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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 02:18:54 No.52013935 View View Reply Original Report

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AHAHAHAH GET FUCKED STUPID MUPPET!!!!! YEAH COME HERE AGAINST MY BISHARP OR CORVIKNIGHT I WANT TO GET SOME FREE SETUP!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 02:54:18 No.52014945 Report

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>No Huge Power
L

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:01:43 No.52015149 Report

Quoted By: >>52015218

>>52013935
it has way too much special attack, they should've moved 40 points from sp. attack to attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:02:37 No.52015177 Report

Quoted By: >>52015402 >>52015735

>>52013935
Pickpocket?
PICKPOCKET?
PICKPOCKET
PICKPOCKET
FUCK YOU GAMEFREAK
PICKPOCKET

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:04:00 No.52015210 Report

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>>52013935
gen 9's vikavolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:04:19 No.52015218 Report

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>>52015149
Because it learns a good amount of special moves. It's legitimately a mixed attacker learnset.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:04:58 No.52015236 Report

Quoted By: >>52015313

KNEEL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:05:41 No.52015256 Report

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>>52013935
>Mold Breaker/Own Tempo/Pickpocket
I will never forgive Gamefreak. Steely Spirit? Steelworker? Huge Power was a huge cope but literally fucking anything other than fucking Own Tempo or Pickpocket god damn. God DAMN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:06:02 No.52015268 Report

Quoted By: >>52015329 >>52015331 >>52015343 >>52015538

It could still get a marowak like signature hold item

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:06:25 No.52015275 Report

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give it 10 more speed and it's an interesting banded attacker
i'll still try to force it to work though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:08:18 No.52015313 Report

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>>52015236
I kneel hes is like ursaluna

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:08:56 No.52015325 Report

Quoted By: >>52015348 >>52015363

>>52013935
>Gamefreak cucking another gen with garbage stat spreads

Honestly though it's still probably decent enough to get UU or better just because fairy/steel is that good and it gets a good movepool. "Mawile but better" is enough of a tagline for experimentation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:08:58 No.52015329 Report

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>>52015268
giving GF way too much credit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:09:02 No.52015331 Report

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>>52015268
Don't give me hope. There's such a tiny chance of that happening but it makes a lot of sense if there was some sort of Iron Hammer item or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:09:35 No.52015343 Report

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>>52015268
listen dude I'm a coper too but it's time to give up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:10:03 No.52015348 Report

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>>52015325
At least Mawile has a good ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:10:41 No.52015363 Report

Quoted By: >>52015417 >>52016033

>>52015325
Klefki has a better spread, ability, and movepool and it's only RU in Swooshie so I would love a hit of the crackpipe you're clearly smoking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:12:34 No.52015400 Report

Quoted By: >>52015461

>252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Tinkaton Gigaton Hammer 0 HP / 0- Def Pawniard: 250-295 (108.2 - 127.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
lmao
even with absolutelty optimal conditions it can barely OHKO a pawniard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:12:36 No.52015402 Report

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>>52013935
Easily one of the worst mistake GF has ever made. Tinkaton should have AT Least 100 attack.

>>52015177
Exactly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:13:04 No.52015417 Report

Quoted By: >>52015476 >>52015565 >>52015577 >>52015687

>>52015363
but 160 base power attack though
jeeves, pull up the banded damage calcs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:13:33 No.52015434 Report

Quoted By: >>52015496

>>52013935
I suppose you could use Mold Breaker to flinch Bisharps with Inner Focus? I don't know enough about Bisharp to know if that ability sees much use, though.
I guess you could also ignore Mirror Armor to lower the stats of Corviknight?
Pretty disappointing though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:14:37 No.52015461 Report

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>>52015400
Whoops, forgot to change the ability from Sheer Force
So it can't at all LMAO

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:15:09 No.52015476 Report

Quoted By: >>52015529

>>52015417
>banded
>struggles every other turn
Adjusted Mawile's stats (had to actually lower its attack lmfao cool) and gave Iron Head 160 power against a punching bag 0/0 Mew. Doesn't seem that crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:15:55 No.52015496 Report

Quoted By: >>52015513

>>52015434
If it gets Double Iron Bash (giving GF too much credit) it could be handy for dealing with Inner Focus mons EXCEPT Bisharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:16:46 No.52015513 Report

