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What makes it Fighting type?

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:04:08 No.52269558 View View Reply Original Report

What makes it fucking Fighting type? What were they thinking? What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:04:41 No.52269565 Report

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moth punches you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:05:19 No.52269579 Report

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>>52269558
Feral moth

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:05:39 No.52269582 Report

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>>52269558
Give them a break. Boxing gloves weren't invented yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:05:44 No.52269583 Report

Quoted By: >>52269952 >>52279144

It's from a time where heavy duty boots didn't exist, so it had to adapt to not be 4x weak to sneaky pebbles

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:05:50 No.52269585 Report

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:06:08 No.52269589 Report

Quoted By: >>52269663 >>52273202 >>52274556 >>52274842 >>52275439 >>52275903 >>52277606 >>52278658 >>52284163 >>52294109 >>52303103 >>52309064

>>52269558
GF gave up on conceptualizing Fighting types that also translate the punching/grappling moves well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:09:12 No.52269625 Report

Quoted By: >>52269681 >>52295324

Paradox Pokemon are born from imagination, so the real question is why would someone imagine that Volcarona used to be a bug/fighting type millions of years ago
Personally I think it's because Larvesta is more of a physical attacker than Volcarona is. So whoever dreamed up Slither Mane considered if Volcarona had to evolve to become a special attacker and gain fire powers. It's kind of weird though because it's established that Volcarona as a bug/fire type is ancient, but if Slither is basically a hoax cryptid in a shitty magazine it'd make sense it directly contradicts that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:09:46 No.52269631 Report

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>>52269558
>fighting energy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:12:51 No.52269661 Report

Quoted By: >>52269887

It should've been Bug/Dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:12:58 No.52269663 Report

Quoted By: >>52269747 >>52272815 >>52273707 >>52274243

>>52269589
how is falinks a vague humanoid
i mean it's in roman armor but it's not anthropomorphic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:13:41 No.52269673 Report

Quoted By: >>52269946 >>52271670

what other type would it have, that isnt just bug fire or poison?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:14:59 No.52269681 Report

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>>52269625
>Paradox Pokemon are born from imagination
what is this headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:21:50 No.52269747 Report

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>>52269663
It's one of those lists that intentionally puts stupid shit here and there to bait people into replying. He keeps posting it everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:25:22 No.52269784 Report

Quoted By: >>52269802 >>52269822 >>52271988 >>52283654

>>52269681
If you look at the entries of the paradox Pokemon in the opposite versions they note how they first appeared in cryptid magazines and the like.
The scarlet book is full of old timey illustrations right out of old timey snakeoil salesmen manuals. The herba mystica entry is the most blatant callback to this.
The professor wished for an extra pair of hands and just so happened to end up with a super advanced robot indistinguishable from them?
The researchers + professor admit the crystals are powerful and unpredictable and have no idea how they really work.
For some reason the machine can catch Pokemon from the past and future, but can't be returned. People can't actually use the machine to time travel for some reason.
A journal in one of the research stations describes a being made of hexagons that is the source of tera that we haven't seen yet. There's a datamined page of the Scarlet book with a picture of it. This doesn't lend itself to any theory but it's weird.
Scream Tail Jigglypuff is described as being from one billion years ago.
There's more but that's what I know off the top of my head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:26:48 No.52269802 Report

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>>52269784
>datamined
Nigger its just sitting in the main lobby. Its not some secret image hidden in the game.
Same goes for the "cut for DLC" paradoxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:28:10 No.52269822 Report

Quoted By: >>52269851 >>52279320

>>52269784
>The scarlet book is full of old timey illustrations right out of old timey snakeoil salesmen manuals. The herba mystica entry is the most blatant callback to this.
Is it snakeoil if the Herba Mystica actually works though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:28:47 No.52269827 Report

Quoted By: >>52269863

>>52269802
Oh cool, didn't know that. I just know there's the text entry describing the hexagon creature but there wasn't a picture with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:29:59 No.52269843 Report

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>>52269558
>What makes it fucking Fighting type?
bad design.
Everything bad in this gen is because of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:30:51 No.52269851 Report

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>>52269822
That's the point. It does work but only because someone took a snakeoil ad at face value and believed hard enough. Even the way each herb is described is like how random women will tell you milk thistle will stop wrinkles.
It's all very intentional.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:31:51 No.52269863 Report

Quoted By: >>52269876 >>52278031 >>52291230 >>52293140 >>52298363

>>52269827
Yeah its kinda funny, you can literally just run to it the second you gain access to the school lobby.
It has a picture though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:32:54 No.52269876 Report

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>>52269863
There's another journal in area 0 that has the text with no black boxes and no picture. That's the one I was thinking of.
It's kind of weird they put it in two different places.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:33:56 No.52269887 Report

Quoted By: >>52270630

>>52269661
nothing about it is even remotely dragon

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:34:02 No.52269890 Report

Quoted By: >>52269922

>>52269558

>None of the months got setup moves
>Fucking roaring moon who has almost m-mence stats kept DD

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:37:46 No.52269922 Report

Quoted By: >>52273609 >>52279320

>>52269890
>iron moth has fiery dance
>slither wing has bulk up
Huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:39:14 No.52269946 Report

Quoted By: >>52289511

>>52269673
Dragon easily. Abdomen is literally a spiked reptile tail

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 13:39:39 No.52269952 Report

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>>52269583
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:17:46 No.52270376 Report

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Future paradox mons are electric types because they're robots and need an electrical source to function

Past paradox mons are fighting type because they are feral dinosaurs fighting to survive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:21:38 No.52270415 Report

Quoted By: >>52283877 >>52294361

isn't fighting type considered the "good" or "sacred" type in Japanese?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:23:07 No.52270431 Report

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>>52269558
Game Freak no longer cares about what fighting type actually represents and will slap it on anything that just so happens to be pretty good at fighting besides Quaquaval which is a stretch in it's own right and new forms of other fighting types no new fighting types appear to have inspiration from or practice martial arts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:29:45 No.52270502 Report

Quoted By: >>52270524 >>52270983

>>52270431
bullfighting can be considered a martial art of sorts if you think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:31:17 No.52270524 Report

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>>52270502
Samba is not a martial art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:32:34 No.52270533 Report

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>>52269558
It should have been bug dragon with dragon dance. We have been robbed
>i-its not a dragon its not supposed to be a dragon!!!!
Shut up.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:40:55 No.52270630 Report

Quoted By: >>52274728

>>52269887
Yeah bro nothing draconic about this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:49:08 No.52270747 Report

Quoted By: >>52270802 >>52271562 >>52289129

>>52270524
Dancers being associated with Fighting type is not new, see Hitmontop and Meloetta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 14:53:55 No.52270802 Report

Quoted By: >>52270952 >>52271617

>>52270747
Capuera or whatever that martial art is called is a thing, I think that's what qualaval is based on

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:05:43 No.52270952 Report

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>>52270802
capoeira is a martial art in name only. it's more of a dancing game. there's a reason no one uses it to actually fight. the only place where it's ever been used successfully is folkore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:07:42 No.52270983 Report

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>>52270502
>Bull fighting
>Fighting bull
Yeah it’s not hard to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:49:17 No.52271562 Report

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>>52270747
Capoeira and Samba are different things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:52:40 No.52271617 Report

Quoted By: >>52307277

>>52270802
Nope. Capoeira movements are similar to hitmontop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthNTSgjql8
Samba is just a dance https://youtu.be/Iy57-_Jp0ro?t=27
Note that the way the duck dances is how women dance samba.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:53:14 No.52271627 Report

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>>52269558
>What makes it fucking Fighting type? What were they thinking? What the fuck?

