>Naganadel>Gible>Dracovish>Noivern>Goodra

Dragonite is currently undefeated, and took down both a Mega and a Champion’s ace.

Naganadel along with Pikachu easily took out a Guzzlord, beat Kukui’s Lucario, and held its own and even damaged Tapu Koko

Gible is Gible. The first Pokémon out of all 8 Gym Leaders and all of the previous competitors to even scratch Darkrai. Tobias praised it for being so strong. Swept Conway’s team, and only ever lost to Barry’s Empoleon because it hadn’t perfected Draco Meteor yet.

Dracovish is still too early but it’s clearly inherently powerful. It’s Pokédex entry states it was the apex predator in prehistoric times, so we know it has some strength to match. However defeating Iris’ Jobbernite isn’t all that significant seeing how it hasn’t won a single battle since it battled Dawn’s Mamoswine. We have to wait and see how truly strong it really is in future battles.

Noivern’s only two feats are tying with Salamance and knocking out Zapdos. Otherwise it got knocked around a lot. Not the strongest of Ash’s Dragons but definitely still has some innate potential.

Goodra is the worst. Ash hadn’t trained or battled with it since it battled Clemont so it jobbed a lot in the Kalos League. It was hyped up and near invincible during mid XY, but that was its peak and all the other Pokémon have far surpassed it.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:10:18 No.47051868 Report

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>>47051808
And for me, I would generally lean towards no. While the stiff and expressionless characters were a big fault it was not worth seeing the battles degrade so much as they did. I also found the battle expressions from the characters a lot better previously, even if they were often used as stock footage. The current battle expressions that are unique to the battles aren't as clean. Also not a fan of how they use smear frames, it just looks too obvious.

But I can see why somebody that favors character expressions more highly would disagree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:10:40 No.47051870 Report

Quoted By: >>47051916

>>47051861
Noivern did not knock out Zapdos. The battle was interrupted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:12:04 No.47051878 Report

Quoted By: >>47051916

>>47051861
>jobbed a lot in the Kalos League
It jobbed once against a literal OHKO move. Only Dragonite and shit like Infernape against Paul has been shown to be more of a tank than Goodra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:17:11 No.47051916 Report

Quoted By: >>47051952 >>47052087

>>47051870
Yes it did. Noivern hit it with Boomburst and Zapdos fell unconscious and almost fell to its death. Ash tried to save it but Team Rocket caught it first.
>>47051878
Goodra is a tank but that was only relevant during mid-XY. It came back just to tie in one match and lose in the other. Ash’s Torterra was a tank too but it still lost every battle it was in. Being a tank doesn’t matter if it doesn’t have the power to match, which if didn’t because Ash didn’t train or use it in battle until the Kalos League.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:17:17 No.47051918 Report

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>>47051808
No. You can create a memorable non-action scene with little to no animation but action scenes are as good as the animation used in them. That's why I still believe SM's animation direction was horrible.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:17:56 No.47051927 Report

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>>47051808
At least with SM I could understand it since the character animations were legitimately always on point, but Journeys has the worst of both worlds, worse character animation and mediocre battle animation.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:20:20 No.47051942 Report

Quoted By: >>47051976 >>47052019

It's weird how this is the only gym they haven't redesigned in PM

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:21:07 No.47051944 Report

Quoted By: >>47051971 >>47051972

>>47051808
Fuck Covid. I want 3D camera back.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:21:49 No.47051952 Report

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>>47051916
I think you're underrating Goodra. It was just a victim of extremely bad matchups. Cotton Guard Slurpuff is a literal hard counter and Alan's Bisharp was both a fucking beast and used a OHKO move.

Doesn't help either that Ash is notoriously garbage with defensive pokemon.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:23:45 No.47051971 Report

Quoted By: >>47051994

>>47051944
Jesus fuck I forgot how absolutely clean battles used to look.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:23:51 No.47051972 Report

Quoted By: >>47052007 >>47052015 >>47052030 >>47052045

>>47051944
the 3D camera was bad for the most part and very few animators made good use of it

it looked awful in nature (grass fields, mountains, forests, anything other than gyms)

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:24:04 No.47051976 Report

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>>47051942
What’s there to redesign? It’s fine. Really they updated the dragons but I feel they look worse. I prefer the more rugged and cracked look they have in BW because it makes things feel more ancient.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:24:48 No.47051984 Report

Quoted By: >>47051993 >>47052801

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:25:51 No.47051993 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051984
Paul, Surge, and Lillie

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:25:54 No.47051994 Report

Quoted By: >>47052013

>>47051971
that's just kalos,
Other than SOME league battles I can't remember if any battle for that season looked half as good.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:26:07 No.47051999 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051808
I can have still heads with only mouths moving between battles but battles have to be dynamic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:27:04 No.47052007 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051972
the 3D camera was the biggest reason for the battles being as dynamic as they were. I would argue every single battle in the series was elevated a lot because of it.

