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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:18:32 No.50371277 View View Reply Original Report

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Power Couple Edition

>Livestream link (Fridays @ 9:55 AM UTC):
https://mov3.co/tvtokyo
https://www.twitch.tv/pokekalos

>Latest episode:
https://nyaa.si/view/1521885 (1080p)
https://nyaa.si/view/1521884 (720p)

Next episode:
>PM2019 110 - The Traitorous Battle Royal! (May 13th)
https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pocketmonster/episodes/

Future episodes:
>TBA

>Summaries, voice cast, etc.:
https://pastebin.com/pRWCDSsU

>Upcoming episodes previews:
https://twitter.com/anipoke_PR/status/1509848045621772291
https://twitter.com/anipoke_PR/status/1517449634213687296

>Previous episodes:
https://pastebin.com/CGSd907r

>Pokémon Twilight Wings, PokéToons, and Pokémon Evolutions subs:
https://pastebin.com/gkJSXkbL

>Movies:
https://pastebin.com/aftNceDW

>M23: Coco:
https://nyaa.si/view/1418317 (1080p)
https://nyaa.si/view/1418316 (720p)

>Specials and Audio Dramas:
https://pastebin.com/BM8SC2zU

>Music, manga, and more:
https://pastebin.com/gXfZtrrJ

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:20:37 No.50371286 Report

Quoted By: >>50371301 >>50371308 >>50371475

Ash x Dawn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:22:34 No.50371294 Report

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:25:36 No.50371301 Report

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>>50371286
I want Dawn to tease me.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:25:46 No.50371303 Report

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Ash x Goh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:27:05 No.50371306 Report

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>>50371303
Goh is touching Ash's no no place?!

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:27:23 No.50371308 Report

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>>50371286
Based
>>50371277
Looks like they changed both, gengar and dragonite's movesets.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:29:53 No.50371312 Report

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>You will never be welcomed home by an inexperienced housewife, Manon
It hurts bros. It hurts so fucking much

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:32:44 No.50371319 Report

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wife

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:35:40 No.50371324 Report

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>>50371306
Yeah, and Ash likes that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:39:11 No.50371331 Report

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>>50371215
>pretend to like
XY's battle animation and choreography is some of the best of the series, seethe more because it's the truth.
>utilizes 3D camera successfully to ground the battle and give the audience an understanding of the environment
>vfx stylization is at its peak
>smear frames and speed lines used efficiently
>good battle storyboarding and direction as an added bonus
You'd have to be blind to not see how good XY's animation was. SM was fantastic too, but that doesn't make XY any worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:40:08 No.50371336 Report

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>>50371331
stop responding to shitposts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:40:39 No.50371338 Report

Quoted By: >>50371352 >>50371559

I wonder if Rose will come back at the end and try to fuck everything up by combining Mugendaina, daimax energy, and the Zygarde roots. That would make for some great Mega-Lucario and AG tag team, with a Kyodai Aura Shuriken. Please monkey paw. Make this kino happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:46:13 No.50371351 Report

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>>50371319
The only wife good for breeding

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:47:14 No.50371352 Report

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>>50371338
>BIG EPIC THINGS HAPPENING IN POKEMON
this has always been the most boring part of each show. even filler is mildly creative or humorous, but Ash and Go running around solving a legendary calamity is always a recipe for BORING. Multiplied by 1000 when you add in dull fanservice like AG and Lucario.. cutting Zygarde roots. Your post sucks, buddy. Suck my balls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:50:29 No.50371360 Report

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https://twitter.com/anipoke_base/status/1522819235105284097 this guy has shared leaks before...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:52:05 No.50371364 Report

Quoted By: >>50371408 >>50371577

DP pandering left to air
>Dawn
>Cynthia
>Paul
Ash using his reserves including Inefernape is possible but who knows

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:53:39 No.50371367 Report

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>>50371336
No

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 06:57:48 No.50371389 Report

Quoted By: >>50371413

Was this the last time Ash showed genuine sexual attraction for a girl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:03:07 No.50371408 Report

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>>50371364
Wait does Paul appear in one the new openings? I've been out of the loop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:04:33 No.50371413 Report

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>>50371389
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:05:00 No.50371418 Report

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>>50371408
yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:16:31 No.50371458 Report

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>>50371352
this. The Team Flare 5 parter is the most boring fucking part of the entire ashnime. Trying to pretend it’s this epic thing with big stakes but it’s boring to watch because it’s still just a toddler show.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:23:29 No.50371475 Report

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>>50371286
RICA'd and TOMIYASU'd

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:27:27 No.50371482 Report

Quoted By: >>50371485 >>50371528 >>50371552

Today I remind them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:28:52 No.50371485 Report

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>>50371482
Stop posting your fanfics anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:32:59 No.50371497 Report

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>>50371485
kill yourself dawn nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:43:09 No.50371517 Report

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>>50371497
Rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:46:01 No.50371528 Report

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>>50371482
the way ash acted when he saw iris it looks like he will vs her.
debunking this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:52:45 No.50371552 Report

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>>50371482
>M8 battles aren't straight arc
this is retarded even for a fake, especially now that they've very clearly separated the finals into it's own tournament.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:52:54 No.50371553 Report

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>>50371277
>ChampionShipping OP
Nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:53:56 No.50371559 Report

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>>50371324
Does Ash like em big and black?

>>50371338
>>50371352
I think they should have saved that for the finale of the world championship. More people, the stakes are greater.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:54:28 No.50371561 Report

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>>50371277
Ash is really giving off those Red vibes in this art

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 07:58:58 No.50371577 Report

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>>50371364
I don't give a fuck about Paul. Bring back Thirsty Bayleef again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:00:32 No.50371579 Report

Quoted By: >>50371583

Would XYfags be butthurt if, instead of that frog, Ash bought back his legendary Charizard for a Zard on Zard battle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:01:57 No.50371583 Report

Quoted By: >>50371587

>>50371579
Ash's Charizard should come back to mog Lance's Gyarados.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:04:07 No.50371587 Report

Quoted By: >>50371591

>>50371583
Does that mean Ash wins Johto/Kanto by default?

Sign me up for it if I can't see the Godvish tear down Ritchie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:05:08 No.50371591 Report

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>>50371587
Also bring back Tobias for Alola Title Defense, and this time Melmetal Double Panzers the shit out of Darkrai.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:13:51 No.50371616 Report

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https://twitter.com/Kamskii01/status/1522652473168588800

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:13:53 No.50371617 Report

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Do we already know who's gonna battle each other? So far I only see 8 contestants.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:15:29 No.50371622 Report

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https://twitter.com/PK21purcinaGo/status/1522592522232471553

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:17:15 No.50371626 Report

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>>50371277
Ash x Iris.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:17:21 No.50371628 Report

Quoted By: >>50371637 >>50371638

So base Lucario is as strong as original Wargreymon?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:19:58 No.50371630 Report

Quoted By: >>50371643 >>50371670

Super annoyed at the anime wasting her potencial to push James useless Morpeko.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:21:20 No.50371632 Report

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So how will the anime introduce Bede now?

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:23:03 No.50371637 Report

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>>50371628
lmao. no. wargreymon would body the entire pokedex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:24:21 No.50371638 Report

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>>50371628
Kek, Hell no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:25:21 No.50371643 Report

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>>50371630
RAIHAN'D

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:29:47 No.50371660 Report

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Bring back sceptile now goddamnit.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:33:31 No.50371670 Report

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>>50371630
She has no potential, get fucked waifu fag.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:38:28 No.50371684 Report

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Bring me back my Flygon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:42:47 No.50371692 Report

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>>50371277
Hey, did the show end yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:42:48 No.50371693 Report

Quoted By: >>50371694 >>50371696 >>50371723 >>50372062

How are they going to "smoothly" introduce Ash to the new Scarlet Violet region for him to travel to this time when there's never been any mention of it in-universe and no representation of it in the league rankings at all, is it going to be another isolated region like Alola? Perhaps a new pokemon to appear and body Pikachu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:43:49 No.50371694 Report

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>>50371693
Ash will be retired

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:44:54 No.50371696 Report

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>>50371693
The games and the anime aren't tied together anymore. This has been obvious for a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:44:56 No.50371697 Report

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>>50371692
Stop asking the same question, retard. >>50371694
Ash has reiterated that beating Leon is just another step "closer" to be a Pokemon Master

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:45:16 No.50371700 Report

Quoted By: >>50371718

Uhhn I want to fuck Iris chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:45:58 No.50371704 Report

Quoted By: >>50371732 >>50371738 >>50372062 >>50372295

>>50371692
Stop asking the same question, retard.
>>50371694
Ash has reiterated that beating Leon is just another step "closer" to be a Pokemon Master.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:46:14 No.50371705 Report

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>>50371696
They still found the time to introduce Galar and Dynamaxxing.
>>50371694
lol yeah okay

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:47:46 No.50371710 Report

Quoted By: >>50371726 >>50371730

Ash x Dawn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:49:57 No.50371717 Report

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AshIris half-black babies...and the kid's first Pokemon is of course Charmander.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:50:06 No.50371718 Report

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>>50371700
Shut up Alder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:51:41 No.50371723 Report

Quoted By: >>50371725 >>50371879

>>50371693
>>50371696
>>50371705
Consider this.

We don't need Ash and Pikachu to be the 'face' of the TV anime, and the face of the franchise anymore. Movieverse Ash's story is still ongoing. We can send off TV Ash here and brand recognition can continue via the movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:52:36 No.50371725 Report

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>>50371723
The movies died anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:52:39 No.50371726 Report

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>>50371710
See >>50371475

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:54:56 No.50371730 Report

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>>50371710
Cute and pure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:55:53 No.50371732 Report

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>>50371704
Yes that's the part to explain his never-ending adventure ending when he fades into the horizon at the final episode

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:56:33 No.50371734 Report

Quoted By: >>50371740

She fucking won

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:57:00 No.50371736 Report

Quoted By: >>50371778 >>50371856

>>50371725
The original, loosely tv-linked movie series died. Ironically in the XY era which people tells me is peak Pokemon. Even saw some cringe lord compare it to Madoka.