Killer Moth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:53:21 No.52271629 Report

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>>52269558
It can fight, so it's fighting type. Simple as. In fact, all Pokemon should be fighting type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:55:35 No.52271670 Report

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>>52269673
Bug/dragon easy. We were robbed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:59:02 No.52271718 Report

Quoted By: >>52271815

Sometimes it feels like Game Freak is intentionally trying to avoid a certain type combo.
Like how they have missed several logical choices for Ghost/Rock.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 15:59:49 No.52271731 Report

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>>52269558
I saw that and I was like: So someone picture what if Godzilla & Mothra had a child and imagine it to make this Paradox Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:04:24 No.52271815 Report

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>>52271718
For the Electric type combos if feels like they deliberately held back on them just so they could give them to the shitty Pikaclones (or regional form in Alolan Raichu's case). Electric/Psychic, Electric/Dark and Electric/Fighting all had this happen.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:08:58 No.52271900 Report

Quoted By: >>52271927 >>52272259 >>52279320

>>52269558
WhAt MaKeS iT a PoIsOn TyPe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:09:56 No.52271927 Report

Quoted By: >>52273721

>>52271900
Radiation, next question

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:13:27 No.52271988 Report

Quoted By: >>52279320

>>52269784
Huh. I guess that would explain the references to those magazines and stuff. Maybe the DLC will get into it more

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:25:58 No.52272182 Report

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GF stopped cared about types making any sense at gen 4, then cemented it and threw all logic and rules out of the window at gen 8.

Now anything can be anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:29:39 No.52272232 Report

Quoted By: >>52272315 >>52272325 >>52272393

The "magazines" are the violet equivalent to the scarlet book. Aka the scarlet book(s) from the future.
Someone pointed out violet was an afterthought to scarlet which was the original story. Koraidon has a territorial fight with the other koraidon and its doglike mannerisms with penny/nemona fits more than the electric scooter from the future does.
Area zero, an undiscovered crater with a mysterious connection to the past makes far more sense than a place someone decided to time travel to the future. Area 51 in the US is popular for space/alien themes, why would a place named Area 0 be tied to the future at all?
The scarlet book is found in the school and fits the story more because it works better to explain Area 0 in the plot, as well as document past paradox forms. How would it make sense to have magazines from the future describe area 0?
This shitty tinfoil hat theory about these forms being imagined can only make sense if the violet storyline wasnt a stupid afterthought to the original plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:31:22 No.52272259 Report

Quoted By: >>52272405 >>52272421 >>52275402

>>52271900
the future paradox mons were lazy as fuck. they couldn't think of anything better than just making everything metal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:34:39 No.52272315 Report

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>>52272232
>The scarlet book is found in the school and fits the story more because it works better to explain Area 0 in the plot, as well as document past paradox forms. How would it make sense to have magazines from the future describe area 0?
None of it makes sense, that's why the theory exists. Why are the scarlet entries so vague and strange even for Pokemon?
They even toyed with the concept of hoaxes in the previous gen with the fossils being all fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:35:23 No.52272325 Report

Quoted By: >>52272552

>>52272232
>Area 51 in the US is popular for space/alien themes, why would a place named Area 0 be tied to the future at all?
because space and aliens are most often associated with futuristic sci-fi?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:39:09 No.52272393 Report

Quoted By: >>52272467 >>52272476 >>52272870 >>52289209

>>52272232
The paradoxes being imagined is the only thing that makes sense when you look at the lore of both games as a whole. Koraidon and Miraidon literally do not exist without the Scarlet/Violet book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:39:54 No.52272405 Report

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>>52272259
Could've gone for aliens as a secondary theme at least, but I suppose some of the dex entries do imply that the robotic Future Paradoxes were built by aliens

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:41:07 No.52272421 Report

Quoted By: >>52272496 >>52274654 >>52282568 >>52285914

>>52272259
The past paradoxes aren't much better in that sense.
Instead of "what if Pokemon were robot" they're "what if pokemon were dinosaur".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:44:03 No.52272467 Report

Quoted By: >>52272750

>>52272393
The one problem I have with this is that the Professor specifically mentions they had to DNA test the box legendaries to realise they were related to Cyclizar. Otherwise, except for the Donphan, none of them are photographed - and clearly the notes said nothing about a resemblance.

So why would the wish granter whatever go out of its way to make them related if they're not "real" pokemon (even from another timeline) when nothing linked them to it specifically? Feels like they shouldn't have had a REASON to be a genetic link if that wasn't the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:44:25 No.52272476 Report

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>>52272393
the paradoxes being imagined also explains why they can't breed or evolve, especially the past versions

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:45:37 No.52272496 Report

Quoted By: >>52274857

>>52272421
like only 2 of them have dinosaur features. are you stupid or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 16:48:51 No.52272552 Report

Quoted By: >>52307345

>>52272325
anon area 0, ground 0, level 0, floor 0 all imply the start/beginning of something. it would be called any other area if it were futuristic: 51,99,100

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:02:55 No.52272750 Report

Quoted By: >>52272786

>>52272467
If anything, doesn't that imply they're fake? All paradox Pokemon closely resemble modern day ones, that happen to be found in Paldea no less, instead of being unique like all the fossil Pokemon.
The machine or wish granting Pokemon may not have the power to create completely new creatures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:05:28 No.52272786 Report

Quoted By: >>52272982

>>52272750
With this logic hisuian pokemon were a fever dream and aren't real pokemon that exist either, its just something your character imagined during the long dream of being taken from your time to the hisui region by arceus

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:07:16 No.52272815 Report

Quoted By: >>52272921

>>52269663
>>52269747
I'm aware that might be met with question, how would you describe Falinks? Serious question

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:10:44 No.52272870 Report

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>>52272393
Koraidon and Miraidon have some extra fuckery going on, I don't think they are normal paradoxes there seems to be some intentional ambiguity to their situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:14:22 No.52272921 Report