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>>52015496
There's no fucking way. Probably won't even get Iron Head knowing Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:17:02 No.52015520 Report

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>>52013935
Gamefreak learned their lesson with Zacian, every Fairy/Steel is going to be mid from now on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:17:24 No.52015529 Report

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>>52015476
j-jeeves, adjust the calcs
they, uh, gave tinkaton huge power in the, uh, super hidden 4th ability

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:17:44 No.52015538 Report

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>>52015268
I'll hop on this train, I just want this mon to be good. I love the design too much not to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:18:20 No.52015557 Report

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tinka who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:18:37 No.52015565 Report

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>>52015417
Not a big deal at all, especially with that trash ass attacking stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:18:42 No.52015569 Report

Quoted By: >>52015599 >>52015617 >>52015649 >>52015707

>Gets Fake Out
>Gets Knock Off
>Has solid bulk
It’s a support mon, retards. You just click Hammer for random damage bursts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:18:42 No.52015570 Report

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Fairies are consistently the best mons introduced in newer gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:18:50 No.52015577 Report

Quoted By: >>52015666

>>52015417
>160 power on one of the worst offensive typings
who cares, tyrantrum is RU or some shit and he's a head smash sweeper with an actual offensive power and typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:19:28 No.52015599 Report

Quoted By: >>52015770

>>52015569
But actual STRONG Pokemon get those too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:20:25 No.52015617 Report

Quoted By: >>52015770

>>52015569
Cringe, it should be smacking bitches left and right with that giant hammer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:21:17 No.52015649 Report

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>>52015569
This
Slap assault vest on it (look at that fucking special defense stat) 252 HP 252 attack or whatever is optimal bulk, have it slap things in doubles while being immune to intimidate attack drop and being generally annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:21:52 No.52015662 Report

Quoted By: >>52015772

someone post a screenshot so i know who we are talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:21:59 No.52015666 Report

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>>52015577
>6 weakness
>71 speed
>80% acc on Head Smash
>Bends to steel types

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:22:18 No.52015676 Report

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>>52013935
Link it discord faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:22:52 No.52015687 Report

Quoted By: >>52015709 >>52016119

>>52015417
252+ Atk Choice Band Tinkatonk Gigaton Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Pawniard: 222-261 (96.1 - 112.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:23:33 No.52015707 Report

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>>52015569
some random Italian guy will find a good team to build around it and get top 8 at worlds
book it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:23:37 No.52015709 Report

Quoted By: >>52015785

>>52015687
Literally incompatible with Choice Band.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:24:39 No.52015735 Report

Quoted By: >>52015750

>>52015177
Implies it's actually too weak to prey upon Pawniard, Bisharp, and Corviknight, so it has to use underhanded methods to get metal for its hammer. Not a "bad" concept, but GF should've gone ahead and gave Tinkaton huge power or something and left the implied lore for the base stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:25:28 No.52015750 Report

Quoted By: >>52015895 >>52016826

>>52015735
You're giving their designers way too much credit. It's more like the design, lore, and balance teams don't fucking talk to each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:26:16 No.52015770 Report

Quoted By: >>52015814

>>52015599
>>52015617
>Boohoo my Mary Sue mon has a niche but it’s not brainless hyper offense!

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:26:22 No.52015772 Report

Quoted By: >>52015831 >>52016145 >>52017400 >>52025905

>>52015662

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:26:57 No.52015785 Report

Quoted By: >>52015814

>>52015709
The assumption is that it would just use Struggle, like what happens when using Torment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:28:25 No.52015814 Report

Quoted By: >>52015913 >>52016066

>>52015770
You fucking retard, don't fucking design it as some badass with a fucking huge weapon then have it be a support mon. Surely you understand why the juxtaposition between its design and stats merit being upset. Retard. Jesus Christ almighty.
>>52015785
No shit. Choice Band Gigaton Hammer is a fucking meme because of that and no one would even dare use it. Calcs using choice band are fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:29:20 No.52015831 Report

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>>52015772
that looks fucking stupid not going to lie, i like bigger monsters better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:31:54 No.52015881 Report

Quoted By:

>no item list leak yet
THIS IS MY FINAL COPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:32:32 No.52015892 Report

Quoted By: >>52016398

Don't worry the day one update is huge and will probably update the abilities and stats aswell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:32:39 No.52015895 Report

Quoted By: >>52017264

>>52015750
Probably right, but I'd like to at least try to find some logical reasoning for what they did.