The alternate continuity, which restarts Ash's journey from Pallet, is ongoing with no end in sight. They also have the advantage of greater creative freedom since Movie Ash doesn't need to/isn't interested in beating gym abcdefgh and fight league x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:57:32 No.50371738 Report

Quoted By: >>50371750

>>50371704
>Stop asking the same question, retard.
I am sorry your show is about to end. I know you are angry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 08:58:07 No.50371740 Report

Quoted By: >>50371745 >>50371767

>>50371734
But can she beat Serena's Sylveon or beat Misty's water (most of which know at least one ice move)

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:00:26 No.50371745 Report

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>>50371740
No. She's scared of ice cream.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:00:39 No.50371748 Report

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Declaring her love for ash during a battle that will be seen worldwide, what a power move, just as expected from our dragon princess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:01:34 No.50371750 Report

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>>50371738
>Delusions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:02:25 No.50371752 Report

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Looks like Negai is back on the Menu...or should I say ChampionShipping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:02:41 No.50371754 Report

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Iris > serena

how things have turned ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:04:37 No.50371763 Report

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I just got to say again.

I would rather watch the Pokemon Filler episodes over what airs after Anipoke. Why does Japan like watching 30 minutes of boomers (and possibly one Idol) eating shit and over-reacting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:05:39 No.50371765 Report

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Cynthia will render Iris a mess of used goods. She's never been with a brown loli before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:06:28 No.50371767 Report

Quoted By: >>50371775

>>50371740
Yes, her dragonite has plot armor against Ice-type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:07:58 No.50371775 Report

Quoted By: >>50371784

>>50371767
Fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:08:56 No.50371778 Report

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>>50371736
Anon...THE MOVIES DIED, not only the ones linked to the anime, they're canned and OLM don't want to invest anymore in failing projects

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:10:03 No.50371782 Report

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:10:17 No.50371784 Report

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>>50371775
Emolga and Excadrill, and probably most of her dragons have a steel-type move

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:15:46 No.50371809 Report

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Lessons from Brock

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:18:00 No.50371819 Report

Quoted By: >>50371821 >>50371875 >>50371881

What expression is Dawn trying to convey here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:19:48 No.50371821 Report

Quoted By: >>50371861

>>50371819
she gotta poop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:20:14 No.50371823 Report

Quoted By: >>50371827 >>50371838

>>50371778
> THE MOVIES
stopped coming out because why bother in the middle of a pandemic, where shit can go into lockdown any second? They obviously had a lot planned (including at least one more Mythical distribution) but COVID shat everything up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:21:00 No.50371827 Report

Quoted By: >>50371833

>>50371823
good, all recent movies were shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:24:47 No.50371833 Report

Quoted By: >>50371840

>>50371827
I liked PokeTarzan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:28:23 No.50371838 Report

Quoted By: >>50371842

>>50371823
>Muh covid
That's a shit argument when everything else still went in production, AND NOW WE'RE NOT IN A PANDEMIC, the movies are a total waste of resources, and it's clear that TPC and OLM don't want more of it, specially when specials are cheaper to do, and bring more money

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:29:16 No.50371840 Report

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>>50371833
Me too, it was better than God being killed by cement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:30:18 No.50371842 Report

Quoted By: >>50372775

>>50371838
Sure anon, see you when they announce the Gen 9 mythical via movie, like they always have pre-pandemic!

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:33:36 No.50371852 Report

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:35:11 No.50371856 Report

Quoted By: >>50371865 >>50372122

>>50371736
>Ironically in the XY era which people tells me is peak Pokemon.
Only visually, everything else was mediocre or straight up bad, like the writing, atleast the art direction and action choreography was good.
What's curious is that, even though the AU movies do bad, they're not doing as terrible as XY's, seriously, what happened to those movies?

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:35:56 No.50371861 Report

Quoted By: >>50371874

>>50371821
>she gotta poop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:39:03 No.50371865 Report

Quoted By: >>50371867 >>50371875

>>50371856
> T-THE WRITING
has always been bad in this series, and battles were pretty much always the meat of this shitty anime. The fact that subsequent series fucked up how the battles looked just neuters the one thing this garbage kids' show ever did right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:39:37 No.50371867 Report

Quoted By: >>50371873 >>50372383

>>50371865
>T-THE WRITING
>has always been bad in this series
not in DP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:41:33 No.50371873 Report

Quoted By: >>50371877 >>50372383

>>50371867
It was bad in DP too, with the sole exception of Paul; I know, I've watched it recently. It wasn't really as good as I remembered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:41:34 No.50371874 Report

Quoted By: >>50372383

>>50371861
there is nothing wrong with dawn having a butthole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:41:38 No.50371875 Report

Quoted By: >>50371889

>>50371819
>>50371865
>has always been bad in this series
Not in DP, also even by pokemon standards(meaning OS-DP) the writing was bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:42:43 No.50371877 Report

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>>50371873
Paul wasn't good either, none of them was good. Except that guy with glasses in the lab in Journeys, I like him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:43:51 No.50371879 Report

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>>50371723
Absolutely retarded opinion

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:44:04 No.50371881 Report

Quoted By: >>50371888

>>50371819
She is seducing me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:45:49 No.50371886 Report

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Anyone here know when upcoming episode titles start getting revealed?

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:46:42 No.50371888 Report

Quoted By: >>50371911

>>50371881
>Dawn is seducing you
Wake up from your dreams, Goh!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:47:57 No.50371889 Report

Quoted By: >>50372434

>>50371875
On the contrary, I'd say the writing did its job of generating hype and worked in service of the great-looking (for this series) battles. Of course, it could never reach the only season where writing wasn't utter dogshit (i.e. OS) but it was serviceable.
Now though, this anime's actually reached a point where it's borderline unwatchable, chock-full of forced 'comedy' and not a single redeeming factor to make up for the fact that its art style looks hideous. I actually applaud everyone here (including me) for sitting through whatever the hell Pokémon is now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:51:23 No.50371900 Report

Quoted By:

>Ash win the Master tournament and become a legend
>Messi win the World Cup and become a legend
Lads... Ash was Argentinian all this time...

Goh

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Goh Sat 07 May 2022 09:54:59 No.50371911 Report

Quoted By: >>50371955

>>50371888
Is not a dream Ash!
I entered where you never had before, and it smelled so good, it's only a matter of time before Dawn falls for me and my charms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:55:30 No.50371913 Report

Quoted By: >>50371917

Who is the 2nd match up for Ash?
Alain is guaranteed as well as Leon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:56:11 No.50371915 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371277
Ash prefers older women

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:56:50 No.50371917 Report

Quoted By: >>50371933

>>50371913
>Alan
Alan is getting out by Steven

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 09:58:46 No.50371926 Report

Quoted By: >>50371944 >>50374578

Tobias will pop in out of nowhere, reveal he beat Leon, and be Ash's final match.
Screencap this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:00:57 No.50371933 Report

Quoted By: >>50371939 >>50372316

>>50371917
Steven, Iris, Lance and Diantha are 100000000% out in the first round. They're all shitters with a small fanbase and limited story relevance. Iris will go against Ash so he can move on from that hag and focus on Dawn, who is the superior love interest in every conceivable way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:02:36 No.50371939 Report

Quoted By: >>50371947 >>50371995

>>50371933
>Iris 100000000% out in the first round
Im not so sure...
on the other hand Alain should just lose to Ash right away

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:02:55 No.50371941 Report

Quoted By: >>50371948 >>50371956

>paul is gonna be in the masters 8
>flint is better than raihan! cope raihanfags

fucking kek, sinnoh is a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:03:44 No.50371944 Report

Quoted By: >>50372100

>>50371926
I'm really hoping they do a callback to how blue becomes the champion just before you do in the games but with Leon and Tobias. Having Tobias be the final surprise boss would be hype as fuck. They could even have Tobias have that Mewtwo ash and goh battled as a new capture

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:04:04 No.50371947 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371939
Ash will probably beat Alain at the first round then take out Cynthia/Lance/Steven in the second then Leon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:04:52 No.50371948 Report

Quoted By: >>50371953

>>50371941
Sinnoh has the strongest champion (until Ash)
Raihan is not any better than Flint, both out
Paul will be M8-tier, just not in PWC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:06:20 No.50371953 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371948
>leon > cynthia
>flint is weaker than raihan
>cope

LOL

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:06:48 No.50371955 Report

Quoted By: >>50371988

>>50371911
Time for me to take you back in hand, Goh! How dare you cheat on me with my harem Dawn!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:06:50 No.50371956 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371941
People just wanted the M8 to be actually interesting, instead of going for the most predictable lineup, and Alan...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:10:48 No.50371970 Report

Quoted By: >>50371977 >>50372337

>>50371475
>TOMIYASU'd
But Tomiyasu supports Ash x Dawn & Goh x Koharu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:11:23 No.50371972 Report

Quoted By:

Pic related or A-G beating the shit out ot Zard X.
Nothing else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:12:32 No.50371977 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371970
> T-TOMIYASU SUPPORTS MUH SHIP RRREEEEEE
Cope, it's never happening shipschizo.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:12:33 No.50371978 Report

Quoted By: >>50373439

Goh

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Goh Sat 07 May 2022 10:17:24 No.50371988 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371955
It's okay Koharu, there's enough Goh for you too!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:17:53 No.50371994 Report