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>>52269747
>intentionally puts stupid shit here and there
>>52272815
Aside from Falinks I don't see the issue. If people think Hawlucha has the same design philosophy as Flamigo, or Sawk and Throh to Fire and Water Tauros, they're retarded. Simple as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:17:52 No.52272982 Report

Quoted By: >>52273141

>>52272786
Hisuian forms were non-native species that date back only a few hundred years at most.
Paradoxes allegedly go back/forward up to one billion years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:27:11 No.52273141 Report

Quoted By: >>52273198 >>52273501

>>52272982
yea and
>magcargo can reach 18,000 degrees farenheit
>kadabra is a boy with psychic powers who woke up as this pokemon, fuck abra and alakazam
>bannette is a possessed doll, fuck shuppet
>the moon shoots out X-rays on sludge, creating grimer
>larvitars eat entire mountains casually
tell me more about how pokedex entries are infallable truths

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:31:03 No.52273198 Report

Quoted By: >>52273350

>>52273141
there are specific lines in scarlet that reference paradox volcarona as a "volcarona from the past" and then say that it doesn't make sense because volcarona fossils were never found in that time period. paradox mons are fanfiction creatures

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:31:07 No.52273202 Report

Quoted By: >>52273425 >>52274600 >>52278800

>>52269589
It's also worth a mention that most fighting types in early gens were based off different martial arts and fighting styles

>Machamp
Bodybuilder
>Hitmonchan and Primeape
Boxer
>Hitmonlee
Tae-kwon-do
>Hitmontop
Capoeira
>Hariyama
Sumo fighter
>Blaziken
Muay Thai

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:38:17 No.52273350 Report

Quoted By: >>52273554 >>52276430

>>52273198
And terastalizing was a mechanic discovered 10 years prior to events in scarlet/violet and its still unknown how/why it works
Area 0, a place that hasnt been explored since one expedition 200 years ago that was quickly abandoned after someone got injured, is still largely unexplained/discovered.
This retard logic that paradox pokemon are fake fanfiction is the same logic the christian churches used when history started questioning the center of the universe, the existance of a nonflat earth, and the idea that organisms can survive/have survived outside of earth
keep coping

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:43:04 No.52273425 Report

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>>52273202
Machamp could also be a wrestler, I thought the championship belt was always meant to allude to that. I have no problems with muh animals as long as they're not the majority of designs we get for the next games. Gen 5 managed to give varied designs from different body styles.
>referee/coach/round girl support or cleric
>fan warrior like Kyoshi from Avatar
>other forms of wrestling like Mongolian or Turkish
Hell I wouldn't mind Tauros if we actually got a matador. That would have been Kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:47:15 No.52273501 Report

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>>52273141
>tell me more about how pokedex entries are infallable truths
If you're going to dismiss what little lore we have about Paradoxes, then why even defend so strongly that they're real past/future forms?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:50:15 No.52273554 Report

Quoted By: >>52273655

>>52273350
>Area 0, a place that hasnt been explored since one expedition 200 years ago
Not so, one of the books in the library says people kept going down there after the first expedition. Nobody found any Paradox Pokemon, only terastal Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:53:46 No.52273609 Report

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>>52269922
both of the moths lost quiver dance. iron moth has to use agility and fiery dance to set up now while slither wing is relegated to a revenge killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:56:05 No.52273655 Report

Quoted By: >>52273685 >>52279320

>>52273554
Makes sense since the Champion uses the poison flower, which can only be found down in area 0 too. So clearly some people are going down there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:57:55 No.52273685 Report

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>>52273655
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 17:59:35 No.52273707 Report

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>>52269663
6 niggas in a row

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 18:00:37 No.52273721 Report

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>>52271927
mind blown

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 18:32:38 No.52274243 Report

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>>52269663
well it's not an animal nor a plant

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 18:50:02 No.52274515 Report

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>>52269558
it's mothra + godzilla fused together, and Godzilla fights a lot and good

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 18:52:54 No.52274556 Report

Quoted By: >>52274720 >>52275044 >>52294295

>>52269589
>implying fungus are plants
breloom is a kangaroo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 18:55:19 No.52274600 Report

Quoted By: >>52279320

>>52273202
>implying bodybuilding is a martial art
machamp is a wrestler, it has extra arms for better grappling

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 18:59:16 No.52274654 Report

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>>52272421
more like "what if they had spikes and fangs"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:01:42 No.52274679 Report

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>>52269558
Because it has to fight to survive in these hard streets

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:04:26 No.52274720 Report

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>>52274556
she's a mushroom with kangaroo tendencies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:04:49 No.52274728 Report

Quoted By: >>52281177

>>52270630
Oh my god, what a beautiful chicken
You're right, it should be flying type

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:12:05 No.52274842 Report

Quoted By: >>52274999 >>52275062 >>52275101 >>52275365 >>52297028

>>52269589
I'm not sure what this image is supposed to be communicating
What makes Machamp, a humanoid wrestler with reptilian features, different from Urshifu, a humanoid martial artist with bear features?
What makes Primeape any different from Heracross? Gallade any different from Sirfetch'd?

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:13:01 No.52274857 Report

Quoted By: >>52275039 >>52275622

>>52272496
>Dino tails
Slither Wing, Brute Bonnet, Great Tusk

>Dino feathers
Flutter Mane, Roaring moon, Koraidon

>Both
Sandy Shocks

U are a retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:21:07 No.52274999 Report

Quoted By: >>52275282 >>52275365 >>52275438 >>52279320

>>52274842
>Machamp, a humanoid wrestler with reptilian features
Machamp has the least reptilian features among his line. Machop has a tail, and Machoke looks like a lizard. If anything, Machamp has a duck bill but is still ultimately not blatantly a bird.
>Primeape any different from Heracross
Primeape's anatomy is different from an actual primate, whereas Heracross is almost the same except it's missing a pair of legs
>Gallade from Sirfetch'd
Fine I'll bite. Gallade couldn't be attributed to any animal at all, while Sirfetch'd is anatomically a duck. This shouldn't be hard to understand. While many have animalistic attributes, they all vary in degree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:22:21 No.52275022 Report

Quoted By: >>52279320

>>52269558
The bug fur looks like a karate gi when standing up, that's why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:23:21 No.52275039 Report

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>>52274857
now this what we old timers call a "stretch"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:23:37 No.52275044 Report

Quoted By: >>52275461 >>52278075 >>52279320

>>52274556
>breloom is a kangaroo
Breloom is a mess of a design with clusterfuck of ideas crammed in one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:24:52 No.52275062 Report

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>>52274842
Get your eyes checked holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:27:00 No.52275101 Report

Quoted By: >>52275282

>>52274842
This is like asking what is the difference between Gardevoir and Alakazam. (You) can't be this dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:27:14 No.52275106 Report

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I hope they pull more time shenanigan pokemon. It is kinda weird though that time travel/manipulation was a main thing in 3 games in a row.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:27:42 No.52275113 Report