Should have kept them for battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:27:24 No.47052013 Report

Quoted By: >>47052025 >>47052028

>>47051994
? Every Gym battle except Valerie was unanimously agreed upon to look great back when these threads were high volume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:27:36 No.47052015 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051972
I disagree. There were maybe few instances when it looked meh but in general it was great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:28:10 No.47052019 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051942
too smooth
hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:28:43 No.47052025 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052013
>spic

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:29:12 No.47052028 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052013
He means SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:29:28 No.47052030 Report

Quoted By:

>>47051972
Nah, I disagree, I thought they almost always gave the anime tons of energy and movement

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:30:42 No.47052043 Report

Quoted By: >>47052052

We're sadly never going back to that since it costs a lot apparently

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:31:17 No.47052045 Report

Quoted By: >>47052069

>>47051972
I agree but solely in the contexts in where it was used for wide open areas. Then is became really obvious and distracting that it was being used, a prime example being its use in the first Geninja vs. Sceptile fight. In closer spaces it was way better and made battle feel smooth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:31:48 No.47052048 Report

Quoted By:

Bide while an interesting move is super hard to use, what if your opponent just dodge it? you received a huge amount of damage for nothing. Also in the time Bide is being used, the other side can simply just not attack and set up, switch out or whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:32:23 No.47052052 Report

Quoted By: >>47052125

>>47052043
That's the thing with 3D animation in general. People for some reason think it's used to save money. No, it's more expensive than traditional animation. It's just a lot faster and saves time which modern animation studios severally lack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:32:41 No.47052054 Report

Quoted By: >>47052085

if you want XY-like animation just watch the movies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:33:54 No.47052064 Report

Quoted By: >>47052131

SM really had some badly animated battles for the most part. I remember Ash VS Olivia was notoriously bad until the literal very end there was some super sakuga cut that came out of nowhere.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:35:02 No.47052069 Report

Quoted By: >>47052096 >>47052099

>>47052045
It worked well in the Greninja vs Sceptile fight thanks to the rather monotone and rocky battle field lending itself well 3D backgrounds.

A better example of it not working in open spaces is Greninja vs Gardevoir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:35:54 No.47052072 Report

Quoted By: >>47052102 >>47052108

Even many fillers in XY had animation sequences which can put to shame many key story episodes in SM and PM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYUztt39aZY
(Sorry for posting >dub but it is 2 AM and I do not have time to cut a clip myself).

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:37:53 No.47052085 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052054
Waiting for the Coco movie to come out

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:38:14 No.47052087 Report

Quoted By: >>47052237

>>47051916
Zapdos was up and about when it got knocked down by Boomburst, with no sign of slowing down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:38:25 No.47052091 Report

Quoted By: >>47052110

Reminder that XY had bad ratings and that's why they cut the budget which made SM look cheap by comparison

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:39:11 No.47052096 Report

Quoted By: >>47052108

>>47052069
There was literally nothing great in there outside of the split second where Tyrunt was concerned for Bonnie. The short battle with Dedenne and Bunnelby looked about as unimpressive as the average filler PM battle. What are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:39:18 No.47052099 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052069
>people still claim that Pikachu vs Topkek is the best battle in the anime
Greninja vs Sceptile and Greninja vs Charizard are miles above it. Topkek has just that one 360 degree shot which not a big deal (Iwane did shit like that for Ash vs Bertha battle in DP).

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:39:46 No.47052102 Report

Quoted By: >>47052114 >>47052139 >>47052150 >>47052174 >>47052244

>>47052072
Where did Eureka succeed there Max failed? I never hear people talking shit about her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:40:13 No.47052108 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052096
shit, meant for
>>47052072

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:40:19 No.47052110 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052091
>ratings
Take your meds.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:40:51 No.47052114 Report

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>>47052102
Eureka is based, incredibly funny, actual character arc, and a total troll with great reaction images

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:42:15 No.47052125 Report

Quoted By: >>47052164 >>47052200

>>47052052
>No, it's more expensive than traditional animation.
Tell that to Disney, Dreamworks, Capcom, SNK, Arc Sys and all studios that dropped traditional drawings and sprites in favor of 3D models.

