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Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:42:41 No.54638612 View View Reply Original Report

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Why does this filter so many bad players who don't understand how the game works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:45:12 No.54638622 Report

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>>54638612
Why is Poison and Ghost not Special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:45:15 No.54638623 Report

Quoted By: >>54638634 >>54638706 >>54639219

>>54638612
It's a completely nonsensical and unintuitive system

>conjuring up a ball of dark energy is somehow physical???
>biting with your teeth is somehow special???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:47:38 No.54638634 Report

Quoted By: >>54638641 >>54638647 >>54638649 >>54638655

>>54638623
>magic/elemental attacks are special
>attacks based on real material properties are physical
Seems intuitive to me. Maybe your IQ is just too low.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:48:54 No.54638639 Report

Quoted By: >>54638646 >>54639039

>>54638612
>Fire PUNCH
>CRUNCH
>Blaze KICK
>Leaf BLADE
>Volt TACKLE
>Special

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:49:09 No.54638641 Report

Quoted By: >>54638646

>>54638634
Real material properties like Ghosts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:49:48 No.54638646 Report

Quoted By: >>54638664 >>54638686

>>54638641
>Real material properties like licking?
Yes.

>>54638639
>elemental moves are special
Yes. Where's the issue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:49:55 No.54638647 Report

Quoted By: >>54638653

>>54638634
>Dragon is somehow elemental but bugs aren't
Um... Hoennfag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:50:24 No.54638649 Report

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>>54638634
NTA but you cant say this without genuinely lying when both ghost and poison are physical and dark is special in this case

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:50:54 No.54638653 Report

Quoted By: >>54638654 >>54638658

>>54638647
>mythical creature that doesn't actually exist is special
>normal animal that are found everywhere in real life isn't special
Seems intuitive to me. Maybe your IQ is just too low.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:51:54 No.54638654 Report

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>>54638653
>ah yes I love those ghosts are are everywhere, and im so glad evil is just a fairytale

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:52:18 No.54638655 Report

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>>54638634
Biting is not magical/elemental
Shadow energy is not a material property

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:52:43 No.54638658 Report

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>>54638653
>spiritual entities that don't actually is physical
Woah, I did it too, oversightfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:53:20 No.54638664 Report

Quoted By: >>54638666

>>54638646
It's not the element that's doing the damage, that's just a supplement. When a Pokemon uses a Fire Punch, it's not the fire that's doing the damage, it's the punch. The fire is just a side effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:54:00 No.54638666 Report

Quoted By: >>54638671

>>54638664
>it's not the fire that's doing the damage
Yes it is. Otherwise grass Pokemon wouldn't be weak to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:55:12 No.54638671 Report

Quoted By: >>54638684

>>54638666
If the fire was the source of damage, then there's no reason to ever use Fire Punch instead of something like Flamethrower

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:57:45 No.54638684 Report

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>>54638671
How do I teach Flamethrower to my Hitmonchan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:57:58 No.54638686 Report

Quoted By: >>54638695

>>54638646
>using Lick as an example of anything
If we're doing that, then Gust (literally かぜおこし) should be special because it's wind, not physical because it's Flying type, or even worse Normal in Gen 1.
Similarly, Twister, another move that is wind based in naming, is also physical because it's the only Dragon type move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:59:42 No.54638695 Report

Quoted By: >>54638699 >>54638753

>>54638686
Wind is a physical force. Dragon is a mythical special energy. It's not that hard to understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:00:30 No.54638699 Report

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>>54638695
>Dragon is a mythical special energy
and ghosts are mythical SPRITIAL entities, yet that typing is physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:01:33 No.54638704 Report

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don't tell phys/spec split zoomers that sacred fire is physical and wring out is special

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:01:45 No.54638706 Report

Quoted By: >>54638730 >>54638746 >>54638808 >>54638937 >>54639079

>>54638623
Both systems make sense and are intuitive once you learn how they work, which takes like 10 minutes of research when you first start playing the game. Learning type matchups takes longer and is more complicated than this.
If you have trouble with physical/special moves in either pre or post split, consider seeing a doctor, you might even be able to get welfare checks for your condition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:04:40 No.54638730 Report

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>>54638706
Its ok to be wrong anon, old special/split was pants on head retarded at times, and while yes it doesnt take too long to readjust to it when playing the old games now, it doesn't make it any less retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:04:49 No.54638731 Report

Quoted By: >>54638908

don't tell pre-split hoennfags that dragon claw is special and doom desire is physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:06:50 No.54638746 Report

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>>54638706
Please explain how biting is "special", and yet a magic ball of shadow energy is "physical"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:08:02 No.54638753 Report

Quoted By: >>54638757 >>54638908

>>54638695
>Wind is a physical force.