Quoted By: >>52298488

>>52269558
it fights

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:37:32 No.52275282 Report

Quoted By: >>52275365 >>52275380 >>52275419 >>52289129

>>52274999
>Primeape's anatomy is different from an actual primate, whereas Heracross is almost the same except it's missing a pair of legs
Primeape is a humanoid creature featuring fully functional arms and legs, and also has animal features
Heracross is a humanoid creature featuring fully functional arms and legs, and also has bug features
>Gallade couldn't be attributed to any animal at all, while Sirfetch'd is anatomically a duck
But they are both bipedal creatures that fight with weapons similar to how a human would
There is no functional difference to their fighting ability, other than the specific type of weapons used and Sirfetch'd having short limbs

>>52275101
You are having an entirely different argument than I am, my man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:41:50 No.52275347 Report

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We could have had a good bug/ground type instead of this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:42:52 No.52275365 Report

Quoted By: >>52275514

>>52274999
Checked and confirmed
>>52274842
>>52275282
So you're just going to ignore the bull and the flamingo to try to refute the idea that fighting type designs have been steadily becoming less anthropomorphic? Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:43:53 No.52275380 Report

Quoted By: >>52275514

>>52275282
>Heracross is a humanoid creature
Retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:44:47 No.52275402 Report

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>>52272259
when will people understand GF doesnt give a shit anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:46:15 No.52275419 Report

Quoted By: >>52275514

>>52275282
Anon you are intentionally being obtuse. Look at Primeape and Passimian and tell me they have the same body structure. Or Blaziken and Flamigo. One is clearly more anthropomorphic than the other. And they're also all visually distinct from designs like the hitmons

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:47:25 No.52275438 Report

Quoted By: >>52275460 >>52275501 >>52275610 >>52276397 >>52279577

>>52274999
Anal ape wishes he could be as cool as an actually good new final evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:47:28 No.52275439 Report

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>>52269589
I really really prefer the weirder ones like Great Tusk over martial arts mons where it's just a guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:48:29 No.52275460 Report

Quoted By: >>52275528 >>52276046

>>52275438
*close combats you and then has an actual walk animation*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:48:30 No.52275461 Report

Quoted By: >>52276948

>>52275044
It's a fungus kangaroo dinosaur, wich all relate to Jorney to the Centre of Earth, a story that has giant fungus and dinosaurs. At the time it was written it was believed dinosaurs waked standing and dragging the tail like kangaroos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:50:26 No.52275501 Report

Quoted By:

>>52275438
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:51:29 No.52275514 Report

Quoted By: >>52275592

>>52275380
Yes, it is bipedal and has arms, something the beetle heracross is based on does not have

>>52275365
>>52275419
This isn't an argument when pokemon in different tiers have similar structure while pokemon in the same tier have wildly different structure

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:52:04 No.52275528 Report

Quoted By: >>52275667

>>52275460
>Kingambit used Sucker Punch
>it's Super Effective!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:53:55 No.52275558 Report

Quoted By: >>52275604

>Today I learned that Machamp, Quacquaval and Sirfetch'd are all the same designs because they all have duck beaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:55:41 No.52275592 Report

Quoted By: >>52275633

>>52275514
>when pokemon in different tiers have similar structure while pokemon in the same tier have wildly different structure
Because you're comparing a beetle with a primate you absolute 2-brain celled retard. They are grouped as animals or anthropomorphic based on the degree of variation from the animals they are based on. This is your last (You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:56:27 No.52275604 Report

Quoted By: >>52275704

>>52275558
A duck beak is a duck beak, so it would make sense if they all had attacks that use beaks, despite having different intentions with their designs(aside from machamp, obviously)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:56:48 No.52275610 Report

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>>52275438
Anal ape sisters not like this!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:58:03 No.52275622 Report

Quoted By: >>52279320

>>52274857
>slither wing
>dino tail
its a fucking insect abdomen thats literally just how they look

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 19:58:35 No.52275633 Report

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>>52275592
Well thank you for at least admitting the distinction is based on subjective lines that have no impact on their actual combat function

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:00:39 No.52275667 Report

Quoted By:

>>52275528
Fighting/Ghost isnt weak to Dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:02:22 No.52275704 Report

Quoted By: >>52275775

>>52275604
>despite having different intentions with their designs
So you admit it after all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:06:48 No.52275775 Report

Quoted By: >>52275857 >>52275927

>>52275704
Yes, having different aesthetics was never in question, only the actual utility involved
To use the broadest example I can think of, a cute pokemon has an entirely different design sensibility from a cool pokemon, but those different approaches can still produce pokemon of the same types, that would fight in the same ways, and neither is invalidated by the choice of style

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:11:03 No.52275857 Report

Quoted By: >>52276127

>>52275775
>Swords of Justice are quadrupeds
>they can't learn Dynamic Punch or any Focus Punch
b-but it fights the same way!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:13:19 No.52275903 Report

Quoted By: >>52275943 >>52275992

>>52269589
>Pawmot closer to my mom's animal than to animalistic-anthropomorthic
Dishonest chart

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:14:45 No.52275927 Report

Quoted By: >>52276127

>>52275775
We have nothing against Falinks or else you'd see complaints about it. It's the fact that they are mostly simple and plain animals now, instead of having designs from other aesthetics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:15:45 No.52275943 Report

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>>52275903
I saw your feedback yesterday and moved it in between the two. (You) just repeated your comment without actually looking though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:17:32 No.52275986 Report

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>>52269558
You know it stands up and uses its limbs for punching and kicking, right? Also some Paradox Pokémon need physical strength and stamina to survive in the past. Look at Great Tusk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:17:49 No.52275992 Report

Quoted By:

>>52275903
>Marmot looks like a Marmot but somehow should be considered anthro
Dishonest opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:20:51 No.52276046 Report

Quoted By:

>>52275460
>ghost
>needs to walk
Kingambit is too lordly to touch the ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:25:12 No.52276127 Report

Quoted By: >>52276466

>>52275857
And yet there are pokemon in that exact same tier that are not quadrupeds and can in fact learn those moves, rendering the distinction arbitrary

>>52275927
>We
Speak for yourself, I hate group pokemon on principle
>It's the fact that they are mostly simple and plain animals now, instead of having designs from other aesthetics
Funny, I wish we had less shit that was stylized after other unrelated themes, that's the reason most anthropomorphic pokemon have sucked for the last decade
Back in the before times, GF could design something like Infernape without also needing to have it moonlight as a vampire or an uber driver or some shit to fit into some dumb "theme" like they're making a street fighter roster

