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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 11:49:52 No.50171739 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>50171845 >>50171946 >>50172517 >>50172703 >>50172757 >>50174879 >>50174978 >>50175251 >>50176459 >>50178480 >>50181262

How will you guys buff untiered, ZU, PU, and NU pokemons? Provide either:
>type change: Electivire to Electric/Fighting
>move addition/change: Freeze Shock and Ice Burn does not require charge anymore
>ability addition/change: Air lock disabling weaither summon as long as active
>hard mode: no megas or gimmicky abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:14:35 No.50171845 Report

Quoted By: >>50171852

>>50171739
>>50171739
>Altaria
>Dragon/Fairy
>added WIsh, Calm Mind and Wish
>just give Pixilate to the third evo or something idk maybe Serene Grace

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:15:50 No.50171852 Report

Quoted By: >>50171866

>>50171845
It can have Wish TWO times?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:21:20 No.50171866 Report

Quoted By: >>50171871 >>50171955

>>50171852
Yes, wish wish and wish. I just need it to have Wish man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:22:48 No.50171871 Report

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>>50171866
Yeah, you're right. Wish is so good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:26:23 No.50171883 Report

Quoted By: >>50171906

For Aurorus I would:
- buff Rock and Ice defensively
- Give it Power Gem
- Take 20 points away from Attack and put 10 towards Special Attack and 10 towards Special Defense
- Take 20 points away from Speed and put it towards Defense (becomes better in Trick Room)
- Snow Warning becomes its second normal ability while the new Hidden Ability sets up Aurora Veil

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:31:26 No.50171906 Report

Quoted By: >>50171965

>>50171883
>buff Rock and Ice defensively
Ice being resistant to Water and Flying would buff Aurorus immensely. I dont get why people are saying that Ice is like the glass cannon type when most pokemon that had it are bulky and defensive. GF definitely isnt aware nor did intended ice to be offensive for them to keep fucking it up.
>hidden ability sets up Aurora Veil
oh i forgot that mon doesnt get Aurora Veil. wtf is wrong with GF?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:41:31 No.50171946 Report

Quoted By: >>50171968

>>50171739
>Sceptile
Swap its Atk and SpAtk stats.
Add an extra +5 to Atk, bringing base total to 110.
Give Sucker Punch and Extremespeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:43:10 No.50171955 Report

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>>50171866
I wish this was true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:43:50 No.50171957 Report

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Give them +100 speed and attack when they fight outside their tier. fucking fantasy league

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:45:57 No.50171965 Report

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>>50171906
>oh i forgot that mon doesnt get Aurora Veil. wtf is wrong with GF?
It does now as an egg move.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:46:10 No.50171968 Report

Quoted By: >>50171981

>>50171946
Now that I think about it, maybe swapping out Unburden? What sounds more fitting for Sceptile?
>Unburden + Berry w/ access to Belly Drum
>Adaptability to make use of wide attack pool
>Protean/Libero

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 12:48:18 No.50171981 Report

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>>50171968
Unburden for me. Adaptability and another Protean user for starter is just not creative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 14:48:22 No.50172517 Report

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>>50171739
Sceptile
Grass/Rock or Grass/Fighting
Power Whip, Wooden Hammer, Stone Edge or CC.
HA changed to either Grassy Surge or Natural Cure.
Give 40 Sp.A to Atk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 15:31:20 No.50172703 Report

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>>50171739
>Froslass
>give it technician

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 15:40:27 No.50172757 Report

Quoted By: >>50176546

>>50171739
To Froslass, give +10 to HP and DEF. Makes no sense why she gets 480 stats total while Glalie gets 500.

Give it a new ability Rock Freeze, which makes Ice moves superefficient against Rocks and make the user immune to it and Stealth Rocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 20:17:25 No.50174879 Report

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>>50171739
Electvire: (indirect buff) Wild Charge now has 120BP, since all it needs is good STAB (and also helps a lot of other mons, including staples like Klinklang and Rapidash)

Silvally-*: Memories now give a 20% type boost on top of changing types (just like Plates)

Regigigas: Slow Start lowers stats by 30% instead of 50%, OR turn count doesn't reset upon switching out

Falinks: No Retreat has +1 priority

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 20:28:23 No.50174978 Report