Speaking of Pickpocket, I always found it funny that it was introduced in Gen 5, and never given to Purrloin despite it being a pickpocketing cat thief. Someone needs to better hash out the Pokedex lore and abilities so they better align, since this is all about as silly as Pyroar getting Moxie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:33:11 No.52015913 Report

Quoted By: >>52015983

>>52015814
I genuinely don’t understand why people are upset, it seems really strong to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:36:11 No.52015983 Report

Quoted By: >>52016099

>>52015913
>really strong
with that spread i really cannot see this thing at a high level of competitive play

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:38:26 No.52016033 Report

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>>52015363
Are you actually retarded? In what world is having 30 less hp, 20 less speed, similar attacks, and worse defenses equates to a worse stat spread? Tinka has a better physical movepool than klef from just what we've seen on reeetards stream. Sure klef does have a better ability but prank wasn't the insane powerhouse it was in gen 6 and there actually is some abilities you want to turn off with this monlist. I'm not saying it's going straight to ubers but jesus. I forgot this is the board that thought phero was going to be nu trash when sm was datamined

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:38:34 No.52016035 Report

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>>52013935
So it's middle stage is better since you can just slap eviolite on it? I don't understand why it barely gets a stat buff between middle and final.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:39:34 No.52016066 Report

Quoted By: >>52016086

>>52015814
>NOOOO MY LOLIRINO ISN’T UBERS I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN CLICK MY 160BP EVERY OTHER TURN AHHHHH

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:40:33 No.52016086 Report

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>>52016066
No one's asking it to be ubers, stop fighting strawmen. I'd have been happy if it was 40 base speed but like 110 attack or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:41:05 No.52016099 Report

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>>52015983
It has fake out and stats to abuse assault vest and intimidate immunity, I don’t know if it will be meta but it is absolutely usable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:41:46 No.52016116 Report

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>>52013935
Why the fuck is one of the biggest stat boosts special attack for the final evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:41:54 No.52016119 Report

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>>52015687
>it's not even a 100% chance to OHKO a Pawniard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:42:37 No.52016143 Report

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Just let me force feed my Mawile a mega shard to give it a permanent but nerfed mega evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:42:43 No.52016145 Report

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>>52015772
>we want the Little Big Planet audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:53:42 No.52016398 Report

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>>52015892
remember when people said this about the oras demo and the only change was hoopa-u's signature move going from special to physical

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:55:12 No.52016434 Report

Quoted By: >>52016455 >>52016505 >>52016535 >>52016556 >>52016602 >>52016716 >>52017433

>>52013935
>Early leak season
>Riddlers say there is a new Fairy
>It's described as a "loli with a hammer"
>Coombrains go nuts, they start theorizing how hot and sexy this new waifubait will be
>Leak season ends
>It's actually a fucking retarded muppet, no sexual appeal whatsoever except for the truly lost
>Its shit in-game too with shit stats

Feels good man. Fuck you faggots. You wanted another Tsareena/Gardevoir/Hattrene, but instead you only got a forgettable shitmon that will be lost to the sands of time, just another footnote in history. It'll be down there in the lowest of tiers, irrelevant in all aspects.

You deserve it.

Captcha: TANKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:56:20 No.52016455 Report

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>>52016434
Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:58:19 No.52016505 Report

Quoted By: >>52016535

>>52016434
Remember when they said there'd be tons of waifus this gen too? And all we have is maybe Meowscarada but tons of faggot shit?
I'm not happy the gays won but I do love that c*mbrains lost so hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 03:59:37 No.52016535 Report

Quoted By: >>52016567

>>52016434
>>52016505
Who pissed in your soup?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:00:35 No.52016556 Report

Quoted By: >>52016668 >>52016763

>>52016434
friend, tinkaton is going to be the most popular non-starter pokemon of the entire generation
I'm like 80% sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:01:09 No.52016567 Report

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>>52016535
All me

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:02:45 No.52016602 Report

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>>52016434
It's the best possible news.
I like the little hammer muppet, and now that it wont be flavor of the month coombait or overpowered, I can use it and just have a fun, mediocre Pokmeon that I like for what it is, instead of being thrown on some degenerate wagon.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:03:18 No.52016613 Report