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:39:28 No.52276397 Report

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>>52275438
>he
>50% female

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:41:42 No.52276430 Report

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>>52273350
>And terastalizing was a mechanic discovered 10 years prior to events in scarlet/violet and its still unknown how/why it works
It was discovered much longer ago, the issue was that until the current professor researched it, the power only worked inside Area 0 due to the crystals that make everything just magically work like you want it to. Terastalizing works in the same way the supposed time machine and the AI professor are able to work, which is somehow related to the hidden legendary pokemon. So while the machine is probably capable of time travel since it seems like it just makes things work how the user want it to work, the paradox pokemon are probably not actually pokemon from the past/future but rather the pokemon that the professor wanted to see from the respective book since what they wanted wasnt actually time travel but to find the pokemon from what they thought would exist at those times.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:43:37 No.52276466 Report

Quoted By: >>52276752 >>52279320

>>52276127
I can see your point when it comes to other types or groups like starters. But it makes sense for Fighting types to be patterned after sports or martial arts or any physical intensive labor. This type was built for that. Per chance, your issue on this approach being applied to others may be is what makes you anal about people preferring for martial artist based designs as opposed to forcing an animal to punch no matter how awkward its anatomy looks like

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 20:57:51 No.52276752 Report

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>>52276466
I don't even dislike fighting types referencing martial arts, I enjoy designs like machamp and urshifu, I just dislike when that thematic stylization comes off in an obnoxious or unnatural manner as with recent starters or the gen 5 judo fuckers, and I like the other styles too as long as they make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 21:07:22 No.52276948 Report

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>>52275461
so a clusterfuck of ideas in one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 21:44:33 No.52277606 Report

Quoted By: >>52277737

>>52269589
I don't mind animal designs but I do miss the weird martial artist designs. I thought we'd get them since Paldea is a huge dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 21:52:08 No.52277737 Report

Quoted By: >>52278204

>>52277606
The number of actual brand new designs in Gen 9 is pretty small

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:08:27 No.52278031 Report

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>>52269863
D ok mo ar rc th tr ti Po m a e o t ? ve xa me ht ge we emb ter br i

Well, no secrets there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:10:25 No.52278075 Report

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>>52275044
yeah it's pretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:12:20 No.52278113 Report

Quoted By: >>52297300 >>52297375 >>52297469

>>52269558
Is it not obvious by now pokemon design's don't always need to communicate their typing?

Wtf do you think voltorb screamed electric type back in gen 1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:17:35 No.52278204 Report

Quoted By: >>52278330

>>52277737
I thought it's the first 100+ dex since Gen 5 excluding gimmicks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:24:53 No.52278330 Report

Quoted By: >>52278538

>>52278204
It's 89 if you exclude paradoxes and 85 if you exclude the convergent species.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:27:37 No.52278384 Report

Quoted By: >>52278405

Big 'need who has been picked on too long who is just about to snap' energy..

It's in the eyes. Very skilled of GameFreak to capture this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:28:40 No.52278405 Report

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>>52278384
*nerd

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:36:22 No.52278538 Report

Quoted By: >>52299076

>>52278330
thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:42:55 No.52278658 Report

Quoted By: >>52279052

>>52269589
In defense of the musketeers they at least vaguely relate to the idea of sword fighting.
SS is where they really started to slip and SV is where they stopped giving a fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:51:10 No.52278800 Report

Quoted By: >>52278851 >>52279320

>>52273202
That's not exclusive to Gens 1-3. Toxacroak is based on pressure-point fighting styles found in wuxia, Mienshao is Shaolin Kung Fu, Hawlucha is obviously a luchador and Conkeldurr has elements of a circus strongman in addition to the construction motif.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:52:27 No.52278820 Report

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>>52271627
Yeah I'm sure it's based off a c-lister batman villain.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 22:54:04 No.52278851 Report

Quoted By: >>52279012

>>52278800
Nice gets.
>not exclusive to Gens 1-3
They are getting rarer though, and most reasoning for new fighting types are a bit of a stretch.
>Conkeldurr has elements of a circus strongman in addition to the construction motif
Always saw it as a tool or weapon based fighting

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:03:24 No.52279012 Report

Quoted By: >>52279111

>>52278851
Conkeldurr is based on the pillars of Hercules

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:04:24 No.52279029 Report

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>>52269558
they were thinking about being BASED, unlike you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:05:48 No.52279052 Report

Quoted By: >>52279088 >>52279850 >>52286931

>>52278658
>SS is where they really started to slip
>jujitsu octopus
>knight duck
>legionaries
>knight wolf
>wushu bear
The only one without a clear theme or connection to the type is the ostrich, but it's not even the first purely feral Fighting type, that was Bewear in gen 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:08:04 No.52279088 Report

Quoted By: >>52279278 >>52279320

>>52279052
Is Grapploct strictly Jiu jitsu? There are a lot of martial arts that employ grappling.
>ostrich
Probably because an ostrich kicks hard, but they had to repeat that with the flamingo this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:09:24 No.52279111 Report

Quoted By: >>52279320

>>52279012
>Conkeldurr is based
Correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:11:28 No.52279144 Report

Quoted By: >>52279320

>>52269583
best post ITT lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:19:50 No.52279278 Report

Quoted By: >>52279346

>>52279088
>Is Grapploct strictly Jiu jitsu?
Maybe not, but it's still clearly a sort of martial artist so you can't complain about him (except for saying that he is ugly or should have been part Water).

Zapdos I think was worked backwards from wanting the Galarian birds to be more ferocious and not associated with a "natural" element, with this in mind the only other type that could have fit was Dragon and while I can kinda see it working it would have caused even more confusion and seethe.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:22:04 No.52279320 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269822
>>52269922
>>52270533
>>52271900
>>52271988
>>52273655
>>52274600
>>52274999
>>52275022
>>52275044
>>52275622
>>52276466
>>52278800
>>52279088
>>52279111
>>52279144
>all these digits

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:23:17 No.52279346 Report

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>>52279278
>still clearly a sort of martial artist so you can't complain about him
Who says I'm complaining? I was just asking because I didn't know about Grapploct's entire inspiration. Plus I kinda like how goofy it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:34:58 No.52279577 Report

Quoted By:

>>52275438
okay gramps

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Nov 2022 23:46:40 No.52279850 Report

Quoted By:

>>52279052
>knight wolf
That and even without the weapons or arthurian connection, regular wolves and dogs are still often metaphorically linked to warriors since they're potentially wild beasts that people are still prone to anthropomorphize and ascribe a certain nobility to

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 00:55:47 No.52281177 Report

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>>52274728
>giving him back his x4 rock weakness
not cool dude

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 01:15:09 No.52281492 Report

Quoted By: >>52282194 >>52282830 >>52283029 >>52294472

>>52269558
If you don't nickname your paradox 'mons after cryptid sightings or alien/UFO sightings depending on what game you got, then what are you doing with yourself?
Like Hopkinsville for Iron Bundle, Mokele for Great Tusk, Sasquatch for Sandy Shocks, Voronezh for Iron Treads etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 01:56:35 No.52282194 Report