People don't understand how much traditional drawings can cost at times. Cartoon episodes can cost millions of dollars that are only ever compensated through viewership, and in an industry that's so demanding of animation as Japan's, they just can't compensate for it anymore.

Disney dropped it because several films like Treasure Planet were a unable to compensate that money (although that also had a lot of self-sabotage involved, but that's neither here nor there). SNK dropped sprites because they were taking a toll in their dying budget (hence why some KOF XIII characters look oddly similar like Joe and Hwa Jai). Cartoon episodes can cost millions of dollars that are only ever compensated through viewership, and in an industry that's so demanding of animation as Japan's, they just can't compensate for it anymore.

You guys don't know jack shit about animation at all.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:43:18 No.47052131 Report

Quoted By: >>47052148

>>47052064
They messed up in the league as well not once but twice kek
You can see the storyboard outlines

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:43:55 No.47052139 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052102
Because she behaves like Ash would if he was a six years old girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:45:17 No.47052148 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052131
Soul

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:45:34 No.47052150 Report

Quoted By: >>47052171

>>47052102
>succeed
nips say she is the worst pokegirl
http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/198660/

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:48:05 No.47052164 Report

Quoted By: >>47052339 >>47052457

>>47052125
You know jack shit about the anime industry. Using fucking Disney as a comparison is completely fucking retarded. It looks completely different in Japan.

When you can get away with paying traditional animators literally slave wages while also being able to get away with shortcuts and inconsistent quality it sure as fuck becomes less expensive than hiring 3D animators and using 3D animation. 3D animation however takes less time which is why you see it in projects with big time constrains. The most popular recent example being season 4 of SnK.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:49:15 No.47052171 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052150
Because she is like a little sister to us, not a waifubait. Also she competed with Serena as an XY representative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:49:28 No.47052174 Report

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>>47052102
Max was a character the writers didn't have any plans for after early Hoenn. All his major eps happened in the first year including the Jirachi movie, then besides his worship for his father, they had nothing else to do with him until the Ralts episode, and then again nothing to do with him for all of BF.

I think the only reason Max wasn't written off after Hoenn is because they didn't want to change the AG cast mid-series even if he had no point in BF at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:52:33 No.47052200 Report

Quoted By: >>47052339

>>47052125
Not that anon but you're wrong and right at the same time. something like a 3D Cartoon would overall cost less than a 2D one because of the efficiency of reusing models and rendered backgrounds depending on the show (though I don't think a single 3D cartoon hasn't heavily reused either). A big budget 3D animation, like the ones you'd see in the theaters, definitely cost way, way more than the older 2D ones, even for inflation accounted for. Even just using the same company as your example of Treasure Planet, modern Disney Pixar movies like Frozen, Coco, and Wreck it Ralph 1 AND 2 had ones that are either estimate or confirmed higher.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:55:00 No.47052221 Report

Quoted By:

I Choose You verse Kanto tournament 25 episode spin off when?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:57:40 No.47052237 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052087
Did you watch the episode? It was literally falling to its doom which is why Ash tried to save it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:57:56 No.47052240 Report

Quoted By:

I hope the next movie isn't AU. I want to see this art style in movie quality

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:58:42 No.47052244 Report

Quoted By: >>47052444

>>47052102
Because Bonnie was Ash if he was a girl, which makes her based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:11:22 No.47052333 Report

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Bonnie and Clemont's VA still talk about the anime and how they liked being siblings, I hope they appear again even if we're getting Volkner and Luxray.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:12:00 No.47052339 Report

Quoted By: >>47052397 >>47052485

>>47052164
>"It looks completely different in Japan"
>dumbass forgets that I referred to several Japanese game studios that had to drop hand drawn sprites
If hand-drawn animation is so much less expensive, tell me why most game studios have dropped it. I'll wait.

>it sure as fuck becomes less expensive than hiring 3D animators and using 3D animation.
Because they aren't willing to take shortcuts with models either. Everyone already knows anime gets more income from Blu-Rays than TV viewership, so several studios pull off short cuts with episodes. Just look at DBS.

