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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:55:21 No.52047300 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>52047335 >>52047386 >>52047402 >>52047426 >>52047472 >>52047479 >>52047536 >>52047560 >>52047596 >>52047789 >>52047974 >>52048096 >>52048138 >>52048699 >>52048827 >>52048882 >>52049439 >>52050226 >>52050248

Has there ever been a worse design downgrade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:56:20 No.52047329 Report

Quoted By: >>52048234 >>52048909 >>52050270

dewott to samurott
fuecoco2 to fuecoco3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:56:29 No.52047335 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047300
I could name 20 from this gen alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:58:04 No.52047386 Report

Quoted By: >>52047599 >>52048797

>>52047300
Idk but Magmar to Magmortar is pretty close

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:58:36 No.52047402 Report

Quoted By: >>52048797

>>52047300
Magmortar is just as bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:59:15 No.52047426 Report

Quoted By: >>52047697

>>52047300
Bisharp to Kinggambet is even worse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:59:52 No.52047448 Report

Quoted By: >>52047579 >>52048017

This motherfucker right here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:00:31 No.52047472 Report

Quoted By: >>52047929

>>52047300
Rhyhorn to Rhydon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:00:45 No.52047479 Report

Quoted By: >>52047552

>>52047300

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:02:17 No.52047536 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047300
floette to florges is pretty meh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:02:53 No.52047552 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047479
Horrid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:03:04 No.52047560 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047300
Smoliv2 to Smoliv3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:03:43 No.52047579 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047448
Massive upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:04:11 No.52047596 Report

Quoted By: >>52047880

>>52047300
Yes he doesn't look as cool but they made him a tubby hubby and we can always use more daddy Pokemon desu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:04:19 No.52047599 Report

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>>52047386

Sadly most of the Gen4's new evos for old mons feel like downgrades, except maybe togekiss and Yanmega

Never been a fan of Mamoswine either, I get what they were trying to do with like a Piloswine tapping into it's old DNA and mammoths and all

But just never liked it's design and maybe it's the wierd blue mask.

That and I have always been one of few people who always loved Piloswine and I will always love hairy camel boar over a mammoth wearing a mask

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:07:23 No.52047697 Report

Quoted By: >>52047789 >>52047894 >>52047959 >>52048726

>>52047426

I like the Samari theme and idea but like.. Why is it sitting on it's ass and why does it have such huge child rearing dummy thicc hips?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:10:45 No.52047789 Report

Quoted By: >>52047967 >>52048726 >>52048838

>>52047697
Zoomer Nickelodeon humor
>>52047300
All middle evo starters to their final forms are huge downgrade except for Combusken and Monferno

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:13:23 No.52047880 Report

Quoted By: >>52048004

>>52047596
Rhyperior is top 3 Daddy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:13:46 No.52047894 Report

Quoted By: >>52048726

>>52047697
>Why is it sitting on it's ass
It's how samurai armor is traditionally displayed
>why does it have such huge child rearing dummy thicc hips?
See Bisharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:14:59 No.52047929 Report

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>>52047472
Based.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:16:09 No.52047959 Report

Quoted By: >>52048196 >>52048726

>>52047697
It's actually better from the back, since Japanese war helmets are called "kabuto", and kabuto is also the Japanese word for beetle, and with its massive horn, mustache, ribs and hair it actually looks like a massive metal beetle

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:16:15 No.52047967 Report

Quoted By: >>52048079 >>52048120

>>52047789

Except Rhydon was supposed to be and was designed to be a final evo so claiming it's just a middle evo when it's very design was created to be a final evolution makes no sense, it's design was peak and already finished

Not only that but it was the very first fully evolved Pokemon designed so it really was supposed to be the peak of Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:16:28 No.52047974 Report

Quoted By: >>52048002 >>52048036

>>52047300
Sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:17:16 No.52048002 Report

Quoted By: >>52048038

>>52047974
Rhydon came first

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:17:20 No.52048004 Report

Quoted By: >>52048211

>>52047880
More like Grandpa

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:17:46 No.52048017 Report

Quoted By: >>52048102 >>52048404

>>52047448
It was shit to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:18:32 No.52048036 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047974
Cute belly...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:18:32 No.52048038 Report

Quoted By: >>52048081

>>52048002
Retarded argument. They could have made them completely unrelated as they don't even share many features. But they chose to ruin Rhyhorn with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:19:47 No.52048079 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047967
I meant to say starters.
I hate typing on my tablet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:19:50 No.52048081 Report