Quoted By:

https://twitter.com/staff_aoi/status/1522758752704729088

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:17:59 No.50371995 Report

Quoted By: >>50372013 >>50372097

>>50371939
Nah, they've got to establish Alain as badass by letting him take out a jobber. Can't give away the fight everyone wants to see at the start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:24:16 No.50372013 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371995
No, Alain loses to Ash in the first round problem solved

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:25:00 No.50372016 Report

Quoted By: >>50372030 >>50372039

Who will change their team? Realistically I expect Alain to switch.
Also Ash is 100% using other mons since Paul's inclusion has to be for Infernape, Serena to bring back Greninja and maybe prof. Oak for Charizard at the very end

Goh

Goh Sat 07 May 2022 10:27:13 No.50372030 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372016
>Also Ash is 100% using other mons
He's not
>since Paul's inclusion has to be for Infernape
It's not
>Serena to bring back Greninja
...what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:28:49 No.50372039 Report

Quoted By: >>50372086

>>50372016
>Also Ash is 100% using other mons
He's not
>since Paul's inclusion has to be for Infernape
It's not
>Serena to bring back Greninja
...what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:34:14 No.50372062 Report

Quoted By: >>50372066 >>50372069 >>50372138 >>50372444

>>50371693
>>50371694
>>50371704
Imagine the amount of seething and unbearable crying when they announce Ash will be retired this
Twatter and 4chan will be infested with retards crying left and right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:35:15 No.50372066 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372062
*Imagine the amount of seething and unbearable crying when they announce Ash will be retired this season

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:35:48 No.50372069 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372062
I'll be incredibly happy if it happens, but let's not kid ourselves; his journey is never going to end, because they're too cowardly to let go of their security blanket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:38:55 No.50372086 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372039
>He's not
Everytime /padt/ says "it won't happen" the opposite happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:42:37 No.50372097 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371995
>thinking they'll let nostalgia bait overshadow the finals
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:43:38 No.50372100 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371944
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:45:32 No.50372110 Report

Quoted By: >>50372123

does Gmax Pikachu still exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:46:45 No.50372122 Report

Quoted By: >>50372143

>>50371856
minna monogatari was the best pokemon has ever looked and was written

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:47:00 No.50372123 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372110
Considering that it normally involves the usage of a Pokeball, Pikachu probably isn't going to Gmax anytime soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:50:31 No.50372138 Report

Quoted By: >>50372147

>>50372062
People will cry but because it's a really long journey coming to an end, the fighting would be more of who he settles with in his post trainer life if anything.
I'm happy if Ash retires on a W, he deserves it, man's probably older than me if he was allowed to age and this season worked really well in giving him the battles of a lifetime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:51:07 No.50372143 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372122
Everyone's Story is the absolute peak of Pokemon movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 10:52:07 No.50372147 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372138
This season like all seasons sucked ass. No one cares with a healthy state of mind gives a crap about him anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:21:32 No.50372278 Report

Quoted By: >>50372288 >>50372346 >>50372373

>Ash retires as the MC of the TV anime
>We get a new MC, with Ash as a supporting mentor-type character that appears from time to time
>Ash will still be the MC of the movies, whether it's AU Ash or following the masters journey of TV Pokemon Master Ash (personally, the latter seems more interesting)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:23:34 No.50372288 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372278
It's an unpopular opinion, but i still like ash as the main protagonist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:24:42 No.50372295 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371704
>Beats Leon to become the strongest trainer in the world
>Then the alien super-trainers arrive...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:28:29 No.50372316 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371933
I want Lance vs Ash in the semifinals, because the symmetry of home-region representation. I don't give a flying dribble about muh mommywife Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:29:00 No.50372318 Report

Quoted By:

Do you think they'll bring back Alain's girlfriend with the Chespin too? I'd like for him to get a proper sendout if its his last appearance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:33:45 No.50372337 Report

Quoted By: >>50372352

>>50371970
>Says one thing
>Says another thing
You retards pick one interview when its convenient to you. And then choose another when it suits you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:36:02 No.50372346 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372278
Adult Teacher Ash in the SV region. You could make so many jokes about him getting overexcited trying to make topics interesting for his students

Captcha:4XYS4

What's does the captcha mean bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:36:27 No.50372352 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372337
They're shippers, so of course they're schizos with selective memory issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:40:19 No.50372373 Report

Quoted By: >>50372408

>>50372278
Ash is never going to be the cool inspirational shonen big brother archetype who dies because this show is made for literal babies.
I hope we go back to more travelling and adventure, not necessarily the gym grind though they can keep that the fuck away. But try to write a more overarching story, like in the games. Shouldn't be too fucking hard, the best and shittiest minds alike of wattpad and AO3 have done so for decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:42:06 No.50372383 Report

Quoted By: >>50372436 >>50372457

>>50371867
>>50371873
>>50371874
The writing in pokemon is usually painfully mediocre, whit it occasionally going into bad territory, DP and SM manage to stand out by having some of the most well-written parts in the franchise and by having a clear narrative intent the earliest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:49:37 No.50372408 Report

Quoted By: >>50372431

>>50372373
>the cool inspirational shonen big brother archetype who dies
There are plenty of shows that have characters like that, that are worse than pokemon because they attract edgy kids that think they are better than other people because they like "mature" stories. Pokemon came close to becoming like that but it thankfully had the right staff course-correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:53:08 No.50372420 Report

Quoted By: >>50372450

What if later Pokemon series are about Ash taking on Bad guys rather than trying to be Pokemon Master? There always be a new main legendary and a villain that tries to abuse it in every Pokemon game.

Pokemon can also become a slice of life anime but it require a dynamic cast of weird yet loveable character. Maybe OLM could learn something from "Komi-san can't communicate" since they are animating it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:56:47 No.50372431 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372408
Right, what's your point? This isn't about being mature, this is about acknowledging the limiting factor that is the target demographic. It's aired in the same timeframe as fucking Paw Patrol, probably for the exact same viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:57:29 No.50372434 Report

Quoted By: >>50372464 >>50372483

>>50371889
>On the contrary, I'd say the writing did its job of generating hype and worked in service of the great-looking (for this series) battles.
That's literally the main contributing factor to XY having the worst writing of any series. It focuses on hype and surface-level shit only for it to fall flat on its ass when those things don't have any substance behind them, oh and when the most hyped-up battle ends with the protagonist's embarrassing defeat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:57:53 No.50372436 Report

Quoted By: >>50372466

>>50372383
DP has Paul going for it, I'll give you that. The narrative wasn't particularly stand-out outside of his thing with Ash, but it kept the core strengths of the show and built upon them, so I'd generally say it's good. It was an adventure with tense battles, decent animation for the time, an art style that fit the show's more serious tone, and actual improvements on the world-ending plot from the games. By Pokémon standards, it was pretty much the best you could ask for.
But for SM, not only is the 'narrative intent' still garbage compared to any halfway competent story, but it also adds in forced 'comedy', a boring slice-of-life feel, drops the 'adventure' aspect that was the whole APPEAL of the show for some people, and ends up gimping the somewhat decent villain plot that was already in the games. Not to mention, the art style is dogshit and the animation is actually a DOWNGRADE in some aspects, meaning it wasn't a straight upgrade over its predecessor. Plus, the fact that it doesn't even seem to take ITSELF seriously makes it hard for me, the viewer, to take it seriously. The last couple criticisms also apply to the 'league' btw.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:57:55 No.50372437 Report

Quoted By: >>50372441 >>50372496 >>50372896

I think this is the most popular the anime has been since XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 11:59:48 No.50372441 Report

Quoted By: >>50372458 >>50372481

>>50372437
It's a historic moment for the Pokemon anime. It's high stakes and having Ash lose here would be the worst mistake they'd ever make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:01:56 No.50372444 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372062
All the casuals and nostalgiatards will be superficially happy and then proceed to watch the new anime and realize it's the same fucking shit and that the problem was not Ash but PokeAni as a whole that it's a badly written schlock.
And then they will go back to to shitting on the anime and perhaps even beg for Ash's return.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:03:35 No.50372450 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372420
I'm all for making Giodaddy and TR as a whole much more threatening, competent and villainy, like they did in BW. We never got that TR vs Plasma either.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:04:40 No.50372451 Report

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>>50371277
>people actually thought she was weaker than a gym leader like Volkner or even other Elite 4 members
Repeat after me, Georgiafags: top 8 in the world!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:06:25 No.50372457 Report

Quoted By: >>50372499

>>50372383
I realize that almost all the lead character follow two main archetype --

A) Genki girl
B) Passive girl who want to build more confidence .