>>47052200
>Even just using the same company as your example of Treasure Planet, modern Disney Pixar movies like Frozen, Coco, and Wreck it Ralph 1 AND 2 had ones that are either estimate or confirmed higher.
Gee, it's almost like with technologies evolving, film studios become a lot more ambitious.

That said, I'll take the L and compare contemporaries for you: The Princess and the Frog (Disney's last traditionally animated film) had a 105 million budget, while Tangled (which came out a year later) had 260 million budget. I'll take it for sure, that's a lot more expensive. However, there's also cases where my point works, see Toys Story 2's 90 million vs Tarzan's whopping 130, and they're both from the same year.

However, the fact that Disney dropped traditional animation despite that huge difference in budget, shows how consuming the style is budget and time-wise, and why we don't see it as often anymore.

That's my main point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:23:00 No.47052397 Report

Quoted By: >>47052548 >>47052774

>>47052339
>If hand-drawn animation is so much less expensive, tell me why most game studios have dropped it. I'll wait
Because it's a completely different industry that base their cost evaluations on completely different parameters.

>Because they aren't willing to take shortcuts with models either.
They take shortcuts when they deem it necessary, like with projects with heavy time constrains. That shortcut is 3D animation despite it being more expensive.
>Everyone already knows anime gets more income from Blu-Rays than TV viewership, so several studios pull off short cuts with episodes. Just look at DBS.
That's besides the point entirely. The anime industry is an entirely different beast compared to the largely irrelevant comparisons you tried to draw. It's a industry deeply dependent on cost reductions just to get marginal profits. 3D animators are both more expensive and 3D animation is also often less desirable. That's why you either only see it used as a short cut or for projects from studios that solely do 3D animations.

Anime like One Punch Man or Mob Psycho 100 had cheap production costs despite being of such high quality and that's because traditional animators are extremely cheap to hire and they had unusually good time schedules. You will quickly see that anime that have to resort to 3D animations during some parts have higher production cost and that's because 3D animation is more expensive. Both to animate itself but also because 3D animators are both more educated and less in numbers than traditional ones in Japan.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:25:58 No.47052422 Report

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>>47051603
>while Ash was in Kalos gathering badges Iris was in Unova gathering badges and probably reaching top 8/4 in her first league
Iris could win her first league since the previous league champion was a guy with an Eevee team. Iris has multiple pseudo-legendaries, an undefeated Emolga, and a strong Excadrill. It's honestly not too unrealistic to assume that Iris stomped the likes of Cameron and the Eevee guy with ease. God, I would love to see Iris stomp the shit out of Cameron.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:25:58 No.47052423 Report

Quoted By: >>47052698

And I'm here.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:26:30 No.47052428 Report

Quoted By: >>47052432 >>47052459

I didn't like the battles in XY that much because the 3D backgrounds sometimes looked really ugly and because of the constant zooms and erratic camera work
I really liked the choreography but that's it

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:27:09 No.47052432 Report

Quoted By: >>47052448

>>47052428
Anybody can be a contrarian anon.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:28:54 No.47052444 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052244
>Because Bonnie was Ash if he was a girl
Iris fits the bill of being a female Ash too.
>Champion
>Has super strength
>Her main flaw is that she can be snarky, cocky, and even smug at times
>Iris has magical dragon powers kinda like how Ash has magical aura powers

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:29:08 No.47052448 Report

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>>47052432
I guess

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:31:05 No.47052457 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052164
>college student and part-timer above actual animators

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:31:14 No.47052459 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052428
I mean, other than a few segments at the very end of SM nothing compares to it. It's like saying you dislike all of the battles in the entire series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:35:39 No.47052485 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052339
>see Toys Story 2's 90 million vs Tarzan's whopping 130, and they're both from the same year.
A lot of that has to do with Phil Collins taking massive cut for making the soundtrack.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:35:50 No.47052488 Report

Quoted By: >>47052495 >>47052532 >>47052542

so now people like Iris, Ash worst companion by popular opinion, because she's the (jobber) champion and is also wearing her BW2 dress? Because her character development that should've happened in the BW series happened off-screen?

Man, you're all a bunch of dumb mankeys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:37:02 No.47052495 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052488
Nobody has said they outright like Iris here retard.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:38:34 No.47052510 Report

Quoted By:

I can't understand how someone can prefer speed lines over 3D backgrounds.
Even talking about ugliness, speed lines are an order of magnitude uglier

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:40:23 No.47052521 Report

Quoted By:

>BW Ash has a better win rate AND battled more than XY Ash
??????????