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>>52281492
I don't like the dox mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 02:17:28 No.52282568 Report

Quoted By: >>52298470

>>52272421
The lore is ancient paradox pokemon were from a time of overwhelming primordial energy, resulting in highly aggressive pokemon, thus the need for highly adapted pokemon for fighting, big tusks, sharp bodies, thick skins, etc...
I don't understand future mons, as most are said to have been built, i get there are man made/object mons, but come on. Did the future have an robot uprising or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 02:31:01 No.52282830 Report

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>>52281492
I try to base them off their normal mon in some case, or use the themes from the mons.
Phanpy and donphan share phan
So gorephan and treadphan are my nicknames.
Magne mite/ton/zone, so i went with magneferric or magneferrous in regards to the attraction of metals.
My favorite was the larvesta and volcarona. Vesta is a roman goddess of hearth and home, vulcan is the roman god of fire. So i went with that.
So i came up with Marshawl for ancient. Mars is the roman god of war, it looks like it is in a comfy shawl, and sounds like martial for the fighting type.
The other is a bit troublesome. As mephitis fits it perfectly being a goddess of poisons gases, intriguingly counting volcanic gases, fitting the fire and poison well. So the best i could get was mephititan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 02:41:48 No.52283029 Report

Quoted By: >>52283074

>>52281492
I am angry that they even need to be nicknamed
Like just because they're fake ass cryptids pulled from the ether that don't belong in this world doesn't mean that their literal documented species name would ever be some dry ass descriptive codename instead of some variation on the name of the actual pre-existing species that they are all observably related to

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 02:44:02 No.52283074 Report

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>>52283029
It's definitely weird as fuck, even the Ultra Beasts got proper names

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 03:14:35 No.52283520 Report

Quoted By: >>52304945

>>52269585
Where does this meme come from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 03:23:12 No.52283654 Report

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>>52269784
One of the books also talks about how Slither Wing being a prehistoric Volcorona contradicts the fact that no Volcarona fossils from that era have ever been found.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 03:34:34 No.52283799 Report

Quoted By:

types literally dont mean anything anymore
they introduced a mechanic where you any pokemon can be any type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 03:39:34 No.52283857 Report

Quoted By:

The stupid unga caveman Magneton is so stupid that its my favorite sesign of all the Paradox mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 03:41:19 No.52283877 Report

Quoted By: >>52294597

>>52270415
Then why do brigands and delinquents use them in Gen I?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 04:00:59 No.52284163 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269589
Can gen 10 start already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 05:57:33 No.52285914 Report

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>>52272421
they at least bothered to do that to pokemon that aren't dinosaurs at all though, like amoonguss and magneton

things like iron jugulis are just robots and that's it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 07:23:55 No.52286931 Report

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>>52279052
Fighting is a personality type like Psychic, Dark, Ghost and Fairy, so that's how they get Galarian Zapdos' typing from. At least it's not a pool noodle flamingo with no trace of the type whatsoever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 07:49:41 No.52287144 Report

Quoted By: >>52288989

>>52269558
Both Volcarona Paradoxes are top tier designwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 10:45:37 No.52288940 Report

Quoted By:

This thread hurts my head. The more I think about the Paradox forms, the more they start feeling like actualy paradoxes. Like it doesn't make sense for them to exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 10:51:00 No.52288989 Report

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>>52287144
Based take. Volcaronafags ate good this gen

Primal Volcarona could be an alternate Larvesta evo that remained physical-oriented. Mecha Volcarona translated wonderfully into mecha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 11:06:51 No.52289129 Report

Quoted By: >>52292244

>>52270747
Isn't Kirlia doing the ballet?
>>52275282
I don't think you know what humanoid means lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 11:15:59 No.52289209 Report

Quoted By:

>>52272393
>Koraidon and Miraidon literally do not exist without the Scarlet/Violet book.
Apparently they are, based on the Pokedex. You just can't read the entries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 11:52:29 No.52289511 Report

Quoted By: >>52291110

>>52269946
This, it looks like a Stegosaurus. Dragon is the perfect type for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 14:28:00 No.52291110 Report

Quoted By: >>52291166 >>52301429

>>52289511
weird we don't have a stegosaur pokemon yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 14:31:12 No.52291166 Report

Quoted By:

>>52291110
We have half of one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 14:36:02 No.52291230 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269863
>Ba'al iv; Goldie
here's to hoping this is part of a set of wholly original pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 14:46:21 No.52291345 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269558
I fucking love this thing. I don't understand why mechanical moth is the favorite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 15:48:02 No.52292244 Report

Quoted By: >>52292752

>>52289129
>I don't think you know what humanoid means lol
A humanoid is something that resembles a human in shape and/or appearance(or sometimes mental process, but that's less relevant)
This differs from 'anthropomorphic' only in that antrho is even more vague and can refer to any feature you can relate to a human whatsoever, even metaphorical ones
A creature with the same limbs and relative proportions as a person such as your average fursuit guy definitely counts as humanoid, while a bowling ball with googly eyes slapped on or even just a fucking car that you refer to as a 'she' has been anthropomorphized

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:18:32 No.52292752 Report

Quoted By: >>52292919

>>52292244
>A humanoid is something that resembles a human in shape and/or appearance
So why do you consider Heracross humanoid kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:30:25 No.52292919 Report

Quoted By: >>52293072

>>52292752
Because it is a bipedal creature with human-like arms and legs(which it can use for martial arts), as opposed to a non-humanoid beetle which is not bipedal and only possesses insect legs(which it cannot use for martial arts)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:39:08 No.52293072 Report

Quoted By: >>52293255

>>52292919
>Heracross
>human-like arms and legs
What kind of arms and legs do you have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:42:27 No.52293140 Report

Quoted By: >>52293183

>>52269863
d ok o er rc th tr ti po n a e o t a ve x me ht ge we emb ter br i

Is this an anagram using the censored characters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:44:10 No.52293183 Report

Quoted By:

>>52293140
forgot the "he" for shell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:48:16 No.52293255 Report

Quoted By: >>52293368 >>52293415

>>52293072
The kind with each limb separated into two segments capped with hands and feet, where the legs bend in the opposite direction of the arms to facilitate bipedal movement
You may notice that insects do not have these

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:54:38 No.52293368 Report

Quoted By: >>52293394

>>52293255
Careful you might strain your back by overreaching

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:56:12 No.52293394 Report

Quoted By: >>52293522

>>52293368
>Describing the most basic anatomy is a reach
Were you dropped on your head as a kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 16:57:06 No.52293415 Report

Quoted By: >>52293634

>>52293255
And that still doesn't make Heracross humanoid. It's body shape should be a dead give away but sure, focus on specific analogous aspects of the design instead of the overall appearance