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>>52048038
Oh, you are back

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:20:17 No.52048096 Report

Quoted By: >>52048165

>>52047300
Dusckull to Dusclops to Dusknoir
it's a straight line down

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:20:27 No.52048102 Report

Quoted By: >>52048139

>>52048017
I prefer the original, that redesign completely sucks the life out of him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:20:56 No.52048120 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047967
Evolution wasn't a thing during the debuts of Gen 1's development, and both Rhyhorn and Rhyfon were concieved at that time.
They're not made with one becoming the other.
You're just full of bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:21:32 No.52048138 Report

Quoted By: >>52050317

>>52047300
They ruined him
They ruined my boy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:21:36 No.52048139 Report

Quoted By: >>52048210

>>52048102
You deserve rape

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:22:07 No.52048156 Report

Quoted By: >>52048258 >>52048311 >>52050820

why did they make Rhydon anyway when there was already nidoking / queen. the designs are too similar

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:22:23 No.52048165 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048096
Agreed although I still like Dusclops, especially after using it. Reliable little guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:23:13 No.52048196 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047959
>he’s sitting on his own hair
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:23:48 No.52048210 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048139
It's like a zombie version of Crabrawler, with dreary washed out colors and skull-like face. If you prefer that over the original there might be something wrong with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:23:49 No.52048211 Report

Quoted By: >>52049292

>>52048004
>7' 10" hulking giant Rocky Rhino grandpa
Even better.
Rhyperior looks really old. Can totally be a war veteran. (Also being more strategic and less reckless than it's son)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:24:34 No.52048234 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047329
Cope furfaggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:25:07 No.52048258 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048156
This. Could've been scrapped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:26:59 No.52048311 Report

Quoted By: >>52048403

>>52048156
Rhydon came first

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:29:42 No.52048403 Report

Quoted By: >>52048419

>>52048311
And?
Could've scrap it for being just a draft for a more finalized creature (the Nidos)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:29:43 No.52048404 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048017
>it looks like shit, this one is better
>posts a literal crinkled up turd

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:30:19 No.52048419 Report

Quoted By: >>52048463 >>52048523

>>52048403
>Could've scrap it
No need for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:31:42 No.52048463 Report

Quoted By: >>52048529

>>52048419
Why there's no need to scrap an early prototype?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:33:29 No.52048512 Report

Quoted By: >>52048548 >>52048552 >>52048708

>before rhyperior - 2-stage shitmon line that looked unfinished
>after rhyperior - 3-stage shitmon line that is finally complete
Nothing changed, save you waking up to the reality Pokémon was never yours.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:33:50 No.52048523 Report

Quoted By: >>52048870

>>52048419

Only interesting thing about Nidoking and queen is despite being part posion type and their entries being about how deadly their posion is the strongest posion type move they could learn until Gen3 was posion sting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:34:06 No.52048529 Report

Quoted By: >>52048692 >>52048803

>>52048463
It's obviously not seen as a prototype, also they have different functions both in terms of gameplay and world building, with Nidoking using his horn to inflict poison and Rhydon using it as a drill to burrow underground

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:34:52 No.52048548 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048512

How in any way does Rhydon look unfinished?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:34:59 No.52048552 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048512
>Shitmon
Nah.
Rhydon was competent and Rhyperior is right now. They're not awful in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:36:06 No.52048692 Report

Quoted By: >>52050990

>>52048529
Beta Rhydon didn't even have the drill horn tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:36:24 No.52048699 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047300
Pokémon (the entire IP) gen 2 to gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:36:46 No.52048708 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048512
>looked unfinished
It looked just fine.
A brutish quadrupedal animal turns into an intelligent bipedal creature - it's a simple progression with a beginning and an end.
Then they turned it into a fat nigger with penis armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:37:26 No.52048726 Report

Quoted By: >>52048757

>>52047959
>>52047697
>>52047789
>>52047894
>>52047894
You are all wrong.
See >>52048524
Get cultured, zoomers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:38:29 No.52048757 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048726
Why do you think samurai armor is displayed that way in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:40:00 No.52048797 Report

Quoted By: >>52048968

>>52047386
>>52047402
>lame reddit duck
>evil looking volcano arm cannon monster
OP didn't say upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:40:08 No.52048803 Report

Quoted By: >>52048833

>>52048529

Don't forget about how Rhydon and Rhyhorns pokedex entries seem to enjoy shitting on them for being dumb, all along the lines of

"It charges into it's foes with immense strength and speed but can't slow down and will just on running forever if it misses it's foe as it's brain is the size of a pea it's so fucking dumb lmao'

Nidokings on the other hand are a lot more about how it uses it's tail and body weight to crush it's foes