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:42:23 No.47052532 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052488
BW can be a bad season with Iris as a bad character still. It's just that, well, YEARS have passed. The 'Kid' joke was cheeky, she was fine a character here given how short the episode was, and it helps this also isn't retard-BW ash for contrast.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:43:44 No.47052541 Report

Quoted By:

I can't remember if I ever fought Brandon during my Emerald playthrough all those years ago.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:43:50 No.47052542 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052488
Ash himself was much worse than her

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:44:31 No.47052548 Report

Quoted By: >>47052638

>>47052397
>They take shortcuts when they deem it necessary,
I was referring to 3D anime.

>That's besides the point entirely.
It's not. All animation studios want is to get income and get back what they originally invested. TV ratings aren't exactly promising and you can't expect to have good animation in such a dying media.

>The anime industry is an entirely different beast compared to the largely irrelevant comparisons you tried to draw.
>comparing studios with people who have to spend hundreds of hours drawing to get very just a set of frames is "irrelevant"

>3D animation is often less desirable
When several of Japan's noticeable 3D works look like shit (Mewtwo remake and the DQ5 film for instance) and their own people would rather watch american films with the same animation method, I can't really say I blame them there.

>unusually good time schedules.
That isn't the norm.

>3D animation is more expensive. Both to animate itself
The entertainment industry wouldn't be in its actual shape if 3D were more expensive than 2D.

>also because 3D animators are both more educated and less in numbers than traditional ones in Japan.
This however, I can agree. Japan's entertainment industry is garbage. They're too reliant on making animations and pay people what most artists outside the country would consider a theft. It's a shocker that most people haven't become more demanding, but I can see why, when their live action and 3D outings are fucking dog shit, there's no point in protesting for better salaries, as they'd basically kill the anime industry.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:44:56 No.47052550 Report

Quoted By: >>47052591

Do the writers just not know who to write Gengar in battle for Ash? Like, are they shitting themselves because of how good Gengar is and how easy it is to just go ghost mode and win everything? He's barely appeared since he joined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:44:57 No.47052551 Report

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>>47048274
>n-nobody likes Misty but me? b-based
lmao.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:47:26 No.47052569 Report

Quoted By: >>47052637

I've been catching up with Journeys and have to ask
Where the fuck the Mime?
It used to appear sometimes cleaning the floor or something but I haven't seen it in ages

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:50:08 No.47052591 Report

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>>47052550
If the the long haired silhoutte woman is Sabrina, it would make sense for Ash to use Gengar against her. It would be a nice callback back to when Ash travelled to the haunted tower to capture a ghost pokemon to use against Sabrina, but never officially caught it and didn't battle with it either

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:56:35 No.47052637 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052569
He was last seen in Grookey's debut episode.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 01:56:42 No.47052638 Report

Quoted By:

>>47052548
>I was referring to 3D anime.
If you mean fully 3D ones they are relatively rare, have worse profit turn overs in comparison to their production costs.

>It's not. All animation studios want is to get income and get back what they originally invested. TV ratings aren't exactly promising and you can't expect to have good animation in such a dying media.
Which is heavily restrained when the realistic profits are low to begin with. Marginal profits is the best you can hope for outside extreme outliers which means keeping the production cost at a minimum which means taking as many shortcuts as possible which often means traditional animation with inconsistent quality unless the schedule is too demanding for that.

>comparing studios with people who have to spend hundreds of hours drawing to get very just a set of frames is "irrelevant"
Yes? They deal with entirely different profit prospects. The gaming industry have much higher average revenue than anime which gives it completely different priorities there taking the most cost reduced strategy is not necessarily a wise choice.

>That isn't the norm.
No, but it's the norm to try to suck it up as much as possible with traditional animators even if the quality suffers because it's simply the cheaper option and doesn't have any bigger effects on the potential revenue.

>The entertainment industry wouldn't be in its actual shape if 3D were more expensive than 2D.
Because you're ignoring a bunch of factors that makes the anime industry in comparison to western animation vastly different. Western 3D animation projects are more likely to be big projects, in a job market there there is a much big numbers of educated 3D animators than 2D and have higher revenues.