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:02:53 No.52293522 Report

Quoted By: >>52293634

>>52293394
No but I'm thinking you might be. Heracross has SOME anthro aspects for its arms but to claim it is a humanoid design is a reach. That would be like saying Heracross has the same design as an elf or an orc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:08:44 No.52293634 Report

Quoted By: >>52293720 >>52294109

>>52293415
>>52293522
"humanoid" is not a word that means "has exact human physiology with minor aesthetic differences"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:13:10 No.52293720 Report

Quoted By: >>52293784 >>52294109

>>52293634
If that works for you, cool. But I'm confident randos on the street wouldn't have humanoid as their first word to describe Heracross. Insectoid literally exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:16:53 No.52293784 Report

Quoted By: >>52294109

>>52293720
And both of those words apply

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:35:58 No.52294109 Report

Quoted By: >>52294196

This thread is still up?
>>52269589
I think the whole graphic thing has flaws even though I can see the point. Some of the arguments are just downright laughable >>52293634
>>52293720
>>52293784
Heracross isn't in the human-like egg group but Volbeat and Illumise are so who the fuck knows

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:40:24 No.52294196 Report

Quoted By: >>52294415

>>52294109
>Some of the arguments are just downright laughable
Prove me wrong, then
It doesn't even take a single minute to find a word's definition

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:45:20 No.52294295 Report

Quoted By: >>52294374

>>52274556
Its literally a dinosaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:49:41 No.52294361 Report

Quoted By:

>>52270415
Bugs are Heroes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:50:36 No.52294374 Report

Quoted By:

>>52294295
dinosaurs can't punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:53:29 No.52294415 Report

Quoted By: >>52294443

>>52294196
>It doesn't even take a single minute to find a word's definition
Well what's taking you so long then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:55:20 No.52294443 Report

Quoted By: >>52294522

>>52294415
I have not only looked it up, but explained it in detail here
You can't provide one at all because you're operating entirely on headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:56:45 No.52294472 Report

Quoted By:

>>52281492
I named my Metal Hands Hariyamaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 17:59:46 No.52294522 Report

Quoted By: >>52294590

>>52294443
>headcanon
Is that also humanoid because it has a head like a human?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 18:04:15 No.52294590 Report

Quoted By: >>52294644

>>52294522
No, that would be anthropomorphic because we're not talking about a literal object with a human head
Seriously, I promise you that googling these words will actually give you their definitions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 18:04:44 No.52294597 Report

Quoted By:

>>52283877
>Brigands and delinquents secretly wish for redemption
Kino

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 18:08:07 No.52294644 Report

Quoted By: >>52294669

>>52294590
>will actually give you their definitions
which you selectively apply, lmao. Try google search images, they won't give you anything close to Heracross

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 18:09:37 No.52294669 Report

Quoted By:

>>52294644
Which part of which definition am I selectively applying? The lowest common denominator example images are not definitions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 18:10:17 No.52294677 Report

Quoted By: >>52295564

>>52269558
They just fucking felt like it
That's literally the logic now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 18:48:21 No.52295324 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269625
because fighting = brute force = prehistoric creature seems to be this gen line of thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:00:27 No.52295564 Report

Quoted By: >>52296151 >>52296165 >>52296228 >>52296385 >>52296404

>>52294677
>Now
>Implying it ever wasn't the logic
I don't know why this one autist is obsessed with fighting types having hardcore literal real life inspirations. Every pokemon type had general rules that were relaxed as more generations came out because it was less restrictive design as they exhausted their options.

Like I'm supposed to respect some dumb mutt who thinks Tyrogue and the gen 5 freaks are good but the Flamingo is bad because one of the original birds that inspired martial arts can't be fighting type? It's fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:35:25 No.52296151 Report

Quoted By:

>>52295564
>one of the original birds that inspired martial arts can't be fighting type?
I wasn't aware that flamingos were a martial arts inspiration

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:36:20 No.52296165 Report

Quoted By:

>>52295564
Nah

you're stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:39:40 No.52296228 Report

Quoted By: >>52296290

>>52295564
>I don't know why this one autist is obsessed with fighting types
Or, get this. Maybe you're the one autist who keeps insisting there has not been any noticeable difference in the way they designed Fighting types AS A WHOLE because you hone in on specific (and mismatched) comparisons, or only specific anatomical details to make your arguments, instead of trying to understand the general context that is being discussed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:42:35 No.52296290 Report

Quoted By: >>52296385

>>52296228
>Everyone on /vp/ is one person
Obsessed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:42:47 No.52296294 Report

Quoted By:

It stood up and chose violence,

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:47:34 No.52296385 Report

Quoted By: >>52296405

>>52296290
>Obsessed
>>52295564
>this one autist
Obsessed AND delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:48:33 No.52296404 Report

Quoted By:

>>52295564
>93 posters
>one autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:48:33 No.52296405 Report

Quoted By: >>52296425

>>52296385
Yes, you both are

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:49:52 No.52296425 Report

Quoted By: >>52296458

>>52296405
If it lets you sleep at night, sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 19:51:58 No.52296458 Report

Quoted By:

>>52296425
I sleep very soundly not thinking lone autists are responsible for everything wrong in the world, yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 20:26:12 No.52297028 Report

Quoted By: >>52297069

>>52274842
>machamp
>reptilian features
Excuse me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 20:29:11 No.52297069 Report

Quoted By: >>52297358

>>52297028
>He doesn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 20:43:48 No.52297300 Report

Quoted By:

>>52278113
>Wtf do you think voltorb screamed electric type back in gen 1?
>voltorb
>volt orb
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 20:46:55 No.52297358 Report

Quoted By: >>52297419

>>52297069
no i dont, please enlighten me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 20:48:02 No.52297375 Report

Quoted By:

>>52278113
Yes they do, in my opinion. Thats just good game design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 20:50:22 No.52297419 Report

Quoted By: >>52297616

>>52297358
The Machoke line is a series of wrestler dudes with reptilian aspects to their design, some of which(long muzzle and a tail) are lost later in the line

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 20:53:00 No.52297469 Report

Quoted By:

>>52278113
>Wtf do you think voltorb screamed electric type back in gen 1?
It's a Pokémon that looks almost identical to the most prominent piece of technology in the entire setting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:01:22 No.52297616 Report

Quoted By: >>52297941

>>52297419
long muzzles and tails are not inherently reptillian features...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:22:20 No.52297941 Report

Quoted By: >>52298204 >>52299108

>>52297616
They are when combined with things like lizard crests and blue-green skin meant to evoke scales in a low detail artstyle
Not that even those are necessary, as that's already more than a design like charmander has

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:36:42 No.52298204 Report

Quoted By: >>52298251

>>52297941
>blue-green skin meant to evoke scales
You don't know about Kinnikuman and Ashuraman do you? Or the Hindu deities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:39:30 No.52298251 Report