Rhydon- Brute strength headbutts and speed tackles

Nidoking- Body slams and crushing

Both different Pokemon with different battleing styles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:41:07 No.52048827 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047300
Scyther -> Kleavor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:41:19 No.52048833 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048803
>Don't forget about how Rhydon and Rhyhorns pokedex entries seem to enjoy shitting on them for being dumb
Rhyhorn is the dumb one, he gains intelligence with evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:41:31 No.52048838 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047789
Monferno to Infernape is a huge downgrade sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:42:56 No.52048870 Report

Quoted By: >>52048912 >>52048947

>>52048523
pokemon existed in 1990?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:43:34 No.52048882 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047300
Bad take, the entire is good. There's just not enough fanart of them together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:44:38 No.52048909 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047329
strange, both of those are upgrades

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:44:42 No.52048912 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048870
Gen 1's Development started in 1990.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:46:13 No.52048947 Report

Quoted By: >>52049118

>>52048870

Yes, but only in very early concept art when the game was known as capsule monsters and was much more about collecting the 'monsters' and buying/selling them as opposed to what would later become Pokemon/Pocket Monsters and be much more battle focused

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:46:55 No.52048968 Report

Quoted By: >>52049001

>>52048797
Magmar is a combination of a duck, a oni and Hyottoko, a traditional character who puckers his mouth to spit fire through a bamboo cane.
It's a design that's rooted in culture while remaining interesting and original.
Magmortar is an obese man with black skin, thick fleshy lips and guns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:47:22 No.52048985 Report

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scyther> scizor and its not like i ahte scizor but they dont look like it were evolution and sycther should be drgaon bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:48:03 No.52049001 Report

Quoted By: >>52049023

>>52048968
So in other words Magmortar is the better design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:48:43 No.52049023 Report

Quoted By: >>52049337

>>52049001
Only for self-inserting basketball americans.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:52:08 No.52049118 Report

Quoted By: >>52049212 >>52049297

>>52048947

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:55:15 No.52049212 Report

Quoted By: >>52049302

>>52049118
>all trainers have backpacks and wear hiking attire
Soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:58:12 No.52049292 Report

Quoted By: >>52049433

>>52048211
True, imagine getting stronger as you get old

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:58:19 No.52049297 Report

Quoted By:

>>52049118
>Some got their final names (Cubone/Karakara, Gastly/Gōsu, Rhyhorn/Saihōn, Gyrados/Gyaradosu)
Neat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:58:37 No.52049302 Report

Quoted By: >>52050408

>>52049212

Don't forget the whips to keep their monsters under control.

This would later be seen as something the cooltrainers and team rocket members use in Gen1 as something from the concepts that remained but was never see again after that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:59:40 No.52049337 Report

Quoted By: >>52049541

>>52049023
And for people who want a good monster for battling, reddit duck can't do anything at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:02:35 No.52049433 Report

Quoted By:

>>52049292
And smarter. Rhyhorn is always described as dumb, and it got more intelligent when evolving in Rhydon...
Would've been perfect to see Rhyperior's descriptions saying that it is actually quite intelligent, possibly a master in some domain useful for the entire line (Mining, Combat, etc...)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:02:42 No.52049439 Report

Quoted By: >>52049499 >>52050444

>>52047300
all the gen 5 ripoffs of gen 1 pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:04:58 No.52049499 Report

Quoted By:

>>52049439

Even beta unused Tangrowth in early Gen2 development looked far better than the wierd caveman pink fingers Tangrowth we got in gen4

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:06:43 No.52049541 Report

Quoted By: >>52049663 >>52049799

>>52049337

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:10:31 No.52049663 Report

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>>52049541

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:14:19 No.52049799 Report

Quoted By: >>52049822

>>52049541
What site is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:15:00 No.52049822 Report

Quoted By: >>52050183

>>52049799
https://www.pikalytics.com/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:26:04 No.52050183 Report

Quoted By:

>>52049822
Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:27:52 No.52050226 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047300
Ryhorn to Rhydon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:28:35 No.52050248 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047300
thats an upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:29:36 No.52050270 Report

Quoted By:

>>52047329
those are upgrades

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:31:02 No.52050317 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048138
more like improved

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:33:51 No.52050408 Report

Quoted By:

>>52049302
wait i thought the gutarist had an amp plug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:34:52 No.52050444 Report

Quoted By:

>>52049439
fuck off and die

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:36:05 No.52050486 Report

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Chinchou to lanturn i loved the way its cross eyes look only to evolve into an anglerfish that looks like it was designed by Fisher Price

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:46:41 No.52050820 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048156
They are oddly similar designs.
Don't know why they kept both. Should have done more to differentiate them from one another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:52:30 No.52050990 Report

Quoted By:

>>52048692
One design had a tyranitar's tail

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