You seem to have a decent grasp on the western animation industry but that really can't be applied to the Japanese one, at least not as of yet. When you can drive down the biggest cost (workers) buy massive margin by using traditional animators you do it.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:00:36 No.47052657 Report

Quoted By: >>47052674 >>47052787

Iwane basically states the obvious.

https://mobile.twitter.com/animator1965/status/1390621179405209601

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:04:12 No.47052674 Report

Quoted By: >>47052697

>>47052657
If it was up to him, Alan and Paul would appear

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:05:52 No.47052685 Report

Quoted By: >>47052856

ENTER, the strongest trainer

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:07:39 No.47052693 Report

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>>47051603
Pokemon Chronicles should never have stopped honestly.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:08:38 No.47052697 Report

Quoted By: >>47052706

>>47052674
I know his words don’t mean much. But not every character showing up was obvious from the start.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:08:45 No.47052698 Report

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>>47052423
This battle was way more epic than it had any right to be.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:10:24 No.47052706 Report

Quoted By: >>47052737 >>47052762

>>47052697
Yeah but I don't thin he means Ash's companions but shit like Bugsy or Roark

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:12:40 No.47052720 Report

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If Serena comes back, I'll eat my hat. No way it happens imo

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:13:07 No.47052723 Report

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>>47049952
Yeah, Serena is to this day the ONLY companion who has yet to meet anyone outside of her XY circle of companions; if anything Iris should have returned way earlier in XY.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:14:39 No.47052737 Report

Quoted By: >>47052783

>>47052706
Meh, I think anyone is fair game.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:17:45 No.47052762 Report

Quoted By: >>47052783 >>47052797 >>47052835

>>47052706
>47052697
If they brought back fucking Chuck anybody can come back.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:19:10 No.47052774 Report

Quoted By: >>47052849

>>47052397
are you an idiot? CG animation is way cheaper. paying people to draw 24-30 pages for every second costs way more than making a model and then making it move. You think WIT made the colossal titan CG the moment they had to actually draw it moving for shits and giggles? You think UFOtable and Mappa flex CG endlessly because they don't like money? CG in anime is so fucking ubiquitous that you watched mob psycho and didn't even notice that they used CG.

2D animation
>a staff to keyframe,
>enough people to draw 43200 drawings to make those key frames move, usually a warehouse in korea
>have to hire someone to make sure there are no errors in the drawings as multiple people are drawing the same scene
>have to hire a particle effects artist
old anime didn't have long pauses, panning shots, stock backgrounds and animations to flex their budget.

3D
>guy to make models (single use)
>staff to keyframe
>staff to animate models (usually 20-30 guys)
and that's it.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:20:44 No.47052783 Report

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>>47052737
>>47052762
Neither Tracey nor Max are coming back, that much I can tell you.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:21:03 No.47052787 Report

Quoted By: >>47052806

>>47052657
>until the end
They're coming.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:22:43 No.47052796 Report

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So how is alola and unova champion bea taking the news that she is now the champion of two regions

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:22:43 No.47052797 Report

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>>47052762
Characters like Chuck are easy to bring back since they are just minor characters. Companions are harder because if they don’t have anything to do then it is just pointless.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:23:30 No.47052801 Report

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>>47051984
Surge, Sabrina and Minato. Cant figure out who the other guy is.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:23:55 No.47052806 Report

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>>47052787
I read the statement as in the end. What the point of being sad if they show up anyway?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:27:41 No.47052835 Report

Quoted By: >>47052922

>>47052762
Can't wait for Sneed, then.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:30:19 No.47052849 Report

Quoted By: >>47052902

>>47052774
Jesus christ retard, it's not hard to understand.

Traditional animators are A LOT cheaper to hire than 3D animators and are A LOT more plenty full. The biggest cost BY FAR is the production cost that goes towards the staff itself. If you're able to reduce that significantly it will out way and reduction cost benefits from 3D animation.
>You think WIT made the colossal titan CG the moment they had to actually draw it moving for shits and giggles?
No, they made it because big moving objects is notoriously difficult and time consuming to animate and WIT had absolute garbage time schedules to work on. MAPPA does it because they work with shit tier time schedules to produce as much as possible and because of that has an unusual amount of in house CG animators instead of freelancers. UFOtable does it because they are chosen to specialize in it and that gamble clearly payed off. Not because they wanted to reduce cost as much as possible.
>CG in anime is so fucking ubiquitous that you watched mob psycho and didn't even notice that they used CG.
The amount of CG in Mob Psycho was little and most restricted to effects related to the psychic powers and not FUCKING MODULES. It's an entirely different matter.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:31:30 No.47052856 Report