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>>50171739
>Grass/dragon
>Swap its attack and special attack
>Swap Unburden for Technician
>Give it scale shot

And just to be cheeky
>-5 SpA/+5 speed
So it can be the fastest base form starter once again.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 20:35:06 No.50175034 Report

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>Replace shell armor with rock head
>Give it shell smash and head smash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 20:43:07 No.50175099 Report

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>Fire/ground
>Replace flash fire with drought
>New stat distribution : 88/74/68/119/85/100
>Gets earth power

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 21:01:03 No.50175251 Report

Quoted By: >>50175563

>>50171739
Make ice resist water

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 21:39:42 No.50175563 Report

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>>50175251
>Nerfing gamefreak favorite type
Lmao you wish

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 22:53:59 No.50176194 Report

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>Greedent
gains Recycle and Natural Gift, +15 Sp.Def (75 -> 90)
>Boltund
new ability spread of Strong Jaw/Competitive/Defiant, gains Flamethrower, Overheat, Dazzling Gleam, Mud Shot, Extremespeed, Quick Attack, Nuzzle, +15 Atk and Sp. Atk (90 -> 105)
>Dubwool
Gains Slack Off, Throat Chop, Horn Leech, and Megahorn, +10 HP (72 -> 82)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 23:24:16 No.50176459 Report

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>>50171739
Electivire just needs Plasma Fists honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 23:32:39 No.50176546 Report

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>>50172757
Glalie has 480. The only split evos with differing bsts are Poliwrath/Politoed.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 03:03:02 No.50178480 Report

Quoted By: >>50178868

>>50171739
Went to look for a 'mon to suggest, and I just gotta say.. there are a lot of Pokemon on this list that should not be untiered. What the fuck did SwSh do to comp?

Anyway, Leafeon's on this list and I'm biased so:
Stats: 65/110/130/60/65/95 -> 65/130/95/60/65/110
Ability: Leaf Guard -> Grassy Terrain
Moves: Grassy Glide, U-Turn, Double-Kick
Move changes: Double-Kick's power now 60 for 120 with both hits.

Oh and one more thing just out of spite for GameFreak ruining a kickass move: Blaze Kick: Accuracy now 100, Crit ratio dropped, Power now 95

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 03:42:44 No.50178868 Report

Quoted By: >>50180838

>>50178480
>What the fuck did SwSh do to comp?
- raped the movepools of many Grass-type Pokémon
- increased distribution of Close Combat
- balanced the meta by bringing back Garchomp and Landorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 11:38:37 No.50180838 Report

Quoted By: >>50180845 >>50180864 >>50180939

>>50178868
Dont forget GF's bastardixation of Poison and Ice where they gave most of their movepool to mons that didnt deserve it. Everyone has toxic and ice beam now that what even is the point of using Poison and Ice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 11:42:12 No.50180845 Report

Quoted By: >>50180863 >>50181250

>>50180838
thats the thing, GF literally tried to fix this in SWSH by making mostly only poison pokemon learn toxic for example, and toxic is not allowed on most mons for competitive play, but since those mons can technically still have toxic on their moveset, smogon in their infinite wisdom chose to just let them keep it and use it competitively

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 11:48:05 No.50180863 Report

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>>50180845
Are you talking about NatDex? I just wish that in next gen, they'd just make Ice and Poison moves (as well sa annoying Grass moves) exclusive to their type mons to shake and balance things out. Massive nerf in general but deserved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 11:48:08 No.50180864 Report

Quoted By: >>50180871

>>50180838
>Dont forget GF's bastardixation of Poison and Ice where they gave most of their movepool to mons that didnt deserve it.
That's not new for ice type. Every water type and their mother were already learning ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 11:49:39 No.50180871 Report

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>>50180864
A snowstorm mustve strucked GF's office in the past for them to hate the type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 12:03:54 No.50180939 Report

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>>50180838
>Everyone has toxic
Outside of it being a transfer-only move for Pokemon that don't have the Poison typing, Toxic is exclusive to Poison-type Pokemon in SWSH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 13:20:38 No.50181250 Report

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>>50180845
GF made it so most pokemon can't learn Toxic anymore, but you can still transfer from previous games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 13:23:24 No.50181262 Report

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>>50171739
Give Type:Null recover and it'd become a legitimate choice over Porygon2.

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