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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:23:02 No.47533072 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47533159 >>47533196 >>47533294 >>47535185

How do we fix slow, defensive Ice-Types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:23:27 No.47533074 Report

Quoted By: >>47533096

try playing the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:27:45 No.47533096 Report

Quoted By: >>47533131

>>47533074
I play the game enough to know the vast majority of Ice-Type Pokemon suck balls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:31:36 No.47533112 Report

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Ice being shit wouldn't be a problem if Game Freak actually cared about (actual) balancing and not the "let's make this Pokémon we want popular OP and make this Pokémon we want to be unpopular shit to balance it out" kind of balancing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:35:30 No.47533131 Report

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>>47533096
the vast majority of every type sucks balls.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:36:59 No.47533138 Report

Quoted By: >>47533223 >>47534363

Ice resists Ground, Flying, and Dragon.
There Ice pokemon are fixed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:37:26 No.47533139 Report

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Prease understandu yoo should yoouse Cinderace and Dracovish instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:40:35 No.47533159 Report

Quoted By: >>47533174 >>47533208 >>47534344

>>47533072
>Hail increases SpDef by 1.5 for Ice types
>Ice resists Flying and Ground
>Ice types moves have an increased chance to freeze if used by an Ice type, for this to be balanced freeze is reworked to have a limit of two turns)
>Stealth Rocks does half damage to grounded Pokémon (Bug/Ice would only take 25%, Ice only 12.5%, ungrounded Pokémon are immune to every other hazard already so this fair)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:41:49 No.47533167 Report

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>>47533131
The vast majority of your mom sucks balls

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:42:52 No.47533174 Report

Quoted By: >>47533214

>>47533159
>SpDef
>not Def

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:46:35 No.47533196 Report

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>>47533072
by using them in Trick Room teams. Yeah, trick room hail stall!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:48:42 No.47533208 Report

Quoted By: >>47533213

>>47533159
>Hail increases SpDef by 1.5 for Ice types
Hail should increase Defense, not Special Defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:49:42 No.47533213 Report

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>>47533208
Also, Stealth Rocks should no longer do any type-based damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:49:43 No.47533214 Report

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>>47533174
lol that was a typo, I mean defense but I was thinking about the SpDef increase rock types got in sandstorm

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:50:45 No.47533223 Report

Quoted By: >>47533234 >>47533276 >>47535238

>>47533138
>making ice resist a type that already has a type immune to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:52:35 No.47533234 Report

Quoted By: >>47533247

>>47533223
Reptiles avoid cold places.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:54:14 No.47533247 Report

Quoted By: >>47533262

>>47533234
Dragon is already weak to Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:57:21 No.47533262 Report

Quoted By: >>47533265

>>47533247
So? It's not like Ice resisting Dragon would cause any harm. Keep in mind that Dragon-type Pokémon usually have moves that are super effective against Ice, and some have STAB on said moves as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 06:58:06 No.47533265 Report

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>>47533262
Dragon doesn't need to be any worse. Fairy was enough to nerf Dragon

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:00:24 No.47533276 Report

Quoted By: >>47533283

>>47533223
Damn right.
Fairy is retarded and gen 4 was the last real gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:02:08 No.47533283 Report

Quoted By: >>47533288

>>47533276
Fairy was introduced in Gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:02:27 No.47533285 Report

Quoted By: >>47533306

>>47533265
Yes, because a Garchomp not being able to OHKO an Ice-type Pokémon with a +2 Outrage after a Swords Dance would ruin the VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:02:41 No.47533288 Report

Quoted By: >>47533301

>>47533283
Yeah but gen 5 is abysmal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:04:03 No.47533294 Report

Quoted By: >>47533304 >>47533341

>>47533072
Make snow weather that slows down non ice types and give ice attacks +10% to freeze
Make icy terrain that slows down non ice types and protects from burns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:05:43 No.47533301 Report

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>>47533288
Your mom's abysmal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:06:35 No.47533304 Report

Quoted By: >>47533314 >>47533341

>>47533294
>Make snow weather that slows down non ice types and give ice attacks +10% to freeze
So... just buff Snow Warning?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:06:45 No.47533306 Report

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>>47533285
Outrage isn't used in VGC, you retard faggot retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:09:24 No.47533314 Report

Quoted By: >>47533341

>>47533304
Yes snow warning would make snow weather.
The hail would still be a thing and Glalie and Cryogonal could get the "Hail Warning"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:14:36 No.47533341 Report

Quoted By: >>47533355 >>47533409

>>47533294
>>47533304
>>47533314
Retarded idea. Just make Hail better

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:16:56 No.47533355 Report

Quoted By: >>47534288

>>47533341
What the fuck do you think Snow Warning does you dumbass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 07:23:40 No.47533409 Report

Quoted By: >>47534288

>>47533341
Hail is much more stupid

Thankful4Thickness

Thankful4Thickness Sat 03 Jul 2021 12:06:35 No.47534269 Report

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Make Hail give 1.5x Def and sp.def to Ice types, make Ice and Fire neutral to each other, make Ice super effective to water, resistant to electric, make Rock neutral to Ice, and have Ice resist Grass, flying, ground and dragon. Maybe that will do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 12:10:52 No.47534288 Report

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>>47533355
>>47533409
Ice doesn't need anymore weathers or terrains or any other bullshit like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 12:26:53 No.47534344 Report

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>>47533159
>ungrounded Pokémon
Like

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 12:33:06 No.47534363 Report

Quoted By: >>47535250

>>47533138
Ice doesn't need resistances. It needs less weaknesses.
Although I do agree with a Flying resistance, those are needed atm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 15:31:07 No.47535185 Report

Quoted By: >>47535367

>>47533072
Make one super min-maxxed stats, a great and deep movepool, and Moxie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 15:40:33 No.47535238 Report

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>>47533223
Tell that to electric types and normal types who face immunities and have 2+ more that resist them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 15:42:51 No.47535250 Report

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>>47534363
>A type with only one resistance doesn't need anymore resistances
Based retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 16:03:33 No.47535367 Report

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>>47535185
Fix the already-existing Ice-Types, you pussy

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