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>>47052685
>Lost to a child and her legendary

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:33:51 No.47052869 Report

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someone explain why so many of Netflix anime use CGI. It is because Netflix offers any random studio to do anime and they can't say no even if they are busy as fuck?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:35:37 No.47052878 Report

Quoted By: >>47052881 >>47052883

Some time ago, I heard someone say that they can never bring back May because her VA is too expensive. Is this true?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:36:27 No.47052881 Report

Quoted By: >>47052896

>>47052878
no, it's because her VA can't talk anymore

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:36:51 No.47052883 Report

Quoted By: >>47052896 >>47052897

>>47052878
We have been over this a fucking million of time, S****

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:37:54 No.47052893 Report

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Can we all agree that XY/Z fags are one of the only things that keep /padt/ alive?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:38:11 No.47052896 Report

Quoted By: >>47052900

>>47052881
What?
>>47052883
Can't even mention a character's name without someone bringing up this stale meme

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:38:19 No.47052897 Report

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>>47052883
That's not me.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:38:47 No.47052900 Report

Quoted By: >>47052956

>>47052896
She has throat aids

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:39:06 No.47052902 Report

Quoted By: >>47052921 >>47052964

>>47052849
>Traditional animators are A LOT cheaper to hire than 3D animators and are A LOT more plenty full.
Okay, so luckily you made your retard point in the beginning instead of the end so I can skip the rest of the post.
>2D animators are more plentiful
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE OF THEM. CGi artists get paid more because you only need to pay 10 and you get more output. 2D artists get paid less because you have to pay 1000 of them and you still get less output. that's why they've been phasing out 2D jobs like background artists, animation houses, etc.

Hence, you literally just solved why 2D is more expensive than 3D in your first sentence. Thanks ESL.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:43:10 No.47052921 Report

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>>47052902
lol, I'm imagining him working at a company.
>What! these machines are so expensive! we should keep our 1000 workers!
>but boss, we don't have to spend as much on the machines as we do yearly saleries
>but machine cost money so machine more expensive!
How someone can have no concept of value is insane. Wouldn't be surprised if he was the type to hate Serena.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:43:37 No.47052922 Report

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>>47052835

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:45:00 No.47052931 Report

Quoted By: >>47052940

>>47051222
Is there going to be a Koharu PM! Gals, I wonder?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:45:50 No.47052940 Report

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>>47052931
He hasn't done a new doujin since covid shut-down comiket last year. Maybe he'll do a new one this year

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:48:34 No.47052956 Report

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>>47052900
This and May doesn't really offer the series much. Dawn does a lot of stuff she does and has a mascot Pokemon to shill to boot.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:49:53 No.47052964 Report

Quoted By: >>47052973 >>47053017

>>47052902
Jesus fuck you're retarded. Do you not know how the fucking job market works? The animation studios have access to unlimited freelancer slaves that you can pay literal pennies. CG animators are a lot more expensive, a lot harder to come by and the talent don't move towards the animation industry but the other industries like the game or software development that pays a lot better than any animation studio could.

Again, cost reduction in staff is the best way you can reduce costs overall. CG is not the way forward until CG animators because more plentiful, cheaper and willing to work in the anime industry.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:50:55 No.47052973 Report

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>>47052964
becomes*

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:51:44 No.47052984 Report

Quoted By: >>47052991

It doesn't take a genius to realize that speed lines are cheaper than 3D backgrounds, what are you people even arguing about?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:52:51 No.47052991 Report

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>>47052984
Blame the subhuman mutt that think he can apply the western animation industry to the Japanese one.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 02:55:57 No.47053017 Report

Quoted By: >>47053057

>>47052964
>unlimited freelancer slaves that you can pay literal pennies
alright, thanks for making your retard point early again. Okay, I think all the big words are confusing you. here's an even simpler way of putting it.

Which one costs less

Paying 300 people .1 for 5 weeks

or

paying 5 people 10 dollars for 3 weeks

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:03:55 No.47053057 Report

Quoted By: >>47053103 >>47053113

>>47053017
>300 vs 5
Thanks for proving that you know absolutely nothing about the japanese animation industry. If you think your average anime will have 300 fucking animators or the average CG anime having fucking 5 you're a genuine retarded. Why do you larp like you know anything about the industry?