Only Misty and Lana had something different compare to rest of the lead girls. It sad that for 25 years the anime has been reusing the same two archetype over & over and now Ash could get replaced. I wish the anime could something different like introducing a bookish , serious ,intelligent prideful and rational girl who has a real life goal of getting into a good collage by gaining enough information on Legendary Pokemon for extra credit and finds Ash to be annoying who also finds her boring therefore has a "Love-hate" dynamic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:06:33 No.50372458 Report

Quoted By: >>50372475 >>50372490

>>50372441
>It's high stakes and having Ash lose here would be the worst mistake they'd ever make.
That will forever be the Kalos League.
Even if Ash loses here he'll come out looking good. And let's not pretend people are even half as invested on Leon vs Ash as they have had in previous important big Ash matches.
If you'd asked me yesterday I'd have said Ash vs Cynthia was the most looked forward to match but with Alain there now Ash vs Alain is now the most looked forward to now.
These matches can be big leagues ones, but you people forget that this is an anime, an story, and having things like, say, Ash vs Steven while "cool Ash beat a Champion" would have zero narrative pay-off. People would happily take a "lesser victory" as long as it is more satisfying one emotionally.
Just look at Alola. There's a reason why people don't remember Ash vs Gladion. It's just "HOLY SHIT HE FINALLY WAS ALLOWED TO WIN A LEAGUE". There's a reason why the battle people remember is the Kukui one. Because that's the one with real emotional and narrative pay-off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:07:49 No.50372464 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372434
And that hype is not only missing in SM, but also so-called 'World Tournament' shit they've got going in JN. At the very least, XY did the job of being great eye-candy and making the viewer feel SOMETHING. For all its faults, XY at least felt like the show I grew up watching as a kid.
Not only Pokémon STILL bad in its current state, it's also lost whatever charm it had before SM. I kept clinging onto it in hopes that 'maybe it'll get better', but we're almost at Leon and it still hasn't regained any of the luster it used to have.
I can't believe there are people who honestly LIKE what the anime is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:08:15 No.50372466 Report

Quoted By: >>50372477 >>50372535

>>50372436
The point of Alola is that it's the region where nature and old traditions of pokemon and humans are at the forefront, which is why it dropped the adventure aspect, getting to know about the people of Alola and their culture was the adventure. Also the "forced comedy" and "boring slice-of-life" were relevant as a juxtaposition to Kalos where Ash was too tense and obsessed with winning to actually succeed. The league was done well because there was a meaningful build-up for why Alola matters to Ash from at least episode 20 if not the first one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:09:29 No.50372475 Report

Quoted By: >>50372485

>>50372458
>Because that's the one with real emotional and narrative pay-off.
...well to be fair, part of it also had to do with the fact that Ash vs Gladion was a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:09:31 No.50372477 Report

Quoted By: >>50372494 >>50372535

>>50372466
>Also the "forced comedy" and "boring slice-of-life" were relevant as a juxtaposition to Kalos where Ash was too tense and obsessed with winning to actually succeed
Fucking lmao.
Are we seriously gonna pretend that SM being like was anything but the execs being scared shitless of YW and doing their hardest to ape it now? Get real nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:10:04 No.50372481 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372441
It just doesn't feel deserved. He jobs multiple regionals, some of them he barely gets past preliminaries, then he wins a literal nothing league and now he's surrounded by regional champions. It's such horseshit, and PM19 have not justified him reaching this point in any conceivable way. If he wins it'll be a hollow victory, if he loses it'll be a hollow-but-predictable loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:10:29 No.50372483 Report

Quoted By: >>50372525

>>50372434
And that hype is not only missing in SM, but also in the so-called 'World Tournament' shit they've got going in JN. At the very least, XY did the job of being great eye-candy and making the viewer feel SOMETHING. For all its faults, XY at least felt like the show I grew up watching as a kid.
Not only Pokémon STILL bad in its current state, it's also lost whatever charm it had before SM. I kept clinging onto it in hopes that 'maybe it'll get better', but we're almost at Leon and it still hasn't regained any of the luster it used to have.
I can't believe there are people who honestly LIKE what the anime is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:10:56 No.50372485 Report

Quoted By: >>50372643

>>50372475
Case in point.
Go rewatch Ash vs Paul. The animation was nothing to mention about. If that aired today people would be shitting on it all day. But you know what? People don't care about that because the narrative and emotional payoff for that battle was TREMENDOUS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:11:07 No.50372488 Report

Quoted By:

Will they increase the animation budget for the M8 battles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:11:25 No.50372490 Report

Quoted By: >>50372498

>>50372458
>Even if Ash loses here he'll come out looking good.

Depends on who he lose too.
There are two opponent he should absolutely not lose to and must defeat on one of them a.k.a Alain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:12:03 No.50372494 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372477
>Are we seriously gonna pretend that SM being like was anything but the execs being scared shitless of YW and doing their hardest to ape it now?
I'm not denying that or saying I know their reasons, I'm just pointing out that they used those aspects to great narrative effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:12:10 No.50372496 Report

Quoted By: >>50372503

>>50372437
And all it took was for XY to come back to prominence again. Who would've thunk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:12:35 No.50372498 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372490
I seriously doubt that the suits would be so tone-deaf so as to make the same mistake again.
I'm sure they like their offices not getting kyoani'ed because that's the bare minimum it's gonna happen if they fuck it up again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:12:47 No.50372499 Report

Quoted By: >>50372520

>>50372457
>Hirochad
I'm surprised that I found you here of all places, but based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:13:18 No.50372503 Report

Quoted By: >>50372513

>>50372496
>Cynthia
>XY
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:15:08 No.50372513 Report

Quoted By: >>50372529 >>50372533

>>50372503
I'm the biggest Cynthiaslurper in the world but you're crazy if you think Cynthia's the reason why people started paying attention to this shit since yesterday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:15:51 No.50372520 Report

Quoted By: >>50372530

>>50372499
I hardly ever been to "A Couple of Cuckoo" thread only once and read the manga two days ago. I simply just like Past Hiro better than the current Hiro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:16:38 No.50372525 Report

Quoted By: >>50372527 >>50372574

>>50372483
>And that hype is not only missing in SM
It isn't missing, it's just that the writers used the hype for building up the region, characters, pokemon, and the show's themes instead of just giving Ash a special frog that makes him the strongest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:18:28 No.50372527 Report

Quoted By: >>50372574

>>50372525
Okay then, where was the internet hype during Alola?
Show me at least 10 articles that talk about Ash league's win that talk about how masterfully written the victory is because of those things you mentioned and not because HOLY SHIT ASH WON A LEAGUE AFTER 20 YEARS.
Praise SM all you want but it was not "hype" by any definition of the word.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:18:39 No.50372529 Report

Quoted By: >>50372532

>>50372513
What character is trending by the way?

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:18:50 No.50372530 Report

Quoted By: >>50372595

The new poster became the second most liked tweet of the twitter account in all of journeys' run.
>>50372520
I see. Well, I find the current cast of characters completely idiotic so hiro's sort of a "lesser devil" for me.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:18:59 No.50372531 Report

Quoted By: >>50372536 >>50372594

He’s coming back, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:19:11 No.50372532 Report

Quoted By: >>50372539

>>50372529
You tell me nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:19:16 No.50372533 Report

Quoted By: >>50372538

>>50372513
People always start paying attention when a Pokémon series reaches its conclusion. Maybe that's the right way to enjoy this series truly as an adult, maybe we're the fools for getting invested in this trite junk when all that matters is the last 10 or so episodes. Afterall they didn't sit through the entirety of 19 for this moment, they couldn't care if this moment is deserving of the accolade or not. They just wanna see if he wins or loses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:19:52 No.50372535 Report

Quoted By: >>50372589 >>50372613 >>50372628

>>50372466
> The point of Alola is that it's the region where nature and old traditions of pokemon and humans are at the forefront
And it was horrifyingly dull, and drove away the people who actually ENJOYED what Pokémon used to be.
> Also the "forced comedy" and "boring slice-of-life" were relevant as a juxtaposition to Kalos where Ash was too tense and obsessed with winning
lol
lmao, even
It's as >>50372477 says, they were pants-shittingly terrified of Yo-Kai Watch and wanted some of those viewers to stick around for Pokémon because of how 'similar' it was. Also, it sounds like an incredibly weird cope when the most universally beloved post-OS series of the anime (DP) featured an Ash whose entire drive was to succeed by doing things 'his way'. XY continued this, but lacked a rival to push him till Alain came up. By the way, JN (i.e. where Ash is at his most successful) features an Ash who it as his MOST obsessed with winning, to the point where losing against Bea literally froze him, and his whole drive is 'I WANT TO BEAT DANDE-SAN'. Whatever 'narrative' SM crafted has already been forgotten, IF it was the point to begin with (which it really wasn't, no matter what you say).
> The league was done well because there was a meaningful build-up for why Alola matters to Ash
WHO FUCKING CARES? Why the fuck was the anime so obsessed with 'why it matters to Ash' when it should've focused on 'why it should matter to us, the viewers'? For people who never bought the 'second home' nonsense, it fell completely flat on its face and had absolutely no weight. The fact that the league felt like a joke that didn't even take ITSELF seriously felt like a slap in the face to people who were invested in Ash's whole journey, rather than just a small pocket of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:19:53 No.50372536 Report

Quoted By: >>50372547

>>50372531
We're all hoping so.
As long as we get Kalos Team vs Alain and Sinnoh Team vs Cynthia Lucario could solo Leon team for all I care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:20:45 No.50372538 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372533
You have a point. It is undeniable, however, that Alain returning is a big buff in that regard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:20:52 No.50372539 Report

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>>50372532
Alain is the jumpscare equivalent of hype, the Sinnoh Queen is eternal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:24:41 No.50372547 Report

Quoted By: >>50372559 >>50372561

>>50372536
I’m really hoping they go for a fakeout and Alain/Cynthia takes out Leon before the final. Leon would be such an anticlimactic final opponent for Ash to reach the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:27:15 No.50372559 Report

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>>50372547
Leon shilling triumphs everything, sad as it is to say.
At least I can cope that if this anime had been made without Galar existing then Cynthia would have been number one. I'm genuinely surprised that she and Steven are second and third respectively. I was expecting Lance second again. At least that shows that there's a little bit of self-awareness on the anime staff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:27:31 No.50372561 Report

Quoted By: >>50372572

>>50372547
>Alain takes out Leon before the final

That will cause even bigger backlash and even bigger rant on how the anime consistently favors Alain over everything.
Maybe Leon reveal to have legendary Pokemon as an ace that only decides to use against Ash considering how Alola League arc ended with Ash and Pikachu overpowering Tapu Keko's Z-move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:29:58 No.50372572 Report

Quoted By: >>50372638

>>50372561
>Maybe Leon reveal to have legendary Pokemon as an ace that only decides to use against Ash considering how Alola League arc ended with Ash and Pikachu overpowering Tapu Keko's Z-move.
That would be even cringier.
Alain defeating Leon would also be cringe but if Ash got the victory on Alain as the finals of the tourney, specially if it happened with the frog, it would make the internet explode from sheer hype and excitement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:30:14 No.50372574 Report