Quoted By: >>52298276 >>52310774

>>52298204
Are you genuinely autistic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:41:28 No.52298276 Report

Quoted By: >>52298360

>>52298251
Are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:46:41 No.52298360 Report

Quoted By: >>52298591

>>52298276
Where's the crests, muzzle, and tail?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:46:49 No.52298363 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269863
>Just now realize that fucker is in space and is 100s times larger than a planet
Jesus fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:53:45 No.52298470 Report

Quoted By: >>52298509

>>52282568
Did the future have an robot uprising or something?
I like to think a dinosaur-level extinction event happened (another meteor, climate change, a supernova, whatever), causing a vast majority of the Pokemon species to go extinct, so the future humans recreated them best they could using their next-gen tech
...That or the lame "lmao it's just in-universe fanfic" copout

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:54:34 No.52298488 Report

Quoted By:

>>52275113
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 21:55:29 No.52298509 Report

Quoted By:

>>52298470
shit
>Did the future have an robot uprising or something?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:00:17 No.52298591 Report

Quoted By: >>52298635

>>52298360
So you don't know about Kinnikuman. Gotcha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:02:21 No.52298635 Report

Quoted By:

>>52298591
Wow, look at that pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:03:49 No.52298668 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269558
they're bringing back megas as dlc and don't want it to be fire/dragon and overshadow Mega Charziard X, or Bug Dragon and overshadow Mega Flygon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:25:55 No.52299076 Report

Quoted By:

>>52278538
kek saved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:27:45 No.52299108 Report

Quoted By: >>52299296

>>52297941
>lizard crests and blue-green skin
neither of these things are things the machamp line has

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:37:27 No.52299296 Report

Quoted By: >>52299398

>>52299108
False

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:42:30 No.52299398 Report

Quoted By: >>52299527

>>52299296
point them out to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:50:05 No.52299527 Report

Quoted By: >>52299675

>>52299398
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Machamp_(Pokémon)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 22:58:21 No.52299675 Report

Quoted By: >>52299816

>>52299527
>pokedex color: gray
>no tail
>no scales
>clearly has the muscular structure of a humanoid
>not a single dex entry, name translation or piece of trivia mention lizards or reptiles
hmmm yep. its a reptile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 23:06:05 No.52299816 Report

Quoted By: >>52301350

>>52299675
lmao, you tried

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 23:06:58 No.52299828 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269558
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 23:09:44 No.52299882 Report

Quoted By:

At this point it has to be trolling. No one sane really thinks
>Machamp is a reptile
>Heracross is better or equally described as an insectoid than a humanoid
The fact that I've sat out the last few hours and people still question the comparisons verifies the one tard just can't handle losing despite having invalid arguments

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 23:12:08 No.52299920 Report

Quoted By: >>52299979 >>52300022

At this point it has to be trolling. No one sane really thinks
>Machamp is a reptile
>Heracross is better or equally described as a humanoid than insectoid
The fact that I've sat out the last few hours and people still question the comparisons verifies the one tard just can't handle losing despite having invalid arguments

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 23:15:31 No.52299979 Report

Quoted By:

>>52299920
I'm so sorry that I have a position that you can't reconcile with your entirely subjective uses of language in opposition to their definitions, to the point where you have to strawman me to feign superiority

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 23:17:38 No.52300022 Report

Quoted By:

>>52299920
>Heracross is better or equally described as a humanoid than insectoid
It is literally both. Humanoid describes the stance, insectoid describes the appearance.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2022 23:33:28 No.52300307 Report

Quoted By: >>52307316

>This ancient commonly known information scares and confuses non-functioning autists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 00:35:06 No.52301350 Report

Quoted By:

>>52299816
Ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 00:40:26 No.52301429 Report

Quoted By: >>52301872

>>52291110
It took 6 generations to get a tyrannosaurus, dinosaurs are weirdly under-represented in Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 01:04:14 No.52301872 Report

Quoted By:

>>52301429
Rock/Grass stegosaur makes so much sense for the back plates

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 01:11:26 No.52301987 Report

Quoted By: >>52302737

>>52269558
because it fights you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 01:56:25 No.52302737 Report

Quoted By: >>52302892

>>52301987
What about all the other pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:05:14 No.52302892 Report

Quoted By:

>>52302737
they dont fight, they battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:18:58 No.52303103 Report

Quoted By: >>52303220

>>52269589
Tyrogue could have evolved into a few more hitmons ngl

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:26:25 No.52303220 Report

Quoted By: >>52303690

>>52303103
I wish there was one that actually looked like Tyrogue, love that little fucker but he's a goddamn baby pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 02:53:21 No.52303690 Report

Quoted By:

>>52303220
That's true, I guess Hitmonchan looks the closest

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:18:33 No.52304945 Report

Quoted By:

>>52283520
Brasil

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:19:35 No.52304966 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269558
So what is the earliest I can catch the moth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:30:35 No.52305152 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269558
Should have given him biceps and boxing gloves

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 04:52:11 No.52305540 Report

Quoted By: >>52306175

Does anyone have the slitherwing picture with a nightcap, thanks in advance

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 05:30:57 No.52306175 Report

Quoted By: >>52306816 >>52309019

>>52305540

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 06:15:17 No.52306816 Report

Quoted By:

>>52306175
Thank you very much anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 06:55:35 No.52307277 Report

Quoted By:

>>52271617
The animation for Aqua Step (it's signature move) literally looks like one of those capoeira kicks and nothing like anything in a samba dance. There can be multiple inspirations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 06:59:19 No.52307316 Report

Quoted By: >>52309120

>>52300307
That would've actually been pretty based if it were true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 07:01:01 No.52307337 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269558
moth beats your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 07:01:43 No.52307345 Report

Quoted By:

>>52272552
0 can also mean null, as in "there's nothing/no one here", hence people not being allowed to go in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 09:35:00 No.52309019 Report

Quoted By:

>>52306175
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 09:40:59 No.52309064 Report

Quoted By:

>>52269589
>65 new final-evolution-mons in gen 9
>10 of them are fighting type
wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 09:47:06 No.52309120 Report

Quoted By: >>52309133

>>52307316
>if it were true
what did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 09:48:55 No.52309133 Report

Quoted By: >>52309173

>>52309120
they evolve in the wild, and retain the same characteristics even when not traded with each other so it's clearly fanfiction

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 09:52:28 No.52309173 Report

Quoted By:

>>52309133
I don't know about Machamp/Golem, but the bugs canonically just need an electric current to evolve
"When it (Shelmet) and Karrablast are together, and both receive electrical stimulation, they both evolve."
"It (Shelmet) evolves when bathed in an electric-like energy along with Karrablast. The reason is still unknown."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2022 13:02:11 No.52310774 Report

Quoted By:

>>52298251
nobody asked you, nigger.

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