Quoted By: >>52016933 >>52017138

>>52013935
It's a shit design anyways. Not even cute enough for a loli, its more like a gremlin. Can't believe people were hyped for this shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:04:39 No.52016647 Report

Quoted By: >>52026196

Stinkaton being bad while Paradox Gallade gets godly stats is the best thing I ever could've asked for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:05:40 No.52016668 Report

Quoted By: >>52016782

>>52016556
>Ghost dog that will stay with you beyond death
This one will be the winner imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:07:16 No.52016716 Report

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>>52016434
This but also the square buckteeth especially put coomers on suicidewatch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:08:58 No.52016763 Report

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>>52016556
The reddit pigs would like to disagree. Also, dogs > non-dogs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:09:38 No.52016782 Report

Quoted By: >>52017085 >>52017337

>>52016668
I dunno, just screams "viral" to me. Did numbers on every site it was revealed on, extremely easy to make funny/cute fanart of, will probably get a Kotaku article titled "Pokemon Scarlet and Violet has a murderous pink muppet and That. Is. Everything."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:11:01 No.52016826 Report

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>>52015750
>It's more like the design, lore, and balance teams don't fucking talk to each other.
43 Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:15:55 No.52016933 Report

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>>52016613
From what I saw, a ton of people were still hyped after the design dropped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:22:57 No.52017085 Report

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>>52016782
...how much copium do I need to inhale to believe it will be so popular it will get a buff in the next games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:25:35 No.52017138 Report

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>>52016613
I wish I had a giant hammer for you >:(

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:30:35 No.52017264 Report

Quoted By: >>52017414 >>52017660

>>52015895
At the risk of sounding stupid, what's wrong with Pyroar having Moxie?
Whatever the case, I agree that it sometimes feels like the people that write the Pokedex Entries and design the Pokemon's battle capabilties don't communicate, and it gets annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:33:55 No.52017337 Report

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>>52016782
>will probably get a Kotaku article titled "Pokemon Scarlet and Violet has a murderous pink muppet and That. Is. Everything."
this headline doesn't even exist and reading it already makes me want to vomit profusely

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:36:14 No.52017400 Report

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>>52015772
Elmo's bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:36:41 No.52017414 Report

Quoted By: >>52017660

>>52017264
>what's wrong with Pyroar having Moxie?
it has 68 attack
for reference Sunflora has 75 attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:37:40 No.52017433 Report

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>>52016434
Hatterene and Tsareena aren't very sexualized by the fanbase doe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 04:47:12 No.52017660 Report

Quoted By: >>52020194

>>52017264
What this anon said >>52017414
Along with having a shitty physical movepool. It should've gotten a STAB Boomburst or something, and maybe Intimidate or Solarpower to better help.

But meh, unlike Pyroar maybe some creative person "might" find a workaround for Tinkaton.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 05:25:36 No.52018548 Report

Quoted By: >>52018667

Would steel tera type give gigaton double STAB?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 05:30:36 No.52018667 Report

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>>52018548
it should, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 05:31:13 No.52018683 Report

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>>52013935
Just abuse her with Swagger, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 06:37:23 No.52020083 Report

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item list when

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 06:43:19 No.52020194 Report

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>>52017660
the pokedex says something about Gigalith's crystals using solar power and it even learns solar beam but it has shit special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 07:34:28 No.52021068 Report

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>>52013935
> Be like Tinkaton
> Hold a fucking big hammer
> Does anyone want to see me perform some special moves?

At least this shit makes sense

> Pokedex: but the hammer is often stolen by Pokémon that eat metal
> Pickpocket

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 09:25:20 No.52023024 Report

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>>52013935
It's dex entry said it'd throw shit at Corviknight, it never said it would win the confrontation.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 11:07:02 No.52025707 Report

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>>52013935
>another special defense oriented fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 11:14:02 No.52025905 Report

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>>52015772
Isn't the hammer reversed in this pic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 11:24:27 No.52026196 Report

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>>52016647
>Iron Valiant gets spirit break
>Tinkaton doesn’t, even though this would make it more viable as at least an annoying support mon
Feels like Alola all over again where the regular mons were gimped so the UBs could be even better by comparison. Shame because Valiant and Tink are probably my two favorite designs this gen, I wanted both of them to be good.

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