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>>50372525
> they used the hype to build up a region
then I'm sorry, but it failed. I didn't feel invested in Alola, and seeing how little people cared about the League victory beyond 'HOLY SHIT HE WON', it seems like a ton of other people didn't care either. They spent all their efforts on the WRONG aspects of the show.
Not to mention, as >>50372527 mentioned, the hype was completely nonexistent outside of people who were already invested in the stupid region. I was watching, but I still couldn't get myself to feel pumped.
And before you say anything else, I don't hate the Alola region; I actually liked the games, and I wonder how it could've been if it followed the much better in-game plot rather than the anime's shitty one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:32:07 No.50372589 Report

Quoted By: >>50372665 >>50372803 >>50372822

>>50372535
>Also, it sounds like an incredibly weird cope when the most universally beloved post-OS series of the anime (DP) featured an Ash whose entire drive was to succeed by doing things 'his way'. XY continued this, but lacked a rival to push him till Alain came up.
In DP138 Ash goes to Dawn's hometown for the festival to rest after his loss to Paul, there is a scene where he goes for a walk in the forest and meets a kid trying to catch a Heracross, Ash stops to talk to this kid, and reminisces about his Heracross, and about how much he appreciated the life he has lived. That episode was the last DP episode written by Aya Matsui, the head writer for SM, wherein SM20, also written by Matsui Ash went to an island where he expressed joy at just being in Alola, and that he feels it will bring him closer to his goal of being a Pokemon Master. The direction of Ash's character from DP to SM feels like the lessons he stumbled upon in Sinnoh were fully fleshed out in Alola in accordance with her vision. While in XY he regressed to the point of not knowing how to handle loss or the idea of someone that started after you become stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:32:49 No.50372594 Report

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>>50372531
With the air of finality this carries, they should really just have him use ALL of his previous aces in reserve, even AG. Then tell the Anipoke team to just fucking go nuts and not care about the expenses, god knows they should have enough cash to convince several guvernors to carve a face of Pikachu into Mt. Rushmore.
If they're really going to have him win against the BEST trainers of the world, then at LEAST don't have it look like choppy dogshit.

Though choppy dogshit is synonymous with Journies, so maybe it wouldn't be complete without it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:32:58 No.50372595 Report

Quoted By: >>50372624

>>50372530
Imagine a lead girl that look like past Hiro but with an different personality and same aged as Ash who often clash with her like --

(Evil Team attacking research center)

Ash : We need to stop them
Hiro : No, we need to call Officer Jenny and let her deal with it
Ash : We can't just stand and watch , we need to do something now
Hiro : We can't take on an entire gangs by ourselves, that suppose to be Police job.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:35:03 No.50372604 Report

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I KNEEL
I SQUEAL
MY KALOS CHAMPIONSHIP
ISN’T REAL

I COPE
I MOPE
IN THE FINALS
I LOOK LIKE A DOPE

I SIN
I NEVER WIN
MY TEAM BELONGS
IN THE TRASH BIN

I JOB
I AM A SLOB
I LOSE CRUCIAL BATTLES
AND THEN I SOB

I SMELL LIKE A TRASH BAG
MY WAIFU IS A HAG
I AM…AN ASHFAG

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:36:17 No.50372607 Report

Quoted By: >>50372615

Make a spin-off based on the Champions. I'd watch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:38:59 No.50372613 Report

Quoted By: >>50372620

>>50372535
> By the way, JN (i.e. where Ash is at his most successful) features an Ash who it as his MOST obsessed with winning, to the point where losing against Bea literally froze him, and his whole drive is 'I WANT TO BEAT DANDE-SAN'.
>Whatever 'narrative' SM crafted has already been forgotten
You're confusing forgotten and completed, as Ash learned the lessons in Alola and won the league, after that all that's left for him is to move forward and learn new things, have new experiences, and adapt his worldview and lessons he's learned to achieve greater heights in life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:39:15 No.50372615 Report

Quoted By: >>50372639

>>50372607
Boy, do I have the artist for you.
https://twitter.com/yao4513
Draws a bunch of comics starring Lance, Steven, Cynthia and Diantha SoL'ish hijinks.
Hope you did your reps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:40:10 No.50372620 Report

Quoted By: >>50372663

>>50372613
Oh yeah for sure. Remember that massive flashback had where Ash remembered all about Alola which was what got him out of his funk after Bea destroyed him? What a great piece of writing!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:40:11 No.50372621 Report

Quoted By: >>50372625

Spoilers for the tournament.

ASH beats Iris
ALAIN beats Diantha
CYNTHIA beats Steven
LEON beats Lance

ASH beats Alain
LEON beats Cynthia

LEON beats Ash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:40:51 No.50372624 Report

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>>50372595
Let's face it, how long would it take for Ash to go full 'Licence to Kill'? (The movie that is.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:41:00 No.50372625 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372621
Here's your (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:41:13 No.50372628 Report

Quoted By: >>50372636 >>50372822

>>50372535
>WHO FUCKING CARES?
The people that care about good writing and Ash's as a character instead of a vehicle for self-gratification.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:41:55 No.50372636 Report

Quoted By: >>50372651

>>50372628
If you cared about good writing you wouldn't be watching PokeAni.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:42:34 No.50372638 Report

Quoted By: >>50372656 >>50372657 >>50372668 >>50373011

>>50372572
>That would be even cringier.

Nope because nether Charizard are actually a good final opponent for the World Championship.

>Alain defeating Leon would also be cringe but if Ash got the victory on Alain as the finals of the tourney, specially if it happened with the frog, it would make the internet explode from sheer hype and excitement.

Only XY fans would excited about it while rest of fanbase will explode in fury that yet again Alain being rewarded for something he doesn't deserved. If anything , Cynthia is the only one that people would except as the final opponent in place of Leon and it will be a battle where fans actually rooting for both side unlike Ash vs Alain where nobody want to see Ash losing to Alain for the 4th time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:43:03 No.50372639 Report

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>>50372615
>reps
I've accepted that I'll never, EVER learn this contrived and needlessly arduous language. But thanks for sharing, I can at least look at the pretty pictures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:43:41 No.50372643 Report

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>>50372485
Tremendous? No lol. Yoh are starting to exaggarate this Ash vs. Paul thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:45:01 No.50372651 Report

Quoted By: >>50372677

>>50372636
True in most cases, but as I grew up with it and happened to develop a taste for good writing I can't help but comment on instances of it in the anime, or criticize the lack of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:45:41 No.50372656 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372638
>Nope because nether Charizard are actually a good final opponent for the World Championship.
And yet Leon's Charizard will be.
Of course it's shit but it is what it is. Go somehow invent time travel and kill Turner so that Galar doesn't happen as it happened if you don't like it. It's the only way to fix it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:46:01 No.50372657 Report

Quoted By: >>50372862

>>50372638
Nobody would give a shit if Alain made the finals as long as he lost to Ash in them. Leon does not have all that many fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:47:18 No.50372663 Report

Quoted By: >>50372673

>>50372620
How is any of that contradictory to my comment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:47:21 No.50372665 Report

Quoted By: >>50372686 >>50372803

>>50372589
God, you make it sound like a masterfully written piece where it's actually a garbage plot and story

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:47:47 No.50372668 Report

Quoted By: >>50372868

>>50372638
You seriously overestimate how much people "hate" Alain.
People hate the results of the league, not the character itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:48:19 No.50372673 Report

Quoted By: >>50372723

>>50372663
That you are full of shit and Ash is not "applying the lessons he learned in Alola" anywhere but on your fanfic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:49:10 No.50372677 Report

Quoted By: >>50372704

>>50372651
It's a fundamentally flawed series, no matter what you say will change anything significant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:50:18 No.50372686 Report

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>>50372665
Having rewatched the entirety of OS to SM recently I can assure you there are more things that connect the series than it may appear to some who just remember the battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:51:06 No.50372692 Report

Quoted By: >>50372698

Garchomp's voice actor leaked that Cynthia will mega evolve Garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:51:55 No.50372698 Report

Quoted By: >>50372709 >>50372727

>>50372692
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:52:41 No.50372704 Report

Quoted By: >>50372717

>>50372677
Oh, I 100% agree, I just don't see why we can't just acknowledge the instances of good writing when they happen, or that the anime is written by multiple people some of which are much better at writing than the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:53:10 No.50372709 Report

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>>50372698
NTA but even the toy announcements have a Mega Garchomp so I'd say it is definitely happening

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:53:21 No.50372713 Report

Quoted By: >>50372825

Why is the manga allowed to have edge and not the anime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:54:13 No.50372717 Report

Quoted By: >>50372741

>>50372704
Because, at the end of the day, some things matter more than others. And doing a small thing well will never matter when you have big thing done wrong completely overshadowing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:55:02 No.50372723 Report

Quoted By: >>50372830

>>50372673
Ash deciding to leave Alola is meant to signify that he still has more to see, and do. Him not growing from his Alolan self would be a betrayal of his final resolution on his second home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:56:07 No.50372727 Report

Quoted By: >>50372730

>>50372698
His twitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:56:47 No.50372730 Report

Quoted By: >>50372749

>>50372727
Post the tweet then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 12:59:03 No.50372741 Report

Quoted By: >>50372757

>>50372717
Yes but those "small" better writers, with enough support, could become the main writers for the show and be given enough freedom to take the show in a well-written direction permanently. I'm not saying that it will happen, only that we can't know it until we try. That's one of the most consistent themes in the show you know, maybe you should try applying it to real-life anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:00:52 No.50372749 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372730
Not him but found it.
https://twitter.com/Shogo_J23/status/1522550827335905281

