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Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:51:12 No.47229786 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47229809 >>47229893 >>47230827 >>47231038 >>47231101 >>47231140 >>47231257 >>47231370 >>47231608 >>47231903 >>47232721 >>47233205

>kanto has a professor who gives you a grass/fire/water starter so suddenly every region needs to have a professor grass/fire/water starters like KANTOOOOOO
>kanto has 8 badges so suddenly every region needs to have 8 badges like KANTOOOOOO
>kanto has a victory road so suddenly every region needs to have a victory road like KANTOOOOOO
>kanto has an elite four so suddenly every region needs to have an elite four like KANTOOOOOO
>kanto has a secret champion you have to beat after the elite four so suddenly every region needs to have a secret champion to beat after the elite four like KANTOOOOOO
>kanto has team bad guy so suddenly every region needs to have team bad guy like KANTOOOOOO

Why does this franchise have such lazily writing and worldbuilding? Gens 3-6 especially.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:51:49 No.47229791 Report

Quoted By: >>47231903

hey, if it works

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 21:53:54 No.47229809 Report

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>>47229786
Gens 1-4 are all poke-japan so really it's everywhere else with funny worldbuilding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:04:23 No.47229893 Report

Quoted By: >>47231011 >>47231113 >>47231133 >>47232958

>>47229786
>prof with grass/fire/water starters
They're the only types other than Rock/Flying/Fighting that make a perfect circle so this is just done out of ease
>8 badges
Yeah I never really got why it has to be 8 specifically. 10 or 12 would be a lot nicer and shows off more typings
>victory road
Kinda just an easy way to challenge the player before the e4 and champ
>e4 and champ
Gotta have a final boss
>bad guy
Gotta have a story that includes conflict otherwise it isn't interesting to most audiences

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:52:00 No.47230827 Report

Quoted By: >>47231402

>>47229786
what the fuck do you mean 'suddenly' kanto was the first game
you make it sound like kanto came in like gen 5, did these things, and then every other region was retconned into this stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:13:46 No.47231011 Report

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>>47229893
>They're the only types other than Rock/Flying/Fighting that make a perfect circle so this is just done out of ease

He's talking about how in Gen 1, those just happened to be the only 3 Pokemon Oak had left, then suddenly giving out Grass/Fire/Water starters is a rule that every Professor in every region follows

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:17:56 No.47231038 Report

Quoted By: >>47231394 >>47231768

>>47229786
>Super Mario Bros. has pipes Mario can jump on or go into so suddenly every Mario game needs to have pipes serving as platforms or transitions
This is how retarded you sound

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:28:30 No.47231101 Report

Quoted By: >>47231174 >>47231402

>>47229786
The fuck do you mean "suddenly"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:29:44 No.47231113 Report

Quoted By: >>47231227 >>47232958

>>47229893
>Rock/Flying/Fighting
does not make a perfect circle. fire/grass/water is also NVE in the opposite direction, which your trio does not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:33:03 No.47231133 Report

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>>47229893
>Yeah I never really got why it has to be 8 specifically.
If they lowered the bar people would complain about less content and if they raised it. they'd be raising the standard which would mean more work each gen. Basically, they want to be lazy but not too lazy that people call them out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:34:05 No.47231140 Report

Quoted By: >>47231402

>>47229786
>suddenly
>suddenly
>suddenly
>suddenly
>suddenly
>suddenly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:40:45 No.47231174 Report

Quoted By: >>47231190

>>47231101
Oak in the original games:

>There are 3 Pokémon here! Haha! They are inside the Poké Balls. When I was young, I was a serious Pokémon trainer! In my old age, I have only 3 left, but you can have one! Choose!

He was just giving you and Blue each of his last three Pokemon. Narrative-wise, them being Grass/Fire/Water was just a coincidence.

Then the anime comes along and makes it so that Professors in all regions are provided Grass/Fire/Water starter Pokemon from breeding facilities to give out to new trainers. Something was originally just a coincidence was retconned into a rule that every region follows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:43:14 No.47231190 Report

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>>47231174
Because it's the most obvious and simple way to teach new players about type matchups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:48:42 No.47231227 Report

Quoted By: >>47231351

>>47231113
But it is resisted in the opposite direction
>Flying resists Fighting
>Fighting resists Rock
>Rock resists Flying
It works offensively, too
>Flying is super effective against Fighting
>Fighting is super effective against Rock
>Rock is super effective against Flying

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Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:52:18 No.47231257 Report

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>>47229786
>gras/fire/water trio
Nothing wrong with this
>8 badges
Again nothing really wrong with this but it would be nice for Pokemon to do something else with the formula.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 01:03:46 No.47231351 Report

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>>47231227
Don’t forget
poison > grass > ground
steel > rock > fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 01:06:04 No.47231370 Report

Quoted By: >>47231402

>>47229786
>suddenly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 01:08:35 No.47231394 Report