Water is more physical than air, yet Water was a special type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:08:41 No.54638757 Report

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>>54638753
Dont tell him ice is also a special type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:10:14 No.54638769 Report

Quoted By: >>54638797

Why are Alakazamfags so greedy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:13:10 No.54638797 Report

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>>54638769
KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOfags in general are used to getting everything handed to them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:14:59 No.54638806 Report

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this kills the anti-splitfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:15:06 No.54638808 Report

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>>54638706
Please explain in your own words how something being easy to memorize makes it not nonsensical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:19:48 No.54638845 Report

Quoted By: >>54639045

>>54638612
categories being assigned to types favors stall.
>Before Gen 4 Blissey did not have a care in the world for any of those special types
>After Gen 4 Blissey has to respect Flare Blitz, Wood Hammer, Wild Charge, Outrage, and Crunch
>Additionally Blissey now has to worry about special attackers now using Focus Blast against it
>Flipside for Skarmory
>Pokemon with shitty STABs opposite of their main attacking stat are now much stronger due to effectively using their new found STABs off their higher attacks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:21:50 No.54638861 Report

Quoted By: >>54638873 >>54638882

>Physical Special split happened because they couldn't just simply do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:23:02 No.54638873 Report

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>>54638861
this is somehow worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:24:48 No.54638882 Report

Quoted By: >>54638898

>>54638861
>>54638612
>no Fairy type
All is right in the world

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:26:35 No.54638898 Report

Quoted By: >>54639412

>>54638882
I'm gonna be real with y'all. I still don't know how Fairy interacts with the other types. I've seen the charts, but they just don't stick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:28:45 No.54638908 Report

Quoted By: >>54638967

>>54638753
>Water is more physical than air,
Water is an element. Wind is just a physical force.

>>54638731
>move based on energy mythical creature is special
>move based on physical comet is physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:31:45 No.54638924 Report

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>>54638612
no one cared about this shit back then, you'd just use the strongest attack and go with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:34:06 No.54638937 Report

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>>54638706
>intuitive once you learn how it works
Oxymoron

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:40:43 No.54638967 Report

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>>54638908
the only thing special is you if you think claws aren't physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:41:35 No.54638970 Report

Quoted By: >>54639005

>>54638612
>presplit schizo
how many decades of cope?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:49:47 No.54639005 Report

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>>54638970
we're going on two

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:54:55 No.54639039 Report

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>>54638639
The fire part is what hurts more. It's like if you threw a molotov at me, the whole "AAAIIIEE IM ON FIRE" is way more pressing to me then the less painful impact of a think glass bottle thrown at my back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:56:44 No.54639045 Report

Quoted By: >>54639096

>>54638845
>>Pokemon with shitty STABs opposite of their main attacking stat are now much stronger due to effectively using their new found STABs off their higher attacks
Everyone just spams Close Combat now lol. Honestly bring real here GF fucked both systems up due to their general incompetence in design and balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:57:31 No.54639050 Report

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I think Fairy would be physical because I associate it with public displays of affection and nonconsensual love which gets pretty physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:58:43 No.54639058 Report

Quoted By: >>54639104

>Max Phantasm lowers Def
>Max Darkness lowers Sp. Def

It's good to know GF still knows Ghost is physical and Dark is special and hasn't bent the knee to zoomers.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:59:20 No.54639063 Report

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:01:53 No.54639079 Report

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>>54638706
>ghost:physical
>intuitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:04:45 No.54639096 Report

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>>54639045
>Everyone just spams Close Combat now lol
Ok? If there was no split, Close Combat would still be physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:06:08 No.54639104 Report

Quoted By: >>54639166

>>54639058
>Max Quake raises SpD
>Max Ooze raises SpA
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:21:18 No.54639166 Report

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>>54639104
Majority of 'special' types are tied to weather/terrains

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:34:30 No.54639219 Report

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>>54638623
It makes perfect sense. Physical is the type, not the move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 01:13:46 No.54639412 Report

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>>54638898
I can always remember how it interacts with dragon and steel but nothing else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 01:22:48 No.54639450 Report

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>>54638612
It would have helped if the games actually TOLD YOU what each type was.

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