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:01:48 No.50372757 Report

Quoted By: >>50372779

>>50372741
I mean, sure, but we're just a bunch of anons on a taiwanese basked weaving forum. What influence could we truly have? Specially when the thread where we discussing this monster catching children's anime is buried under shitposters 99% of the time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:04:39 No.50372767 Report

Quoted By:

/v/ here, heard this was leading up to kalos league v2, with ash in the finals likely

gonna watch it now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:06:25 No.50372775 Report

Quoted By:

>>50371842
Anon, Gen 9 is around the fucking corner, they ALWAYS used the movies to tease the upcoming stuff, be either a Mythical, Legendary or a new attempted shillmon (Lucario and Zoroark). The fact than 2 years later, with Gen 9 around the corner and we got nothing shows they don't give a damn about the movies anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:07:07 No.50372779 Report

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>>50372757
>I mean, sure, but we're just a bunch of anons on a taiwanese basked weaving forum. What influence could we truly have?
By taking your discussion elsewhere, and informing the writers how the stuff where the put the effort in doesn't fall on deaf ears.
>Specially when the thread where we discussing this monster catching children's anime is buried under shitposters 99% of the time?
If you truly care about things being better then just being the change you want to see is a good start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:14:56 No.50372803 Report

Quoted By: >>50372844 >>50372850

>>50372589
...you do know that you could probably make anything sound good if you put it like that, right? How about I take the very example you're lambasting? Ahem:
Ash was on the longest winning high in his career, that too after his embarrassing loss in Unova. He was at the top of his game, cruising through his opponents, rarely experiencing a major loss of any sort, and then he meets this kid who looks up to him. He's also managed to forge a strong bond with Greninja, and discovered the ability to use its power in a way that could match a CHAMPION.
And then...it all starts falling apart. The 'special power' he discovered is completely out of his control, and because of it he experiences loss after loss AFTER LOSS; all because he's not 'good enough' to bring out Greninja's strength. It gets to a point where he's even losing to the trainer who used to look up to him. His worst traits start coming out because he realizes that he's starting to slip again, and it's all because of him. His arrogance, his temper, his impatience...traits and flaws he's had since OS, all flooding out because he realizes he's starting to FAIL once more. Keep in mind that this is the first time Ash has felt like such a winner, only to fall back so hard that he's now behind a newbie who hasn't even been on his journey for so long. Eventually, it all comes to a head and Ash has an explosive meltdown, and it takes a moment for him to cool down and actually start understanding his Pokémon rather than bull-headedly chasing a power he doesn't understand. Eventually, he repairs his and Greninja's fractured bond and realizes that, rather than worrying about becoming a failure, he should just do his best and bond with his Pokémon, and let victory be a consequence of that.
See? I can dress something up in pretty words and make it seem nice too! As >>50372665 said though, the writing in this series is such utter dogshit that a couple (debatably) good moments won't fix it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:19:28 No.50372822 Report

Quoted By: >>50372873

>>50372628
The Ash I cared about up and left the show sometime around BW, and hasn't come back since. You can like your 'SM Ash' all you want, and >>50372589 can pretend that some connective tissue exists where it really doesn't, but it won't change the fact that Ash in SM is a vastly different person from his original incarnation, and the series itself has up and lost what made it even remotely special. Everything that made the series good was sacrificed for 'plot' that isn't even as good as the games that came before it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:20:35 No.50372825 Report

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>>50372713
Because the anime is aimed for kids. They can't show edgy stuffs to kids. And is too late, decades late, to make pokemon more for adults, when the whole franchise = kids stufffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:22:19 No.50372830 Report

Quoted By: >>50372882

>>50372723
Ash left Alola and all the 'lessons' he learned back there. He's so obsessed with victory that a single loss is enough to completely put him out for a significant amount of time.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:27:21 No.50372840 Report

Quoted By: >>50372845 >>50372937

>>50371277
Power couple you say?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:28:52 No.50372844 Report

Quoted By: >>50372850 >>50372930 >>50372984

>>50372803
>He was at the top of his game, cruising through his opponents, rarely experiencing a major loss of any sort, and then he meets this kid who looks up to him. He's also managed to forge a strong bond with Greninja, and discovered the ability to use its power in a way that could match a CHAMPION. And then...it all starts falling apart. The 'special power' he discovered is completely out of his control, and because of it he experiences loss after loss AFTER LOSS
That matching a Champion example was after two losses to Alain. The loss after loss AFTER LOSS was alongside Diantha.
>all because he's not 'good enough' to bring out Greninja's strength. It gets to a point where he's even losing to the trainer who used to look up to him. His worst traits start coming out because he realizes that he's starting to slip again, and it's all because of him. His arrogance, his temper, his impatience...traits and flaws he's had since OS, all flooding out because he realizes he's starting to FAIL once more.
Except it's a blatant regression of his character that contradicts the backbone of his character that he's been affirming in every other series up to that point.
>Eventually, it all comes to a head and Ash has an explosive meltdown, and it takes a moment for him to cool down and actually start understanding his Pokémon rather than bull-headedly chasing a power he doesn't understand. Eventually, he repairs his and Greninja's fractured bond and realizes that, rather than worrying about becoming a failure, he should just do his best and bond with his Pokémon, and let victory be a consequence of that.
The ways in which Ash progresses his mastery of Ash-Greninja have been thematically contradictory, he both masters it in the Diantha fight because of his desire to win and is shown learning that only caring about winning is wrong.The aftermath of the Wolfric arc has Ash acting the same which affirms my prior point and showed that the conflict Ash experienced is filler at best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:28:53 No.50372845 Report

Quoted By: >>50372878

>>50372840>
See >>50371475

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:29:07 No.50372849 Report

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>>50371277
>op still hasn't been updated with subs

https://nyaa.si/view/1524954 (720p)
https://nyaa.si/view/1524955 (1080p)

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:30:12 No.50372850 Report

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>>50372803
>>50372844
and clear incompetence on the writer's part at worst.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:31:26 No.50372858 Report

Quoted By: >>50372867 >>50372937

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:32:16 No.50372862 Report

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>>50372657
>Leon does not have all that many fans.

Nether does Alain, if anything he has one of the largest hatebase.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:34:13 No.50372867 Report

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>>50372858
>cute and canon power couple

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:35:00 No.50372868 Report

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>>50372668
Wrong because Ash losing the league is nothing something new, it dislike it because Ash lost to Alain who screwed the whole region and got rewarded instead of facing actual consequence.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:35:57 No.50372870 Report

Quoted By: >>50372886 >>50372937

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:37:00 No.50372873 Report

Quoted By: >>50373000

>>50372822
>The Ash I cared about up and left the show sometime around BW
XY really did try its hardest to kill Ash and pokemon, thankfully it didn't succeed, and I hope you can eventually realize that as well anon.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:37:19 No.50372875 Report

Quoted By:

Leaks just dropped.

>It turns out that Alain is actually in the M8 to avenge the death of Manon and is super edgy and has super plot armor.

>Manon died from COVID-19

>Also Alain blames Serena for it since Serena was always hanging around Manon without a mask. So if Alain wins, he's going after Serena.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:37:42 No.50372878 Report

Quoted By:

>>50372845
You know that the same goes for >>50371277?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:38:55 No.50372882 Report

Quoted By: >>50373000

>>50372830
Taking a break is what Ash did after his loss to Paul and as I've proven DP Ash goes into SM Ash so there.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:39:33 No.50372886 Report

Quoted By: >>50372943 >>50372944

>>50372870
What a good friend, leading him to the altar

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:41:41 No.50372895 Report

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>>50371360
this guy is literally just a kid who buys the magazines irl in japan
basically what happened was a VA mistook regular garchomp for mega garchomp on twitter, and the usual suspects ran to the presses with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:41:41 No.50372896 Report

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>>50372437
Cynthia #1

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:44:04 No.50372905 Report

Quoted By: >>50372917 >>50372937

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:46:55 No.50372917 Report

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>>50372905

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:49:00 No.50372929 Report

Quoted By: >>50372937 >>50375113

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:49:18 No.50372930 Report

Quoted By: >>50372992 >>50373014 >>50373033

>>50372844
I think the ashnime's morale in that context is that there is no absolute key to victory since different league contenders who won against Ash all used very different strategies (Ritchie - insane luck, Harrison - a well balanced universal strategy, Tyson - actually well written frienderino power, Tobias - legendary power, Cameron - reliance on Aura with the whole Riolu thing, Alain - unironic power autism)
Ash's strategy is sporadic speed and the reason why he doesn't win is really spelt out as the fact that he just detracts way too much from actual training to hang out with his companions and solve their issues and the anime shows this as a GOOD thing since as a traveller you are bound to socialize, Alain's storyline with Mairin highlights this, there's no point in winning if nobody's cheering you on.
Ash is an amateur battler by heart, he does Pokemon League stuff for fun, to be the very best is a distant motivation that he doesn't spend too much time thinking upon, if anything, he just likes travelling and interacting with people and Pokemon more than anything else, Ash is the ultimate /padt/ tourist.
The ashnime's message is that without living a fun social life, the aim and journey to success and victory is not worth it, you have to balance this stuff out or sth like that.
Post XY though, I don't even know what it's about anymore since there's no leagues anymore

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:51:17 No.50372937 Report

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>>50372840
>>50372858
>>50372870
>>50372905
>>50372929
Dumb Amourkeks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:51:45 No.50372943 Report

Quoted By: >>50372964

>>50372886
Dawn is explicitly portrayed as lesbian inclined, keep in mind that girls at that age are more mature and socially smarter than boys so I don't see her wanting to unironically marry Ash or anybody male in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:51:59 No.50372944 Report

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>>50372886
So are they about the same height now?

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:55:14 No.50372963 Report

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:55:22 No.50372964 Report

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>>50372943
True

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:56:54 No.50372971 Report

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"There's a time and place for everything, but not now"
-Oak to all Shippingfags.