Quoted By: >>47233015

>>47231038
But there aren’t pipes serving as transitions in every Mario game. Great job proving OP’s point lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 01:09:55 No.47231402 Report

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>>47230827
>>47231101
>>47231140
>>47231370
ESL retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 01:46:58 No.47231608 Report

Quoted By: >>47231617

>>47229786
>kanto has Pokemon so other games need Pokemon like KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>kanto was on a portable system so all games needed to be on a portable system like KANTOOOOOOOOOOOO

Is Sword and Shield the most based for being unKANTOOOOOOOOOOO?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 01:48:15 No.47231617 Report

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>>47231608
>species that exist in the world = every single region conveniently having the exact same writing tropes as KANTOOOOOOOO
nice seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 02:13:03 No.47231768 Report

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>>47231038
Poor analogy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 02:31:20 No.47231903 Report

Quoted By: >>47232350

>>47229786
That isn't bad world building. That's just the League format, and like >>47229791 said, it works. When they replaced Gym Leaders with trials and everyone started talking about how that was so different and innovative it was cringe, since they're effectively the same thing, just slightly more complex (and probably easier) than Gym Battles.

>Gens 3-6
Nah, Gen 3, 4, and 6 did a lot to expand the world's lore. I would say that they have good worldbuilding, just maybe not on par with the first two. 5 tried to capitalize off of the worldbuilding of the previous generations; outside of introducing us to a new nation, I don't think it did much for the worldbuilding. It should have done more, much more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 03:53:55 No.47232350 Report

Quoted By: >>47232414 >>47232431 >>47233300

>>47231903
>every region conveniently has the exact same league format with a cave right next to it
>every region conveniently has no one who talks about who the champion is because it's le ebin surprise for the player just like KANTOOOO even though in KANTOOOOO it actually made sense because there was no champion until Blue beat the E4
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:04:01 No.47232414 Report

Quoted By: >>47232417

>>47232350
Excuse GF for wanting to endear you to a character before telling you they're strong, as opposed to shilling their meager strength like with Leon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:04:43 No.47232417 Report

Quoted By: >>47232423

>>47232414
yeah I sure was endeared by cynthia having about as much personality as a piece of cardboard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:05:38 No.47232423 Report

Quoted By: >>47232437

>>47232417
Cynthia is pretty cool, so I'm going to stop responding to you now because no amount of positive qualities I list will ever get you to stop lying. God, /vp/ is dogshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:08:03 No.47232431 Report

Quoted By: >>47232437

>>47232350
>>every region conveniently has no one who talks about who the champion is because it's le ebin surprise
It's never treated like a surprise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:09:05 No.47232437 Report

Quoted By: >>47232448 >>47232964

>>47232423
Literally go reread all of Cynthia's lines. All of them are either exposition, handing you an item for no real reason, or sucking your cock.

>>47232431
Yes it is. The only time it isn't treated as surprise is BW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:11:33 No.47232448 Report

Quoted By: >>47232475

>>47232437
Explain how it's a surprise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:14:47 No.47232475 Report

Quoted By: >>47232507

>>47232448
The fact that they're sitting there after the E4 with no mention or foreshadowing of them at all while the entire time the game acts as if you only have to defeat the E4. It's very cheap attempt at copying KANTOOOOOO having the twist of fighting Blue at the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:20:29 No.47232507 Report

Quoted By: >>47232516

>>47232475
>the entire time the game acts as if you only have to defeat the E4
No it does not. When is this ever implied outside of Kanto? You have to fight the champion Lance in gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:22:04 No.47232516 Report

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>>47232507
>When is this ever implied outside of Kanto
The fact that they're called the "Elite Four" at all instead of the "Elite Five" implies it. In Kanto the "Elite Four" actually made sense because there actually WERE only 4 of them until Blue beat them right before you. But then every game had to go and lazily copy Kanto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:53:14 No.47232721 Report

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>>47229786
Tell me what you would do instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 05:33:39 No.47232958 Report

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>>47231113
You should really fact check yourself before spouting nonsense. Rock/Flying/Fighting works just as well as Grass/Water/Fire. SE in one direction at each step, NVE in the opposite direction. Works for both.
>>47229893
>They're the only types other than Rock/Flying/Fighting that make a perfect circle so this is just done out of ease
No there’s two others
>Grass/Ground/Poison
>Fire/Steel/Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 05:34:45 No.47232964 Report

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>>47232437
>sucking your cock.
God I want Cynthia to suck my cock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 05:46:22 No.47233015 Report

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>>47231394
There aren't gym leaders, secret champions, victory roads, or elite fours in every region either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:26:32 No.47233205 Report

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>>47229786
Japanese companies always get lazy when they get a successful brand
They don't try to innovate or be creative, they just rely on nostalgia and Twitter to make games now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:52:06 No.47233300 Report

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>>47232350
Thats why gen8 is the best because everyone knows Leon is the strongest champion :)

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