In its current form for a vast amount of factors that I have already pointed out CG animation is mostly used to buying time or for effects because animating CG effect is simple and relatively cheap. You're not going to go full CG to reduce cost.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:11:33 No.47053103 Report

Quoted By: >>47053155

>>47053057
>moving the goalpost because the analogy would force you to reveal your flawed reasoning

Lol, if your only argument is "I know the industry" then you've lost. the only thing you know about the industry is that old, out of date, out of context joke graph from shirobako.

you honestly base your entire perception of the anime industry on a joke from an anime from 2014. You're a clown.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:13:02 No.47053113 Report

Quoted By: >>47053155

>>47053057
>If you think your average anime will have 300 fucking animators or the average CG anime having fucking 5
>he took the number literally without a hint of self awareness
Someone took the short bus to school.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:14:06 No.47053125 Report

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>>47053121
>>47053121
>>47053121

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:19:27 No.47053155 Report

Quoted By: >>47053210 >>47053252

>>47053103
>literally no fucking counter argument
I accept your concession then. Maybe learn to understand how a fucking job market works you subhuman mutt.

>>47053113
Of course I would, even knowing it was a hyperbole the actual difference wouldn't even close to that big making your entire fucking point null.

Here's an easy example a retard like you might understand.

If you have the ability to hire 50 animators with from a massive employee market with a decent average talent across the board that are willing to work for wage slave wages based on their work effort (like a set wage per X amount of frames created)

or

20 workers for a severally limited employee market that can demand higher wages based on more costly wage plan like time put in there the average talent is low because all the real talent work in more lucrative industries

which one would be the cheapest?

Pro tip mutt: It's not the second one.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:33:12 No.47053210 Report

Quoted By: >>47053232

>>47053155
>still moving the goalpost
My counter argument was provide literally anything about the industry that you know that's not built that graph. Your knowledge of the industry is literally a joke, you've proved that. where's your counter argument?

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:36:22 No.47053232 Report

Quoted By: >>47053286

>>47053210
>literally not a single counter argument
>"y-you don't know anything because I say so, you're w-wrong!!"
>completely ignores what I actually wrote
>doesn't know what "moving the goalpost" actually means when you're literally doing just that by ignoring my points and going of on a tangent
This is getting fucking pathetic. Don't talk about shit you know nothing about. It's that fucking simple you subhuman mutt.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:40:57 No.47053252 Report

Quoted By: >>47053286 >>47053295 >>47053302

>>47053155

>(like a set wage per X amount of frames created)
Are you an idiot? animators get paid a salary XD. You have to pay them all the same. You've fucked up again

so, Lets use your example

the lowest wage an animator earns is $40,870

you just spent 2 million US$ on animation.

pay those 20 CG animators the american wage (higher than average) 85,857$ then you've just spent 1.7 million

Which one is smaller anon?

2 million or 1.7 million

You proved yourself wrong XD

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:46:57 No.47053286 Report

Quoted By: >>47053302

>>47053232
ooof, counter argument this >>47053252

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:48:42 No.47053295 Report

Quoted By: >>47053490

>>47053252
Freelancer and even most in house animator wages are not based on fucking time or set wages you retarded mutt. Only studios like Kyoani does and rightfully gets praise for that.

Most wages are based on some form of system based on the work done by the animator. A few years ago you might have earned 100 yen every frame. Nowadays because the job market it's so sutured you can get away with 100 yen for every six frame created. Do you understand? Workers are getting cheaper and cheaper but everything else stay the same.

>the lowest wage an animator earns is $40,870
Are you using fucking mutt data? We're talking about salaries not exceeding a few hundred dollars a fucking month.

Let's use my example again

50 animators for an average of 350 dollars a month that will deliver a decent quality product vs 20 CG animators for an average of 2000 dollars that will deliver a less than decent quality product that will also need more costly equipment to both buy and operate.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 03:49:48 No.47053302 Report

Quoted By: >>47053468 >>47053500

>>47053252
>>47053286
>I-I was only PRETENDING to be retarded
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHA

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 04:21:45 No.47053468 Report

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>>47053302
You've already agreed with me with your math. I won.

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 04:24:52 No.47053490 Report

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>>47053295
>deleted the post when he realized he failed at math
lol.
>he's applying freelancers, who are exclusively key animators to all the animators, the bulk of which are inbetweeners
>he doesn't know what an inbetweener is because he got all of his knowledge of the industry from a joke
lmaoooooo

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Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 04:26:34 No.47053500 Report

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>>47053302
Anon, you forgot your argument.

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