Save it when they either explicitly sink amour or raise the sails for any pairing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 13:58:20 No.50372978 Report

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>>50372963
>OTP
Anime Serena is now into Producer San(s) to boost her idol career.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:00:10 No.50372984 Report

Quoted By: >>50373043

>>50372844
>>50372844
>That matching a Champion example was after two losses to Alain. The loss after loss AFTER LOSS was alongside Diantha.
Lost in trimming. I did bring it up, but my message was way beyond 2k words. Cut me some slack, will ya? It still doesn't completely negate the point, because his losses against Shota (which I did mention) and Wulfric were both due to his lack of control over AG still end up happening. And let's be honest, your example was also 'cherry picking' to find two episodes written by the same writer to draw character equivalence where there is none. I didn't call you out on your disingenuous comparison, you don't call me out on exceeding the world limit. Capeesh?
> Except it's a blatant regression of his character that contradicts the backbone of his character that he's been affirming in every other series up to that point.
Dude, WHAT backbone? Are you saying it's unrealistic for someone to keep losing all the time and go into a depression where they start wondering if they're not 'good enough'? it was out of character, sure, but people go 'out of character' in real life too. People aren't strong and consistent enough to get up after every punch, especially when they're experiencing a winning high for the first time. Also, why are you talking like Ash is a super consistent character when he's probably one of the least consistent characters in this whole SHOW? Most people could divide him into at least 4 different characters kek
> The ways in which Ash progresses his mastery of Ash-Greninja have been thematically contradictory
Because you're compressing Ash and Greninja's character arc down to 'h-he wanted to win real bad that's it!' which is accurate, but not the whole story. Hell, it's more consistent with Ash to do things because he wants to 'win really, really bad' than it is for him to 'rest really, really hard'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:01:11 No.50372992 Report

Quoted By: >>50373004 >>50373110

>>50372930
>Tyson - actually well written frienderino power
Fucking based
>Ash's strategy is sporadic speed and the reason why he doesn't win is really spelt out as the fact that he just detracts way too much from actual training to hang out with his companions
That's not true in DP, and Ash watching Dawn's contests is both training, and socializing with his companions to an extent.
>Ash is an amateur battler by heart, he does Pokemon League stuff for fun, to be the very best is a distant motivation that he doesn't spend too much time thinking upon, if anything, he just likes travelling and interacting with people and Pokemon more than anything else, Ash is the ultimate /padt/ tourist.
By the time in the Alder episode in BW where he asked him what does it mean to be a Pokemon Master and he had no response, yes, but by SM20 no.
>The ashnime's message is that without living a fun social life, the aim and journey to success and victory is not worth it, you have to balance this stuff out or sth like that.
But you already said he does this in XY, so why did he lose then?
>Post XY though, I don't even know what it's about anymore since there's no leagues anymore
There was a league in Alola, and Ash was so social in Alola he even got a whole second family.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:02:12 No.50373000 Report

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>>50372873
> baitbaitbaitbait
Opinion disregarded
>>50372882
> I've proven
literally nothing. As someone who's been watching since OS, SM 'Ash' isn't Ash.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:03:07 No.50373004 Report

Quoted By: >>50373021 >>50373069

>>50372992
Does the league even matter?
I mean just compare it to the other ones, plus the steps of it, and its literally more underwhelming than the Orange League.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:04:01 No.50373011 Report

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>>50372638
Kill yourself, Famon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:04:30 No.50373014 Report

Quoted By: >>50373110

>>50372930
The ashnime's moral is 'buy our merch', and the guy you're replying to is blatantly ignoring it because he can't admit that the anime has no narrative consistency whatsoever. It's what happens when you refuse to admit that you're watching absolute garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:05:39 No.50373021 Report

Quoted By: >>50373083

>>50373004
It doesn't, but he'll write 5 essays on it because 'A-ARORA HERPED HIM WIN!', when the reason he actually won was because of agitated fans and staff members who were sick of seeing Ash lose all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:07:29 No.50373027 Report

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I feel there should by Cynthia vs Iris since Iris on BW series shown a huge admiration toward Cynthia. Furthermore it would be cool to see Iris's Haxorus battling Garchamp again whom he challenged as an Axew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:08:47 No.50373033 Report

Quoted By: >>50373054 >>50373058

>>50372930
The fact he is introduced as Palet Town's newcomer and not Alola champion proves this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:09:54 No.50373040 Report

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A-ro-ra!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:11:03 No.50373043 Report

Quoted By: >>50373130

>>50372984
>Lost in trimming. I did bring it up, but my message was way beyond 2k words. Cut me some slack, will ya?
I get it, but to ignore it is disingenuous in the face of my asserting the structural flaws that the writers failed to pay attention.
>it was out of character, sure, but people go 'out of character' in real life too.
I would criticize real life as being poorly written as well then.
>Also, why are you talking like Ash is a super consistent character when he's probably one of the least consistent characters in this whole SHOW?
Because it and every other instance of such a major break from the spine of his character are bad writing.
>which is accurate, but not the whole story
What is the whole story then? Also, thanks for conceding every point you raised and I Countered while also still pretending you didn't, that totally doesn't get old no matter how many times I have these kinds of debates with XYfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:12:13 No.50373054 Report

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>>50373033
He's both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:13:40 No.50373058 Report

Quoted By: >>50373093

>>50373033
They even mentioned Alain's stupid fucking Conference title. 'Champion Ash' rings so fucking hollow, but people will always call that farmers' league 'GOOD WRITING' because 'ARORA'.
Imagine caring so much about one region in the anime and so little about the character whose story you've been following for more than 2 decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:15:26 No.50373069 Report

Quoted By: >>50373114

>>50373004
>16 episodes
>every Ash battle shown
>build up with Kukui and having them both help the other achieve their dream
I think the question is did any other league, except DP, even matter at this point.

Captcha: jmkay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:16:55 No.50373078 Report

Quoted By: >>50373239

Ash needs a action tomboy gf who can be surprsingly feminine when she feels like it, preferably one who has a Pikachu her of own

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:17:42 No.50373083 Report

Quoted By: >>50373111

>>50373021
>but he'll write 5 essays on it
You wish it were just 5. I also like OS, AG, and DP but when people only want to talk about how Alola is the best what else can I do but abide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:19:58 No.50373093 Report

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>>50373058
>Imagine caring so much about one region in the anime
Yeah, imagine being Ash.
Also, why does caring about one region equate to not caring about Ash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:24:38 No.50373110 Report

Quoted By: >>50373170 >>50373240

>>50372992
>why did he lose in XY
By XY, he was already confident enough in himself and seemed to be quite self aware of his "sporadic" strategy of taking fast advantage of inevitable spontaneous unpredictable battle field changes in real time. This is a good strategy for somebody like Ash who trains all possible battlefield outcomes in battles everyday but it's not perfect, in fact there is no perfect strategy in the ashnime verse, it's quite vulnerable to opponents who have a very well worked out consistent plan.
He objectively lost because he wasted time with the XY gang's usual companion drama so from his perspective it was more like he willingly reduced his chances of winning in exchange for having some social fun.
It's not like he was totally mopped in the League, he was on the verge of defeating Alain, if he trained with Pikachu and Greninja a bit more he could have won and he did have a chance but having social fun was also a top priority for him and it always was.
>>50373014
as this guy says, post XY there is no narrative consistency since they turned what is a well established soft shounen show with it's own universe into a cliche kodomomuke Yokai Watch clone to keep the Japanese kodomos ratings afloat, please tell what even is there to analyze writing wise in SM and JN if the League Quest narration that holds the whole ashnime together is gone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:24:50 No.50373111 Report

Quoted By: >>50373115 >>50373118 >>50373163

>>50373083
I will never get why people like AG or consider it one of the best. Bad seasons like Johto and BW aside, AG is so bland

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:26:18 No.50373114 Report

Quoted By: >>50373165

>>50373069
>League was brought to life to bring attention to Alola and it's prospects
>Only locals remember Ash
Kukui's dream was shattered from the moment he declared it was free to enter for everyone.

Also
>every Ash battle shown
Ash vs Labschizo
>Oneshot
>Mythical pokemon one-shots
>No better than Darkrai vs Torkoal
Ash vs Hau
>shitty callback to Squirtle being ruled out to sleep with Rowlet
>Hau literally is just there
Ash vs Guzma was legit the only good Ash-battle
Ash vs Gladion, Finals being 3vs3 is already shit. But let's just skip to the Doggo Match.
>Same fighting pattern as Kalos League, replace Dragon Claw with Stone Edge
>Feint-out Infernape-style
>Counter vs Counter, a move never shown or used by Ash's, WHICH WAS NEVER USED OR MENTIONED BY HIM BEFORE AND AFTERWARDS
Ash vs Kukui is just the Exhibition Match, which got mentioned as a prize for winning the conference, with Mask Royale, what got fucked since he got unmasked during the Ultra-Beast Invasion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:26:21 No.50373115 Report

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>>50373111
Build up for DPkino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:27:47 No.50373118 Report

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>>50373111
I personally thought it was a less bland arc, my only issue with it is that Ash didn’t have a rival at all while May had two great ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:31:00 No.50373130 Report

Quoted By: >>50373217

>>50373043
Okay, so I read your whole post and I think I remember you from somewhere. You'll bullheadedly ignore all flaws in Alola while exaggerating XY's worst moments because of the hate boner you have for the series and the deep-seated (almost disturbing) love you have for Alola. You'll pretend you 'won' and that people 'conceded', because you literally cannot accept anyone else's viewpoints as valid; to the point where you'll, as you say, 'criticize real life for being poorly-written' (lol), apparently.
Anyway, I'm not gonna argue with you and bash my head on a wall anymore, because arguing against delusional seriesfags is completely impossible, especially when you've deluded yourself into thinking S/M is a masterwork of television writing.
I'm not an 'XYfag' as you claim btw, I'm a fan of the series from OS-DP and XY, with OS being my all-time favorite and DP being a close second. You can pretend 'only XYfags like XY!!!' all you wish, if that is what makes you feel better. That won't change the fact that (You)r series was a poorly written Yo-Kai Watch ripoff, and that its failure is why we're at JN, a season that has NO connective tissue to any season whatsoever and wastes its time wanking what came before it (except Alola apparently, funnily enough).
Take this as my concession, just like you took your concessional Alola victory. I hope this nothingburger 'win' makes you happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:35:58 No.50373160 Report

Quoted By: >>50373215

I don't think some of you have watched Yokai Watch...

Anyways... If some old companions and rivals watch Ash's battles, would You like some of them to interact? still waiting for the May/Dawn/Serena interactions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:36:03 No.50373163 Report

Quoted By: >>50373177

>>50373111
May actually got romance'd therefore achieving more than any other character in the show ever did.
No, I don't like Iris becoming a Champion because she should have at least participated in the Unova League and got to 2nd place at least. When somebody like Ash who does this stuff for like 6 regions can't do it, Iris achieving Champion status in the span of 2 regions feels very disingenious since we never see her motivation or training, hell JN should have done OVAs for her like for Alain where they'd show her adventure but JN has inconsistent writing that they don't even wanna do a decent retcon for.
Serena being Ash's childhood frienderino was done really well in contrast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:36:38 No.50373165 Report

Quoted By: >>50373199

>>50373114
>Kukui's dream was shattered from the moment he declared it was free to enter for everyone.
Didn't really seem like it when he was geeking out with his and Ash's battle autism.
>Ash vs Labschizo
it was funny
>shitty callback to Squirtle being ruled out to sleep with Rowlet
It was like the Gliscor Drapion fight, showing a mon can be strong while retaining their quirky personality. A different trainer might try to change Rowlet's habit, but Ash trained him while keeping it.
>Counter vs Counter, a move never shown or used by Ash's, WHICH WAS NEVER USED OR MENTIONED BY HIM BEFORE AND AFTERWARDS
Yeah because Ash thought of using it at that moment knowing that it might cost him that match. Showing his trust in dog and lack of a cripling desire to win.
>Mask Royale, what got fucked since he got unmasked during the Ultra-Beast Invasion.
The only thing that was fucked in that battle was not having Ash and Kukui recognize each other as the Move King and Gao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:37:21 No.50373169 Report

Quoted By: >>50373185 >>50373208 >>50373209 >>50373268

There are 3 things that bothering me --

1. Will Ash get his rematch with Alain and win? Or Alain going to be knock out by somebody else?
2. Is the anime going to make Alain win the whole PWC despite the backlash that was caused by the Kalos League?
3. Is this really going to be Ash's final series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:37:31 No.50373170 Report

Quoted By:

>>50373110
>what even is there to analyze writing wise in SM and JN if the League Quest narration that holds the whole ashnime together is gone?
'A-ARORA GOOD GUYS! ARORA HERP SATOSHI WIN!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:38:21 No.50373177 Report

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>>50373163
Yeah, I agree the Iris thing was rushed but I think you went into a tangent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:39:04 No.50373185 Report

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>>50373169
1. Rematch and win, will be a fucking redemption match.
2.No
3.Still out in the open, despite it being from a objective being more final than ever before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:40:42 No.50373199 Report

Quoted By: >>50373224

>>50373165
>Yeah because Ash thought of using it at that moment knowing that it might cost him that match.
They literally broke their formula for Ash's League battles for this instance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:42:28 No.50373208 Report

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>>50373169
>1. Will Ash get his rematch with Alain and win? Or Alain going to be knock out by somebody else?
***LOGIC*** says that it's gonna be a rematch. And Ash will win this time. After all, why would they bring him back if not for that?
Sure, someone else could knock him out and then have Ash defeat whoever knock him out and in that ***prove*** he's stronger than Alan by proxy but we all know that is not satisfying at all in any way shape or form.
But as we all know the anime loves to throw ***LOGIC*** out of the window so until what happens happens all we can do is pray and hope that they don't fuck it up. Again.
>2. Is the anime going to make Alain win the whole PWC despite the backlash that was caused by the Kalos League?
C'mon son.
>3. Is this really going to be Ash's final series?
C'mon son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:42:29 No.50373209 Report

Quoted By: >>50373231

>>50373169
1. Yes and yes. It's a redemption match to apologize to XYfags...again.
2. No, he's only here to lose to Ash. He probably won't even fight anyone else.
3. No, they've intentionally made his goal super vague to drag the series out. Anyone who says otherwise is a delusional copelord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:42:40 No.50373211 Report

Quoted By: >>50373264

I liked the Alola league but the Hau battle was so mean spirited for the sake of a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:42:46 No.50373212 Report

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Where did the Alain & Steven poster came from? Normally Animpedia & Push release poster of the character that are set to appear within 1 0r 2 month.

Furthermore is there going to be another Break? We just got only one title for this month.

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:43:02 No.50373215 Report

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>>50373160
I want Giselle to come back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:43:03 No.50373217 Report

Quoted By: >>50373266

>>50373130
>because you literally cannot accept anyone else's viewpoints as valid
No, It's because nobody else, so far, has produced valid viewpoints.
>to the point where you'll, as you say, 'criticize real life for being poorly-written' (lol), apparently.
Is it not?
>Anyway, I'm not gonna argue with you and bash my head on a wall anymore, because arguing against delusional seriesfags is completely impossible, especially when you've deluded yourself into thinking S/M is a masterwork of television writing.
Okay, as long as you're totally not conceding any of your points and totally not agreeing with mine.
>That won't change the fact that (You)r series was a poorly written Yo-Kai Watch ripoff
But not enough so that you can actually dispute any of my claims, right?
>Okay, so I read your whole post and I think I remember you from somewhere.
Well I'd think you would, seeing as I am in fact THE POWER OF ALOLA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:44:03 No.50373224 Report

Quoted By: >>50373280

>>50373199
Yeah, it was based as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:44:43 No.50373231 Report

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>>50373209
Small correction: 'Yes' and 'no' on #1

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:45:02 No.50373235 Report

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is she autistic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:45:19 No.50373239 Report

Quoted By: >>50373363

>>50373078
Cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:45:24 No.50373240 Report

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>>50373110
>having some social fun
There was fun in XY?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:46:08 No.50373250 Report

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>>50373247
>>50373247
>>50373247

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:46:20 No.50373251 Report

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Imagine if the Master 08 was --

> Palmer and Regigigas
> Trobias and his Legendary
> Benga, Alder's Grandson
> Anabel and her telepathy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:47:30 No.50373264 Report

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>>50373211
In what way? Losing is to be an expected outcome in competitive situations, and the way he lost was more compelling for his character than anything before it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:47:40 No.50373266 Report

Quoted By: >>50373288

>>50373217
NTA but if you think there's no valid criticisms against Alola in this whole thread, then you're literally just a delusional Alolafag who huffs his own farts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:47:53 No.50373268 Report

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>>50373169
>1
he will job to one of the females maybe cynthia or the real kalos CHAMP
>2
the final boss is leon not him this season is not XYZ, megas are outdated gimmick
>3
YES

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:49:44 No.50373280 Report

Quoted By: >>50373295

>>50373224
>Breaking formula for damage control is based
get out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:51:04 No.50373288 Report

Quoted By: >>50373298

>>50373266
>NTA but if you think there's no valid criticisms against Alola in this whole thread, then you're literally just a delusional Alolafag who huffs his own farts.
Or maybe you're all just that bad at analyzing the anime. But in all seriousness, I haven't been keeping track of every criticism of Alola and am referring to arguments that have been made at me.
Also, I don't huff my own farts, I Huff the farts of ALOLA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:52:06 No.50373295 Report

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>>50373280
Seriously, no sense of humor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:52:44 No.50373298 Report

Quoted By: >>50373308

>>50373288
> critically analyzing THIS anime
Holy fuck watch good shows for once, Pokémon is a shit-tier kids' anime with worse writing than Naruto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:54:28 No.50373308 Report

Quoted By: >>50373324

>>50373298
Naruto is one of the most thematically compelling Shonen Jump manga I read, but okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 14:56:59 No.50373324 Report

Quoted By: >>50373361

>>50373308
> naruto
> 'thematically good'
...no wonder you like Alola kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 15:03:23 No.50373361 Report

Quoted By: >>50373696

>>50373324
The "underdog narrative" was a short meme before Kishimoto got to explore nuanced ideas like the cycle of hatred and vengeance, the causes of war, fate, destiny, and what one would have to do to create a better world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 15:04:29 No.50373363 Report

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>>50373239
Exactly

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 15:08:52 No.50373385 Report

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>>50371277
Power Couple

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Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 15:19:16 No.50373439 Report

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>>50371978
Updated version

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 16:05:40 No.50373696 Report

Quoted By: >>50373854

>>50373361
...sure anon, whatever helps you cope.
('thematically good', he says...)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 16:35:47 No.50373854 Report

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>>50373696
Surely at least DPfags would appreciate the narrative of a good series spaning rivalry and not be as stupid about Naruto as other series fags are about SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 18:41:45 No.50374578 Report

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>>50371926
>Tobias
He will lose to CHADIZARD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzqJFp8_7WE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 19:07:02 No.50374803 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-24DMtHQ7fU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 19:14:14 No.50374854 Report

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I just want the match commentator to mention that Ash has strong ties with basically of the other 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 May 2022 19:41:30 No.50375113 Report

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>>50372929
Holy fuck, Ash is a fucking DILF.

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